Transmission Gully will actually start construction in 2014

October 31st, 2013 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

After 65 years or so, it will actually start construction next year. This is hugely important as that will make it very very hard for the Greens to get it scrapped if they are part of a Government after the next election.

The Herald reports:

Construction on the alternative route to Wellington will begin in the second half of next year – just before the next general election – Prime Minister John Key announced today.

He expected the 27 km project to be ready for use by 2020. Transmission Gully forms part of the Wellington Northern Corridor which is estimated to cost $2.5 billion.

He said morning peak time traffic from Levin to Wellington is expected to improve by 40 minutes.

He also said the new corridor is projected to reduce the number of fatal and serious traffic crashes from 140 over five years after its completion to 100.

We should organise some parties for the day the construction starts!

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60 Responses to “Transmission Gully will actually start construction in 2014”

  1. gazzmaniac (2,317 comments) says:

    It’s only 70 years late, and is much dearer than if we’d got the Yanks to build it for free.

    I am looking forward to driving on it.

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  2. Daigotsu (450 comments) says:

    I remember exactly the same promise being made in 2002. Guess what.

    I’ll be impressed when they actually start building. But “we’re definitely going to do it later, and this time we mean it?” Just a lot of hot air.

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  3. RRM (9,446 comments) says:

    Seconded DPF’s party idea, I’ll bring the Umph out of hibernation and do a skid to christen the new road.

    Seconded what Daigotsu said too; I’ll believe it when I see it, no amount of announcements will do.

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  4. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    So, will it add to climate change or ameliorate it? :)

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  5. Grizz (500 comments) says:

    Should there be a change in government Labour and the greens will halt all construction. It will become the road to nowhere.

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  6. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    morning peak time traffic from Levin to Wellington is expected to improve by 40 minutes.

    There are people who commute from Levin to Wellington? Well, I never…

    There’s a simpler option. It’s called public transport.

    http://www.travelink.co.nz/nz/capitalconnection.html

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  7. campit (462 comments) says:

    Some quick points:

    After the Northern Corridor is complete, NZTA will hand the old coast road over to the local councils who will be liable for 50% of the maintenance costs. Are the councils aware how much this will cost them?

    Only 0.2% of the countries traffic will use this road, so it is a massive cross subsidy from motorists all over New Zealand.

    The PPP aspect is a rort. How can a payment of $120m to $130m every year for 25 years regardless of traffic volumes be of any benefit? The Government can borrow money at cheaper interest rates than the private sector. Current tendering processes involve private companies and generally speaking they go fairly well. What is the point of bringing in a private business to operate the highway, apart from corporate welfare for investment banks?

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  8. WineOh (549 comments) says:

    Gazz, it was either the road or the main block of Wellington Hospital if I recall – but that was only supposed to last for 20 years. It got until the new Wellington Hospital rebuild but still it seems like the road option would have been the better investment.

    $2.5B seems a helluva lot of money, and these major projects always blow out their budgets too. It seems quite essential for another route North of Welly though.

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  9. Judith (7,595 comments) says:

    Can someone please define ‘start’ ?

    Is a peg in the ground a ‘start’? If that is the definition, then my money might be on Key, however, if the definition is ground turned, machinery engaged and something visible of significance occurring, then I doubt it – too much opposition, too many opportunities for legal challenges, and too many motivations involved.

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  10. Pete George (22,805 comments) says:

    A good question – Where is Labour on Transmission Gully?

    UnitedFuture leader Peter Dunne is calling on the Labour Party to say where it stands on the building of the Transmission Gully Highway.

    “It’s not that many years ago that the then Labour MPS for Mana and Ōtaki joined me for a photo-op at the site of the start of the Highway, or the occasion when the then Labour Transport Minister helicoptered a group of local MPs over the site to view how the road could be constructed.

    “But Labour has been curiously quiet on Transmission Gully ever since – and seems to have left the running to the Greens, whose opposition is well known,” Mr Dunne says.

