Cunliffe refusing Farming Show

November 9th, 2013 at 4:00 pm by David Farrar

writes:

There’s a certain irony in the position I find myself in with Labour leader .

You see, David C has red-carded me.

Meaning, for the first time since 2000, when then Prime Minister Helen Clark agreed to a weekly slot, I will not be interviewing the Labour leader on the Farming Show.

Rightly or wrongly, Cunliffe says he won’t get a fair hearing, that we will make fun of him. Heck, we make fun of everyone, including ourselves.

MPs of course have the right to choose what shows they go on. but it is unusual for an opposition leader to boycott a show. Normally in in opposition you take every opportunity you can for free media.

When I think of Labour, I think of politicians such as Damien O’Connor, David Shearer, Grant Robertson, Annette King and Phil Goff. 

They’re eminently sensible people and, at a push, I could live with them running the country

But then I see remits such as the one proposed by the party’s ruling New Zealand Council at the annual conference and I shake my head. 

That remit would require the list-ranking committee to ensure its list fairly represents sexual orientations as well as tangata whenua, gender, ethnic groups, people with disabilities, age and youth.

What a load of politically correct bollocks.

So here’s my message for PC David C, which unfortunately I can’t pass on personally. 

If you really want to be the next prime minister, get your teeth into some issues that affect middle and low-income NZ – jobs, education, health, and the minimum wage are traditional Labour strongholds.

Attack National where you have an inherent political advantage and where it might have dropped the ball.

And his replacement for David Cunliffe?

On second thoughts, I might save that message for my new Farming Show correspondent, Dr Russel Norman.

Good on the Greens, for taking up the challenge.

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32 Responses to “Cunliffe refusing Farming Show”

  1. Redbaiter (6,463 comments) says:

    Good on Cunliffe for taking a stand.

    It is his choice and I would not deny him that choice.

    What irks me a lot more is the National Party’s constant refusal to identify sectors of the media as Marxist propagandists when that is so clearly what they are.

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  2. gazzmaniac (2,266 comments) says:

    JK did very well on Campbell Live, and that show is about as socialist as you can get.

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  3. Keeping Stock (9,786 comments) says:

    I blogged about this yesterday. Sure, it is Cunliffe’s choice as RB notes. But Labour is not going to get back into government unless it wins back some of the support lost in 2008 and 2011; and not just support lost to the Greens.

    Preaching to the converted won’t cut it. So Cunliffe is going to have to take every opportunity to take Labour’s message to a wider audience. The Farming Show doesn’t just go to a rural audience. It is also broadcast on RadioSport’s provincial stations; places like Palmerston North, Wanganui and New Plymouth, or heartland New Zealand. I regularly listen to it, because I cannot abide Jackson and Tamihere.

    This is a dumb decision by Cunliffe, but who am I to criticise it? :D

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  4. David Garrett (5,119 comments) says:

    Well, Russel won’t have much to say on farming beyond “shoot all the cows”, so that won’t be hugely entertaining…or very lengthy…how are they going to fill all the ensuing dead air?

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  5. Steve (North Shore) (4,313 comments) says:

    Shoot all the Russel/ls

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  6. GPids (13 comments) says:

    Cap cow numbers, bring agriculture into the ETS and 80 per cent of farms must go organic, thats the greens farming policy in a nutshell. It will be entertaining radio, if nothing else! Stupid decision from Cunliffe.

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  7. kowtow (6,684 comments) says:

    “…….farms must go organic……”

    …….they’ll collectivise them first though,massive organic communes,powered by human poo from all the bourgeois ,climate deniers and other enemies of Gaia who’ll be sent there for re education…..

    don’t believe me?

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  8. David Garrett (5,119 comments) says:

    GPids: Unless it has recently changed, “cap cow numbers” is not Green policy…when I last bothered to look, their “policy” was CUT cow numbers by 2/3…(And the number of people, but that was their undeclared genocide policy rather than agriculture)

    Can someone tell me in a sentence or three what the Greens plan to do about weeds in pasture if the farms “go organic”? Mobs of yokels with grubbing hoes? It cant involve those nifty hot water guns, because they run on gas….

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  9. David in Chch (503 comments) says:

    First of all, this simply reinforces the growing perception of a lot of people – that the Greens are effectively the opposition. Labour want to be all things to all people, and so are nothing to anyone.

    Secondly, for the hoeing of weeds in the fields, maybe the Greens will take all of us professionals from the cities and send us to re-education camps. But this time, the people running the show would be called the Green Brigades.

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  10. Ross12 (926 comments) says:

    DG

    Whale Oil had a really interesting video up a few days ago about the Ames test and carcinogens in foods

    http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2013/11/ames-test-carcinogens-natural-foods/#disqus_thread

    It would get some of the organic fans scatching their heads.

