The battle for NZ First Deputy

October 25th, 2013 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

NZ First announced:

At a meeting of the New Zealand First caucus this morning, was elected Deputy-Leader of the Parliamentary team.

Ms Martin entered Parliament at the 2011 General Election as second on the List behind Rt Hon Winston Peters.

Mr Peters says he is pleased with the caucus decision as Ms Martin has been an effective and energetic MP.

Tracey has been involved with New Zealand First since its inception in 1993.

Tracey is a good solid choice. I predicted her election at the beginning of the year. She is liked and respected by many MPs across the House, and has been a constructive select committee member.

However despite there being only one candidate when it came to the formal vote, it seems there has been intense lobbying over the last year for this position. I received the e-mail below from a NZ First source:

The NZ First deputy leadership is a major defeat for Winston.

Winston originally wanted Andrew Williams as his deputy but Williams was unpalatable to the rest of the caucus so he switched his support to Denis O’Rourke. However, Denis backed Tracey and Winston was forced to put Barbara Stewart up at the last minute.

Tracey’s backers:
Richard Prosser
Denis O’Rourke
Asenati Lole-Taylor

Andrew is furious and there are rumours inside NZ First that he might leave the party before the election. Even if he doesn’t, Tracey Martin’s backers in the organization will ensure he is given a very low ranking. 

Another factor will be MPs’ private reservations about Winston’s handling of the Brendan Horan scandal which saw them denied a say. 

If Stewart had been made Deputy, then Winston wanted Andrew Williams to become Whip, according to the source.

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23 Responses to “The battle for NZ First Deputy”

  1. iMP (2,385 comments) says:

    It’s irrelevant really. Can Tracey continue the Winston-cult party past the next election if they lose? I think not.

    Ask yourself, why won’t Winston stand in an electorate? Because he knows he faces failure. Extrapolate nationally. Bingo.

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  2. gravedodger (1,566 comments) says:

    “Williams for Whip” Whip it out, Hydrate the Rutaceae, wiggle it and want for nothing more.

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  3. hj (7,021 comments) says:

    John Carran, 2 April 1996

    “Vehement opposition to immigration, particularly from Asian countries, in New Zealand from an ill-informed and xenophobic rabble persists despite overwhelming evidence that immigration will improve our long term economic prospects.
    In 1988 The Institute of Policy Studies published detailed research by Jacques Poot, Ganesh Nana and Bryan Philpott on the effects of migration on the New Zealand economy. The research, which abstracted from the social and environmental impact of immigration, concluded that “…a significant migration inflow can be beneficial to the performance of the New Zealand economy and subsequent consumption and income levels.” The authors point out that this is in general agreement with Australian research on the economic consequences of immigration.


    Of course there is more to life than attaining economic excellence. The social and environmental impact of immigration also needs to be considered. But here the reasons given for restricting immigration range from pathetic to extremely dodgy. Most of the accusations are barely disguised racist piffle backed by tenuous rumours and cloudy anecdotes. Winston Peters’ stirring of the masses has exposed the ignorance and racial biases of a small and distasteful section of New Zealand society. These people yearn for a cloistered, inhibited, white (with a bit of brown at the edges) dominated utopia fondly envisaged by racists and xenophobes everywhere.

    http://www.gmi.co.nz/news/1021/opposition-to-immigration-why-let-the-arguments-get-in-the-way.aspx

    Savings Working Group
    January 2011

    “The big adverse gap in productivity between New Zealand and other countries opened up from the 1970s to the early 1990s. The policy choice that increased immigration – given the number of employers increasingly unable to pay First-World wages to the existing population and all the capital requirements that increasing populations involve – looks likely to have worked almost directly against the adjustment New Zealand needed to make and it might have been better off with a lower rate of net immigration. This adjustment would have involved a lower real interest rate (and cost of capital) and a lower real exchange rate, meaning a more favourable environment for raising the low level of productive capital per worker and labour productivity. The low level of capital per worker is a striking symptom of New Zealand’s economic challenge.

    http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/reviews-consultation/savingsworkinggroup/pdfs/swg-report-jan11.pdf
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/4622459/Government-policies-blamed-for-house-prices

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  4. Ashley Schaeffer (487 comments) says:

    I’m curious, what is your source hoping to achieve by airing NZ First dirty laundry? To be clear, I’m no fan of Winston First and it sure makes for juicy political gossip, but you wouldn’t want someone like that on your side would you?