    Mr Dunne says polling over the years has shown consistently that the construction of the Transmission Gully Highway has the overwhelming support of Wellingtonians, with most people frustrated it has taken so long.

    “Labour now has to spell out its current position – without equivocation.

    “Do they still support Transmission Gully, or have they succumbed to the Greens in the interests of potential coalition politics?

    “If Labour is in a position to form a government late next year, will it let the construction programme proceed, or will it stop the work already underway?” Mr Dunne asks.

    Mr Dunne says that Wellington people have a right to know where Labour stands on the issue, and whether its silence means it is backtracking on its previous support.

    Wellington voters should know what Labour would do if they lead the Government from next year.

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  11. meanybeany (21 comments) says:

    How long will it before before we have a motorway all the way from Wellsford to Wellington? We also need a totally separate one from Auckland to Tauranga – which would encourage the BoP to take some of the population growth away from Auckland. . . and the City Rail Loop!

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  12. cha (3,779 comments) says:

    if we’d got the Yanks to build it for free.

    sigh – the myth continues.

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  13. WineOh (549 comments) says:

    Campit parroting a figure like 0.2% of the countries traffic is meaningless without more specific context. EG- what percentage do other main trunk routes in the country carry, especially relative to their population base. What are the congestion levels relative to other major centres, what impact do adverse conditions like weather, traffic accidents and high volume periods (eg- long weekends) have on the route.

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  14. isaac (10 comments) says:

    Just heard Julianne Genter Green Party on Radio talk back. This is very good publicity against the Dopeyness of the Green party. Against anything. Wellington people will welcome the building of Transmission Gully.

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  15. RRM (9,446 comments) says:

    Only 0.2% of the countries traffic will use this road, so it is a massive cross subsidy from motorists all over New Zealand.

    Fuck off, how many new motorways, motorway extensions, motorway intersections, motorway bridges and motorway tunnels has Transit built in Auckland in the past 10 years – for the benefit of Auckland motorists, “cross subsidised” by everyone else?

    Or is “cross subsidy” only a problem when the boot’s on the other foot?

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  16. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    Wellington voters should know what Labour would do if they lead the Government from next year.

    Voters throughout NZ should know what Peter Dunne would do if a female journalist gave him a compliment. :) But seriously, Dunne is the last person who should be lecturing…

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  17. Jimbo (40 comments) says:

    Really, cha. You’re sceptical that the Americans were going to build a four-lane highway with multiple interchanges, viaducts, and massive earthworks in under two years when they were focused on beating the Japs in the Pacific?

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  18. anonymouse (695 comments) says:

    For the last 20 years the Greens and others have held to the Mantra of “you cannot build your way out of congestion” claiming that if you build a new motorway then every man, woman and their dog will go out and buy another car and all start driving on it and it will gradually become totally congested, they called this “induced traffic”

    Now all of a sudden they are harping on about falling traffic counts saying that we should not build new motorways because no one will be around to use them,

    I’m sorry but what is it, will there be more or less traffic congestion on this new road!?!

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  19. RRM (9,446 comments) says:

    Wellington voters should know what Labour would do if they lead the Government from next year.

    Indeed! After all Peter Dunne needs a reasonable amount of time to formulate his policy (of agreeing with whichever main party he can form a government with.)

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  20. flipper (3,552 comments) says:

    A couple of points, or more

    Gazz….How many projects did the yank’s offer to build? Well. .. there was the tunnel to Wainuiomata, but that, and the others were all talk, were they not?
    The Marine Corps was never going to be in NZ long enough to do the job, and their engineers had priorities off shore, and north from NZ…… :-)

    So Ross69, still peddling bullshit?

    Of course you are….buit those 8000 construction jobs don’t matter do they?

    And as for your crap on CO2 etc etc etc….

    As Ian Pilmer says:
    ” Of course, you know about this evil carbon dioxide that we are trying to suppress – it’s that vital chemical compound that every plant requires to live and grow and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans and all animal life.