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  11. David Garrett (5,119 comments) says:

    kowtow: I believe you mate…the Greens are Very Very scary…they have significant support, particularly among the young and the educated i.e those who vote the most…and it is increasing…

    Just this week I had to point out to my very sharp 12 year what information she got off the net on “mining” was fact (X000 kilos of gold and silver produced in New Zealand; the contribution to the economy; Waihi the biggest inland city in 1885 or something) and what was Green propaganda….degradation of the environment and heavy metal pollution as inevitable by-products rather than dangers that can happen if the process is not properly controlled….

    If they ever get a dominant position in the government of NZ, God help us…

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  12. Pete George (21,789 comments) says:

    Labour are going to get the votes of the 800,000 people who didn’t vote last time because they weren’t interested. So Cunliffe doesn’t need to go forums that people listen to.

    Cunliffe will be targeting radio stations that no one wants to listen to, and going to meetings that no one wants to go to, to address the demographic that doesn’t want to vote.

    That’s innovative.

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  13. kowtow (6,684 comments) says:

    “If they ever get a dominant position in the government of NZ, God help us…”

    The scary thing is local councils are doing the “Green” thing while pretending not to be Greens.

    Dunedin City Council against fracking and off shore drilling,yesterday or the day before I heard something similar from the Chch council against off shore drilling.

    Funny thing about decaying Dunedin is they constantly proclaim its heritage which is of course built on the gold mining glory days.

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  14. homepaddock (429 comments) says:

    A politician who can’t stand the very gentle heat of the Farming Show isn’t going to cope with the much hotter temperature in other media and parliament.

    He wouldn’t have been made fun of unfairly on the show but he will be now.

    Several other MPs, including one from Labour, willing to front Jamie regularly but Cunliffe isn’t.

    But worse than this – one of his challenges was to assert himself as leader of the opposition, a position Norman had assumed while David Shearer led Labour.

    Instead, he’s handed his rival a free pass to a slot that should have been his own on the Farming Show.

    In doing so he’s shown himself a little too concerned with his own image and a little less confident of his own ability than he would like the world to think.

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  15. doggone7 (486 comments) says:

    …and the missing advice from Jamie Mackay … ” Go on the Radio Sports station David and call everyone ‘Buddy’, ‘Mate’ or ‘Pal.’ That’s what a real Prime Minister would do, I mean does.”

    The Farming Show is just that, a farm show. And where there are farms there are bulls, and where there are bulls there is plenty of BS.

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  16. MT_Tinman (2,790 comments) says:

    I suspect Mackay will find his ratings drop alarmingly and for mine anyone who gives the slimy green scum air – let alone air time – deserves all the bad things they get.

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  17. Maggy Wassilieff (180 comments) says:

    Weeds are just one of the problems to be faced if NZ agriculture goes organic in a big way. I’d be more terrified of organic controls for animal and plant diseases…… I don’t think copper sprays or biodynamic cowpoo solutions are going to be the answer if all your stock come down with some pestilential effluvia.

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  18. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    Just shows what a dick Silent T is, Damien O’Connor goes on Richard Loes Show on Live Sport every week and goes well.

    Mind you he tells the truth and talks sense, so Silent T on second thoughts best you stay away from anyone that will ask a question that will require an honest answer.

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  19. David Garrett (5,119 comments) says:

    Maggy: I see you are relatively new here…welcome…

    Does anyone know what the Greens prescribe for – say – lungworm, liver fluke, pulpy kidney, and facial excema? (those are just the ones I can think of without googling)

    kowtow: Well said….all those lovely heritage buildings financed by mining…

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  20. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    Organic is a wank. We had cousin in laws who were organic dairying. They gave it away because every country has different standards for organic. Typical leftie shit they can’t decide. Fonterra wanted them to be a catch all to comply with every country rather than concentrate on a few markets , it just became ridiculous the hoops they had to jump through.

    And I defy anyone to tell me which milk is organic in a glass, apart from an extortionate price for the shit labeled organic.

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  21. Colville (1,765 comments) says:

    Just shows how piss weak Cuntliffe really is when he is away from the tunnel visioned sychophants that surround him.

    If he cant take a soft paddling from Mackay what will happen when he has to step into the spotlight and face Key is a leaders debate? Or will he give that spot to Wussel as well? Maybe Wussel will just take it and slap Cuntliffe down like the bitch he is.

