Dom Post on living wage

December 19th, 2013 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

The Dom Post editorial:

The stated aim of Wellington City Council’s policy is to reduce poverty and lift workplace morale and productivity. If only life were that simple.

It is not. Poverty can no more be eliminated at the stroke of a pen than world peace can be delivered by a beauty contestant wishing for it.

Mayor Celia Wade-Brown’s council is not reducing poverty. It is simply taking money from one group of citizens – ratepayers – and giving it to another much smaller group – the 450 council staff who presently earn less than $18.40 an hour.

Exactly.

The gesture would be admirable if councillors were funding the $750,000 cost out of their own salaries, but they are not. It is easier to be generous with other people’s money than one’s own.

Even worse, at least one Councillor who voted for the living wage, refuses to implement it in his own business. He won’t pay it himself, but will vote to force ratepayers to do so. He is of course a member of the Labour Party.

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31 Responses to “Dom Post on living wage”

  1. Bogusnews (474 comments) says:

    Dare I say it, isn’t it bloody typical.

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  2. burt (8,275 comments) says:

    Even worse, at least one Councillor who voted for the living wage, refuses to implement it in his own business. He won’t pay it himself, but will vote to force ratepayers to do so. He is of course a member of the Labour Party.

    Name and shame so we can all boycott his business….

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  3. Zapper (1,021 comments) says:

    In the comments on the article it says Mark Peck, which may or may not be true.

    Since 2009 he has run a cafe “Little Peckish” in central Wellington with his wife Margaret. (wikipedia)

    Maybe a rent a crowd should picket his business*?

    *Only joking, we are not the disgusting left

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  4. Rich Prick (1,705 comments) says:

    Well, some church minister somewhere up the Valley has achieved more for those workers than their unions ever did. And “child poverty” is all gone now too. Great, fantastic. Sarc off.

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  5. Nigel Kearney (1,019 comments) says:

    Saying that it is a male in the Labour party who also runs a business does narrow it down quite a lot though. Surprising that there is even one councillor who qualifies.

    You do have to admire the progaganda skills of the left though. They have defined ‘poverty’ in a way that is unrelated to standard of living and got media and everyone else to blindly accept that definition. Probably Bob Jones is counted in the poverty statistics now. And then this ‘living wage’ that has nothing to do with the level of wages that are necessary to live on, and people are lapping that up as well.

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  6. wikiriwhis business (4,019 comments) says:

    ‘Maybe a rent a crowd should picket his business*?’

    don’t forget J Keys blatant untruth about oil protestors being a rent a crowd.

    That was an obvious see through and J Key hasn’t the intelligence to comprehend that.

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  7. Zapper (1,021 comments) says:

    wiki

    WTF has that got to do with what I posted? On that though, I completely agree with the PM.

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  8. Ed Snack (1,883 comments) says:

    Wiki, but they were ! Mostly paid organizers to protest, plus the usual useful idiots. The same people turn up at all the protests.

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  9. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Email Mark Peck and ask him why its fine to use taxpayer dollars to pay council staff but he won’t use some of his council salary to pay his cafe staff.

    Why Mark? If its such a grand idea us your own fucking money.

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  10. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Its no secret its Mark Peck , DPF has just abbreviated his post. Keeping Stock has the whole thing on his blog.

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  11. mikemikemikemike (325 comments) says:

    Maybe a rent a crowd should picket his business*?

    *Only joking, we are not the disgusting left
    – Bullshit – WO and his mates are chasing LB around shouting shame and hurling abuse. The vitriol coming from the right calling for the Mayor (who I think should go) to resign is as vile and as repugnant as anything we see from the left.

    Stone and glass houses…not a good mix.

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  12. Zapper (1,021 comments) says:

    While I agree there are better ways to express the opinion about the mayor, they are ratepayers questioning an official. If they were outside his private home or business then it would be comparable.

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  13. wikiriwhis business (4,019 comments) says:

    ‘Wiki, but they were ! Mostly paid organizers to protest, plus the usual useful idiots. The same people turn up at all the protests.’

    OK, I’ll stand corrected. Esp cause I just watched a vid with homeless bragging of spending hundreds on synthetic cannabis while protesting poverty.

    Thier benefits will be cut next week I should think.

    Utter foolishness admitting on national news spending your benefit on cannabis just cause its synthetic and legal.

    Those boys obviously don’t need food in their bellies and now they’ll find food harder to come by I should think.

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  14. Elaycee (4,393 comments) says:

    Click on DPF’s link to the DomPost Editorial – it states:

    Newly-elected councillor Mark Peck, one of those who voted for the increase, has already said he will not be offering it to the staff who work in his Wellington cafe. There is a good reason for that. His business cannot afford the cost. If he puts up wages, he will have to put up prices, and if he puts up prices, his customers will desert him for less expensive eateries. Even if, by some miracle, all the cafe owners in the capital could be persuaded to introduce the living wage at the same time, the effect would still be deleterious

    Peck is simply another left wing trougher who says “Do as I say” rather than “Do what I do”…

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  15. wikiriwhis business (4,019 comments) says:

    ‘If he puts up wages, he will have to put up prices, and if he puts up prices, his customers will desert him for less expensive eateries’

    But let’s not forget customers are happy to support eateries by paying extra tarriffs on holidays.

