Obama struggling

November 16th, 2013 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

Jennifer Rubin at The Washington Post writes:

President Obama’s just-completed press conference was arguably worse than the Obamacare rollout. Alternately confessing, apologizing and blame shifting, he inadvertently made the case against his own executive skills, Obamacare and big government in general.

His announced fix is aimed at remedying the mass cancellation of individually-purchased insurance plans by letting insurance companies re-offer non-compliant policies. This makes clear that contrary to the statements from Jay Carney and Valerie Jarrett, Obamacare and not the insurers were the cause of the cancellations. Obama let slip that this is one big blame-shifting exercise when he announced that no one would be able to say Obamacare caused them to lose insurance. It is of course false because it is unlikely all the canceled policies can be restored.

Obama is losing Democrats in Congress who fear for their seats because of this. Several of them are signing up to Republican bills to change the law. If they pass, will Obama veto them?

Rather ironic that the Republicans fought so hard to defend Obamacare. Their best strategy would have been to step aside and watch it fall apart :-)

Rubin quotes some lines from the press conference:

“We fumbled the rollout on this health-care law.”

“I completely get how upsetting this can be for a lot of Americans.”

“It is a complex process.”

“I was not informed directly [How about indirectly?!] that the Web site would not be working. . . . I don’t think I’m stupid enough to go around saying this is going to be like shopping on Amazon or Travelocity, a week before the Web site opens, if I thought that it wasn’t going to work.”

“With respect to the pledge I made that if you like your plan you can keep it. . . that there is no doubt that the way I put that forward unequivocally ended up not being accurate.”

“The federal government does a lot of things really well. One of those things it does not do well is information technology procurement.”

“What we are also discovering is insurance is complicated to buy.”

Rubin continues:

Obama’s answers were long, rambling and at times hard to understand. What is clear is there is no arguing Obamacare can’t be touched or that this administration knows what it is doing. It was a remarkable confession about his own and the federal government’s ineptness, a virtual ad against big government — especially ones dependent on IT procurement. In admitting this was about shifting blame to insurers, he made crystal clear that his conduct is and has been about damage control, not permanently fixing an unworkable bill. He certainly gave satisfaction to Republicans who have been making many of these arguments all along. And it will no doubt convince Democrats to run as fast and as far as they can from this hapless president.

The deadline for the website to be working is now 30 November. If they fumble again, it will just get worse.

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55 Responses to “Obama struggling”

  1. Don the Kiwi (1,750 comments) says:

    Yeah, O’Bumbler is in deep shit over this.
    Just shows that the guy really is just an empty suit – bloody socialist.

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  2. All_on_Red (1,582 comments) says:

    They had three years to get it set up. It’s a great example of why the government should stay out of business. I think some 50 million Americans now have no healthcare coverage.
    Nationalising the system is just not going to work.
    The GOP will be happy though. None of them voted for it whilst all the Dems did so the Dems can only blame themselves.
    In other news. 84 days until the debt ceiling is reached. More drama to come.
    How right Mitt Romney was about how things were going to totally turn to shit under Obama.
    Obama is the worst US President ever. Even Jimmy Carter is slating him!

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  3. kowtow (8,446 comments) says:

    Obamacare.

    About 100,000 have signed up while hundreds of thousands have lost their cover.

    How’s that hopey changey thing working ?

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  4. CameronFoxton (28 comments) says:

    Obamacare will do more good in long run, no more losing coverage over preexisting conditions, parents can keep kids up to 26 on their plans. People who have lost their non-compliment plans will not be an issue if the exchanges had been working properly, which in some states they are, the issue is those who coverage will lapse at end of year if they cannot reinsure before then due to shitty healthcare website. When you have a health care system that routinely bankrupts families it’s time for a change.

    Maybe if the republicans had spent more time scrutinising the law rather than hysterically crying about death panels they would have had more success in recent elections as the law is undoubtably unpopular

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  5. Manolo (13,754 comments) says:

    That’s what you get for electing an amateur as POTUS.
    The Kenyan is a dismal failure.

