Peters aims, fires and misses again

September 25th, 2013 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

In Parliament yesterday:

Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) to the Minister for Whānau Ora: Does she have confidence in the Whānau Ora scheme?

Hon TARIANA TURIA (Minister for Whānau Ora) Tēnā koe, Mr Speaker. Yes.

Rt Hon Winston Peters : Has she ever offered resources and staff, such as report writers, to prepare Whānau Ora commissioning agency bid documentation; if so, why?

Hon TARIANA TURIA : No.

Rt Hon Winston Peters : Did she give $500,000 plus expert help to the National Hauora Coalition to prepare its bid for Whānau Ora money; if so, why?

Hon TARIANA TURIA : No.

Rt Hon Winston Peters : You will not be laughing shortly, gentlemen. Did she give $3 million to the Iwi Leaders Forum to prepare its Whānau Ora commissioning agency bid; if so, why?

Hon TARIANA TURIA : No.

Rt Hon Winston Peters : So is she saying that a document that came to her at Parliament on 8 August at 3.26 p.m., setting out these matters and detailing the matters I am talking about, was just made up?

Hon TARIANA TURIA : I have no idea what the member is talking about.

The Herald has details:

Emails produced by Mr Peters showed Mr Tau had some discussion with Whanau Ora Minister Tariana Turia about funding the forum’s application but yesterday she showed media her response, making it clear such funding was unavailable.

So Peters got hold of a request for funding, just assumed that meant it had been successful, didn’t try to verify anything, and made wild allegations in the House that blew up in his face.

John Armstrong highlights it:

When Peters finally got the call, he asked Turia, as Minister responsible for Whanau Ora, whether she had ever offered resources and staff, such as report writers, to prepare Whanau Ora commissioning agency bid documentation. “No,” Turia replied.

Had she given $500,000-plus expert help to the National Hauora Coalition to prepare its bid for Whanau Ora money? Again, the reply was an emphatic “no”.

It was beginning to look like this was not going to be a winebox moment for Peters. Government MPs were enjoying the extremely rare sight of him firing what seemed to be blanks.

“You will not be laughing shortly, gentlemen,” he warned. He tried again. Did Turia give $3 million to the Iwi Leaders Forum to prepare its Whanau Ora commissioning agency bid? Again, “no”.

Peters’ voice by now carried more of a hint of disbelief coupled with bewilderment. “So is she saying that a document that came to her at Parliament on August 8 at 3.26pm, setting out these matters and detailing the matters I am talking about, was just made up?”

This time the answer was longer – but no less dismissive. “I have no idea what the member is talking about.”

That statement brought the House down. Peters had to sit down, having seemingly run out of ammunition, blank or otherwise. …

Turia later called a press conference at which she once again vigorously denied Peters’ claims and released an email from her staff last month to various Maori identities saying it would not be appropriate for the minister to divert resources to help any group prepare its bid to administer and allocate funding of Whanau Ora contracts.

An allegation from Winston is like a stopped clock – he hits the mark by accident twice a day, but generally it is all crap.

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22 Responses to “Peters aims, fires and misses again”

  1. BeaB (2,125 comments) says:

    he didn’t get any further at Question Time so was reduced to bluster. He really is looking more and more senile.

    And Annette King had to sit down, utterly defeated by Tony Ryall.

    Great to see English, Ryall and Collins firing on all cylinders.

    And, to be rather personal, why is Ruth Dyson’s large bust down round her waist? Surely she can afford a bra!

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  2. Elaycee (4,393 comments) says:

    It’s long overdue for him to go off into the sunset and retire.

    Once upon a time, Winston Peters in the chamber was like listening to the sound of a thousand cannons.

    Nowadays, its more akin to the damp fart from a buggered pop gun. :D

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  3. flipper (4,084 comments) says:

    Marvellous…

    And today in The House, he dug deeper into his cesspit of lies.
    Turia’s responses were admirably restrained.
    Geeezzz….
    When Les Munro was nearing his exit time he was better than Peters. That pisshead is past his use-by date, many times over,

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  4. Liberty (267 comments) says:

    “ I have no idea what the member is talking about.”
    If the lefty media weren’t so spineless they would have said that 20yrs ago.
    The man is a charlatan and should be treated as such.
    Tariana Turia you are a hero.

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  5. flipper (4,084 comments) says:

    BeaB (1,735) Says:
    September 25th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
    ******

    Naughty….but true!

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  6. sparky (235 comments) says:

    #BeaB, Your comment was so exactly inline with what I was thinking. I felt very embarrassed looking at Ruth Dyson. What a sad case.

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  7. doggone7 (808 comments) says:

    flipper:
    “And today in The House, he dug deeper into his cesspit of lies.”

    Specifically, what lies did he tell in the house today?

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  8. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    i have no time for Peters but it seems many correspondents here have missed the point.

    Large sums of taxpayers money are being pissed up against the wall and wasted in the cause of
    keeping the Maori Party and their constituents happy.

