Lengate losers and winners

October 18th, 2013 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

Normally I call these posts winners and losers but in this case there are far more losers than winners. Let’s take them in approximate order.

Losers

  1. . May keep his job but not his credibility or dignity. If he holds on he is a lame duck Mayor who will face three years of people tittering about him at public events. No real chance  of winning a third term. Faces weeks or more of investigations into whether there was improper spending, his providing a reference to Chuang etc.
  2. . Exposed as a liar, and someone who uses a romantic relationship to pressure his partner into political favours. Now a household name in a bad way. Political future is non-existent.
  3. . She’s had her criminal history exposed, her love life, and her employment history, Worse, she did it all voluntarily with a giggling tape recording of her exploits with Brown, and a sworn affidavit. While she attracts a lot of sympathy as being somewhat naive, she also has no political future.
  4. . Fired as NBR Chief Reporter for writing an editorial supporting Brown keeping his job against alleged instructions for NBR to take a neutral line on the issue.
  5. . Palino has done nothing wrong, and I do not believe for a second he knew anything of this. However the actions of Wewege have created a perception that will leave doubts with some. An unfortunate victim, who might have been Mayor if the affair had been exposed before the election.
  6. The threatening texter. The person who sent the threatening text to Chuang pushed this issue into the open. A huge backfire. Will their identity be revealed, and who may they damage by association when it comes out?
  7. The voters of Auckland. They have to wait three years (unless Brown resigns) to have their say on whether they found the behaviour acceptable.

Winners

  1. . As the Civilian points out Whale likes nothing more than page views and visits. He’s had 750,000 page views in two days. He not only broke the story, but covered himself by insisting on tape recordings and sworn affidavits. Cameron doesn’t want to be liked – he wants to be relevant, and this week he has set the news.
  2. . Brewer wisely didn’t contest the 2013 Mayoral elections. He must now be a front-runner for 2016.
  3. . She doesn’t want the job, but if Brown resigns she is the most likely candidate for the left, and could well end up Mayor. Will depend who stands against her.

In terms of the story itself, the Herald reports:

Bevan Chuang is confident Len Brown will be cleared by a spending inquiry in the wake of their extra-marital affair, saying he paid for everything out of his own pocket.

However, she believed that some of the rooms he booked for the pair were offered free of charge by hotel managers. …

Ms Chuang said she met Mr Brown three times at the Langham, SkyCity Grand and Hilton hotels for sex after collecting the keys to the rooms from reception at the Town Hall.

A spokeswoman for the Hilton said the hotel would not give complimentary rooms to Mr Brown, while a spokeswoman for SkyCity Grand would not comment on guests for privacy reasons. A spokesman for the Langham did not return a phone message. …

The 32-year-old former mistress said: “He sometimes takes some time off and goes to hotel rooms, and quite a few times managers would tell him ‘it’s fine, 

it’s on us. We can organise somewhere private for you’.

“He often feels uncomfortable and wanted to go down and pay but usually the manager would [insist] ‘no no, it’s on us’.”

The rooms also came with antipasto food platters and nuts, she said.

Ms Chuang believed the rooms were offered free to Mr Brown so that he could “talk about” and “recommend it” for council patronage.

I think the only thing which might be worse than having had the Council pay for hotel rooms for the trysts with your mistress, was if the hotels were providing free rooms for the trysts. It’s like he’s the Prime Minister of Italy.

Just imagine if Sky City were providing free hotel rooms for Mayoral trysts, at the same time as Len Brown was backing the convention centre deal with them? Hard to argue that is not a public issue.

Mr Brown would check-in at the hotel himself and then arrange for a spare room key to be delivered back to the council in an envelope addressed to Ms Chuang.

Ms Chuang, who also speaks Cantonese and Mandarin, claimed Mr Brown used the mayoral car and driver to pick up and drop her off on two occasions when he took her to council dinners as his interpreter.

Again, hard to argue that this isn’t use of Council resources.

In another story the Herald reports:

Auckland Mayor Len Brown and council chief executive Doug McKay are refusing to answer key questions arising from the mayor’s extra-marital affair with Bevan Chuang, including whether he breached the council’s code of conduct.

The two most powerful figures at the council have stonewalled the Herald for two days on whether Mr Brown has broken council rules and what the rules are for council staff having sex in the workplace. …

Mr Brown and Mr McKay also refused to say if Ms Chuang had a council contract at the New Lynn market. She claimed to be paid $500 a week by the council as a co-ordinator at the market.

So if I have this right:

  • Chuang was a Mayoral appointee to the Ethnic Panel – personally appointed and re-appointed by the Mayor
  • Chuang gained a job at a Council CCO after the Mayor provided her with a glowing reference
  • Chuang has a Council contract as a market co-ordinator

Again, makes it very hard to argue this is entirely a private matter.

