TVNZ loses BSA case re Colin Craig

December 17th, 2013 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

has been ordered to broadcast an apology to Conservative Party leader over an item it ran on Seven Sharp.

The Broadcasting Standards Authority says an item from April 24 – a short skit “lampooning” Mr Craig over his threat of defamation against a satirical website – was “childish and unfair”.

The says while it recognises the value of satire and free speech, the found that the comments about his personal character and attributes went too far.

It says Mr Craig was given no opportunity to defend himself.

Seven Sharp is meant to be a current affairs programme. You can probably get away with what they did on 7 Days, but not on Seven Sharp.

The key paragraph is:

However, Mr Mulligan’s remarks, “I think Colin Craig is a nutcase; I feel Colin Craig is a doofus; I believe Colin Craig is a smarmy rich prick”, had no bearing on Colin Craig’s political views. These comments offered no constructive comment on the underlying issues, but were simply personal abuse masquerading as satire. The comments, combined with Ms Mau’s introductory statement that “most of us would like to have a go at Colin Craig”, the concluding remarks from Ms Mau and Mr Boyed about Colin Craig lacking a sense of humour, and the laughter from all three presenters, turned the item into a sustained personal attack against Colin Craig that was childish and unfair, in circumstances where he had no chance to defend himself.

Note Colin Craig was not one of the four complainants.

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60 Responses to “TVNZ loses BSA case re Colin Craig”

  1. Sponge (108 comments) says:

    He may not have been a complainant but apparently his daddy was.

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  2. Manolo (12,637 comments) says:

    How long before Seven Sharp gets the axe?
    Who watches it and what’s the attraction?

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  3. OneTrack (1,977 comments) says:

    “Who watches it and what’s the attraction?”

    I think 11 year old kids like it for the level of humour.

    “Seven Sharp is meant to be a current affairs programme. ” Who really believes that?

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  4. Alan (915 comments) says:

    I find Ms HDPA strangely attractive, otherwise the show is a pile of crap.

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  5. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11173444

    manolo

    Colin Hogg just wrote its haere ra to Seven Sharp anyway so Craig gets the last laugh, hope they apologise smartish

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  6. Longknives (4,048 comments) says:

    I have seen the show a handful of times- Haven’t seen a ‘straight’ person on it yet! Seems to me just a huge propaganda exercise for the Gay and Lesbian community….

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  7. Huevon (102 comments) says:

    Colin Craig should drop the nice guy act and go full-throated conservative. The liberal media and bien pensant establishment hate him anyway. What has he got to lose?

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  8. deadrightkev (180 comments) says:

    Huevon

    Its not an act, unfortunately.

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  9. Manolo (12,637 comments) says:

    With the Rainbow brigade so active at TVNZ, it wouldn’t surprise if the delicate Ginga Hughes is offered a job as “unbiased” political commentator.

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  10. Nigel Kearney (747 comments) says:

    The BSA says while it recognises the value of satire and free speech, the BSA found that the comments about his personal character and attributes went too far.

    It’s not free speech if the government decides when you have gone too far. Anyway there is no line separating humour and abuse. They can exist together. Satire combined with personal abuse can be funny even if this wasn’t. For example, what McPhail and Gadsby did to Muldoon on TV repeatedly for years, even to the extent of mocking his physical problems. Childish, unfair, giving him no chance to respond, and absolutely hilarious.

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  11. Weihana (4,475 comments) says:

    The BSA says while it recognises the value of satire and free speech, the BSA found that the comments about his personal character and attributes went too far.

    It says Mr Craig was given no opportunity to defend himself.

    Of course he has the opportunity to defend himself. He can release a press statement. He can post on a blog. He can write a letter to the editor. He can post something to Facebook. He can tweet.

    If someone was defamed or if speech was otherwise harmful towards someone’s legitimate rights then it has gone “too far”. It doesn’t go “too far” because someone decides that there is no value in that speech because it is “childish” or that the speech is offensive.

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  12. Peter (1,471 comments) says:

    I wouldn’t worry too much. It’s not as if anyone over 10 years old watches 7Sharp.

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  13. Tom Jackson (2,261 comments) says:

    “I think Colin Craig is a nutcase; I feel Colin Craig is a doofus; I believe Colin Craig is a smarmy rich prick”,

    All those claims are true with the possible exception of the smarm.

    Doubts moon landings = lunatic (where did the rocks come from, Colin?)