    That is the point at issue here.
    Not whether Peters has gone senile or not.

    Certainly nothing to do with Dysons tits. (Although i do agree that they are gross)

    Whanau Ora is the disgrace here, not Peters, not Dyson.

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  9. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    And on a quite nasty note.

    When you look at Dysons greasy unkempt hair, her florid complexion and her bust, don’t you just cringe when
    you conjure with an image of how hairy her legs must be ?
    Ugh!

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  10. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    beryl and pissing against a wall… I will hold my tongue :)

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  11. James Stephenson (2,191 comments) says:

    @beryl – given that most of the welfare budget appears to be pissing money against various walls, what really is the extra problem if we try pissing some in a Maori style, given that honkies aren’t excluded from the golden shower action?

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  12. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    nickb- very wise mate, you just hold on to it.

    Why would you make a comment and risk revealing again that you are just a young prat ?

    But, by the way, do you have any comment relevant to the subject of this thread.

    Didn’t think so.

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  13. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    James Stevenson @5.58

    What a very silly comment.

    You seem to be saying. ‘We are already wasting so much money, so what is wrong
    with wasting some more as long as it is on Maoris?’

    Your use of the term ‘honkies ‘ is very revealing.
    You seem to have a bit of a chip on your shoulder.

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  14. hj (7,033 comments) says:

    Peters aims, fires and misses again

    ——————–
    It was beginning to look like this was not going to be a winebox moment for Peters. Government MPs were enjoying the extremely rare sight of him firing what seemed to be blanks.

    good that he is looking and prepared to question what the Greens and labour wouldn’t

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  15. Fisiani (1,039 comments) says:

    Winston’s slowing thought processes that were so evident in Parliament today are evidence of his increasing cerebral deterioration. Given how much he has obviously worsened in the last two years I wonder if he can be viable in November 2014. A diagnosis of degenerative alcoholic/nicotinic encephalopathy seems likely. There is no way, in my opinion that he can be mentally competent 2014-17.

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  16. hj (7,033 comments) says:

    Liberty (160) Says:
    September 25th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
    “ I have no idea what the member is talking about.”
    If the lefty media weren’t so spineless they would have said that 20yrs ago.
    …………………………………………..

    “The big adverse gap in productivity between New Zealand and other countries opened up from the 1970s to the early 1990s. The policy choice that increased immigration – given the number of employers increasingly unable to pay First-World wages to the existing population and all the capital requirements that increasing populations involve – looks likely to have worked almost directly against the adjustment New Zealand needed to make and it might have been better off with a lower rate of net immigration. This adjustment would have involved a lower real interest rate (and cost of capital) and a lower real exchange rate, meaning a more favourable environment for raising the low level of productive capital per worker and labour productivity. The low level of capital per worker is a striking symptom of New Zealand’s economic challenge.

    http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/reviews-consultation/savingsworkinggroup/pdfs/swg-report-jan11.pdf

    deathly silence

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  17. Couchpotatoe (35 comments) says:

    Speaking of past their use by date, is it not time for Nick Smith to go. He is an embarrassment to the Nats with continual blundering in operational matters. Been there too long and believes the end justifies the means. Shows an inability to discern his role as a minister. Unfortunate combination of Engineer, career Polly and Tory. Simply knows everything and can not be told. Well when it is found to have mislead parliament yet again Key will tell him where to go.

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  18. Keeping Stock (10,342 comments) says:

    @ Fisiani – all those late nights, mixed grills at the Green Parrot, fags and whiskies have caught up the the Right Honourable gentleman. I really wonder if he has another election campaign in him.

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  19. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    nickb
    you really are so obvious.
    So fukin shallow.
    Pathetic.

    Any observation to make regarding the sublect at hand ?

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  20. Fisiani (1,039 comments) says:

    Watch Winston on parliamentary TV in 2008 then in 2011,12 and 13 and see with your eyes his mental decline.

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  21. Ian McK (237 comments) says:

    Flapper: You should write children’s stories, you have that Enid Blyton touch!

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  22. James Stephenson (2,191 comments) says:

    What a very silly comment.

    You seem to be saying. ‘We are already wasting so much money, so what is wrong
    with wasting some more as long as it is on Maoris?’

    Your use of the term ‘honkies ‘ is very revealing.
    You seem to have a bit of a chip on your shoulder.

    No, actually Beryl, it was serious comment made in a silly way (well it *was* beer o’clock)

    What I’m saying is, we already waste a lot of money, so why not try letting Maoris spend it in a different way. I really don’t see that we can get less value than we currently do, and there does seem to be a big potential up side, given how over-represented Maori are in some stats. The whole thing is adminstered and run by Maori, with a focus on Maori, but non-Maori are not excluded from the programs so I reckon it’s worth a shot.

    What does my use of the word “honkies” reveal? I am one, and a pom to boot. So what?

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