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  6. Fletch (6,376 comments) says:

    He not only struggled, his “fix” makes changes to the law without going through congress.
    You can’t do that. it isn’t constitutional or legal.
    The fix also shifts the blame to insurance companies in asking them to allow plans they’ve probably already scrapped.

    [A]ccording to Ken Klukowski, a constitutional lawyer on the faculty of Liberty University’s School of Law, 

    This is a frightening claim of a sweeping power that is completely inconsistent with the Constitution.… There is no “enforcement discretion” [for Obama] to determine which laws on the books he will enforce….

    It is a flagrant and undeniable violation of his constitutional duty under the Take Care clause.… Only Congress can change those parts of the Affordable Care Act….

    It’s an open and shut case that this president’s actions are unconstitutional, again.

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/16958-legal-scholar-obama-s-fix-of-obamacare-s-bungled-debut-unconstitutional

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  7. big bruv (13,886 comments) says:

    I don’t like Obama or his style of politics but for DPF to suggest that he is struggling is a bit of a stretch.

    Obama has already been elected for his second and last term, as far as that goes he has nothing left to achieve. From what I can see he might not have won many friends on the right but then he never set out to do that. His second term is all about forcing change on the USA, in that he is winning.

    Obama does not care what the cost is, like all socialists he is happy for the “rich pricks” to pay via their taxes, if that means that he takes the USA to the point where they have no option but to raise taxes to pay for all his promises then he has indeed won.

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  8. Manolo (13,754 comments) says:

    Even the (il)liberal New York Times has its doubts: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/15/us/politics/parallels-to-bush-in-toxic-political-mix-threatening-obama.html?_r=0

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  9. Harriet (4,969 comments) says:

    “…..Rather ironic that the Republicans fought so hard to defend Obamacare. Their best strategy would have been to step aside and watch it fall apart :cool: ….”

    The Conservatives are not standing aside – they are doing the heavy lifting so that the RINOS don’t destroy the Republican Party – just like their brother progs have destroyed the Democrats. Then O’bamacare or KiwiAssure, Kiwirail, Kiwibank – or whatever else the progs call it – won’t destroy the country – and National :cool:

    The real story is in the truth David, but you already new that -Redbaiter has told you the truth dozens of times. :cool:

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  10. Longknives (4,741 comments) says:

    You are all evil racists for not supplicating at the feet of the Messiah…

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  11. Fletch (6,376 comments) says:

    .Rather ironic that the Republicans fought so hard to defend Obamacare.

    I am thinking DPF meant, defund Obamacare there.

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  12. Cato (1,095 comments) says:

    @big bruv – that’s the kind of attitude that’s predicated on the idea that politics is about winning elections instead of, you know, being able to do stuff. By your measure GWB had a pretty successful second term simply by virtue of the fact that he had one.

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  13. iMP (2,384 comments) says:

    You know it’s over when Jon Stewart applies the blowtorch to the nethers…

    http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/11/16/jon-stewart-obamacare-takedown/

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  14. Fletch (6,376 comments) says:

    Interestingly, Hillary Clinton is the “wicked stepmother” of Obamacare. Just released papers will show that the plan and ideas come straight from her and were adopted by Obama.

    After seven years of stonewalling, the Clinton Presidential Library is finally releasing partial records of the White House meetings that produced the Hillary Clinton health care plan – Obamacare’s wicked stepmother.

    The conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch has been fighting for the records since 2006, when Hillary Clinton was gearing up for her first run for the presidency – when Barack Obama was still a junior senator from Illinois [...]