The questions

Len Brown and council chief executive Doug McKay have yet to answer the following:

• Did [Mr Brown's actions providing a reference for Bevan Chuang] comply with the Council Code of Conduct, including the Conflicts of Interest Policy and the guidelines of the Office of the Auditor-General?

• Did the mayor seek advice from the chief executive or the Office of the Auditor-General before deciding to provide a reference or act as a referee?

• Did the mayor provide any other references/act as a referee for Ms Chuang on other occasions?

• Has Ms Chuang been contracted by the council in any other capacity, including the New Lynn market?

• What are the rules around council staff having sex in the workplace?

Len’s now cancelled all appointments for two days in a row. The story will not go away until he fully fronts, and these questions are answered,

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80 Responses to “Lengate losers and winners”

  1. adamsmith1922 (888 comments) says:

    Go, for god’s sake go you obnoxious little man and take your clutch of overpaid and unnecessary spin weasels with you Mr Brown

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  4. BeaB (2,058 comments) says:

    Another loser
    The Herald.
    Thoroughly scooped by a blogger.
    Descends to blackening his and others’ names, guilt by association (Palino, Slater Snr) and running an obnoxious cartoon portraying John Key (the son of a Jewish mother who fled Nazi Germany) in jackboots along with a group of others in Nazi uniforms.
    No sign in the line-up of sleazy Left-wing Len Brown of course who exploited a silly and ambitious young woman for his own sordid pleasure.
    No wonder tipsters turn to bloggers.

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  5. slijmbal (1,211 comments) says:

    As an exercise went through all the articles on the Herald web site (bored and off work today) and the focus is almost entirely on everyone other than Len. Anyone seen as on the opposite side to Len seems to get a -ve article. Rudman is particularly spiteful and personal about Whaloil’s dad.

    I thought Whaleoil’s original statement of how this would be spun by the media to be about everyone but Len was his often overcooked opinion but this and Campbell’s televised Len hugathon have changed my opinion.

    The media appear to be making sure that they ‘take out’ anyone perceived as anti-Len.

    That aside – it might be a good thing if he stays in as it will make it much harder, especially with a more right leaning council, to keep spending our money so recklessly.

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  7. alex Masterley (1,490 comments) says:

    Rudman is a spiteful and corrosive old man who sees his relevance disappearing.
    He writes like that too.

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  8. Jafa (37 comments) says:

    DF – You forgot to add Lens wife and family to the list of losers. As this story continues to unfold the wife may yet decide to exact her own form of utu in due course!

    [DPF: I thought of mentioning them, but decided to focus on the political side only. I think it is obvious they are massively distraught by this]

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  9. gazzmaniac (2,317 comments) says:

    You forget that John Banks is a winner. Everyone is focusing on who Len Brown is fucking instead of John Banks’ election return.

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  10. ciaron (1,315 comments) says:

    One word (well, maybe it’s two): Clusterfuck.

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  11. Reid (15,947 comments) says:

    I have another question: Did Brown know about Bevan’s conviction before he gave her a reference?

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  12. UrbanNeocolonialist (182 comments) says:

    Len Brown is actually in the winners list (as much as it might piss us off). He will pocket (after tax) $1.5 million over 3 years, a huge sum. far more than most see after tax in a lifetime. Might need it to pay his (probably likely) divorce.

    Ratepayers are (as always when the left is at the wheel) the losers.

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  13. adamsmith1922 (888 comments) says:

    Ross69
    Having had to fire someone, in a past life, for far less than Brown’s behaviour because his behaviour to a female colleague was not appropriate I would suggest that in the private sector Brown’s antics would be cause for instant dismissal. Many companies have very clear guidelines on issues such as this, unlike it would seem the Auckland Council. Incidentally the more senior one of the parties is, the more likely he/she would get fired. The willingness of so many to excuse Brown because he is good leader/Mayor is ridiculous. By his actions Brown has demonstrated he is no such thing and that he lacks judgment.

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  14. Right of way is Way of Right (1,129 comments) says:

    I think another loser in this is the MSM. One of the biggest stories of the year, and it was broken by a blogger. The ineffectiveness of the MSM, and the subsequent fallout as they try to paint Cam Slater in to a corner is something to behold. I stopped buying the NZ Herald a long time ago, now I don’t even read it. I wouldn’t wipe my ass with it now, to be honest!

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  15. Yogibear (288 comments) says:

    Biggest loser – the cleaners. WON’T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CLEANERS!!!!!

    Other losers – everyone who has shaken that hand in the mayoral office and sat on that couch.