    Publicly expresses doubts about moon landings = doofus.

    7Sharp sucks, but they were right here.

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  14. RRM (8,994 comments) says:

    I’m rapidly forming the view that Kolun Cwaig’s conservative fanboys are a lot thinner-skinned, more defensive and venal than Kolun himself… :-)

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  15. nasska (9,549 comments) says:

    …..”I’m rapidly forming the view that Kolun Cwaig’s conservative fanboys are a lot thinner-skinned, more defensive and venal than Kolun himself”…..

    And that is skin at its very thinnest considering that the leader of the CCCP threatened legal action against a “The Civilian” over a piece of satire earlier this year.

    Ref: http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/colin-craig-threatens-legal-action-against-the-civilian/

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  16. OneTrack (1,977 comments) says:

    “And that is skin at its very thinnest considering that the leader of the CCCP threatened legal action against a “The Civilian” over a piece of satire earlier this year.”

    That’s because Colin Craig is more worried about a blog than he is about a children’s program like 7-Sharp.

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  17. Akaroa (487 comments) says:

    Nigel Kearney (608 comments) at 3.32 posted, inter alia, “…….For example, what McPhail and Gadsby did to Muldoon on TV repeatedly for years, even to the extent of mocking his physical problems. Childish, unfair, giving him no chance to respond, and absolutely hilarious.”

    No Nigel! Not ‘absolutely hilarious’ as you put it. Rather: Vicious, demeaning (of McPhail and Gaddesby), nasty, mean-minded and cowardly.

    I used to enjoy McPhail and Gadsby before that disgusting display, but I never felt the same about them or their ‘entertainment’ again after those bottom-of-the-barrel cheap shots.

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  18. scrubone (2,971 comments) says:

    And that is skin at its very thinnest considering that the leader of the CCCP threatened legal action against a “The Civilian” over a piece of satire earlier this year.

    Clearly you’re still miffed at his (rather successful) publicity stunt – so who’s got the thinner skin?

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  19. Akaroa (487 comments) says:

    I’ve read the rest of the comments on this thread since posting the above metaphorical slap on the wrist for Nigel Kearney.

    To all the seasoned would-be political gurus and commentators on this medium who are falling over themselves to write off Colin Craig, I’d just say you may be in for a bit of a surprise come next polling day.

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  20. nasska (9,549 comments) says:

    ….”his (rather successful) publicity stunt”….

    That depends on interpretation….to those who accord Messiah-like status to the great white hope who will lead NZ back to the 50′s any publicity is probably good publicity.

    To the less addled it comes across as an example of a petty minded man using his not inconsiderable wealth to squash dissent.

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  21. Shunda barunda (2,964 comments) says:

    One year without state television and I don’t regret a single effing day of it. I am proud to say I have never watched (or seen an advertisement for) a single episode of “Seven Sharp”.

    We collectively allow our opinions to be swayed by airheads and hacks and then wonder why fuckwits like Hone Harawira are on the public teat.

    Turn it off, end their influence, and lets get on with building a better place to live for our kids that isn’t determined by the cultural elite and their mouthpieces.

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  22. BeaB (1,958 comments) says:

    And Colin Craig keeps making news and soon everyone will know his name. Crazy like a fox.

    “Childish and unfair” – sums up much of our media these days and sure,y the death knell for this lame show.

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  23. adze (1,695 comments) says:

    Fair decision, even if it’s predictable that (being a potential lifeline for National) the media is going to go after Craig and his party on a daily basis from now until after the next election.

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  24. Bob R (1,253 comments) says:

    Seven Sharp has made me a Campbell Live viewer.

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  25. bringbackdemocracy (350 comments) says:

    Most primary schools could produce better quality TV than the state subsidised trash called seven (required IQ) sharp.
    The “childish” label by the BSA is an accurate description of their inadequate program

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  26. adze (1,695 comments) says:

    @Nigel Kearney
    “…For example, what McPhail and Gadsby did to Muldoon on TV repeatedly for years…”

    Ah yes, the well known McPhail and Gadsby comedy current affairs show.

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  27. nasska (9,549 comments) says:

    …..”it’s predictable that (being a potential lifeline for National”….

    A lifeline that wouldn’t be needed if the puerile God afflicted regressives weren’t hurling their tiny toys all over the electorate in a fit of pique over gay marriage. They will split the vote of the Right & gift the country to the socialists rather than get their pointed noses out of other peoples’ lives.