    And as bad as Obamacare looks now, the 57,000 pages of recently released records could very well make Hillary look worse, because they’re going to remind America that a lot of this Obamacare train wreck started with Hillary Clinton as the chief engineer 20 years ago

    If records Judicial Watch has already wrestled out of the Clinton Library are any guide, almost everything America hates about Obamacare started with Hillarycare:

    It’s overreach:  “… I have trouble coming up with a precedent in our peacetime history for such broad and centralized control over a sector of the economy… .Is the public really ready for this?… none of us knows whether we can make it work well or at all.” (June 18, 1993, internal White House memo, author unknown. The emphasis is added, but it sounds damn familiar. )

    Its secrecy: Soon-to-be-former Sen. Jay Rockefeller wrote to Clinton (in an ironically “confidential” memo that he was afraid a “secret cabal of Washington policy ‘wonks’” had been “choking off information” about health-care reform from the public. (Sounds familiar again.)

    It’s thuggery: A Feb. 5, 1993, draft memo described an “interest group data base” with information about groups that “support(ed) us in the election” – with personal information about organization leaders, home phone numbers, addresses and acquaintanceships, “biographies, analysis of credibility in the media, and known relationships with Congress people.”

    http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/11/10/stonewalled-hillarycare-records-about-to-be-made-public-86876

    And it looks like the “like your plan, keep your plan” was a Hillary idea first –

    It was Hillary Clinton that originally coined the now problematic “like your plan, keep your plan” talking point that President Barack Obama relied on during his fight for Obamacare.

    On Clinton’s 2007 campaign website, unearthed by America Rising, it is written that that under Hillary’s American Health Choices Plan, “if you have a plan you like, you keep it.”

    Screenshot of Hillaryclinton.com 2007

    http://freebeacon.com/like-your-plan-keep-your-plan-was-a-hillary-creation/

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  15. gazzmaniac (2,307 comments) says:

    The question I would be asking is why did Obama try to bring in a highly complicated regulated compulsory private insurance system complete with fines? That is not social healthcare

    Like it or not, the system in the other English speaking democracies is much better. There is a basic level of healthcare supplied by the government. In New Zealand it is paid for by general taxation, in the UK and Australia it is paid for with a seperate levy on your income, and I don’t know how how it works in Canada. If you want more coverage you’re welcome to pay for it. That is true social healthcare, and I would have thought that it would appeal to Obama since rich people pay more than poor and retired people.

    Why did he reinvent the wheel when there are four other similar countries who have a system that actually works?

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  16. Sonny Blount (1,782 comments) says:

    because he could never pass a bill that does that gazz

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  17. BlairM (2,339 comments) says:

    Rather ironic that the Republicans fought so hard to defend Obamacare. Their best strategy would have been to step aside and watch it fall apart

    That’s a pretty retarded comment. What credit would the GOP have gotten from doing that?! The Republicans that bothered to fight this now look like prophets and have the moral high ground on the issue. Campaigns build momentum, and instead of a nice administration that made a mistake, we now have an administration that looks in complete disarray – all because Ted Cruz et al fought so hard and told us this was exactly what was going to happen.

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  18. Fletch (6,376 comments) says:

    gazz, you will probably say that it is a conspiracy theory, but some will say that it is to bring down the Govt. I don’t know whether I subscribe to that, but someone who was at Columbia at the same time as Obama (and in the same class, although no one in that class can ever remember seeing Obama there) says that that was a plan they talked about all the time.

    I was Barack Obama’s college classmate at Columbia University, Class of 1983. I was easy to recognize – the lone outspoken conservative in a class of 700 students.

    America’s decline under Obama isn’t due to mistake, ignorance, or incompetence at the hands of a community organizer. It’s a purposeful, brilliant plan hatched at Columbia University to destroy capitalism, American exceptionalism, Judeo-Christian values, and the American Dream.

    We were all taught a simple, but brilliant plan. My classmates discussed it 24/7. It was their “American Dream.”

    It was called “Cloward-Piven,” after former Columbia professors Richard Cloward and Frances Piven. To bring down America and our capitalist system, they were taught to overwhelm the system with massive spending, entitlements and debt. That would cause the economy to collapse, wipe out the middle class, and bring Americans to their knees, begging government to save them.

    It’s the exact plan Obama has been implementing. The centerpiece is Obamacare.