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  5. hj (7,021 comments) says:

    Conservative party formed by a Capital Gains Magnate features Winston Churchill as it’s role model

    Roads are made, streets are made, services are improved, electric light turns night
    into day, water is brought from reservoirs a hundred miles off in the mountains —
    and all the while the landlord sits still. Every one of those improvements is effected
    by the labour and cost of other people and the taxpayers. To not one of those
    improvements does the land monopolist, as a land monopolist, contribute, and yet by
    every one of them the value of his land is enhanced. He renders no service to the
    community, he contributes nothing to the general welfare, he contributes nothing to
    the process from which his own enrichment is derived. (Winston Churchill, 1909,
    quoted by Barker 2003, p. 116).

    http://www.nuff.ox.ac.uk/politics/papers/…/McLean%20Land%20tax.pdf

    NZ Conservate Party is Act redux.

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  6. ex-golfer (161 comments) says:

    Surprised that Winston would switch support to O’Rouke.
    Obviously Winston has not been told about the ugly skeleton hanging in O’Roukes wardrobe.
    It would make Horan look like a saint.

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  7. Pete George (23,562 comments) says:

    I think it’s a good sign that NZF MPs are competing and having to fight for their positions. I’d imagined it to be more a case of what Winston says goes, but good if that’s not the case.

    NZF post Winston will still be very hard to keep going though. Tracey might be liked and constructive but unfortunately that doesn’t attract media coverage, and that’s the key thing to attract votes for smaller parties, as Winston knows and exploits.

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  8. hj (7,021 comments) says:

    There ought to be people with a bit more up top arguing in favour of NZ society and quality of life as it stood unfortunately that is the job of Greens but they became a Trojan Horse for the likes of Keith Locke who was proud of his efforts to establish a multi cultural NZ (with high house prices and a lower quality of life).

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  9. hj (7,021 comments) says:

    ex-golfer (76) Says:
    October 25th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    Surprised that Winston would switch support to O’Rouke.
    Obviously Winston has not been told about the ugly skeleton hanging in O’Roukes wardrobe.
    …………….
    like what?

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  10. big bruv (13,895 comments) says:

    Barbara Stewart?…really????

    She is only there to make the scones and the morning tea. Yes, a very nice lady but I shudder to think that she might have some influence on how a school tuck shop is run let alone the bloody country.

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  11. Manolo (13,774 comments) says:

    Winston is NZF, while the other MPs matter sweet fuck all. As simple as that.

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  12. PaulL (5,981 comments) says:

    Interesting if, for argument’s sake, NZF get back, and then Winston needs to stand aside. He’s getting on in age, so a lot of different things could cause that to happen. I presume Tracey would then be leader – so what would NZF become then?

    Arguably NZF would suddenly be a potential coalition partner for National, and presumably Tracey would move to cement her hold (with the backing of her mother – did DPF say she’s president?) by purging some of the trash from the party. That would be a very interesting position in terms of what it did to the political scene – if NZF became more than a personality cult focused on wrecking.

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  13. katydid (10 comments) says:

    “National RSA political movement New Zealand First has today elected its first deputy leader, whose role in the party will be to dissolve it completely in the event current leader Winston Peters ever dies.”
    http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/nz-first-elects-deputy-leader-to-dissolve-party-when-winston-peters-dies/

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  14. Nigel Kearney (1,013 comments) says:

    That far off gurgling kind of noise you can hear is an angel dying every time this blog gives WF any oxygen at all. It’s three in two days now which is surely excessive bordering on brutal.