    Biggest loser AND winner – the security guard. There are some things you just can’t unsee. On the other hand, the man is clearly the height of discretion and if I was managing a bad-boy rock star, or a wayward royal, I’d be trying to get this guy on staff ASAP!

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  16. BeaB (2,058 comments) says:

    Another loser
    The two dozen PR, media and communications personal staff for Len Brown who obviously failed to warn him, inform the CEO (or did they? has anyone asked?), cover their backsides by making an official note somewhere (or did they?), record the number of visits by Chuang to the office etc etc etc.
    What was this over-paid team doing? All looking the other way? Or having a good snigger at the Mayor?
    They were on Auckland’s payroll so their loyalty was not a personal one to Len Brown. Why didn’t they do their job?

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  17. radvad (665 comments) says:

    Did anyone else read somewhere in the media frenzy this past week, that a council staff member (I think a security officer) was sacked for doing the deed on council property? From memory it was circa 2005.

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  18. peterwn (3,160 comments) says:

    adamsmith1922 – Auckland Council would surely have rules re employee conduct even if they were provisionally adopted from its predecessors. In the absence of such rules, such behaviour would be ‘misconduct’ or ‘serious misconduct’ under general employment law. The difficulty in this instance is the office of Mayor of Auckland is established by legislation as an combined executive/governance job with no apparent ‘employer’ other than Parliament, or possibly the Minister of Internal Affairs. This may similarly apply to any other Mayor. In practice a resignation can be procured in almost all cases by turning up the heat on the delinquent. It seems in this case the Council CEO after gathering facts and making inquiries can indicate he has no option but to refer the matter to the Minister of Internal Affairs who AFAIK can vacate the Mayor’s office and appoint a commissioner. This would be guaranteed to result in a resignation.

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  19. anonymouse (695 comments) says:

    If you want to see a lovely example of “fingers in the ears” while shouting “nah nah nah nah nothing to see here” I offer this item on Radio NZ
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/regional/225014/brown-could-be-back-to-work-in-days

    “Lawyer Steven Price says he suspects reporting of the affair would be ruled in court to be of public interest.
    But he told Morning Report the initial story had a lot of sordid sexual detail that wouldn’t meet the public interest test.”

    I mean I have heard no one else bring up the “his privacy has been breached” issue, cause I’m damn sure that Len Brown is not going to, He wants this story to die as soon as possible, Taking a privacy breach against Whaleoil is like wrestling pigs in mud, you get very dirty and the pigs enjoy it……

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  20. tvb (4,205 comments) says:

    The Chief Executive probably told Len to keep the sex off premises hence the hotels. I assume no assurance could be given regarding staff keeping mum. Getting complementary hotel rooms does raise some issues. I wonder what other freebies the Mayor gets.

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  21. Pete George (22,839 comments) says:

    One question not on the list.

    According to Whale Oil there could beother anxious women wondering if they will be added to the losers list (debateably they are already on it).

    To stop the other women…and there are other women, there is more than enough info available now to be able to say that, to stop them coming forward.

    http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2013/10/full-court-press-bevan-chuang/

    If true there should still be no need for other women to be dragged into this. If Len Brown fronted up and admitted there were other women, took responsibility and protected them. Or of course if he denies there are any others.

    This question should be answered.

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  22. Harriet (4,514 comments) says:

    Lengate losers and winners.

    Well it wouldn’t be called Leggate as they were wide open – but they are now both losers!

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  23. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    These two people needed to explain that their boinking was just a private matter, and the other people on the flight should just ignore them…

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-troubles/9298633/Couple-fined-over-alleged-sex-acts-on-flight

    I’m interested in the txted threats. As others have pointed out, the language wasn’t really that threatening. It wasn’t as if they promised that a group of waterfront union officials would pop around to enforce a bit of leftie utu, which is how Auckland machine politicians often sort out their enemies. However, it is likely that the sender was associated with Brown and may have been employed by Auckland Council.

    In which case, is it normal for Auckland Council staff to send anonymous txts which intimidate the receiver, then refuse to answer the phone so that the txts cannot be traced? The media have reported the sender phone rings through to a generic voicemail. “Burner phones” are used by criminals and spys… they shouldn’t be a normal part of Council business.

    And I asked a question yesterday about Auckland Council PR staff and how they could be involved in this case if it was in fact a private matter. I’d like to ask about the statement of the daughters, which was apparently written for them. Who wrote it? Auckland Council staff? If so, why are Council staff providing PR services for the daughter of a man who insists that his misconduct is a private matter not involved with Council business?

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  24. lazza (358 comments) says:

    So guys and gals … What chance does the AC investigation of Len’s hotel bills and canapes- snacks (lingerie purchases?) have of being?:

    “balanced, unconflicted, independent, fearless in its probing, unlimited as to scope if “something turns up that smells”, prosecuted by bulldogs instead of poodles …

    Haaah! .