    Obamacare isn’t about health care. It’s about bankrupting the middle class and addicting it to government dependency. It’s about redistributing wealth from the middle class and small business to Obama’s voters (the poor and unions). Its goal is to wipe out the last vestiges of middle class America, creating a two-class society: the super rich and the poor (both beholden to Obama).

    Obama learned well, it’s working to perfection.

    So that explains the plan. But how do you implement it? We were taught that at Columbia too.

    A key component of the plan involved fooling the voters by calling yourself “moderate” and a “uniter,” even though you are a radical Marxist. We were taught to never admit what you really believe in. It involved demonizing your opponents, calling them “evil, greedy, extreme, radical, and terrorist.” Look in the mirror and call your opponents the very things you are.

    Obama learned well.

    The plan taught us to hide your true intensions (in other words- lie, misrepresent, commit fraud). So Obamacare is about “saving the uninsured,” as opposed to income redistribution.

    The root (excuse the pun) of every Obama policy, everything Obama does, and everything happening to the U.S. economy, all started at Columbia. The entire Obama agenda to overwhelm the system, wipe out the middle class, bankrupt small business, and destroy capitalism, was hatched at Columbia. Obama may not have attended class, but he learned well.

    http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/what-obama-and-i-learned-at-columbia-how-to-destroy-america-from-within/

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  19. Reboot (101 comments) says:

    Rather ironic that the Republicans fought so hard to defend Obamacare. Their best strategy would have been to step aside and watch it fall apart :-)

    Don’t you mean defeat?

    [DPF: It is a type. Defund is meant]

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  20. Manolo (13,754 comments) says:

    @BlairM, thank you for correcting DPF, fine example of progressivism.
    The NZ National Party is the equivalent of the US Democrats, after all.

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  21. Fletch (6,376 comments) says:

    Rather ironic that the Republicans fought so hard to defend Obamacare~ DPF

    That’s a pretty retarded comment. ~BlairM

    I think DPF meant defund NOT defend

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  22. Fletch (6,376 comments) says:

    ps, according to Rand Paul, Obama personally included the regulation in Obamacare to cancel insurance plans.

    “I’m still learning about it. It’s 20,000 pages of regulations. The Bill was 2,000 pages and I didn’t realize this until this week, the whole idea of you losing or getting your insurance cancelled wasn’t in the original Obamacare. It was a regulation WRITTEN BY PRESIDENT OBAMA, three months later. So we had a vote, this is before I got up there. The Republicans had a vote to try to cancel that regulation so you COULDN’T BE CANCELLED, to grandfather everybody in. You know what the vote was? Straight party line. EVERY DEMOCRAT VOTED TO KEEP THE RULE THAT CANCELS YOUR INSURANCE.”

    [Begins @ 5:40]

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  23. kiwi in america (2,449 comments) says:

    BlairM
    I believe David made a typo – putting defend instead of defund.

    CameronFoxton
    So many inaccuracies on one post its hard to know where to begin. The issue of the adequacy or inadequacy of existing coverage is moot – Obama sold Obamacare to the American electorate on a rock solid unequivocal promise that we now know he knew when he made it was a lie “if you like your plan you can keep your plan – ditto for your doctor. Period”. There were no caveats or buts or riders to this promise and it was made over and over both before, during and after the passage of the ACA. The fact is that the entire scheme was premised on using the mandate to force the young and healthy to opt for a bells and whistle policy whose bells and whistles would not be used thus freeing insurers up to cover the sick, elderly and uninsurable. Many of the 40 million uninsured are those who deliberately chose self insurance – a group dominated by the young who would rather spend their money elsewhere.

    The crappy website is the least of Obama’s problems. In reality the low volumes of applicants to the exchanges is masking worse back end issues (sending of garbled unactionable data to the insurers) and the fact that fewer of the young, healthy and uninsured are enrolling thus skewering the risk pool with a higher percentage of more costly unhealthy and older applicants.

