Dom Post says Labour needs clean out

November 11th, 2013 at 6:52 am by David Farrar

The Dom Post editorial:

leader David Cunliffe has been crowing about the growing number of National MPs who have decided to stand down in 2014, likening it to rats deserting a sinking ship. Instead of seeking to make political capital out of his opponent’s obvious drive to bring in new talent at the next election, he would do better to follow suit and start sending the underperformers and time-servers in his own caucus the message that it is time to move on.

Almost a third of Labour’s caucus entered Parliament in the 1980s or 1990s.

Rejuvenation is critical to all political parties. It allows them to bring in new blood to remain fresh in the eyes of voters. However, all too often it is not the parties themselves that do the job, but the electorate, via crushing defeats which see large numbers of sitting MPs turfed out of Parliament.

That is what is so significant about the rejuvenation underway in National. So far, seven of its 59 MPs – nearly an eighth of its caucus – have indicated they will not seek re-election, and there was talk last week that up to six more are considering whether to stand again.

Rejuvenation is a sign of strength, not weakness.

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19 Responses to “Dom Post says Labour needs clean out”

  1. slightlyrighty (2,475 comments) says:

    This did not happen in the Clark years. It shows.

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  2. Super Guest (16 comments) says:

    Labour needed a cleanout five years ago.

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  3. tvb (4,512 comments) says:

    The difference between the two parties is National MPs have a life outside parliament before and afterwards. Labour by contrast see being an MP to be the crowning moment in their otherwise ordinary lives as a school teacher or Union Official. Hence they are reluctant to leave.

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  4. southtop (266 comments) says:

    There should be a 12 year maximum for ALL!

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  5. iMP (2,422 comments) says:

    Should David Cunliffe lead by example and step down? The greatest pruning in Labour is when MPs stand as leader and then get the chuck. A covert refreshment regime?

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  6. tas (646 comments) says:

    I can’t help but laugh when Labour describes National as a sinking ship. National are ~13% ahead of Labour. Does that make Labour a dive wreck?

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  7. slightlyrighty (2,475 comments) says:

    The best people in politics have been some other profession first. The worst people in politics are professional politicians.

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  8. Elaycee (4,409 comments) says:

    Instead of seeking to make political capital out of his opponent’s obvious drive to bring in new talent at the next election, he would do better to follow suit and start sending the underperformers and time-servers in his own caucus the message that it is time to move on.

    But Cunliffe can’t do this. Simply because the introduction of any ‘fresh talent’ is totally dependent on such a resource sitting in the wings. And the Labour ‘talent pool’ is empty.

    So for 2014 at least, Cunliffe is stuck with the current lot – including the relics from the past.

    [gulp]… 8O

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  9. Mobile Michael (464 comments) says:

    You can go overboard, but the MPs who are retiring are not the ones who set the world on fire.

    If you apply that rule to Labour, maybe 4 should be left.

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  10. WineOh (630 comments) says:

    It’s delightful to see mainstream media calling out Cunliffe and Labour’s policies and statements as the BS that they really are. Shortest honeymoon as a new party leader ever!

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  11. Colville (2,300 comments) says:

    Labours problem really is the absolute lack of any resource to draw new talent from.

    I believe it is Hulluns greatest legacy. A totally fucked Liarbore party bereft of talent or leadership.

    Thank You Ms Klark :-)

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  12. Samuel Smith (276 comments) says:

    So true.

    Start with: Mallard, King, Goff, Fenton, Beaumont and Moroney.

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  13. Komata (1,202 comments) says:

    S.S

    But, but, you’ll be offending the poor dear’s sense of ENTITLEMENT! They’re entitled to be there, they’ve ‘done the hard yards, they’ve……

    Besides-which, being out of work (and unemployable?) these people would actually have to stand in a queue at WINZ and that would be soooooo degrading. Imagine, actually having to mix with the ‘lower classes’ (the ‘riff raff’) that they said they represented (yuck…)…

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  14. Warren Murray (314 comments) says:

    It is amusing that the commentary has shifted from National’s retirees being a symptom of its waning popularity to the need for similar change in Labour.

    The high ratio of old dogs could be a legacy of Clark’s leadership, or it could be attributed to the thrashing it got in 2011. Regardless of the cause(s), those old dogs ain’t going to learn any new tricks.

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  15. Nigel Kearney (1,049 comments) says:

    It’s not rejuvenation until we find out who replaces them. At the moment it’s just people quitting, which could mean anything.

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  16. Pita (374 comments) says:

    “it is not the parties themselves that do the job, but the electorate, via crushing defeats which see large numbers of sitting MPs turfed out of Parliament”

    So it used to be under FPP…With MMP, the party list ensures that the old hacks and troughers can hang on with no greater talent than arse kissing.

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  17. MikeG (425 comments) says:

    I look forward to United Future rejunvenating their MP’s – the majority of them entered Parliament in 1984.

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  18. Nigel Ng (13 comments) says:

    @S.S: Just a friendly reminder, you request is out of your beloved party line about gender equality :)

    Totally agreed with the idea of 12-years max for all MPs.

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  19. Manolo (14,065 comments) says:

    @MikeG: The whore Dunne just said UF would rejuvenate its caucus once a second MP is elected. Circa 2079.

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