    Answer : SFA.

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  25. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    Len Brown has handled this whole affair revelation extremely badly. It’s a good thing the Herald seems to be trying to get answers to the harder questions, you should take note Mr Campbell.

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  26. greenjacket (417 comments) says:

    Ross69 wrote:
    “What are the rules around council staff having sex in the workplace?
    I doubt there are any. What are the rules at your workplace?”

    Easy. Most businesses I am aware of have rules for inapproriate behavior – offensive comments or conduct likely to bring the business into disrepute or to interfere with the conduct of one’s job will result in some sort of disciplinary action including likely dismissal. So having sex at the office or having an affair with a client and not disclosing the relationship when there is possible favoritism or gain will get most people the sack. I could provide with some examples if you realy want – suffice to say, if Len Brown was where I work, he would be put on “stress leave” and told to look for another job.

    Ross69 – are you in paid employment? I ask because the tone of many of your comments suggests you have never been in paid employment.

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  27. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    lazza>So guys and gals … What chance does the AC investigation of Len’s hotel bills and canapes- snacks (lingerie purchases?) have of being?

    That isn’t the issue since it seems almost certain that Brown wasn’t expensing his affair. He didn’t need to, because hotels around Auckland were giving him rooms for free when he needed to have extra-marital sex. If he declared these on the Council’s register of gifts, then it is a borderline case. If not, then he has been accepting bribes.

    It is sort of ironic that Banks is being prosecuted for not declaring donations that were used for valid purposes in an election campaign. While Brown appears to have accepted donations of services from Auckland businesses that he used to promote his sex life. If Banks is prosecuted, then Brown should be prosecuted as well. Maybe someone can bring a private prosecution?

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  28. Adele Keys (39 comments) says:

    Will be glad to see Jock Anderson’s garbage off the front page of the NBR!

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  29. Reid (15,947 comments) says:

    It’s a good thing the Herald seems to be trying to get answers to the harder questions,

    Perhaps you’ve been reading a different edition to the one all the rest of us have been reading, Bevan.

    I think Cam’s latest post covers the bases:

    http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2013/10/full-court-press-bevan-chuang/#more-113896

    Most especially true that the media have treated Bevan very poorly indeed. She’s the victim in this and they’ve made her out to be the villain. That is really shocking, if not unsurprising, but it shows the depraved levels to which they stoop, to take it out on the innocent and ignore the guilty.

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  30. lazza (358 comments) says:

    DavidP “Come on Cobber”!

    An “expenses” audit of Len … pure and simple (an independent-comprehensive one that is) includes non cash “freebies”.

    Like … where does the word “investigation” suggest that it should only dig into cash stuff?. Go figure … “please’.

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  31. Pete George (22,839 comments) says:

    Brian Rudman is going hard out attacking the Slaters while giving Len Brown a free pass. It’s interesting comparing this with s column that he wrote on Richard Worth in 2009.

    Old goats need a swift kick – but no apology necessary from the old Brown mayor.

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  32. Pete George (22,839 comments) says:

    NZH is pursuing questions: Len Brown affair: Who sent the text?

    In all the questions surrounding the Len Brown affair, one of the unsolved ones is who sent the text to his former mistress telling her not to speak out.

    Naturally, everyone in the media has called the number and, just as naturally, no-one is picking up.

    So we are setting out to find out who sent the text and whose phone it is.

    We have journalists working on it right now but have you got any tips how we can find out the owner or track down information?

    If you’ve got any information or you can help please get in touch.

    The background is that Bevan Chuang says she received an anonymous text last week, just days before the mayoral election, warning her off going public with her revelations.

    It was sent from 021 0244 6071.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11142257

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  33. kiwi in america (2,436 comments) says:

    ross 69
    We fired our GM because he came back to the office drunk. In that instance we gave him the chance to work for another 2 weeks to tidy up files. If I’d caught him rooting a chick on my desk he would’ve been out the door that instance. We had a similar offensive and inappropriate bahaviour clause referred to by Green jacket with a specific drug/alcohol influence clause.

    David to your list of questions add:
    How many hours have salaried council staff spent managing the PR, spin and dirty tricks on behalf of the mayor on just the specific issue of the Cheung affair?

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  34. Longknives (4,456 comments) says:

    “Another loser
    The two dozen PR, media and communications personal staff for Len Brown who obviously failed to warn him…”

    Yeah- I always find it curious when someone’s entourage fails to ‘watch their back’.
    A bit like all Michael Jackson’s minders and advisors. Why did nobody ever say “Umm Mike we think you need to cut back the sleepovers with ten year old boys”??

