Is Jones speaking for Labour?

November 12th, 2013 at 7:17 am by David Farrar

Vernon Small at Stuff reports:

The seafood industry is calling for a curb on councils’ powers to control in the name of marine biodiversity protection, saying they are threatening their business and growth prospects.

The issue has surfaced after the Marlborough District Council followed up a 2011 study into ecologically significant marine sites in its region with moves to require consents to dredge or bottom-trawl in some areas.

The industry fears it will set a precedent other councils will follow, giving them the power to limit fishing using the Resource Management Act ().

Labour economic development spokesman is backing the industry and calling for the law to be clarified to stop councils using a “side wind” to achieve a ban on commercial fishing.

I don’t disagree with Jones, but is he speaking for Labour on this issue? Does Labour support a law change to remove this power from local Councils? Or is this another case of “Yeah, Nah” where one MP says one thing, and another says something different?

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14 Responses to “Is Jones speaking for Labour?”

  1. flipper (4,065 comments) says:

    David,

    This is the same as the RMA argument (environment v economic) that silly Peter Dunne and the Maori party are all screwed up on.

    Councils should attend to their core business.

    Bio-diversity crap and all that is NOT their responsibility. If the present law says it can be, then the law should be changed or clarified FORTHWITH.

    But the real danger is, as you correctly note, “Yeah, Nah” by Jones’ colleagues.

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  2. Dennis Horne (2,403 comments) says:

    Good Lord, flipper agrees with me again! :)

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  3. flipper (4,065 comments) says:

    Dennis Horne (1,911) Says:
    November 12th, 2013 at 7:39 am
    Good Lord, flipper agrees with me again
    ****
    :-)

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  4. OneTrack (3,104 comments) says:

    Labour will have to check with their coalition partner to find out what their formal position is. But its likely that parts of the party are already moving to silence, or excommunicate, Jones for speaking out of turn. Back to the reeducation center Jonesy.

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  5. Keeping Stock (10,340 comments) says:

    It sounds very similar to the pro-drilling and mining meeting that Jones and Andrew Little had in Taranaki a couple of months ago, completely in contradiction to Labour Party policy. Yeah nah indeed.

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  6. wreck1080 (3,917 comments) says:

    Jones sounds a bit sensible to be in labour.

    Well, at least on this occasion.

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  7. Yoza (1,873 comments) says:

    No! We wouldn’t want something trivial, like democracy, getting in the way of a bunch of eco-vandals destroying the environment in the cause of personally enriching themselves.

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  8. Dennis Horne (2,403 comments) says:

    @Yoza. Yes, Yoza, Man is destroying Earth. I would personally rejoice if five billion people on this planet starved to death. More space and stuff for me and mine.

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  9. Simon (724 comments) says:

    “personally enriching themselves.”

    Yes I can see how this would be a problem for you. This would create inequality in society as well?

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  10. mikemikemikemike (325 comments) says:

    I don’t know where I sit on this, people have to make money. But I’ve worked in areas where that type of fishing is allowed and it decimates entire seabeds to gather their fish. and the waste from it is incredibly sad.

    I guess it comes back to a failing of central government – clearly the local people of that area feel that have not been listened to by Wellington inc, so they have voted in a local government to do it for them instead.

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  11. Ross12 (1,428 comments) says:

    Yoza needs to learn abit about how the seafood industry works. The commercial part works on a quota system –under law the quota for a species is a property right for the owner. Yes there are some restrictions around seasons , fish size etc etc but they do have legal rights as well.
    Looking at the article by Small it would seem to be scallop fishing which would be the main fishery affected. In the Marlborough Sounds there would be alot of recreation fishing involving scallop dredging as well.
    Any tralwing in those areas is likely to be done by small trawlers and they would have operated there for decades.

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  12. woodburner (30 comments) says:

    Local councils simply don’t have the expertise to set policy on seabed & fishing issues. I imagine the planning teams at those councils are doling out cash hand over fist to a consultancy for advice on this. They are effectively devolving responsibility for policy to those guys – you can guarantee that the advice will be accepted without question as it is “independent”. There should be a central position for consistency, from whatever acronym is now MAF.

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  13. burt (8,269 comments) says:

    I think it all will come down to how strong the “fisheries” unions are. If they make big donations to Labour then expect some law change.

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  14. Jack5 (5,137 comments) says:

    The NZ fishing industry needs to clean up the slave ships it licenses before it tells anyone-else how to run their business.

    The slave ships are condemned by the United States and others.

    Where does Labour stand on the slave ships issue?

    The slave ships often, perhaps even mostly, fish on quotas from Maori tribes.

    They should note that this trade is the first time since the Treaty of Waitangi that we have had slavery accusations in NZ. (To be more accurate slavery did linger on among Taranaki Maori invaders in the Chathams, who apparently kept Moriori as slaves for a few decades after 1840).

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