    The reality is that when you took out the poor who qualified for Medicaid (the Federal health care programme for low income earners) or State equivalents, the illegals, the uninsured by choice (the young and the wealthy) and those temporarily uninsured simply because they are between jobs, the real pool of the uninsurable (those with pre-existing conditions or the working poor) was closer to 16 million. There are a raft of ways of cracking those nuts without the upending of the whole health care system with the top down approach of Obamacare.

    In the past all major landmark reforms in the US have made it onto the statute books with bi-partisan support. Obama could not get a single Republican vote in either House of Congress AND had to resort to procedural chicanery to avoid the filibuster when he lost his filibuster proof Senate majority when Scott Brown won the Massachusetts senate special election in early 2010. Furthermore, the GOP in the House has passed numerous bills that proffered real workable solutions to healthcare as a more practical, workable more market based solution to runaway health care costs and getting coverage for those shut out of the current system – all were not even brought to the vote in the Democrat controlled Senate AND threatened with veto by Obama. So much for wanting to work with Republicans to find solutions – just hot air.

    Obama was a rookie at administration having run nothing more than the Harvard Law Review (permanent staff of 3) and his Senate Office (staff of 15) and its showing. He is either a liar and knew all along what the HHS put into the Federal Register (the US version of the Gazette), that the real total number of people who would lose their coverage under the ACA was 93 million AND that the website was not going to work or he’s the most disengaged incompetent President since Jimmy Carter who presides blissfully unconnected to the government he heads and the signature legislative achievement he championed. Either option is a shocking indictment on his Presidency. Republicans warned this would happen – middle America is realizing it too now.

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  24. iMP (2,384 comments) says:

    I don’t believe the conspiracy, it just ain’t that organised. This is just incompetence. Obama doesn’t really know what he’s doing, he’s out of his depth politically. Is just a suit that talks, a show pony. He has no undergirding policy wonk framework like the Clintons, just rode a wave of popularity and Change. The timing was good for a feel-good Black president, all on the basis of his skills at oratory. It was martin Luther King Jr. nostalgia with a 21st gucci suit.

    But as Lincoln so wisely observed, “ya can’t fool all of the people all of the time.”

    Time’s up Obama. You’ve been found out.

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  25. stephieboy (3,030 comments) says:

    Am fascinated to learn what our local version of tea baggers , birthers. “libertarians”, Survivalists etc who post on this thread and are so opposed to Obamacare ( but more especially a black man in the white house), what they propose for NZ.?
    I had always thought that Obama should of gone for a more simple scheme directly funded by Taxation rather than comprising it so much with the Private Medical Insurance lobby leaches .!

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  26. Feanor (38 comments) says:

    The racism endemic to Kiwiblog is best shown by the comment about Obama being Kenyan getting 12 upvotes and one downvote.

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  27. adamsmith1922 (890 comments) says:

    Why is anybody surprised at this omnishambles?

    Our equivalent is Novopay. Where I suspect dirty work by various of the parties involved, especially the unions.

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  28. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Feanor, can you explain how that comment was racist?

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  29. kowtow (8,446 comments) says:

    Is it racist when a Kennedy is called a Mick?

    Obama is more Kenyan than JFK was ever a Paddy.

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  30. Paulus (2,626 comments) says:

    Why should the Socialists spending other people’s money care.

    Remember it was the Senator from Illinois who persuaded the Socialist Clintons into the Sub-Prime mortgage fiasco, to give mortgages, by law, to those who could not afford the mortgage – but that didn’t matter.
    This was followed up with the banks defaulting with the Financial wreck that US is now in, and cannot get out of, despite printing Billions of dollars
    – who was the Senator from Illinois (Black Chicago really) – O’Bummer

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  31. Redbaiter (8,810 comments) says:

    “Feanor, can you explain how that comment was racist?”

    Of course not.

    He is himself suffering badly from an infection of the Progressive virus.

    Symptoms are wild allegations of cultural rule breaking with out any reference to reason.

