Aust Labor proposed a gay MP quota!

October 3rd, 2013 at 12:00 pm by David Farrar

The ABC reports:

Labor leadership candidate Bill Shorten wants to introduce to boost the number of gay and lesbian politicians in Parliament.

Mr Shorten is continuing his pitch to the party membership, sending out a manifesto that calls for the introduction of quotas for politicians representing minority groups.

He says the party should consider quotas for Indigenous Australians and the lesbian, gay, bixsexual, transgender and intersex (LGBTI) community.

NZ Labour are introducing a gender quota, and I don’t see how you can argue for a gender quota yet argue against a gay quota. Once you start down the quota route, it is hard to stop.

Also having a gay quota will be challenging also. Do you have a quota for LGBTI generally or individual quotas for each subset? Lesbians won’t accept a gay man as necessarily representing their interests, so you may need a separate quota for gay men, lesbian women, bisexual men, bisexual women, pre-op transsexuals, post-op transsexuals and intersex persons.

Or you could of course just not have quotas at all on the basis they are demeaning and they judge a person on just one aspect of what makes them up.

There is nothing wrong with having a commitment to diversity. But quotas are a very harmful way of achieving diversity.

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21 Responses to “Aust Labor proposed a gay MP quota!”

  1. graham (2,216 comments) says:

    If he wants a quota for gays and lesbians, then it seems only right we should have a quota for straight men and straight women.

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  2. radvad (666 comments) says:

    This of course puts the lie to queer claims that they want to be treated like everyone else. The agenda was always about achieving special and protected status. Don’t believe me? Just try saying something they don’t like.

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  3. shoreboy57 (132 comments) says:

    Thought they would have surpassed the quota already…………

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  4. kowtow (7,653 comments) says:

    And why not?

    It’s all about “equality” these days,whatever the hell equality is.

    Parliament redefined marriage in the name of equality,this is no different.

    Simply more “progressive” politics.

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  5. alloytoo (434 comments) says:

    ummmmmm so much for Meritocracy.

    We could also have a quota for Blonde’s Brunette’s and Redheads…..and bald people.

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  6. mandk (824 comments) says:

    Yeah, what about quotas for left handed and colour blind people too?
    I’m both those things, and I face discrimination because of them every day of my life.

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  7. mandk (824 comments) says:

    and what about quotas for member of religious groups as well?

    my Christianity defines me, I didn’t choose to be a Christian, and I face abuse and discrimination because of it.

    I’m sure I could think of heaps of other groups that merit quotas.

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  8. Shazzadude (506 comments) says:

    “NZ Labour are introducing a gender quota, and I don’t see how you can argue for a gender quota yet argue against a gay quota. Once you start down the quota route, it is hard to stop.”

    Labour are over-represented by gays in relation to the overall population (4 out of 34), so there isn’t really an argument for such a quota.

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  9. Elaycee (4,305 comments) says:

    What about a quota to cover a well adjusted, educated, able bodied, white hetrosexual male who is married with a family and spends their working week earning a living in exchange for their contribution to Company goals?

    No? Didn’t think so either…. this demographic just wouldn’t fit within Labour circa 2013.

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  10. RAS (62 comments) says:

    The irony in NZ is that such a quota would mean that Labour would either have to drop politicians, or some of them would have to go back into the closet in order to avoid “over-representation”.

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  11. ChardonnayGuy (1,137 comments) says:

    I’m inclined to question quotas as well. If there are more LGBT candidates elected in 2014 or 2017, whether on the party list or winning a constituency, then great. Proportional representation electoral systems tend to result in greater diversity of representation on their own, which is why quotas may be superfluous in our own context, although as for non-proportional electoral systems like those in Australia (PV) or Great Britain (FPP), there might be more merit.

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  12. bringbackdemocracy (396 comments) says:

    If they believed in true representation they would choose MPs randomly out of the phone book, rather than the local gay-bar like they do now.

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  13. Ed Snack (1,739 comments) says:

    I oppose any commitment to “diversity” especially with regard to spacial interest groups. If some MPs are specifically chosen because they are homosexual, it becomes all about them as that’s how the “victim poker” game works. We don’t want MPs obsessed about them, we want MPs with their constituents interests at heart !

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  14. tvb (4,210 comments) says:

    The Australian Labour Party at the federal level is not a party that can bring about stable Government. Whereas the Liberal Party can. A moderate centre-right Liberal- National Government will govern indefinitely with this sort of carry on Lucky lucky Tony Abbott and his team.

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  15. Harriet (4,534 comments) says:

    Quotas make gays look like fish and livestock. There is no dignity in that for gays or anyone else.

    It’s all about pushing ‘their’ agenda and getting the vote from the ‘emotional’ generation.

    And besides, you can’t have equality and diversity at the sme time. :cool:

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  16. Harriet (4,534 comments) says:

    Quotas make gays look like fish and livestock. There is no dignity in that for gays or anyone else.

    It’s all about pushing ‘their’ agenda and getting the vote from the ‘emotional’ generation.

    And besides, you can’t have equality and diversity at the same time due to the fact there are too many groups to cater for in a parliment.

    Some livestock is more equal than others. :cool:

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  17. Paulus (2,503 comments) says:

    The problem is still here that Female Homosexuals continue to hate Male Homosexuals anyway, and v.v.
    Nothing has changed.

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  18. Chuck Bird (4,686 comments) says:

    I think they would be pushing shit uphill if they proposed that here in NZ.

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  19. Dennis Horne (2,059 comments) says:

    What about a quota for intelligence and integrity?

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  20. nickb (3,662 comments) says:

    I think they would be pushing shit uphill if they proposed that here in NZ.

    Was that choice of words intentional?!

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  21. Chuck Bird (4,686 comments) says:

    @nickb

    What do you think?

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