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  16. Manolo (13,837 comments) says:

    I do not, wiki. I avoid any restaurant which imposes a surchage. Always.

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  17. sHr0oMaN (26 comments) says:

    Poverty will never be “eradicated” as long as the definition thereof is a relative measure e.g. xx% of the median wage. I see people all around me living in “poverty” because they make economic choices that make them poorer. Yet they lead lives that the truly poor in third world countries would envy.

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  18. Huevon (222 comments) says:

    Labour party man runs a cafe business! What is he doing wasting his time on a municipal council? This man can speak the language of the hated Tories – profits, margins, paperwork and, you know, stuff. Stand aside Russell Norman. Mark Peck *is* New Zealand’s next Minister of Finance.

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  19. burt (8,275 comments) says:

    Mr Peck, supporting the living wage as long as it’s not hurting the profits he personally makes in his own business. What a complete wanker lefty.

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  20. burt (8,275 comments) says:

    sHr0oMaN

    Yet they lead lives that the truly poor in third world countries would envy.

    This is a point that Gareth Morgan use to make quite succinctly – before he decided that an all out war on cats was more important than examining the context of the various claims about poverty in NZ.

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  21. Yoza (1,879 comments) says:

    $750.000 is less than .25% of the WCC budget which is expected to have a $36 million operating surplus this year.

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  22. duggledog (1,559 comments) says:

    Then in that case Yoza they can lower the f***ing rates burden

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  23. PaulP (150 comments) says:

    By the same logic I assume Mr Peck will be happy when the council has to put its “prices” (ie: rates) up.

    Shame he is obviously too blinded by ideology to see the stupidity of his comments.

    Unfortunately for Mr Peck the council’s “customers” (ie: ratepayers) may do exactly what he is concerned about in his business and go to another supplier such as Auckland.

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  24. adze (2,126 comments) says:

    Newly-elected councillor Mark Peck, one of those who voted for the increase, has already said he will not be offering it to the staff who work in his Wellington cafe. There is a good reason for that. His business cannot afford the cost. If he puts up wages, he will have to put up prices, and if he puts up prices, his customers will desert him for less expensive eateries.

    So, the survival of his business is more important than offering a “living wage”. Sounds like he should be a member of the National Party, not the Labour Party. What a fucking hypocrite.

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  25. Newbie (50 comments) says:

    Some time ago DPF put up a guest post who wrote about a possible implication of the living wage – that the average wage will go up and thus increase superanuation which is based on 65% of the average wage. Consequently, I think the article said or other, if that happens, it may lead to the need to find more money to fund the superanuation.

    Is that still the case?

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  26. freemark (581 comments) says:

    Here is something I posted in a Waiheke FB group. ross69 who is in the group was strangely silent, despite having much to say about John & Bill “selling assets to their rich mates’ and other lefty slogans. “Here is head’s up for you all. I’ll bet there is an article out soon about the massively growing numbers of people queuing for food/gifts at City Mission. Trouble is, I have seen and heard families in Mangere Bridge who are not in need at all, but have been encouraged to go along to make up the numbers. Something will also come out in the wash soon that more than a few queen st beggars are being induced to be there by groups whose agenda is to highlight “massive increasing poverty” Watch this space”

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  27. PaulP (150 comments) says:

    Yoza that’s a $36m “operating surplus”. They are then spending that plus lots more on capital expenditure. Nothing like spending more than you earn – it always works out so well in the end eh!

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  28. infused (656 comments) says:

    I’ve actually eaten there. No more.

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  29. OneTrack (3,114 comments) says:

    “Newly-elected councillor Mark Peck, one of those who voted for the increase, has already said he will not be offering it to the staff who work in his Wellington cafe. There is a good reason for that. His business cannot afford the cost. If he puts up wages, he will have to put up prices, and if he puts up prices, his customers will desert him for less expensive eateries.”

    Wonder what he will say when the incoming Labour/Green/Mana hydra comes in and regulates that he must pay all his single teenage/twenties employees the reverends wage so he has to put his prices up, and, as he expects, he goes out of business. Nevermind, they will probably put the unemployment benefit up too. Thats nice.

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  30. Paulus (2,632 comments) says:

    What about the current staff on $18.40 an hour and above – they will want continuation of the differential and will of course seek to remain.
    They will not let the newbys at $18.40 retain parity with them.
    They will want proportional increases too.
    Stupid Socialist ideas – no common sense.
    Pay everybody $100 per hour – easy.

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  31. burt (8,275 comments) says:

    Paulus

    Why stop at $100/hour. If we make it $50m/Hour then people only need to work 1 hour in their life time and we will have full employment.

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