    Len’s team let him down- But then..maybe he is just that self-righteous and arrogant that he ignored the warnings?

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  36. graham (2,215 comments) says:

    As far as the Herald trying to find out whose phone it is, good luck with that. If the person who sent the text had ANY sense at all, they bought a cheap prepay anonymously and it’s now been dumped following publication of the number.

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  38. RightNow (6,659 comments) says:

    Something that’s buggin me – who outed Bevan Chuang and what was their motive?
    Len Brown did – he made sure he put enough information in the public domain that her identity would quickly be revealed.
    And I think Whale is right that one of Len’s motives for outing Bevan Chuang was to scare off any other women out there, but it was also to make sure Chuang got burnt just like Len did.

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  39. Nookin (3,035 comments) says:

    gump

    You win some and you lose some. Slater has had his losses. This will count as a win for him. You may not see it as a win because you apply different criteria. DPF applied Slater’s criteria. That is what count to Slater.

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  40. projectman (204 comments) says:

    Right of way you are right!

    The point of wiping your ass is to remove the shit, not add more. I wonder if the Herald uses recycled paper.

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  41. RightNow (6,659 comments) says:

    ross69: slater “has almost certainly breached the mayor’s privacy.One can only hope that that Len Brown sues.”

    YES! Let the Masturbating Mayor sue Whaleoil. If he doesn’t we know it’s because there’s even worse stuff that hasn’t come out yet and Lying Len is chickenshit scared.

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  42. RRM (9,453 comments) says:

    Vote up if you are tired of political scandals having the meaningless suffix “-gate” attached to them…

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  43. calendar girl (1,174 comments) says:

    ross69@12:03 – you’re making a proper numpty of yourself.

    Like RightNow, most of us would just love to see the Left’s Lascivious Len bring defamation proceedings against Cameron Slater. The fun wouldn’t be the goings-on in the courtroom itself, but watching the MSM trying to report it.

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  44. adamsmith1922 (888 comments) says:

    What is all the nonsense about Brown’s privacy. Nobody seemed to be so concerned when it was Nick Smith or Richard Worth under the gun. Indeed many were all in favour of knowing more. No thought was given to privacy or families by the left when Smith and Worth were under attack, but all of a sudden we are supposed to ‘feel’ for Brown and his family, along with his entourage of PR flacks, we should give him space so he can comeback and lead us. Piffle, tosh, balderdash, hypocrisy, outrageous.

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  45. tvb (4,205 comments) says:

    Slater broke this story and insisted on getting fairly reliable information before doing so. ,hard luck Len Brown. If you don’t like this publicity then don’t have affairs.

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  46. Paulus (2,501 comments) says:

    I hear the Original Luigi from New Zealand First is lodging an injunction to somebody using his name !

    Also it would appear that the Mayoral swearing in will take place behind locked doors as Lying Len will find that he will not like the boos and hisses that will precede the ceremony.
    Some Uni (even lefties) renta a crowd are planning to attend, if possible, according to a young rellie.
    Even they are disgusted.

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  47. gump (1,487 comments) says:

    @RightNow

    “Something that’s buggin me – who outed Bevan Chuang and what was their motive?
    Len Brown did – he made sure he put enough information in the public domain that her identity would quickly be revealed.
    And I think Whale is right that one of Len’s motives for outing Bevan Chuang was to scare off any other women out there, but it was also to make sure Chuang got burnt just like Len did.”

    ———————–

    It was Stephen Cook who outed Bevan Chuang on Slater’s blog.

    In his original article he revealed her ethnicity, age, and relationship to the mayor. The third comment on the blog post was able to correctly “guess” her identity from the information provided.

    You can verify all of this at:

    http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2013/10/exclusive-len-brown-sordid-affair-run-town-hall/#axzz2i1kYVzq3

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  48. Chuck Bird (4,682 comments) says:

    “His conduct has been disgraceful, and he has almost certainly breached the mayor’s privacy. One can only hope that that Len Brown sues. ”

    Ross, I hope he does as well but for a different reason. It would further confirm what a bloody fool he is.

    I am sure some scumbag lawyer would encourage him to but not tell him the chance actually getting any money would be remote. Most of the anonymous lawyers on this blog will not be honest with their client like a good tradesman is when he sorry mate your car is not worth repairing.

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  49. ByterNZ (25 comments) says:

    I think the fact that Bevan had a criminal conviction explains *a lot* more about her motivation.

    Alan: Claiming that Bevan had “a fairly bright future ahead of her” is rather naive now that we know about her conviction. Just try to convince anyone that had she won the council seat, the media wouldn’t have uncovered her criminal conviction and ran with it in short order, especially for a member of a center-right party. She couldn’t even keep a job at an Art Gallery with it. There’s no way that she would have rose above councilor with the “Dragon Baby” article in circulation, but a dishonesty conviction makes any of her political prospects pretty poor, even before all of this came out.