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  22. David Garrett (5,119 comments) says:

    PEB: Also well said…my knowledge of chemistry is fourth form level, but as far as fertilizers go, there is no chemical difference between powder in a bag and compressed sheep shit is there? (Other than the potency and balance of the NPK in the two different bags)

    On the pesticide/herbicide front I am a bit less sanguine around my little play farm…”brushoff” for blackberry requires 50ml of the stuff in TEN LITRES of water….that is a serious chemical…Yes, on the little play farm I could get a goat on a chain and move it around…that’s not an option on 600 or 1000 acres…

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  23. GPids (13 comments) says:

    I attended a conference last year where a very successful southland organic dairy farmer said that organic farming was not for everyone and that most fsrms in NZ were 80 percent organic anyway because of our pastoral farm systems and that nz should not go organic on a large scale. Ironically, if russell gets his way, some say that many dairy farmers would be forced to erect barns like in europe to capture their nitrogen in an efficient manner because of the greater environmental restrictions the greens would demand. It would also see the few remaining arable farms in canterbury convert to dairying because the greens want to charge for water.
    Unfortunately I fear it would take the greens to be in govt for the nation to see how truely economically destructive they are.

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  24. duggledog (1,102 comments) says:

    DG I’ve had a bit to do with some of this; it’s true that you can farm more ‘organically’ or rather, less toxic, but it’s not easy and requires extremely hard work (something I have never seen a ‘green person’ ever do. Always the first to pike out, part of the reason I distrust them).

    The dung beetles they are experimenting with up north, bury the sheep / cow shit too deep for the internal parasites to survive, breaking the cycle, apparently. We won’t need so much in the way of drench to kill the parasites if it works.

    There are ways to minimise weeds without blanket spraying too, and so much more but not many of these things are practical on a large farm. It’s doable on a smaller farm if you are 30, don’t need to pay a mortgage and your kids help. Farming organically often means a drop in yield. So it’s not practical but when has that ever deterred fuck wits like Norman

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  25. hj (5,674 comments) says:

    “If you really want to be the next prime minister, get your teeth into some issues that affect middle and low-income NZ – jobs, education, health, and the minimum wage are traditional Labour strongholds.”
    ………………….
    Yes on TV One tonight first home buyers are dropping out of the housing market. There has, however been renewed interests from investors: they showed a Chinese and an Indian (diversity dividend and all that). Where are Trotter, Edwards and the team?

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  26. David in Chch (503 comments) says:

    I saw the same report, hj, and while the oriental bidder had a clear accent in his good English, the “Indian” bidder had a kiwi accent. I usually wait for someone to open their mouth before judging where their birthplace may lie.

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  27. Maggy Wassilieff (180 comments) says:

    We shouldn’t forget that many of us of Scots or Irish descent are in this country as a result of the social problems that followed Irish and Scottish Highland Potato famines. I’m damn sure my ancestors were employing good old organic methods on the Ross of Mull during the 1840-50s.
    Some of the green literature extols the advantages plants get when you don’t use synthetic sprays and fertilisers…… but it doesn’t seem that the organic gold kiwifruit vines read the literature….. They succumbed to PSA just the same as the conventional gold kiwifruit vines.

    Some years ago I was researching grape production in NZ and had to check out some organic vineyards. I got the distinct impression that they managed to be productive because they were surrounded by conventional vineyards that kept their vines healthy and disease-free. (Basically organic vineyards relying on “herd immunity”).

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  28. kiwi in america (2,321 comments) says:

    It would be interesting to know if this was Cunliffe’s personal decision or his media minders in the LOO office. Either way its dumb and bad politics as this is a demographic where Labour needs to win at least some votes.

    Cunliffe thinks running as a true red lefty will bring out the lost 800,000. If you’ve voted Labour tribally for most of your adult life but the party has strayed so far from the comfortable centre left spot that it held for decades, it is really hard to vote for anyone else right off the bat and so you just don’t vote. This will be true of socially conservatives people but with a mind to helping others, it will be true of Pasifika tired of leftist assaults on the traditional family and it will be true of small business owners scared of the shrill anti-business bent of Cuniffe and Norman. It takes a few election cycles to look around and feel comfortable leaving what once was your electoral home.

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  29. Chuck Bird (4,401 comments) says:

    There has been a lot of rubbish thrown about Willie Jackson’s way lately – rightly or wrongly. He did accept an invitation to come and speak at an ACT Party Conference. He has my respect for that although I am not impressed by his resent blunders.

    For Cunliffe to turn down an opportunity and allow Russell to take it is not very smart.

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  30. Bob (442 comments) says:

    I’d be interested to know who the 800,000 are. I suspect a high proportion of them are lazy and ignorant who can’t be bothered going out to vote. Fortunately they would be mainly Labour or Green voters. I haven’t heard John Key worrying about them.

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  31. lolitasbrother (330 comments) says:

    Bob, you please can not be that stupid.
    This is dangerous, and they will come out to vote for a simple personal populist gain from the cynical Cuntliffe.
    And our country will lose Bob.
    Work now Bob, get your arse into action.

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  32. Peter (1,468 comments) says:

    Cunliffe is not retreating.

    He’s simply advancing in the opposite direction.

    -The Standard

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