    “I know….it’s very disheartening to realize that all of the carbon emission savings you have accomplished while suffering the inconvenience and expense of driving Prius hybrids, buying fabric grocery bags, sitting up till midnight to finish your kids “The Green Revolution” science project, throwing out all of your non-green cleaning supplies, using only two squares of toilet paper, putting a brick in your toilet tank reservoir, selling your SUV and speedboat, vacationing at home instead of abroad, nearly getting hit every day on your bicycle, replacing all of your 50 cent light bulbs with $10.00 light bulbs…..well, all of those things you have done have all gone down the tubes in just four days.

    “The volcanic ash emitted into the Earth’s atmosphere in just four days – yes, FOUR DAYS – by that volcano in Iceland has totally erased every single effort you have made to reduce the evil beast, carbon. And there are around 200 active volcanoes on the planet spewing out this crud at any one time – EVERY DAY.

    “I don’t really want to rain on your parade too much, but I should mention that when the volcano Mt Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in 1991, it spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race had emitted in all its years on earth. ”

    So take your crazy views Ross69, and shove them up Cun*liffe….for his obscene comments on John Key’s mother.

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  21. dime (9,424 comments) says:

    “There’s a simpler option. It’s called public transport.”

    urgh who the fuck wants to take public transport

    i guess if the train was parked up all day and left when i wanted it to, it could take detours to brothels, liquor stores, maccas.. i had my own space with a bitching stereo that i could crank. id also need to be able to drive it.

    if it worked like that, the train would be ok.

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  22. Tom Barker (102 comments) says:

    “much dearer than if we’d got the Yanks to build it for free.”

    This is a resilient myth, the sort of rumour that erupts and spread during wartime, when official information is carefully controlled and seldom questioned. There is zero evidence of any kind that the US forces stationed in NZ during WW2 offered to build a road from Wellington to the Kapiti Coast – sorry.

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  23. Pita (366 comments) says:

    “Where is Labour on transmission gully?” That depends on how much Labour needs the Greens to form a government…

    It is often said, by the opposition, that National has no coalition partners, but Labour cannot exist as a governing party without the Greens…Full Stop, end of story!… (the remaining disparate group of malcontents only serve to make up the numbers of the necessary coalition that Labour/Greens will need to govern).

    So until it is known how much the Labour Party needs the Greens to form a government, they cannot formulate any definitive policy on anything.

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  24. Pete George (22,805 comments) says:

    After all Peter Dunne needs a reasonable amount of time to formulate his policy

    In this case at least that’s very unfair. Dunne has promoted Transmission Gully since last century, and has consistently pushed it with both Labour and National Governments. His policy on it has been and is clear. So is National’s now.

    So it’s up to Labour to say if they will roll over for the Greens or if they will maintain their past support for the project.

    Pita – Labour could make Transmission Gully progress a requirement of any coalition agreement. Otherwise Cunliffe will be seen as trying to play both sides, again.

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  25. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    urgh who the fuck wants to take public transport

    You’d prefer to be stuck in congested traffic? Also, how many people have died or been seriously injured catching the train from Levin to Wellington?

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  26. rangitoto (193 comments) says:

    He’s already stuck in congested traffic. That’s why the the new road.
    Not sure about WLG to Levin but passengers have been killed WLG to AKL. Anyway reducing the numbers killed is one of the benefits of the new road. I suppose you not being a hypocrite wont be traveling by bus or car on the new road when it is completed right?

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  27. mandk (819 comments) says:

    @Ross69
    What if you don’t want to leave Levin at 6.53am and return from Wellington at 5.15pm?
    And what if your final destination at either end is not at the railway station?
    That’s why people commute by road.

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  28. dime (9,424 comments) says:

    “sigh – the myth continues.”

    anyone who sighs online is a cocksmoker.

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  29. dime (9,424 comments) says:

    “You’d prefer to be stuck in congested traffic? Also, how many people have died or been seriously injured catching the train from Levin to Wellington?”

    Yep, ill take the traffic, the freedom and the risk.

    What is it with lefties wanting to control everything? oh yeah, thats right..

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  30. cha (3,779 comments) says:

    Wanna sword fight dime?

