2013 Salaries Determination for MPs

November 22nd, 2013 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

The Remuneration Authority has released its 2013 determination for MPs salaries. These are backdated to 1 July. The new salary levels for each type of MP are:

  • PM $428,500
  • Deputy PM $303,900
  • Cabinet Ministers (18) $268,500
  • Speaker $268,500
  • Leader of the Opposition $268,500
  • Ministers outside Cabinet (7) $226,300
  • Government Senior Whip $200,770
  • Labour Deputy Leader $192,560
  • Labour Senior Whip $191,820
  • Deputy Speaker $189,400
  • Green Party Leader $182,170
  • NZ First Party Leader $173,140
  • Green Whip $172,520
  • Maori Party Leader $166,060
  • NZ First Whip $164,780
  • Assistant Speakers (2) $162,200
  • ACT Party Leader $162,200
  • UnitedFuture Party Leader $162,200
  • Mana Party Leader $162,200
  • Junior Whips (3) $162,200
  • Select Committee Chairs (13) $162,200
  • Select Cmte Deputy Chairs (13) $152,400
  • Ordinary MPs (49) $147,800

The Remuneration Authority said that the average annual increase in terms of total remuneration is just under 2%.

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39 Responses to “2013 Salaries Determination for MPs”

  1. Longknives (4,764 comments) says:

    Depressing reading if you actually ‘work’ for a living…

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  2. martinh (1,257 comments) says:

    double dipper from Dipton Bill English and his wife will be licking their lips at that.
    Cunliffe should be able to buy quite a nice house in New Lynn on that now his wife has surely finished breast feeding

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  3. chris (647 comments) says:

    Why are MPs salary increases always backdated? And I’m all for that proposal to set them for the Parliament term just before an election.

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  4. martinh (1,257 comments) says:

    Why are MPs salary increases always backdated? And I’m all for that proposal to set them for the Parliament term just before an election.

    Backdating as the hubris wankers believe they have rights over the taxpayer trough

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  5. Mobile Michael (452 comments) says:

    For some MPs this too little, they could earn several times more in the Private Sector. Then again, too many MPs are on the best salary of their lives.

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  6. martinh (1,257 comments) says:

    Mobile mechanic Name one who could earn more?????????

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  7. swan (665 comments) says:

    I don’t understand why Patry leaders or whips should be recognized. In that capacity they are working for their party. If their party wants to top up their salary, that is up to them. There should be pay differences for ministers, and select committee chairs/dep chairs otherwise they are just MPs.

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  8. In Vino Veritas (139 comments) says:

    What is laughable about this is that people like Norman, Turei, Hughes, Delahunty, Roche et al from the Greens, could never command this sort of salary outside of Parliament! I guess the same could be said of Roberston, Ardern, Mallard, Goff, Hipkins, Mahuta, Beaumont and a good few more.
    No wonder Goff and Mallard won’t bow out voluntarily…

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  9. dime (9,980 comments) says:

    “Green Party Leader $182,170″

    Do they both get that? Or split the extra?

    Deputy PM 300 stacks. Russel Norman is on track to earn 300 stacks!

    “ACT Party Leader $162,200
    UnitedFuture Party Leader $162,200
    Mana Party Leader $162,200″

    I know its only 15k more that a regular shitty backbencher. But dam it sucks.

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  10. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Mallard may have to go as Little and Kelly want safe seats that can be won by losers.

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  11. martinh (1,257 comments) says:

    In Vino
    And Gerry Brownlee

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  12. Pita (373 comments) says:

    In the true spirit of socialist egalitarianism I’m surprised the Green MP’s don’t all regard themselves as leaders of their party.

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  13. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    It’s interesting that John Key lied (again!) by saying he would’ve voted for no pay rise. In fact, he told the Remuneration Authority that pay should be increased at the rate of inflation.

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  14. dime (9,980 comments) says:

    “John Key lied”

    keep pushing that vote winner ross :)

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  15. KiwiGreg (3,255 comments) says:

    so quite a lot less for the lot of them then the mid- to upper- echelons of Auckland council “earn”

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  16. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    What a farce that ACT, Mana and especially UF get increased salaries and funding.

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  17. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    keep pushing that vote winner ross

    Do you think it’s appropriate for our illustrious PM to ask the Authority for a pay rise, all the while telling the rest of us that he would vote for no pay rise?

    Or has Key told so many lies that another one is neither here not there?

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  18. chris (647 comments) says:

    “Mr Key had told the authority restraint and leadership in the public sector were needed. In a letter, he said an increase of 1.4 per cent would be appropriate, in line with the consumers’ price index.” From http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11160982

    He didn’t ask for a pay rise. He suggested it not be so big. Although to be fair to your argument, he could have suggested a 0% increase.

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  19. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    “Last month Key said he preferred no increase. ‘If it was my vote, it would be no pay increases, but I don’t get that vote.’

    However, last night his office released his submission on the process, which showed he lobbied for pay increases at around the rate of inflation, making no mention of his preference for no increase.”

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9428832/Politicians-pay-rises-and-more-on-way

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  20. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    He didn’t ask for a pay rise.

    He lobbied for a pay rise at the rate of inflation. I guess in your world that is the same as no pay rise.

