She did this superbly. She has a great manner – not forced or false or glib – and comes over as genuine, down-to-earth but sharp as a tack. I can hear them for months howling “yeah nah” as Labour try to counter it.
Not much chance after Mallard’s pitiful and ridiculous performance recalling the Speaker so he could change his vote even though his leaders had come to an agreement. He looked old and ill and sounded confused and desperate. What a waste of talent – which he undoubtedly had once but has thrown away. Time he joined Winston!
It’s always interesting how others perceive calls to arms. Paula’s not talking to me, she is talking to National supporters, that’s obvious. However, I thought this was a unspectacular speech and have been surprised by its coverage.
This thread provides a very interesting “compare and contrast..” between the reaction of the nasty lefties and the rest….Williams and bc, rather than give even grudging acknowledgement to a very good speech try and say it was crap…Jackson has a go at her dress (couldn’t do her size, as she has clearly lost weight)
Quite different when the positions are reversed…I recall a screamingly funny speech by Darren Hughes when the Nats forgot to record an objection, and we had an hour’s debate on Stephen Joyce’s academic record – which is not stellar. Rather than rush out of the chamber to avoid embarrassment, IIRC Joyce stayed for the ribbing, or at least a substantial part of it. Many of the Nats openly laughed at particular witticisms being made at a senior Cabinet Minister’s expense…
I recall well my answer to the question “who is the NZ political figure you most admire, and why” when I was being considered for ACT. My answer was Norman Kirk, for standing up to the French in 1974. I still got selected. If the political positions were reversed, and I had told a Labour Selection Committee “Keith Holyoake” in answer to the same question, I probably would have bee shot then and there.
This thread provides a very interesting “compare and contrast..” between the reaction of the nasty lefties and the rest
You crack me up immensely.
It would take me less than 30 seconds to find 50 disparaging and personal definitions of “unliked” “left-wing” politicians on KB posts and a couple of minutes for ones made against, oh, I don’t know, maybe one of Turei’s Youtube House clips here? Usually they’re of much high “calibre” than “she’s wearing curtains”
I believe, if you think about it for more than 20 seconds, that might …actually… be Tom’s point. What’s that sound? Woooooosssshhh…
Your fundamental belief that human beings are different animals depending on what “party they vote for” is interesting to say the least.
itswhatever: ….And I stand by that belief. Here’s just a few pieces of evidence for that view.
Ask yourself how difficult it is to get banned here as compared to the Standard, where you almost certainly also comment. DPF’s list of banned commenter’s – after 10 years – could probably be counted on less than two hands… say something even mildly critical of “your” Party (you seem to have a few clues so I assume you dont vote Green) over there and an instant ban is yours, sometimes permanently.
Second…I used to regularly attend “Summer Sounds”, a symposium run by the ….eccentric ….Agnes-Mary Brooke as she then was. Amy would be considerably to the right of me and most people in ACT. A speaker one year -not a very good one – was Clayton Cosgrove (this was well before my brief political career, so I had no idea who he was). His speech was received by the mostly right wing audience politely, with one or two searching but respectful questions, and polite applause at the end. How do you think – say – Roger Kerr would have been treated if he spoke to the CTU?
Lastly, look at the vicious and nasty reaction by unionist hack MP Darien Fenton when the Mad Butcher dared to say he thought Key was doing a good job. Do you really believe that would have been the reaction if the players and the polarities were reversed?
Good start. You defend your point of view about deliberate nastiness by deliberately misspelling a handle to denegrate. Whatca tryna do? Or does your subconcious just let you get away with that without you realising why you do it?
Ask yourself how difficult it is to get banned here as compared to the Standard…
Go for it, expand and extrapolate out to your general hate of left, blah blah blah.
Your original post was about the three commentors who put Paula down. I can find six others who put Turei down, or Green man-child (forget his name sorry) or whomever.
Nastiness, smarstiness, all human beings are the same, they don’t divide themselves neatly along a line of “we’re are the good, noble and moral right” and “they are the disgusting deprived left”
I wouldnt say for a moment that “all righties are nice people and all lefties are assholes”…that would be very silly, and whatever else I might be, stupid isn’t one of them. Although a certain intended prank 30 years ago well qualifies for the adjective “stupid”…
You sidestepped the question about banning at the Standard as compared to here…you KNOW that it is very difficult to get banned here, and extremely easy to get banned there…if you DON’T actually know – or at least acknowledge – that, there there is absolutely no point my debating with you…
“Props to you”?? What does that mean? I am 55 years old and use, like, punctuation and everything. Was it a reference to getting “dead baby” in before you did? If so, yes, I have got very very tired of that in response to just about any argument I make…about anything…
Interesting self justification. But you know the facts and I don’t, you’ve done your dues so all good.
You sidestepped the question about banning at the Standard as compared to here
Never been there, never intend to, don’t really care.
Your comment was that the left were nasty for their personal comments, not being banned, or shouted at or whatever. We could bang on all day about why those other things are and it boils down to “people aren’t radically different based on policitical belief”
So, back to your original comment. There’s three times as bad on similar comments for Turei or Gareth Huges in similar circumstances and much worse for all other posts. Jacinda = Horse ring any bells for you? Things that you’d do to Jacinda the Horse sound familar?
C’mon mate, at least acknowledge me here, otherwise you’re just doing *exactly* what you slagged the “dirty left” down for.
“Props to you”?? What does that mean? I am 55 years old and use, like, punctuation and everything.
Sorry. I was giving you a complement for throwing in a nice, quick, acknowledgement of a mistake and a self deprecating call. I don’t believe punctuation was anything to do with that and there’s nothing wrong with my English.
Since then, you’ve mentioned the baby thing three times. Don’t pin that on me; you started it.
There’s a couple of grammatical errors and some “brain to page” misflowing sentences. I admit I edited in the semi-colon for a prior comma. Meh. It’s a blog, not the editorial of the NY Times. I’m sure our friend can tell I took some small degree of pride in my communication and that I’m not an OMG-swizzle-my-wizzle-fly-by-night-tweenie talkin to some fella who might have been in gummamint. I mean, LMAO, STFU!