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  31. gazzmaniac (2,317 comments) says:

    ross69 and campit have referred to the numbers of people who commute to Wellington from Levin.
    What they have failed to think about is that most of the benefit won’t be to people who want to get from one end to the other. It will be to the people who travel between the towns that are part way along it. For example from Otaki to Paraparaumu each day. Instead of their commute taking 30 to 40 minutes each way it will take 15 to 20.

    I live on the Gold Coast and I am reasonably close to the M1. I think nothing of travelling to Helensvale or to Robina if I need something I can’t get locally at Nerang. Helensvale is 15 km up the road – a bit closer than Otaki is to Paraparaumu, but not much. When I am at Mum and Dad’s at Otaki, a trip to Paraparaumu is a lot more of an undertaking, mainly because the road is so shit that a trip that should take 20 minutes on a nice free flowing highway instead takes upwards from half an hour, passing through one major town, two sets of lights and two 80 km/h black spots on a road that was designed to cope with a quarter of the traffic that travels on it today. And that’s on a good day.

    I’ve previously mentioned about when I come to visit my parents. The trip from Otaki to Wellington Airport is about 70 km and takes about 1:15 at 4am (longer if it’s daylight). The trip from Worongary to Brisbane Airport is about 90 km and takes 55 minutes.

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  32. Zapper (926 comments) says:

    I was arguing with a leftie on Facebook a while back over plastic bags vs Green bags (I was arguing that Green bags are no better when it comes to the environment and also lead to potential food poisoning when not cleaned properly). He told me to get my plastic bags and “have some more oil”. He posted this from Kaikoura where he’d driven from Christchurch to spend the weekend. I didn’t own a car at that time, and even though I now do, I still take the train to work every day. He votes Green.

    dime, don’t argue too hard – they’re the biggest hypocrites on earth.

    Edit: I should note public transport is convenient for me. I asked him how he gets around and in particular, how he gets to work. He refused to answer.

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  33. tvb (4,202 comments) says:

    Now let the Greens say stop it which they can do if they insist on it with their Labour partners.

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  34. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    Labour have said that they will “scrap” the expressway running through Kapiti. I think that means they intend to dig up the surface works that will have been constructed, demolish the flyovers and bridges, and force traffic back on to the dangerous road that runs past people’s letterboxes.

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  35. srylands (386 comments) says:

    “You’d prefer to be stuck in congested traffic? Also, how many people have died or been seriously injured catching the train from Levin to Wellington?”

    I live on the Kapiti Coast. I have also used public transport for many years, including trains. Since moving to the Coast I have used my car to commute to Wellington. Luckily, I can avoid the worst of the peak congestion.

    Ross, I like having the train as a backup, but I wouldn’t use it regularly over driving my car even if it was FREE. It is too inefficient. I can drive to work in 40 minutes. The train (including transfers to the stations at both ends) takes 70 minutes.

    IF the train went every 10 minutes, and IF there was a station within walking distance of my house, and it travelled at 250 km/h, and it was a high standard, then I would use it. But that aint happening.

    The current road is a joke. The reason the Greens oppose it is because they hate cars, and they hate personal freedom. End of story.

    The justification that traffic volumes are “falling” is bullshit – maybe they have fallen in the last couple of years – I haven’t looked at the data. But are they going to fall over the next 100 years? (Only if the Greens send us back to an agrarian society, which is what they want.)

    A story: In the 1920s, a few insightful people proposed building the Sydney Harbour Bridge. They proposed that it be 10 lanes wide with 2 rail tracks and walking paths. They were ridiculed because “traffic volumes” were tiny. There was a big push for a 4 lane bridge. But the insightful guys got their way. For the first 20 years the bridge operated below capacity. But that changed. (Contrast that with the experience of the Auckland Harbour Bridge.)

    In 20 years from now my prediction is that our children will thank the current government for building Transmission Gully. It will NOT be a white elephant. It will be a treasured asset. The Greens will be looked on by historians with bemusement or ridicule.

