Just one problem

November 12th, 2013 at 4:00 pm by David Farrar

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The released a “public owners report” into with a photo of in front of what one would assume is an MRP wind turbine.

There’s only one small problem.

I’m told Mighty River Power doesn’t have any wind turbines.

Now if an energy company that didn’t actually have any wind turbines, used a photo of one on their annual report cover, I’m pretty sure the Greens would condemn them for green-washing and false advertising. So will the Greens condemn their own annual report?

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58 Responses to “Just one problem”

  1. wikiriwhis business (3,883 comments) says:

    So what does this huge national power outage mean to power customers. Just keep changing providers ?

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  2. RF (1,271 comments) says:

    What a useless little boy !!!!!

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  3. Redbaiter (7,605 comments) says:

    Gareth Hughes is no stranger to deceit.

    I have been to one of his public meetings.

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  4. redqueen (456 comments) says:

    Meh, details are something socialists always glaze over. Last election wasn’t it Goof standing in front of a Contact Energy hydrostation decrying that it wouldn’t be subject to MOM under Labour?

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  5. Archer (170 comments) says:

    I’m pretty sure MRP do have wind turbines DPF, because I highly doubt Gareth Hughes and the Green Party would go out and mislead the New Zealand public in such a scummy fashion. That would make Gareth Hughes a pretty shitty human being.

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  6. redqueen (456 comments) says:

    @Archer

    No, MRP may be looking at potentially building wind turbines, but at this stage, the company’s assets are hydro and geothermal (with a single gas turbine station). That can rather easily be confirmed by simply checking their website…

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  7. iMP (2,236 comments) says:

    No, I think they’re saying Gareth IS the wind generating on this issue.

    How old is he, btheway, 12?

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  8. redqueen (456 comments) says:

    Given how much rubbish they’ve managed to pack into the ‘report’ and how amateurish it’s been written, judging a book by its cover has renewed value…

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  9. Sidey (248 comments) says:

    @redqueen

    Perhaps you missed the sarcasm dripping off Archer’s post?

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  10. Ross12 (1,148 comments) says:

    This is abit like the BS with Jan Logie in Sri Lanka. The Greens and honesty are two things that will never meet.

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  11. cha (3,779 comments) says:

    Well Turitea has been consented.

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  12. Bad__Cat (137 comments) says:

    As a part owner of MRP I am really pissed of that Gawith is using my company for political purposes. I will let him use it’s same on payment of a suitable Koha.

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  13. redqueen (456 comments) says:

    @Sidey

    Yes, it’s been a long day…

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  14. James Stephenson (2,024 comments) says:

    Stand him on a slipway in front of one of their dams next time…and I’ll open the taps

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  15. Bad__Cat (137 comments) says:

    Having trouble with editing today.
    It should read”use it’s name”

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  16. Manolo (13,357 comments) says:

    The mendacious Hughes is also an accomplished attention-seeker. Par for the course for this trougher.

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  17. Longknives (4,454 comments) says:

    Does this guy make your fucking skin crawl or what?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3271914/Meet-the-Green-Partys-new-MP

    “While a student he became a vegetarian and got into environmental campaigning..”

    Excuse me while I vomit.

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  18. burt (7,806 comments) says:

    They like to tell us that socialism works – the rest is just the padding required to support the first major deceit.

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  19. ChrisM (92 comments) says:

    whikiwhatsit
    The power cut was caused by Transpower, who are the grid monopoly and not for sale (yet). And though it was painful, the test was necessary, even if it went wrong. All the windturbines on the grid actually made the effect of the cut worse, but that is too much of an inconvenient fact for people to deal with.

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  20. Bill Ted (80 comments) says:

    Hey Clint – do we know if MRP has a windfarm?

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  21. Mobile Michael (414 comments) says:

    Does Gareth know that 51% is owned by a little old lady who lives in England?

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  22. Roflcopter (424 comments) says:

    It’s as funny as when Gareth boldly posted himself in front of a Geothermal plant and extolling it’s virtues…. how does he think we get geothermal energy? (clue: drilling and fracking)

    Slightly less hot air than in Parliament. Checking out geothermal energy with @greencatherine near Taupo. pic.twitter.com/fqAvVGMu6s— Gareth Hughes (@GarethMP) June 19, 2013

    You can’t make this shit up.

