Two more National MPs retire

November 7th, 2013 at 2:05 pm by David Farrar

Waimakariri MP and Ohariu based List MP have both announced today they will retire from Parliament at the next election.

Kate deserves our thanks for taking Waimakariri off Clayton Cosgrove, and hopefully her successor can keep it. She also did some very good work in her former portfolios such as industrial relations.

Katrina has been a very hard working local MP in Wellington, and had to endure several campaigns against Charles Chauvel, which could get pretty nasty. She’s also well respected for her work last term as a select committee chair.

Kate entered Parliament in 2005 and Katrina in 2007. Their decisions to retire show that is serious about continual renewal, and this is a real contrast to Labour where they have their MPs who entered Parliament in the 1980s still insisting they will never ever retire.

Renewal offers opportunities for National, but also challenges. Obviously both Kate and Katrina and female, and National needs to be pro-active about recruiting and supporting talented women to stand for Parliament. I don’t mean there should be quotas or guarantees of selections etc. I mean that National will benefit from having as many great candidate to choose from as possible – but you can’t just wait for people to come forward – you need to also go out and find them.

So far six National MPs have said they will retire in 2014 and rumour has it there could be anywhere from another one to six. These are not retirements because they think National will lose (the current public polls have been pretty good for National), but because they are accepting that you come in, make a good contribution, and then give someone else a turn.

A significant factor in whether National gets further terms will be its ability to rejuvenate. It is generally harder to do it in Government, than in Opposition. The fact that Labour appears to be doing almost no rejuvenation this election, and National is doing a significant amount, is encouraging.

 

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29 Responses to “Two more National MPs retire”

  1. scrubone (3,099 comments) says:

    Bollocks.

    National also did a lot of rejuvenation before it was kicked out last time, while Labour has had the same tired lineup for years.

    It didn’t help then, it’s hard to see why this time should be any different.

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  2. Manolo (13,839 comments) says:

    How on earth Shanks got there is a mystery in the first place, and an indictment on National’s selection process.
    If you have any doubts, just listen to her.

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  3. Fisiani (1,040 comments) says:

    Even more encouraging for National is the crop of fresh and very promising abundance of talent wanting to take the place of the retiring members. There is great interest in standing for National to make sure that the great progress taking place in every aspect of society continues under the most successful government in New Zealand history.

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  4. Samuel Smith (276 comments) says:

    “These are not retirements because they think National will lose”

    Yeah Right.

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  5. Changeiscoming (190 comments) says:

    Good to see Kate go as she voted for same sex marriage, sad about Katrina as she voted against it. Both vacancies give the Conservatives possibilities.

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  6. mikemikemikemike (325 comments) says:

    Continual renewal??

    Bill English
    John Banks anyone? (I know ACT now, but lets be honest)
    Gerry Brownlee
    Tony Ryall
    Nick Smith
    Maurice Williamson
    Anne Tolley

    All hanging on like the leeches they are. Maybe not as bad as some of the other old-timers. But all of them have probably been around 10 years too long. All of them are as guilty as dole bludgers for being on the public purse for far too long.

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  7. gazzmaniac (2,307 comments) says:

    I’ve said it before – people don’t give two shits about who makes up the numbers. You will be lucky to find anyone outside Wellington who knows the names of more than the top 5 National MPs. I will truly believe that National is all about rejuvination when JK announces his successor prior to the 2017 election.

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  8. gazzmaniac (2,307 comments) says:

    mikemikemikemike – Goff has been there since 1981, and Mallard since 1984 I think.
    English came in 1990. All have probably been there long enough, but 32 years is a lot longer than 23.

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  9. Manolo (13,839 comments) says:

    For the sake of true rejuvenation Labour Lite should retire the parasitical Maurice Williamson (the same of passport-validity infamy), whose snout has been stuck on the trough far too long.

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  10. mikemikemikemike (325 comments) says:

    @Gazz – I concur if the Nat boys are Leeches, the Labour ones are Barnacles….but the point remains, anyone who holds a portfolio of any importance has been in the Party for many years. Other than Paula B. who is I think is doing a pretty good job.

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  11. gazzmaniac (2,307 comments) says:

    JK hasn’t been there that long. I think he got into parliament in 2002.

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  12. Nigel Kearney (1,019 comments) says:

    Thank god Shanks is going. Hopefully they stand someone who can beat Dunne which should not be that hard with a real candidate. I actually had to hold my nose and vote for Chauvel last time once it became clear that Shanks would be a distant third.

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  13. lastmanstanding (1,297 comments) says:

    I have long advocated that in both the Parliament Local Government and public listed companies there should be a limit of 3 by 3 year terms. If you haven’t achieved in 9 years then you wont and I want people who will work their arses off on my behalf for 9 years so they need a good rest after that.
    I am willing to pay all the above handsomely but NO when they just sit on their sorry arses collecting fat fees for SFA

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  14. Nick R (507 comments) says:

    I reckon National needs to work harder at this than Labour. It’s unlikely they will win any additional MPs next election – if anything they will probably lose a few. Labour will be expecting to pick up seats. If they do, they will get new blood even if nobody retires. But National can only rejuvenate through retiring existing MPs.