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  32. KiwiGreg (3,255 comments) says:

    “parents can keep kids up to 26 on their plans”

    On what planet is a 26 year old a “kid”?

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  33. Sector 7g (240 comments) says:

    DPF had the nerve to criticise and ridicule the Tea Party conservatives during the standoff/shutdown for wanting Obamacare delayed a year and now that it turns out they were 100% correct on the problems it would cause, he posts this? What a joke.

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  34. stephieboy (3,030 comments) says:

    Paulus (2,045) Says:
    November 16th, 2013 at 1:11 p

    Your naturally prescribing America’s privately based medical for NZ.?
    Correct.?
    Am confident that if the Tea baggers and other Rightwing nutbars in Congress and elsewhere genuinely wanted to cooperate and seek compromise then Obamacure would be up and running.
    Am sure that the colour of Obama’s skin is in fact the real cause of the present impasse and for most of the naysayers on this thread.!

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  35. All_on_Red (1,582 comments) says:

    Littlestephieboy
    You really know fuck all. The GOP suggested changes many times and were ignored by the arrogant and incompetent Obama, who flatly refused them.

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  36. Sector 7g (240 comments) says:

    Stephieboy has nothing, just like DPFs hero Obama so he quickly turns to Racism…hahahaha what a fuckwit.
    Quick question loser. How can anyone fix any problems in a democracy when people like you refuse to admit that people have made mistakes?

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  37. Ed Snack (1,872 comments) says:

    It’s become so bad that even the lunatic accusations of racism no longer have any impact at all. It is odd though, because if they believed the accusations, those making them are probably unable to think of a circumstance where it would be “legitimate” for anyone anywhere anytime to criticize a supposedly black man for a performance that even the kindest hearted critic would be pushed to rate above shambolic.

    Even now Obama is using the old “deflect and point the blame elsewhere” tactic. If he really believed in the ACA he would stick to his guns and insist that, lies or no lies, you can’t keep the old policies that you like because it is utterly essential to the whole program that those already insured pay much higher fees for typically worse coverage so that those with chronic existing conditions can be covered at no cost to themselves. How the Obama nation of voters in the US were ever stupid enough to believe that a huge amount of extra cost could be brought into the system but that they personally wouldn’t pay for it…though I suppose in many cases they won’t pay. They probably expect “the rich” to pay for it.

    And as others have pointed out, the web site is not the real issue although it is the visible one. The whole mechanism is rubbish. In one state, only one person managed to get through and attempt to sign up for a policy. He hasn’t paid yet…but all his personal details have already been pirated by criminals.

    Schadenfreude is not the most edifying or noble of feelings, but oh boy, after having been one of those convinced (and saying so) for some time that this would be a complete train wreck, like it or not teh schadenfreude is strong in this one right now.

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  38. stephieboy (3,030 comments) says:

    Sector 7g (222) Says:
    November 16th, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Resort to abuse as much as you like , but tell me has that bogus grass roots movement the Tea Party ever made a mistake .?

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  39. Ed Snack (1,872 comments) says:

    Damn the edit function. I just wanted to add that the deflection tactic is pure Obama, he just wants to be able to blame the insurance industry. “We allowed you to keep your policy after all, and now they won’t let you, it’s THEIR fault”. As mendacious, dishonest, rot ten to the core as ever. Having made the rules, forced the insurance companies to change their policies, change their systems to cope with the new rules, Obama wants them to be able to instantly reverse all that on a whim. And note that in offering these “old” policies, they won’t be legal, in fact they will be strictly illegal offerings, it’s just that Obama promises (!) not to prosecute. So what happens if one of the companies gets used over something on an illegal policy…

    Nope, he’s flailing in desperation, true abilities and character finally being revealed. The Sergeant Schultz of the presidency, “I see nothing!”, and surely the most overrated person ever to copy the Oval Office.

    BTW Obama didn’t manage the Harvard Review, he was the President of the Review, an honorary position that was voted in and had no actual duties. All other Presidents did contribute at least one scholarly article to the Review while in the office, but not Obama. I wonder if we’ll ever get to see his scholastic records.