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  23. peterwn (3,157 comments) says:

    ChrisM – Transpower could be difficult to sell off and if sold Transpower and the Government (as regulator) would at some time have to face the issues that are plaguing Chorus and the Government (as regulator). It would be like the current Chorus issue but on steroids. Basically, in some areas of activity, decision making needs to be based on what is required in the interests of customers and the general economy, rather than what makes the most money for shareholders. Although Transpower has tried to assess prospective projects on a commercial basis it could not satisfy itself that they would be profitable, for example a possible proposed power station could trash the economics of a transmission project – in other words there was a ‘market failure’ requiring decision making to be based on other objectives. Similarly, Transpower had tried to contract out engineering functions to consultants, but this undermines the integrity of its fundamental engineering processes. Transpower has made engineers and others redundant only to have to hire them back again a few years later.

    So Transpower could be the last State entity that the Government would consider selling down or off.

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  24. Ryan Sproull (7,028 comments) says:

    “While a student he became a vegetarian and got into environmental campaigning..”

    Excuse me while I vomit.

    Why?

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  25. ChrisM (92 comments) says:

    petewn
    I know it is very unlikely that one could have a decent regulatory regime to allow one to sell Transpower, but it something to wind up the Taliban with.

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  26. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (786 comments) says:

    No big deal. Nothing here. Move on boys.

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  27. KapitiCoast (114 comments) says:

    @ Ryan….isn’t that what they all say, the ‘greenies’ to some extent. When I was at Uni/college I wanted to be popular so did what my peers were doing so i’d fit in!? Vegitarian and save the whales (for older greenies and CND etc)…lets face it what else was he doing at Uni/Collage as he doesn’t look like a sports player of any sort, can’t see how any woman would find him desirable so that leaves him with ummmm…a chess club organiser and hall monitor bully looking guy?, he would fit right in as a cast member of The Big Bang Theory without the brains!

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  28. Judith (7,591 comments) says:

    So if we judge the substance of a our politicians based on the reality of the props used in photos, how do we interpret the photo of John Key taken with a couple of Homosexual Entertainers in the background? :-) :-)

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  29. KapitiCoast (114 comments) says:

    Ahhh but Judith they WERE gay and it was gay pride week or something, Gareth is on a wind turbine politicising MRP against partial privatisation that do not own any wind turbines!!…see the difference.

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  30. Colville (2,079 comments) says:

    That smirk just makes me want to punch him.

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  31. burt (7,806 comments) says:

    Judith …. Nothing compares to the photos of Clarkenstein getting younger every election with perfect teeth….

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  32. eszett (2,333 comments) says:

    There’s only one small problem.

    I’m told Mighty River Power doesn’t have any wind turbines.

    Now if an energy company that didn’t actually have any wind turbines, used a photo of one on their annual report cover, I’m pretty sure the Greens would condemn them for green-washing and false advertising. So will the Greens condemn their own annual report?

    A bit of a silly post as a simple google search would have shown you.

    It seems they are involved in several wind turbine projects.

    http://www.mightyriver.co.nz/Media-Centre/Latest-News/2012-Archive/Resource-Consents-Granted-For-Wind-Development-at.aspx

    Mighty River Power announced today that resource consents have been granted for a proposed 53 turbine wind farm on the Puketoi Range, 40 km south of Dannevirke.

    http://www.mightyriver.co.nz/Media-Centre/Latest-News/2012-Archive/Mighty-River-Power-Development-Projects-Update.aspx

    Puketoi Wind Farm
    In August 2011 Mighty River Power lodged resource consent applications for a 53-turbine 326MW wind farm in the Puketoi Ranges, south of Dannevirke. This project has progressed through a public hearing and a decision on the awarding of consents is now imminent.

    and

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turitea_Wind_Farm

    Turitea Wind Farm is a proposed wind farm being developed by Mighty River Power (MRP) for the Palmerston North District Council. Most of the land is located in the Turitea Reserve, near Turitea, in Palmerston North, New Zealand. The project was initially planned for 131 wind turbines[2] with a capacity of over 300 MW,[3] with final approval of 60 turbines or 180 MW.[1]
    The wind farm is proposed for land owned by the Palmerston North District Council. In 2005 and following a competitive bid process, the Council selected MRP to develop the project.[4]

    Not really unusual to show future technology an annual report. Say, if e.g. if AIr NZ on it’s annual report last year would have shown a 787 Dreamliner, would you have been mocking them that they don’t really own a 787?