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  15. dime (9,980 comments) says:

    Dime v Dunne? Then again, id have to spend some time in that shit hole electorate?

    Dime may be best suited to the list.

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  16. Alan (1,087 comments) says:

    One has been, one never was.

    Wilkinson got sacked as a minister, Shanks was clearly given the nod that she was never going to be promoted. Makes sense to pursue a proper career

    Frankly I don’t blame either of them, being a backbench MP looks to be a thankless task, with long hours, public scrutiny for only $140k a year.

    You’d have to be a mug or have no prospect of a private sector career to do it (like most labour mps)

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  17. gazzmaniac (2,307 comments) says:

    I’d be a back bencher for $140k.

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  18. liarbors a joke (1,069 comments) says:

    Wilkinson..waste of space , hopeless mp..and who dresses her ?

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  19. wiseowl (899 comments) says:

    Smith and Williamson next please.

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  20. Viking2 (11,491 comments) says:

    Kate deserves our thanks for taking Waimakariri off Clayton Cosgrove, and hopefully her successor can keep it.

    She also did some very good work in her former portfolios such as industrial relations.

    What are you taking for your muscle stress. It obviously affects you mind.
    Wilkinson was hopeless at this.
    Mind you nothing has changed since.

    So much to do and so little understanding of what needs to be done. The only Minster that National have ever had that got to grips with employment law was Birch, and he went over board.
    Bolger was fucking useless.

    In fact one of the best was Stan Roger. ex PSA.

    Until some Nat has the guts to change the employment laws as they relate to young people they remain as bad as the people they associate with i.e. Labour Politicans and Union scum.

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  21. bc (1,367 comments) says:

    All these retirements, yet Parata stays.
    What the Hekia ?!

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  22. gazzmaniac (2,307 comments) says:

    Who the heck is Hekia?

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  23. Daigotsu (459 comments) says:

    The problem is that this is just churn. Replace the low performing old-timers, sure (although frankly, 2007 intake isn’t that long, and I say that as someone in favour of term limits), but does it really matter if they are replaced with low performing new-comers? Most of National’s ‘fresh new faces’ have dived straight into obscurity. The best you can say about Sam Lotu-Iiga or Johnathan Young is that they are new – and the new and useless replacing the old and useless isn’t much good.

    Frankly I think fetishising ‘fresh faces’ is kind of stupid. Renewal is a means, not an end. A means to getting competent, hard working MPs. I don’t think National is there yet. (Of course neither is Labour in case someone mistake me for a redbaiter style progressive)

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  24. gazzmaniac (2,307 comments) says:

    Sam Lotu-Iiga is quite well known in his community. As is Colin King (from Marlborough), and many of the newer MPs.

    I have no idea who Johnathan Young is. Actually there are lots who are pretty invisible, but Sam Lotu Iiga isn’t one of them.

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  25. bc (1,367 comments) says:

    Don’t worry gazzmaniac, it is perfectly understandable that you haven’t heard of the elusive Hekia.

    Despite being a cabinet Minister holding an important portfolio National hide her away. (She is allowed out when a token Maori female is required, e.g. Waitangi Day). Why is this?

    1) Responsible for National’s biggest drop in poll ratings when parents rebelled against her wanting to increase class sizes.
    2) Is only capable of saying one sentence – variations of a 1 in 5 “statistic” (in a very loose definition of the word statistic).
    3) Incapable of getting along with her staff, causes resignations which requires the taxpayer picking up the tab to pay them off quietly.
    4) Makes decisions which get overturned by the courts because she can’t follow due process.

    That Hekia!

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  26. Tauhei Notts (1,724 comments) says:

    Six going.
    Will Tisch be the seventh?

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  27. Daigotsu (459 comments) says:

    OK, maybe I have underestimated Sam. In my defense a lot of people said he was going to be a superstar so maybe I am holding him to an unrealistically high standard. And as I’m not from his hood I can’t judge him on his support in the community.

    But the larger point stands, I think

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  28. s.russell (1,642 comments) says:

    While I think term limits would be a big mistake, I agree with Lastmanstanding that 9 years is enough to demonstrate your mettle. If you have not risen to ministerial rank or Oppo equivalent by then it is time to go.
    National had a big intake in 2005 so it makes sense that there are lots of retirements now. There should be more to come.
    But it is unfair to sneer at these people. The great majority are good people who have worked hard to do good for the country to the best of their ability and deserve thanks for that. Their only sin is that they are only in the top 0.1% of Kiwis rather than the top 0.02%.

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  29. Neil (588 comments) says:

    I am surprised that many people in this blog cannot identify who current MP’s are. It confirms to me how ignorant the population is.
    I am a political junkie and there are obviously plenty more like me. Many of the comments on this current blog are quite ignorant.
    To see people criticise Kate Wilkinson’s dress sense says much about that persons political judgement. Katrina Shanks in my perception always looks totally bored in the house. She is doing the right thing !
    Labour’s regeneration is going well with one person,Ross Robertson, pulling out!!!!!.
    Goff, since 1981,except for 1990-1993 and Mallard much the same. These people have no future but they seem frightened to leave “home” into the brave new world

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