    The timeline now becomes a bit clearer (although the dates aren’t!):

    July 2008: Gets made redundant from Auckland Museum. Must have known something was coming and was trying to dig up dirt by hacking into the director’s e-mail. Was trying to coordinate something with at least one other person being made redundant.

    August 2009: Gets criminally convicted of dishonesty. Given that her qualifications are pretty much specialized with museums, she now has a *big* problem, since at museums where you’re dealing with valuable objects, etc, someone with a dishonesty conviction is the last type of person you’d want to be working there. At pretty much every company with an HR department, hiring someone with a criminal conviction is an “exception” process, as in the person who wants to hire that person needs to have a really good reason why what that person can do outweights the criminal conviction. Therefore, those people go to the bottom of the pile in almost all hiring decisions. From this point on, she’s slowly sinking.
    (Whaleoil/NZH article says conviction happened in 2010?)

    August 2009 – 2011: looks like she basically tried to transition to a new type of career out of necessity, using her good looks to try to gain other types of work where her criminal conviction wouldn’t be that closely looked at.

    2011 (per affidavit): She’s probably becoming desperate at this point, and then Len Brown comes around, and the affair starts.

    July 2011: Tries to use Len Brown’s influence to get back into her preferred position of working at a museum/gallery via the Auckland Art Gallery. (again, NZH says “Last year”, and then says “2011″?!).

    August 2011 or December 2011: (Again, NZH dates are confusing!). Gets fired from the Art Gallery due to her criminal conviction. (There were probably HR discussions and anguishing about this for months).

    Jan 14th, 2012: The “Dragon Baby” article runs. Knowing what we know now, I’m pretty sure this article was actually a subtle announcement that she’s becoming a “ernai” ( http://www.aeonmagazine.com/living-together/why-young-women-in-rural-china-become-the-mistresses-of-wealthy-older-men/ ) and she’s looking for a different sugar daddy. This would especially make sense if the Art Gallery attempt did happen in 2011, because then she would know that she’s not going to be able to get back in her favoured profession, but the ernai path is starting to give her a few dividends, and she’s probably starting to get stars in her eyes about politics.

    Rest of 2012-2013: Has at least one other relationship/Sugar daddy. But Len Brown was responsible for her rising in social circles, and without his influence, her star is falling (speculation, but 30′s really is a bit late for ernais).

    So it’s not true that she went from bright future to where she is now (Acutely bad situation, where she’s probably going to have to go back to Hong Kong), more like going from cronically bad situation and slowly drowning to horribly bad situation.

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  50. Pete George (22,839 comments) says:

    ByterNZ – I also found some of those dates confusing in reports.

    Have you got as timeline and motivation for Len Brown?

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  51. iMP (2,245 comments) says:

    There’s no way Len Brown will sue Whaleoil, Slater or anyone else. Anyone remember Oscar Wilde’s defamation case. Massive full throttle backfire of Titanic proportions.

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  52. sbk (308 comments) says:

    “but have you got any tips how we can find out the owner or track down information?”…finally,an admission ?…that the investigation and actual gathering of information of a story is not in todays Journos skillset…reporters?…nah….as demonstrated over the last couple of days…leftist spin doctors.

    at least reading a blog costs me nothing…

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  53. Pete George (22,839 comments) says:

    Duncan Garner is fairly scathing in a blog post: Resign and stand again Len Brown

    He’s right. And adds to the collection of Questions for Len Brown

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  54. lastmanstanding (1,204 comments) says:

    Given the behavior of the Town Clerk McKay he must either stand down or be stood down by the Minister of Local Government. McKay is deliberately running interference and stone walling the media. This is an abuse of his position and behavior incompatible with his terms of employment. It is not his place to act as a defender of the Mayor. It is his place to carry out the terms and conditions of his over paid job as Town Clerk.
    Unless McKay wants to be facing charges of misfeasance in public office he would be wise to co operate with the media and with the independent inquiry that must be held.

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  55. Pete George (22,839 comments) says:

    There might be more losing as it gets murkier, sounds like the Herald has found something linking John Palino more closely to the Brown affairs:

    Russell Brown ‏@publicaddress

    Hmmm. Hearing that Palino might not be quite as thoroughly distanced from all this as he said … the Herald has a story on the way.

    @ShayneCurrieNZH

    Big new developments in the Len Brown saga in the NZ Herald tomorrow

    This was always on the cards – both Palino being linked and NZH looking and finding.