    I hope that when Wellington becomes South Pyongyang they will have the grace to accept responsibility.

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  28. adze (1,695 comments) says:

    nasska, what will bring Dear Leader to Wellington is not a few religious nutters opposing gay marriage, it is a lot of nutters voting for the greens.

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  29. Bob R (1,253 comments) says:

    Anyone who arouses that level of hatred from progressive white media commentaters like Mau and Mulligan can’t be too bad. :)

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  30. duggledog (1,116 comments) says:

    Manolo

    Seven Sharp is the result of over thinking and focus groups, executed by elderly people desperate to hang on till they can retire as you would expect from what is still a government department, riddled with leftys. The word is, the new CEO who you won’t have heard of, has his fingerprints all over it. Don’t hold your breath waiting for one of NZ’s useless journos to dig that deep though.

    Seven Sharp is a complete and utter turd. Chogg is right it has to go.

    Regarding the Colin Craig piece, I saw that – it was embarrassing to watch through my fingers, they were just crapping on him. At least Campbell Live’s hideous attack dog had the decency to partially cover her obvious contempt for him by just watching him shop in Pak & Save and ask him leading questions that were designed to make him look like a fool (which he did by being… less than urbane).

    Satire should be clever enough to make the target a little uncomfortable but the target should be able to see it for what it is – and take it on the chin accordingly. I think good satire should be a gentlemanly sport with each ‘side’ cognisant of each other as humans. Don’t push too hard, and don’t push back too hard.

    Good fucken job they got the BSA ruling against them. Seven Sharp is perhaps the shittest shitter in a long history of shitters

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  31. nasska (9,549 comments) says:

    adze

    Whether we like it or not NZ is slipping further to the left politically. The role of political parties (contrary to the view of Baity & a few other fruitloops) is not to change but represent the electorate. There simply isn’t a hard right worth more than a very few percentage points left in the country.

    To retain power National will be forced to move even further left to capture more of the middle ground from the Lab/ Greens/Rats & Mice. The backers of the CCCP could find that their grandstanding, rather than progressing a conservative view, actually has the opposite effect.

    They are playing for high stakes & it will backfire one way or the other.

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  32. duggledog (1,116 comments) says:

    Nasska ‘The role of political parties (contrary to the view of Baity & a few other fruitloops) is not to change but represent the electorate’.

    I’ve always thought that, but slightly differently; governments are reactive not proactive. In other words you get what you vote for. New Zealanders are so, so fast asleep and uninterested in anything political – local or central – that the country will be taken away from them by stealth, long (or maybe not so long!) term.

    I’ve met so many young Asian thrusters (sorry but there’s no better word for it for these business men & women) who have basically said, f*** this is just going to be too easy’

    We just continue to vote for socialist governments to get the things we just expect because we’ve always had them, and to hell with how it happens (60 billion plus now).

    CCCP might crash and burn, Craig has behaved like an intellectual pygmy. All NZ needs is a new party with a Bob Jones type leader who is media savvy and has the intellect to take on and destroy the MSM. And with simple policies – there’s about five basic planks shit loads of people want – and they’d piss in.

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  33. nasska (9,549 comments) says:

    duggledog

    ….”governments are reactive not proactive.”….

    You phrased it better than I but that’s exactly what I was getting at.

    If we are to change direction we need a circuit breaker but Mr Craig ain’t it. Despite the wishes of God’s little helpers NZ is not in a hurry to embrace politics based on religion…..any hopes they had of that evaporated when Graham Capill’s shenanigans were uncovered.

    For the present I’ll settle for competent economic management & National are streets ahead of their closest rivals.

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  34. Scott (1,614 comments) says:

    Really good decision. I have noticed for a while that TVNZ people think its ok to abuse Colin Craig. I noticed the young fellow on the youth channel that has just been axed would out of nowhere say rude things about Mr Craig.

    Basically TVNZ is a leftist channel full of left wing secular types who can’t stand traditional moral values. Seven sharp is hopelessly leftist and secular. I am amzed at the panellists they think represent the ordinary New Zealander- a lesbian, a homosexual and a metrosexual.

    Colin Craig is a straightforward normal NZer and a good guy to boot. TVNZ should give him a break.