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  33. gazzmaniac (2,317 comments) says:

    Say, if e.g. if AIr NZ on it’s annual report last year would have shown a 787 Dreamliner, would you have been mocking them that they don’t really own a 787?

    Probably. They’re passing up the opportunity to use the new 787 on the report after they take delivery of the first one.

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  34. Johnboy (14,973 comments) says:

    If he was slipped down to the tip of the blade would he achieve orbital velocity as the Worlds first truly green Astronaut?

    I’d be happy to pay a bit to help the sad little shit on his way! :)

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  35. burt (7,806 comments) says:

    gazzmaniac

    Yep, that’s because they are company in a competitive market and can’t been seen to be being dishonest to their shareholders and customers.

    But jump forward a little, Kiwipower, with a legislated monopoly position and zero accountability to anything but the government de-jour will be telling us it’s 100% renewable the moment it’s given its state owned right to trade on perception rather than reality.

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  36. RF (1,271 comments) says:

    This little prick must have trouble sleeping at night knowing that 90% of the NZ population hates his guts.

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  37. burt (7,806 comments) says:

    eszett

    Consent gained, capital required… Or have we the tax payers already guaranteed them that ?

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  38. Johnboy (14,973 comments) says:

    He once dressed as Ronald McDonald to get folk to love him.

    It didn’t work! :)

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  39. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Is that a photo of a bloke? bet he put the fear of god into opposing front rows

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  40. toad (3,669 comments) says:

    Oh, FFS, DPF.

    The wind turbine image is a positive image of what our energy future should/could be, rather than indicative of how MRP generates its electricity.

    The Greens would hardly put up a coal generation plant image, unless they want a very negative one. Don’t think MRP has any of them either, do they? Suspect will leave that imagery for the Genesis float.

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  41. Johnboy (14,973 comments) says:

    Huge amounts of wind seem to be appropriate to Greens politics Toadie.

    I put it down to a vegetarian diet. Eat more meat chaps even if your really ugly Green women put you off that sort of thing! :)

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  42. Grendel (951 comments) says:

    so to the greens a positive image of our energy future on a bullshit document is a bird killing blade of limited economic and energy generation return that takes up massive amounts of space, blighting the landscape.

    DPF, did we pay for the greens PR report?

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  43. toad (3,669 comments) says:

    @ Johnboy 8:36 pm

    I put it down to a vegetarian diet. Eat more meat chaps even if your really ugly Green women put you off that sort of thing!

    I eat shitloads of meat, Johnboy. Lamb chops for dinner tonight, as did my wife.

    Hopefully a pork bone a bit later!

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  44. adze (1,863 comments) says:

    The Green Party love images of wind turbines. That and cute kids standing on a shoreline. But billboard making seems to be the only genuine idea of job creation they have. :)

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  45. Pete George (22,804 comments) says:

    Just another problem. Mrs Turei said…

    “If Auckland needs a convention centre it should get one that is not attached to a public health menace and which is paid for honestly. It’s not right for it to be paid for by the misery of thousands of families, businesses and 6500 children who officials estimate will be harmed by this deal.

    “The Greens will campaign right up to the next election against this deal. In Government we will act quickly. We have not committed to uphold the contract or the compensation and we will introduce much tougher rules in casinos and pokie bars.

    http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/hold-back-diggers-john-green-party/5/173722

    A bill democratically passed through Parliament at threat of being trashed later. A party that can’t uphold contracts would be diabolical in Government.

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  46. toad (3,669 comments) says:

    @Grendel 8:41 pm

    If you want to go down that line of argument, Grendel, coal kills far more than nuclear.

    I would support nuclear over coal for China. But in NZ, nuclear is just not feasible, for both technical and economic reasons. And we have plenty of renewable energy resources to exploit, so no need for either.

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  47. toad (3,669 comments) says:

    @Pete George 9:09 pm

    Off-topic (DPF may have something to say about that), but responding anyway:

    Basic constitutional principles, Pete.

    Every Government is sovereign, so any Government can amend or repeal any legislation passed by a previous government.

    If they get the opportunity to, the Greens should repeal this legislation. It is cronyism, it favours one competitor over others, it increases harm from problem gambling, it protects SkyCity’s casino licence from the challenge other casinos will soon face until 2048… In short, it is one of the most undemocratic Bills to ever be passed.