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  40. stephieboy (3,030 comments) says:

    All_on_Red (648) Says:
    November 16th, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    What changers precisely oh Red one.??

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  41. stephieboy (3,030 comments) says:

    Ed Snack (1,196) Says:
    November 16th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
    He may not of edited the review but he did attend and graduate there and that he never attended Columbia is a bare faced lie.!!!

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  42. All_on_Red (1,582 comments) says:

    Do your own research Littlestephie.

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  43. BlairM (2,339 comments) says:

    I think DPF meant defund NOT defend

    That was assumed, and what I referred to as retarded. If you’re in opposition, and you don’t fight, you may as well not bother showing up at all. The only reason the GOP has Obama and the Donks by the balls is because some of them at least fought so hard in the first place.

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  44. Ed Snack (1,872 comments) says:

    Sure, he attended and graduated, as an equal opportunities student. Even then he had powerful political friends. Possibly the best argument against such programs that I’ve seen.

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  45. kowtow (8,446 comments) says:

    Attended Columbia!Yep but 400 students who did attend couldn’t remember him.

    The excellent Ezra Levant on the Obama Backstory. Columbia at 0326.

    http://www.torontosun.com/videos/news/world/1225519502001/baracks-back-story/1660343687001

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  46. Samuel Smith (276 comments) says:

    NEOLIBS WAKE UP – The election was last year and Obama won. F’n idiots.

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  47. Sonny Blount (1,782 comments) says:

    Samuel Smith (195) Says:
    November 16th, 2013 at 9:06 pm
    NEOLIBS WAKE UP – The election was last year and Obama won. F’n idiots.

    Sam you thick fuck. The Republicans won the congressional elections in 2010 and 2012, which is why Obama is now screwed and can’t get his way anymore.

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  48. Tom Jackson (2,553 comments) says:

    Jennifer Rubin is a well-known nutcase. You couldn’t have found a better source?

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  49. UpandComer (536 comments) says:

    He is struggling. His own party is sick of his errant management, he doesn’t talk to his own congress-members.

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  50. stephieboy (3,030 comments) says:

    Sonny Blount (1,777) Says:
    November 16th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    Typically from a a Republican cult follower you don’t present the full picture.The Democrats won one house of congress the Senate and Obama won the Presidency quite handsomely against predictions . So much so the far right spent a lot of time wiping the proverbial egg from their faces .
    Cheers.!

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  51. stephieboy (3,030 comments) says:

    Sonny Blount (1,777) Says:
    November 16th, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    Typically from a a Republican cult follower you don’t present the full picture.The Democrats won one house of congress the Senate and Obama won the Presidency quite handsomely against predictions . So much so the far right spent a lot of time wiping the proverbial egg from their faces .
    I trust you did also.
    Cheers.!

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  52. thor42 (971 comments) says:

    As of a few days ago, more people had signed a White House petition asking for a Death Star to be built than had signed up for Obamacare.
    I kid you not –
    http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/217279.php

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  53. stephieboy (3,030 comments) says:

    Here is an excellent example of how deception, lies and dirty tricks ( often racially based ) are promoted and disseminated by the US based Rabid Right against President Obama. This is the myth and lie that he never attended Columbia University . His Students ID is often touted as the final and living proof. This forgets the obvious fact that bar code based digital ID’s were not issued in 1981 and did not come into use at Columbia until 1996.
    THe ID is obviously forged.
    By Whom.?

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/studentid.asp

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  54. cha (4,010 comments) says:

    I kid you not –

    Disloyal opposition has a nice ring to it.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/right-wing-cyber-attacks-on-healthcare-gov-website-confirmed?

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  55. stephieboy (3,030 comments) says:

    Cutting through the crap about Obamacare…

    http://democurmudgeon.blogspot.co.nz/2013/11/cutting-through-right-wing-crap-about.html

    That crap is at the heart of extreme right based GOP Lunacy.!

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