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  35. iMP (2,154 comments) says:

    OH SHOCK SURPRISE Alison Mau has “decided” to leave Seven Sharp today (same day as the BSA boot up the bum). Professional reputation at risk Ali, Hmmmm? Says it all. I stopped watching after the BSA episode, it was ‘Liberalfest Gay Is the New Electricity,’ show.

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  36. stephieboy (1,152 comments) says:

    We agree on certain things -namely that 7 Sharp is pitched to under 10s and that their comments went beyond acceptable standards and that Colin Craig deserved an apology.
    Yes.?
    But that doesn’t prevent one concluding that Mr Craig does have a tendency to stray into Tin Foil hat territory which can give rise to misunderstandings and a bit of confusion by Joe and Jane Public.
    Correct.?

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  37. Harriet (4,010 comments) says:

    “…..but were simply personal abuse masquerading as satire….”

    Gay hatred of Christians.

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  38. nasska (9,549 comments) says:

    You’re entering dangerous territory on this thread stephieboy. No words other than praise & adulation for Mr Craig & his party are acceptable to the Godwhacked supporters lurking here.

    All else is heresy. :)

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  39. duggie (16 comments) says:

    Forget the nanny state. We’ve become the “run to mummy state”. “Mummy those people said bad things about me”, “that’s OK son, we have Government Agencies for that sort of thing.” Forget the legal standard of libel and slander, now it’s a Government body saying: “You went too far. You must stop talking like that. You must apologize”.
    What is even more ridiculous is ANYONE can complain about what was said about ANYONE. If Colin Craig wasn’t fussed, shouldn’t that be the end of the matter?
    You may all be gloating now that your political adversaries are on the receiving end, but don’t get too smug. Your gagging may be next.

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  40. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    Mau to Radio live with Willie Jackson

    Mike Hosking to take over the 7.00pm slot as well as his breakfast show.

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  41. Nostalgia-NZ (4,697 comments) says:

    Good work PEB.

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  42. NK (918 comments) says:

    Gee, a lot of green thumbs here for pro Craig comment, and plenty of red thumbs for anti Craig comments. Pretty obvious what’s going on. As for the comments on Seven Sharp, they were infantile. But then so is your elderly dad whinging on your behalf to the pathetic BSA. Man-up guys and take it. It’s politics! Heat/kitchen and all that.

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  43. duggledog (1,116 comments) says:

    Yeah saw that. Mau and Jackson = disaster. Who the f*** makes these mental decisions? She’s never even done talkback, it’s harder than it looks (or sounds, believe it or not).

    Hosking I can see – he might be able to give 7 Sharp a bit of credibility, the only way is up, rock bottom was on Day One.

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  44. Peter (1,471 comments) says:

    7Sharp is a risible format. Dump it.

    Anything that makes Campbell “Live” look like journalism, by comparison, is as low as it is possible to go. It is through bottom of the barrel, through the floor beneath, and burrowing head-first into the basement.

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  45. Nostalgia-NZ (4,697 comments) says:

    I thought it was unfortunate when Mau went on the offence against Bob Jones in an interview on the show. It seemed like a deliberate attack against someone she may have disliked, a very thin veneer of balance at the least. It’s interesting that of the 3 original presenters only the recently sanctioned comedian remains.
    Good opportunity for Hoskins, someone well capable of thinking on his feet and capable of a wide view.

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  46. RRM (8,994 comments) says:

    Gay hatred of Christians.

    Christian hatred of gays was the only explanation for all the christian opposition to gay marriage.

    You reap what you sow.

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  47. duggledog (1,116 comments) says:

    I can’t wait to see the sparks fly between Hosking and Jessie Mulligan. Polar opposites – Hosking is established, self made, and these days a pretty sharp commentator. Mulligan although can be funny as f*** is really only at the start of his career and I don’t think he knows how the world works yet… just my opinion

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  48. Harriet (4,010 comments) says:

    “……You reap what you sow…..”

    No shit RRM……..the kids are getting confused……they don’t know where to have kids themselves now.

    …so tell us RRM……what’s a Marriage to society now…..as it has no value! ?

    The Gays have reaped what they sowed……they got nothing….and all just because of THEIR OWN PRESENCE! :cool:

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  49. ross69 (3,645 comments) says:

    Doubts moon landings = lunatic (where did the rocks come from, Colin?