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  36. 103PapPap (125 comments) says:

    When they extended the electric line to Waikanae a huge problem occurred – the car park at Waikanae station was overfill because all the commuters north of Waikanae drove to the station and took the train to Wellington. This also caused all the people in the stations down the line to complain because the seats were all taken. Notwithstanding this increase in train users, the roads are still saturated, and Transmission Gully is definitely needed.

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  37. thedavincimode (6,531 comments) says:

    sigh – the myth continues.

    Just like that other myth about free sex.

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  38. duggledog (1,353 comments) says:

    Isaac at 10.44:

    Yes that was a very good interview Plunket did with Julie Anne Genter on Radio Live.

    Great for National, bad for the Greens and consequently very bad for Labour, for the Greens are their potential, in fact only bedfellows who can get them over the line and who keep saying no to everything. For Labour, the Greens are like that person in class that gets everyone detention because of their Principles.

    Plunket kept asking Genter ‘will you halt work on the project’ and of course she kept on avoiding the question.

    So that means probably yes. They will at least try, Labour will get pulled apart and meanwhile the country’s progress will stall and foreign lenders might have an issue with that. Up go the interest rates.

    So you have Genter implying this, you have Metiria Turei saying ‘well maybe some Aucklanders will have to sell their houses and take a loss’ in the interests of ‘fairness and equality’ when they fuck with the RB etc.

    It’s all just gravy for National. If they can’t govern alone after Nov 2014 then they don’t deserve to because Labour = Greens and Greens = Labour.

    Kiwis can be a bit disengaged with politics but I think they will come out in droves for National. So, Cullen’s Sidekick, I will see your prophecy of a Lab-Green coalition, and raise it to a National governing alone!

    I am prepared to eat my hat over this.

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  39. RRM (9,446 comments) says:

    srylands:

    IF the train went every 10 minutes, and IF there was a station within walking distance of my house, and it travelled at 250 km/h, and it was a high standard, then I would use it. But that aint happening.

    Gold plated taps in the bathrooms, or would chrome be ok?

    I commute to Wellington on the Wairarapa train every day. It actually takes about 5-10 minutes longer than driving, but the drive is hard work, and the time on the train is pleasant and it’s time I can use for ME.

    I’d far rather read the paper or browse the internet or get an extra hour’s sleep on the train, than drive the Rimutaka hill and then stop-start all the way down the Hutt Road every day. (I say this as someone who owns a classic car and loves driving cars generally…)

    My house is 5 minutes’ walk from the local station. My employer is 10 minutes’ walk from the Wellington station.

    I start and finish work at about the same time every day, so I don’t need the trains to run every ten minutes.

    Different people have different expectations, which is why we are so lucky here in Wellington to have both systems.

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  40. RRM (9,446 comments) says:

    Yep, ill take the traffic, the freedom and the risk.

    :lol: LOL “the freedom”

    I have lived in Auckland and enjoyed the “freedom” of sitting in the second or third lane of a motorway that is crawling at 5km/h and is only getting worse.

    I’m glad you’re enjoying it.

    I would not go back to that unless I really had no alternative.

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  41. srylands (386 comments) says:

    “Different people have different expectations, which is why we are so lucky here in Wellington to have both systems.”

    Yes I agree – and the reason I went to Kapiti is because the train is a backup. I am simply saying that for me now, it would not be an option even if it was free because it would cost me 5 hours per week in time.

    I support investment in all transport modes. My point is that the Greens cloak their views with a whol bunch of fake rationales. Their one and only agenda is that they hate cars and they hate personal freedom.

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  42. Than (425 comments) says:

    So, will it add to climate change or ameliorate it?

    It will ameliorate it. Forty minutes less travel time is forty minutes less time with the engine running and producing emissions, multiplied by however many thousand cars travel into Wellington each day.

    And buses can also use this route, so it’s good for public transport as well.

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  43. Judith (7,595 comments) says:

    As far as I am concerned, the congestion is a stupid reason. If people are stupid enough to live in Kapiti and work in Wellington, then that is a lifestyle choice and they must accept the consequences of that decision.
    I do not think I should have to fund it

    HOWEVER – despite the ecological damage and the cost, I am in favour of the project for one very simple reason.