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  48. Johnboy (14,973 comments) says:

    Well Toadie if you find a surfeit of greasy lamb renders you unable to pork your missus I am available to do the deed.

    I just need a rating (1 to 5) on her so I can take the correct dose of Viagra.

    As an example so you can rate her: Julie (gagged) being a 1. Jan being a 2. Eugenie being a 3. Mad Kath/Meteria tying for 4/5. Kevin as the booby prize! :)

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  49. Pete George (22,804 comments) says:

    Just because Greens don’t agree with it doesn’t make it undemocratic. It passed through Parliament, that’s what’s how it works in our democracy.

    If Greens force a contract trashing especially with no compensation they will lose any credibility as a party in Government. Ok, they can’t lose something they have never had, but it will probably be their only shot at being in power.

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  50. thedavincimode (6,531 comments) says:

    (DPF may have something to say about that)

    Goodness me Toad. Maybe you two have something in common. Why not form a club?

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  51. Sponge (144 comments) says:

    Toad

    “Every Government is sovereign” So we can get government to tip out this silly treaty then?

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  52. Pete George (22,804 comments) says:

    Like your wee bully boy club tdm? You must really be proud of your contribution here, on someone else’s blog.

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  53. ZenTiger (425 comments) says:

    I’ll think you’ll find MRP owns plenty of Wind Turbines through their staff Super Fund. They just haven’t declared them as yet.

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  54. toad (3,669 comments) says:

    @Pete George 9:27 pm

    Fair comment re “undemocratic” – that was probably an inappropriate term, although I wonder what sort of pressure/incentives were applied to Peter Dunne & John Banks to support this travesty that allows SkyCity to expand an “industry” that most New Zealanders want to be reduced.

    A few years ago, I was visiting Norfolk Island, whose law is largely covered by Australian federal law. A norfolk local told me a story about an Australian “entrepreneur” who wanted to bring pokies into Norfolk (which the law allowed).

    The problem with Norfolk is that there is no deep water port, so all freight has to be offloaded onto small boats, crewed by locals, to get to shore.

    The problem for the Australian “entrepreneur” is that the locals crewing the boats didn’t want pokies on their island so declared “bad weather” and every pokie machine on the ship happened to end up on the seabed off the Norfolk coast in transit to the island.

    All power to the people of Norfolk Island, and I still hope those of us who oppose pokie expansion in New Zealand will succeed.

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  55. Pete George (22,804 comments) says:

    You do know that pokie numbers are still planned on reducing don’t you? Isn’t it better to put what we have in less locations rather than spread throughout the ‘burbs?

    I don’t like pokies but as with many things it’s a lot harder in practice to just eliminate all of something you don’t like than by agreeing on idealistic policy at a happy clappy meeting.

    Greens have a major image problem as being draconian. That’s scaring away potential support and will limit growth (and could easily reverse it), especially if the regulation razzmatazz gets put into action.

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  56. Grendel (951 comments) says:

    ah pokie machines cause bad gambling. what a lot of nonsense.

    typical greens authoritarian, we know best bullshit.

    trust the greens to support destruction of private property as well, does not surprise me that toad is happy that some muppets in norfolk destroyed private property of other people, of course destruction of private property is the greens mo if its suits their needs.

    see how toad assumes corruption of others? its becuase its all the greens know for themselves. he knows the greens have sold out and do whatever greenpeace tell them to do so naturally assume that banks and dunne would sell out the same. in their world only the greens make decisions based on evidence, everyone else is due to dubious motives.

    of course this is from the only party that organised a campaign of arson against other parties from their leaders office.

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  57. Sam Buchanan (502 comments) says:

    An arson campaign? Really – what was that?

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  58. Ryan Sproull (7,028 comments) says:

    @ Ryan….isn’t that what they all say, the ‘greenies’ to some extent. When I was at Uni/college I wanted to be popular so did what my peers were doing so i’d fit in!? Vegitarian and save the whales (for older greenies and CND etc)…lets face it what else was he doing at Uni/Collage as he doesn’t look like a sports player of any sort, can’t see how any woman would find him desirable so that leaves him with ummmm…a chess club organiser and hall monitor bully looking guy?, he would fit right in as a cast member of The Big Bang Theory without the brains!

    Fucking hell, Kapiti, did you go to university in a ’80s college frat movie?

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