    Tom, it might surprise you but rocks are also found on earth. :)

    Meanwhile, a “moon rock” donated to a museum by Aldrin and Armstong wasn’t a rock at all.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/6105902/Moon-rock-given-to-Holland-by-Neil-Armstrong-and-Buzz-Aldrin-is-fake.html

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  50. ChardonnayGuy (1,024 comments) says:

    Sheesh, talk about humourless sycophants and apparatchiks! Look everyone, it’s the social conservative ideological purity thought police come to pay us a visit. We aren’t “allowed” to laugh at the self-appointed Emperor Colin Craig for being metaphorically naked, apparently. The sock con version of political correctness strikes again…

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  51. ross69 (3,645 comments) says:

    Hosking is established, self made, and these days a pretty sharp commentator.

    I suggest laying off the turps first thing in the morning…

    Hosking talks faster than his brain can operate at. Oh and he’s prone to a little road rage. Apart from that I’m sure he’s a nice guy.

    http://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/217169/mike-hosking-apologises-calling-teacher-moron

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  52. ross69 (3,645 comments) says:

    Colin Craig is a straightforward normal NZer and a good guy to boot.

    Thanks for the hilarity, Scott, which is made even funnier by the fact you genuinely believe what you say.

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  53. RRM (8,994 comments) says:

    .the kids are getting confused……they don’t know where to have kids themselves now.

    Actual LOL. Is teenage pregnancy not an issue on your home planet?

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  54. iMP (2,154 comments) says:

    Chardonay Guy, it’s not about not laughing at ourselves, its about a media outlet being used as a partisan mockery tool to denigrate and influence someone according to an agenda “a personal attack” BSA called it. The media is a very influential force in a tiny country like NZ, so it needs to be held to account so it isn’t ‘captured.’

    Everyone enjoyed teh Civilian satire, even Colin Craig, but when other media started quoting Ben as Colin, well, the giy has a right to act to avoid confusions. That only seems fair.

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  55. Weihana (4,475 comments) says:

    iMP (1,858 comments) says:
    December 18th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    The media is a very influential force in a tiny country like NZ…

    Oh no… can’t have people being influenced… how will you control what they think if they can be influenced?

    lol, the amount of times conservatives have championed so-called “free speech” and accused the left of seeking to quash any politically incorrect speech. But when it’s making a mockery of their guy suddenly it’s all extremely unfair.

    It’s always amusing to witness the conceit of people who seem able to make up their own mind yet must ascribe that power to a superior intellect the likes of which the common folk do not possess and who might therefore be “influenced”.

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  56. Weihana (4,475 comments) says:

    iMP (1,858 comments) says:
    December 18th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    …its about a media outlet being used as a partisan mockery tool to denigrate and influence someone according to an agenda…

    Maybe Seven Sharp should take cues from Fox News aka “Fair and Balanced”? :)

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  57. Tom Jackson (2,261 comments) says:

    Tom, it might surprise you but rocks are also found on earth.

    Yes, but there aren’t anywhere near enough lunar meteorites to account for the number of specifically lunar rocks on earth. A number of the lunar rocks are hundreds of millions of years older than any rocks found on earth.

    Anyone who doubts the lunar landings is crazy. When your theory is taken from the plot of a 70s B movie, you need to rethink it.

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  58. Nigel Kearney (747 comments) says:

    lol, the amount of times conservatives have championed so-called “free speech” and accused the left of seeking to quash any politically incorrect speech. But when it’s making a mockery of their guy suddenly it’s all extremely unfair.

    I agree some of the comments show a complete lack of understanding of what free speech is or why it matters. The BSA should limit itself to restricting adult content before 8:30. Maybe also assertions of fact that are plainly false but even that is dangerous territory. It’s utterly wrong for them to get into completely subjective restrictions on content such as drawing an imaginary line between comedy and insults and placing items on one side or the other.

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  59. RRM (8,994 comments) says:

    lol, the amount of times conservatives have championed so-called “free speech” and accused the left of seeking to quash any politically incorrect speech. But when it’s making a mockery of their guy suddenly it’s all extremely unfair.

    Yes, the hypocrisy of the conservatives is absolute.

    One of the posters on this thread even supported Kolun suing Ben Uffindel, claiming on his own blog that you can’t tell The Civilian is a satire site and it is therefore slanderous lying leftist propaganda.

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  60. Pete George (21,826 comments) says:

    Yes, the hypocrisy of the conservatives is absolute.

    Yes, that’s on display at GD where I’m being criticised for linking to an interview of Craig, which is criticised as sniping, despite Craig willingly doing the interview knowing it would be published online.

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