    Wellington is highly vulnerable to earthquake. The Wellington airport is extremely vulnerable to damage in the event of an earthquake and tsunami. As things stand basically the entire population of Wellington would be reliant on helcopter assistance in the event of a much predicted ‘big one’. The people of Wellington and Lower Hutt are sitting ducks. It does not make sense to retain the status quo and not provide an alternative route out of the area (and of course in an emergency, a route into the area).

    Who decided to put three cities in such a geographically unstable and unfriendly area?

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  44. dime (9,424 comments) says:

    “I have lived in Auckland and enjoyed the “freedom” of sitting in the second or third lane of a motorway that is crawling at 5km/h and is only getting worse.

    I’m glad you’re enjoying it.

    I would not go back to that unless I really had no alternative.”

    I dont get traffic.

    I leave the Dime estate around 810. I get a bit in Albany cause of schools.

    Leave work at 425, home by 445. haven’t hit traffic once.

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  45. srylands (386 comments) says:

    “Kiwis can be a bit disengaged with politics but I think they will come out in droves for National. So, Cullen’s Sidekick, I will see your prophecy of a Lab-Green coalition, and raise it to a National governing alone!

    I am prepared to eat my hat over this.”

    I’m not. There are a frightenly large number of plain stupid people who form their opinions by listening to John Campbell. I’m preparing the Melbourne contingency exit.

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  46. gravedodger (1,514 comments) says:

    @RRM 1 14.

    You bludging bastard.

    While you are sitting in the Train reading your Dimonion Paste, do you spare a second thought for the poor bugger in struggle street beiing force by the manipulative userous pricks in the WRC, using their legislated power, to force him to subsidize your train journies that would otherwise be so uneconomic for both the providers and the consumers as to cease the whole fucking charade.

    Many rate payers to WRC cannot, do not and will not ever use your idyllic little daily trips yet are forced to “assist you” in your bludging. That makes you one of the worst “beneficiaries, ENTITLED.
    Nauseous!!!

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  47. RRM (9,446 comments) says:

    Release your anger, young Gravedodger.

    If they stop the trains, I guess I’ll just have to go back to driving. :-P

    I imagine that when that happens, the roads will be reminiscent of how they were during that week in August.

    Do you remember that?

    When the storm washed out the Hutt line near Horokiwi… so there were no trains, so EVERYONE was on the road… and your “the man in the street” was sitting in gridlock all the way from the Moonshine bridge. Instead of free flowing all the way to the Melling bridge before hitting the gridlock, as is more normally the case.

    But hey, if you’d prefer that, you go right on fighting for your cause..

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  48. RRM (9,446 comments) says:

    If people are stupid enough compelled by the property market to live in Kapiti and work in Wellington, then that is a lifestyle choice and they must accept the consequences of that decision.

    Fixed that for you Jude. have another Chardonnay ;-)

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  49. duggledog (1,353 comments) says:

    Srylands:

    ‘There are a frightenly large number of plain stupid people who form their opinions by listening to John Campbell’

    I hear you. I really do. However the dumb people do not vote.

    People say all sorts of things but in the privacy of the polling booth, I reckon for the majority of kiwi voters, the shrieking of Russell, Metiria, Cunliffe, Lucy Lawless and all the rest of them are going to fade away. To be replaced by the image of one guy – a guy who was handed a shit sandwich and really did turn it into a feast, with aplomb, a cheeky smile and hey – he’s a self made family man. Who got invited to hang with the Queen.

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  50. Judith (7,595 comments) says:

    RRM (8,177) Says:
    October 31st, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Either way it’s a choice RRM, and why should I pay for your lifestyle or property investment choices? A wise person would factor the travel time into their productivity assessment before making such an investment.

    You can’t expect the rest of the country to subsidise your property investments.

    And I don’t drink chardonnay, however, good to see you enforcing the culture – can’t help yourselves, can you?