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  15. Ryan Sproull (7,153 comments) says:

    Here’s a surefire hit.

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  16. hj (7,021 comments) says:

    Insidious Media bias

    The politicisation and problematisation of Asian migration was mirrored
    in the print media. After 1997, and certainly since 2000, opinion and feature writers
    adopted a very different approach, prompted in part by a major downturn in Asian
    immigration and a greater appreciation of at least the economic benefits of
    immigration but also as a result of a growing awareness amongst journalists that
    they had a role to play in explaining (positively) the complex issues of immigration.

    There was a realisation, from both managers and the journalists concerned, that these
    new migrants were an increasingly significant audience in their own right, underlined
    by the decline in print sales and revenue. There were some exceptions in terms of a
    small number of columnists in particular and of news reporting generally.

    Reporting Superdiversity. The
    Mass Media and Immigration
    in New Zealand
    Paul Spoonley & Andrew Butcher *

    *Public payroll

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  17. hj (7,021 comments) says:

    The Medias Role in intercepting and repackaging a world view for the common (not so bright) people.

    As with debates about biculturalism, the media play a critical role in determining the nature of public discussion and private/public understanding. Along with certain institutions, especially the education system, the media provide one of the most
    important, and possibly the most important, point of contact. The media, in all its diverse forms – print, radio, television, electronic – is a key institution in the creation and distribution of images and messages about our community(ies). Those significant others in our community, in the absence of in-depth personal contact or experience, will be described and explained to us via the media.

    DEFINING IDENTITY AND CREATING CITIZENS :
    THE MEDIA AND IMMIGRANTS IN NEW ZEALAND
    http://canada.metropolis.net/events/metropolis_presents/media_diversity/Spoonley%20%28Eng%29.pdf

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  18. hj (7,021 comments) says:

    katydid (7) Says:
    http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/nz-first-elects-deputy-leader-to-dissolve-party-when-winston-peters-dies/

    Oww! owww! I say!
    What-o Bertie!?
    (and all that)
    You’rr funnn-ay!!!

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  19. PaulL (5,981 comments) says:

    @hj: what on earth are you wittering on about? Could you write something instead of posting endless quotes? Do you have a point?

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  20. Nostradamus (3,326 comments) says:

    PaulL:

    @hj: what on earth are you wittering on about? Could you write something instead of posting endless quotes? Do you have a point?

    A Kiwiblog commenter – I can’t remember who – has proposed a drinking game.

    Each time hj copies and pastes from some irrelevant publication that has nothing to do with the thread topic, which is usually the case with hj’s comments, it’s a drink! *Hic!*

    And double-shots for copy-and-pastes from the Savings Working Group report! *Hic!*

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  21. Nostradamus (3,326 comments) says:

    Ah, found the details, it was Wat Dabney:

    wat dabney (3,021) Says:
    October 2nd, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    Yay! A thread tailor-made for hj and his carefully selected and rather dog-eared collection of links.

    By the way this thread doesn’t count for the hj drinking game, where you have to down a shot every time he introduces his tired anti-immigration views into a completely unrelated thread.

    wat dabney (3,021) Says:
    January 8th, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    Hooray!

    hj managed to smuggle his dog-eared one-sided old reference to immigration into another thread!

    Is it some sort of drinking game, hj?

    Decent hard-working immigrants are not to be allowed into this country to do jobs which worthless Kiwis decline, and it’s all because of immigrants!

    Twat.

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  22. Johnboy (16,554 comments) says:

    I’m upset that Arsenati didn’t get the nod! :)

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  23. ex-golfer (161 comments) says:

    Sorry hj, have been busy all day.
    Lets just say that Denis is a fan of some dark arts and would be welcome in the priesthood……he has similar tastes.

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