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  56. Reid (15,947 comments) says:

    How many of these techniques can we see in The Herald’s coverage? I count 24.

    http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2012/04/26/a-citizens-guide-to-understanding-corporate-media-propaganda-techniques/

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  57. Pete George (22,839 comments) says:

    And…

    @TheNationTV3

    Explosive new revelations on the Len Brown affair – is it a right-wing conspiracy? @Rachel_Smalley has the details, 10.00am, @TV3nz tomorrow

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  58. SPC (5,392 comments) says:

    Just imagine if people got access to Sky City boxes and then voted on the Sky City convention centre funding.

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  59. SPC (5,392 comments) says:

    Does having the right to use a Mayoral car/business car for personal use (including passengers) have an exception for people the user is having an affair with? Really?

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  60. SPC (5,392 comments) says:

    ByterNZ, yep the timeline got confused in media reports.

    It seems the reference was given in the earlier year July 2011, before the sexual relationship began in August, during the pursuit phase and a few meetings after they first met in May 2011 when she had just come onto a Council board.

    The original appointment to the board was made in March 2011 by Northey – delegated the role by the Mayor and the issue of any re-appointment was a matter left till after the election.

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  61. Bad__Cat (137 comments) says:

    Of course this must be a VRWC.

    That’s what Hilary claimed about the first (of many) stories about Bill.

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  62. RightNow (6,659 comments) says:

    SPC: “Just imagine if people got access to Sky City boxes and then voted on the Sky City convention centre funding.”

    I’m not really up with who got to vote on the funding, but are you suggesting it was Phil Goff, Annette King, Clayton Cosgrove and Kris Faafoi?

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  63. SPC (5,392 comments) says:

    Right Now, the vote is yet to occur.

    The point being is that MP’s and Mayors get freebies all the time – free food and drinks in Eden Park boxes.

    One standard for all or not?

    And John Banks was a recipient of “anonymous”
    Sky City funding when running for the Mayoralty.

    Personal use of ministerial cars?

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  64. ByterNZ (25 comments) says:

    SPC: The affidavit says that the sexual contact started in June 2011, not August 2011. (Not that the exact time that sexual contact started would make that much difference in a quid-pro-quo case).

    Pete George: No, I don’t have a matching timeline for Len Brown. And that’s even more concerning and confusing to me. After finding out that Bevan had a criminal conviction, the pieces started falling into place, where I could have some idea of the motives around her behaviour, even though it doesn’t excuse the path she took. I can’t fathom why Len Brown, above and beyond the state of just having an affair, did 4 things, all involving the public domain (not just his private life), any one of which would either lead to outright dismissial or at least severe punishment:

    1) Having sex AT WORK, and even in a public space at work (Not even confining it to his office!). If he was caught by the right people, he could have been up for a indecent exposure criminal charge!
    2) Having sex with a subordinate co-worker that he had the power to appoint. (even though that responsibility was delegated). Classic sexual harassment lawsuit target.
    Just #1 or #2 alone would lead to instant dismissial of 99.9% of employees. I can’t imagine that anyone (even Steve Jobs et al) could possibly avoid being dismissed if they did both.
    3) Blatantly misusing his position to provide a reference that was incorrect. (He vouched for someone who had to later be dismissed due to her criminal conviction!). That puts all future references from that organization in jeopardy. Massive employee drain if you know you can’t get a reference that has any credibility.
    4) Misusing gifts from partner organizations in a way that put those partner organizations in disrepute (the free hotel rooms from Sky City et al). Completely ruins any future relationships with those partners.

    Having done *all 4*, Len Brown’s prospects are fatally wounded. And that’s just with *this* affair! (There must have been others, no one acts that blase without massive amounts of experience). I don’t understand why supporters think that Len Brown is so irreplaceable that he must be supported even with this amount of baggage. I understand that they want to get as much traction as they can to attack the center right parties, but wouldn’t they have more credibility if they both said that Len Brown must resign, and then also attack the center right parties? Surely there must be other possible mayors that could enact a left-wing agenda without acting in such a remarkably erratic and destructive fashion?

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  65. RightNow (6,659 comments) says:

    “One standard for all or not?”

    Do you wank at work SPC?

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  66. stigie (908 comments) says:

    Yes you corksoakers, this has to be John Keys fault !!

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  67. doggone7 (695 comments) says:

    Using the same logic used in declaring Cameron Slater to be a winner, albeit in the way he himself sees high achievement, I am sending congratulatory messages to Richie McCaw et al for winning the 2007 Rugby World Cup.

    It is beyond astonishing that an individual can act as he has in the disclosure of the Len Brown affair and be declared some sort of winner.

    If I were generous and lacking spite I would say he is a sad individual who needs help. Since I’m not I think he is nasty, vindictive and destructive and seems to gain pleasure from wallowing in such is his contribution to the planet. What hope is there when people with his attributes are being seen as a community rallying point and source of influence.