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  51. Judith (7,595 comments) says:

    @ gravedodger (1,297) Says:
    October 31st, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    Totally agree.

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  52. The Scorned (719 comments) says:

    Personally i have found driving in Auckland way improved in the last 5 years….and once the few remaining bottlenecks are sorted and The western springs link completed they may have a dearth of cars on the road to make it all seem worthwhile….;-)

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  53. RRM (9,446 comments) says:

    You can’t expect the rest of the country to subsidise your property investments.

    I don’t expect anything! Like I said if the trains weren’t here I’d drive. It would take me the same amount of time and cost about the same.

    Meanwhile, MY GWRC rates subsidise Gravedodger’s Wellington, Porirua and Hutt water supplies that I don’t use. And probably a fire hydrant in Island Bay too.

    Isn’t it fun working out how much everybody else owes you? :-)

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  54. bhudson (4,734 comments) says:

    @RRM,

    That is absolute nonsense. People are not compelled by the property market to live on the Kapiti Coast. If it was about money they could live in Porirua, Tawa, Newlands,…

    Plenty of options if it’s about money

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  55. Steve (North Shore) (4,499 comments) says:

    Dime @ 1.54

    I dont get traffic.

    I leave the Dime estate around 810. I get a bit in Albany cause of schools.

    Leave work at 425, home by 445. haven’t hit traffic once.

    I’m sure the schoolgirls in Albany will be talking now like “who is this dime guy?”

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  56. Lucia Maria (2,207 comments) says:

    Roll on Transmission Gully.

    We need a divided highway up here. There’s too much traffic for what is currently a backwater country road. Just a couple of Sundays ago, our family could have been involved in a head on smash north of Paekakariki because some idiot traveling South took the bend too fast and was pretty much so much over the centre line that if he hadn’t corrected in time, we would have been yet another statistic for that road.

    Just recently we had a smash not far from there (near Fisherman’s Table) where a woman took out a 32 year old man in a head-on. I drove over the massive blood stain on the road several hours later. I still can’t figure out how anyone could lose control in that part of the road with such a gentle bend.

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  57. thedavincimode (6,531 comments) says:

    And I don’t drink chardonnay

    Well, you better hurry up and find something you like to drink Judith. When the B*** decision comes out and the Big Judith torpedoes the compo claim, you’re going to need a drink. Or fifty.

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  58. thor42 (915 comments) says:

    Great! This road is *desperately* needed.

    The Greens moan about it, but they are “all trains” and nothing else.
    Try getting the Main Trunk line up and running again after a major quake in Wellington. You’d be lucky to do it in less than 7 or 8 months.
    Transmission Gully, on the other hand, could be patched up and made “usable” again in about a month – maybe two. ( By “usable”, I mean a gravel road through the most damaged parts, able to be used but at low speed ).

    The Greens hate the road, but (IMO) Labour would not *dare* to delay it.

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  59. gravedodger (1,514 comments) says:

    @ RRM 5 12, I live in Rural ChCH City on a one lane shingle (metal) road 900 meters from the old Akaroa borough.
    I deal to my rubbish, my recycling, provide my own water, deal with my sewerage on site and for all that I pay around 4000k.

    Our regional council is a bunch of commissioners who get stuff done and that leaves troughing socialist hasbeens such as ex speaker of the parliament, Sir Kerry Burke, tilting at the few windmills that EQ 2010 and the over 10 000 aftershocks didn’t destroy.

    But you are welcome to your idyllic train rides as I am no longer subsidising them, however an army of socialists aplenty are continually dreaming up ways to rob those who look after themselves to gift largesse to the feckless entitled useless.

    If the socialist communist axis tell Wellington they will can Transmission gully they will be destroyed in another region of the country.

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  60. RRM (9,446 comments) says:

    Cantabrian, that explains the great big chip on your shoulder. Akaroa’s beautiful, it’s hard to imagine a miserable bastard like yourself in that place though.

    It would be foolish for a Labour govt to dump transmission gully now.. but then, most of them are fools….

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