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  21. martinh (1,257 comments) says:

    ross69
    Key says he gives his salary to charity. However it is actually only a proportion. The proportion of which he does not disclose.
    Hes a politican and worships money, just like 99% of all people i know who have grown up poor. so im not surprised at all about what you bring up

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  22. chris (647 comments) says:

    He lobbied for a pay rise at the rate of inflation.

    Well that’s pretty crap then. If he was going to lobby (which he really shouldn’t have), he should have done it for 0%. I still think that it should be set for the next Parliamentary term just before each election. Then we don’t have this crap all the time. Doesn’t matter which party is currently the government; it always makes them look bad.

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  23. Yogibear (366 comments) says:

    This is so wrong. The determination refers to the leader of the Opposition when it should more correctly use David Cunliffe’s preferred title of “next Prime Minister”

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  24. chris (647 comments) says:

    This is so wrong. The determination refers to the leader of the Opposition when it should more correctly use David Cunliffe’s preferred title of “next Prime Minister”

    Maybe he should get paid more in recognition of his future position?

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  25. Random Punter (72 comments) says:

    Hardly seems right that the Leader of the Opposition, who has no executive responsibilities, should receive the same as Cabinet ministers.

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  26. Morgy (172 comments) says:

    Martinh, “Mobile mechanic Name one who could earn more?????????”

    To name a few: Findlayson, Collins, Ryall, English, Key, Joyce, Brownlee, Adams, Tolley….I am sure there are more.

    To be honest, I get sick of this beat up every year. I would prefer bigger salaries to attract better people however too many variables in that hope so I would support a fixed salary for the three year term.

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  27. Rightandleft (663 comments) says:

    What’s really annoying is that they’ve held the rest of the public service to increases of 1.1% per annum over the next 3 years, with no back-dating of course, and then take an above the inflation rate increase for themselves.

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  28. Alan (1,087 comments) says:

    Are they really that well paid ? I certainly wouldn’t do it for that money.

    I’m in a fairly senior, but non management IT role and I’m pulling somewhere between “minister out cabinet” and “cabinet minister”. I’d imagine that anyone in these positions could be making tons more in the private sector, obviously less so on the Labour / Green side.

    I’m fairly sure Simon Bridges at least trebled his pay packet when he quit.

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  29. Alan (1,087 comments) says:

    A good lawyer or doctor is pulling $400k easy enough as an example.

    On the Labour side Cunliffe could make more in the private sector, I’m sure Arden could command a fairly high hourly rate.

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  30. sparky (235 comments) says:

    I don’t think the Prime Ministers salary is that great. If you take into account the responsibility, the travel and hourly rate. That is a very modest Salary. » PM $428,500

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  31. Alan (1,087 comments) says:

    Sparky, the NZ PM earns almost the same as the US president

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  32. chris (647 comments) says:

    I’m sure Arden could command a fairly high hourly rate.

    Doing what, exactly? She’s only ever worked in the public service or as an MP.

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  33. sparky (235 comments) says:

    #Allan, I am not talking about or comparing the salary of the President of America. I am talking about our PM John Key, and I DON’T think the salary he is receiving is over the top at all. Amen.

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  34. Mobile Michael (452 comments) says:

    Thanks Morgy. On the other side Cunliffe, Parker, O’Connor, and Peters could earn more. I’m sure Turei is a lawyeras well, if she’d gone into private practice rather than politics she would match her salary at least. Banks has a bunch of successful businesses. And those are the ones that spring to mind on the train journey home.

    I wouldn’t have put Brownlee on that list – I thought prior to Parliament he was a teacher.

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  35. Alan (1,087 comments) says:

    “Doing what, exactly? She’s only ever worked in the public service or as an MP.”

    Best I don’t answer that :-)

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  36. OneTrack (3,114 comments) says:

    Time the Remuneration Authority was closed down. It is just a joke in the current business environment for them to be handing out pay rises like candy. Some of the MPs are worth it maybe, but most of them – no way. I thought they were there in the service of the country anyway, so what we pay them shouldn’t matter too much. And Labour and the Greens should be refusing any salary above 3 times the Living Wage (or is that just for “other people” tm ).

    But, no, the troughers get a pay rise, well above the inflation rate. And its backdated just to rub salt into the wound (WTF). The Authority don’t even seem embarrassed about it. I guess they are the “elite”, so we must not question them. And what happens now – oh the Remuneration Authority now needs a pay rise to ensure they maintain relativity with MPs. Then it will be time for the judges to have a go, and the whole ratchets up again and repeats. Kerching.

    It’s just a(nother) gravy train. And the left wonder why we should have smaller governments.

    Lastly, if Key knew what he was doing, he would have clearly said no raise in his submission. What was he thinking? Now there is another thing that the LSM will bash him with. Doh.

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  37. MH (762 comments) says:

    The combined ministerial and parliamentary salary of the British Prime Minister is £142,500 at April 2013. This figure includes the parliamentary salary of £66,396.

    The combined ministerial and parliamentary salary of a UK Cabinet minister is £134,565 at April 2013. This figure includes the parliamentary salary of £66,396.

    Well they do have a bigger Armed Forces than us.

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  38. Johnboy (16,651 comments) says:

    I can’t believe that Party Leaders from the ethnic mob don’t get something extra like the carriers FAF…. (fuel adjustment factor)

    May I suggest COHA…..Colonial Oppressors Huge Apology! :)

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  39. Caroline Castle (16 comments) says:

    I hear MPs secretaries haven’t had a raise for years. MPs should give their raise to their secretaries.

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