    As much as Slater wails about “not shooting the messenger,” the behaviour of Len Brown, Bevan Chuang and Luigi Wewege as bad as it is, pales into insignificance compared to his ongoing malevolent and vile writings.

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  68. Paul Marsden (986 comments) says:

    Time for a sweepstake lads…. My bet is that Brown will be gone on or, before Sunday.

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  69. nickb (3,659 comments) says:

    Explosive new revelations on the Len Brown affair – is it a right-wing conspiracy? @Rachel_Smalley has the details, 10.00am, @TV3nz tomorrow

    Rachel Smalley seems like the kind of person who would need help making toast, so I am not sure she will have found the smoking gun.

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  70. Scott1 (448 comments) says:

    I’m not sure we can say that the threatening texter was a looser in the issue.

    It is possible that the texter was the type of hot head that thinks that sending those texts might be an effective way to stop what they presumably thought was going to be a last minute reveal of the allegations against Len brown. But this sort of person seems like the sort of person that will be caught.

    The second type of person is the sort of person that knows what happens when one threatens such people and wants the reasonably predictable result of things coming out. Of course that person could still be anyone who wanted to hurt Len.

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  71. Cato (1,094 comments) says:

    LOL yes SPC there’s no difference between openly accepting hospitality and clandestinely accepting secret gifts from people facilitating your indulging in personally compromising activities.

    Give up the hackery, mate, it doesn’t suit you and you’re not good at it.

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  72. Azeraph (603 comments) says:

    What if ol Len weathers this out?

    A threatening texter? It sent her sqealing in fright for her life? Isn’t that what we have police for? You can spam a number and block it. I’m not against this girl but neither do i give a hoot. You can’t tell me that she or one of her friends are not up to play with modern tech.

    Poor kid, she’s now the turn on for everyone of my single old friends.

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  73. SPC (5,392 comments) says:

    Cato, did you mean clandestinely knowing of donations to a campaign and then declaring them anonymous?

    Is accepting freebies a wrongdoing or not? Is so it applies to all.

    If there is a difference, it is that Brown tried to pay.

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  74. Cato (1,094 comments) says:

    “Just imagine if people got access to Sky City boxes and then voted on the Sky City convention centre funding.”

    My bad. I didn’t realise that was a reference to John Banks.

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  75. SPC (5,392 comments) says:

    Byter, did Northey or the Mayor know of the criminal conviction in March and July 2011?

    Many people provide references for people with a conviction and none are responsible for the person informing the prospective employer of the conviction.

    Is there any actual example of any CEO being removed for having sex at the workplace?

    There is also difference between work time hours for those on a salary and those on wages

    Was the first “sexual intercourse” not until August 2011 or does wanking while on the phone form a sexual relationship?

    As for “Misusing gifts from partner organizations in a way that put those partner organizations in disrepute (the free hotel rooms from Sky City et al). Completely ruins any future relationships with those partners.”

    He offered to pay, it is their decision to refuse to receive payment (and that reflects on them). Only someone with cash on hand to throw on the counter can pay against their will to receive payment.

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  76. OneTrack (2,604 comments) says:

    Ross69 – “What are the rules around council staff having sex in the workplace?

    I doubt there are any. What are the rules at your workplace?”

    Immediate dismissal and marched out of the building I would expect.

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  77. lilman (891 comments) says:

    Paul= I think your wrong,the gutless lying shitbag will hang on untill mid week ,when the media will find some other women who will talk,then hes back to Campbell for a tearful sorry,but not good bye because one day he will be back,because Auckland needs him.

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  78. KevinH (1,131 comments) says:

    Chuang is no wall flower in this whole saga despite her protestations claiming naivety and that she was used(sic) manipulated by Wewege. Chuang had placed herself into both sides of the Mayoral contest and was cynically manipulating both Brown and Wewege for her own profit. She new what she was doing, had masterminded the whole affair and her motivations were plainly financial. The story broke as we are told only after she had been persuaded to swear on an affidavit after being pressured by Wewege and also as a result of receiving an unsubstantiated threatening text. Give us a break, that is a load of crap. Chuang was in the driving seat, the revelations would of involved negotiations, what those negotiations involved will eventually see the light of day.

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  79. meanybeany (21 comments) says:

    “John Palino. Palino has done nothing wrong, and I do not believe for a second he knew anything of this. However the actions of Wewege have created a perception that will leave doubts with some. An unfortunate victim, who might have been Mayor if the affair had been exposed before the election.”

    Oops

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  80. Scott1 (448 comments) says:

    Meany,
    What we need to find is the people who tend to be right about this AND right about issues like whether left leaning politicians are doing things that are dodgy.

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