Williams on Brown

December 24th, 2013 at 11:00 am by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

One of the most puzzling aspects of the scandal is when he found time to cheat on his wife, says former North Shore City mayor-turned-MP .

“It was full on – from dawn to dusk,” said Mr Williams, now a New Zealand First MP. “Your spare time would be limited. I am somewhat aghast he would have had the time to do it. I was run ragged for three years.

“[Wife] Jane said to me, ‘I can’t believe he would have time for an affair’.”

To be fair, it seems the encounters did not require much time :-)

Mr Williams said he was surprised by the details brought out in the EY (Ernst & Young) report. The amount of phone contact with Ms Chuang was a surprise. “I don’t think I would have rung my wife 1375 times.”

I’m no expert but I understand people tend to contact their mistress more than their spouse!

He said the frequency of stays in hotels in the city was also unusual. Mr Williams said it would have taken Mr Brown as long to get home as it used to take him as North Shore City mayor – and he had needed a hotel only once. On that single occasion, city-based meetings were followed by a black tie function and a 6.30am start the next day.

The number of stays by Mr Brown “seems excessive”, particularly considering the Super City mayoralty came with a car and driver.

At least 60 stays and he lived 20 minutes from the CBD!

The SkyCity hospitality – including free rooms and upgrades – was “definitely a conflict of interest”.

“That should have sent alarm bells to Len straight away.”

Yep.

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34 Responses to “Williams on Brown”

  1. stigie (1,458 comments) says:

    Will Len resign before Christmas day ?

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  2. burt (7,436 comments) says:

    But it’s different when Labour do it.

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  3. Chris2 (775 comments) says:

    Because his room stays have been consistently stated as “upgrades”, many people will wrongly believe that just involves being given a fancier room, and so it is is no real cost to the hotel.

    The truth is that an upgrade, depending on the hotel, also includes all sorts of extras, like free meals, complimentary champagne, chocolate and fruit baskets in the room, free saunas, free spa treatments, free room service delivery, etc, etc.

    So all these are part of the upgrade that Brown accepted and we ought to remember that it was not just a swankier room he was given, but also free food and alcohol, etc.

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  4. scrubone (3,097 comments) says:

    I think Len is struggling to come to terms with the fact this is not just something that will go away with time. The way people see him has changed forever and he isn’t the guy they elected.

    Certainly he seemed to think early on that he could just keep going but he’s going to have to realise sooner or later that he’s lost way too much to ever recover from this while still in office.

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  5. lilman (974 comments) says:

    Relax people,Lens gone in the New Year.

    Mates daughter works in Auckland Council HQ,seriously the shit thats going down there at the moment.
    Reporters know whats going down and apparently its news in the new year.

    Lens been a very very naughty boy and when it comes out ,hes gone.

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  6. Rex Widerstrom (5,013 comments) says:

    Mr Williams said it would have taken Mr Brown as long to get home as it used to take him as North Shore City mayor

    Yes, but while Len may be a dirty dog in other ways, he wasn’t stopping to piss on every tree and lamppost.

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  7. Archer (222 comments) says:

    To be fair to Len, the only reason Andrew Williams didn’t have any free time was because he was passed out drunk so often.

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  8. Jaffa (103 comments) says:

    It only takes Len two minutes, he had plenty of time!

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  9. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Lens been a very very naughty boy and when it comes out ,hes gone.
    Lilman

    I’ll hold you to that, if you’v got me all excited for nothing I’ll going to be a very grim pixie.

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  10. david (2,194 comments) says:

    lilman 11:27
    Makes a change from the past I suppose – when it came out, he came.
    boom boom tish

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  11. trout (957 comments) says:

    The real issue re the upgrades which was not covered in the EY report was if Len requested them.

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  12. nasska (12,111 comments) says:

    From DPF’s post: ….”To be fair, it seems the encounters did not require much time “….

    But given the frequency of the encounters it would appear that Loopy Len’s libido meant that he was neglecting his mayoral duties. Two minutes a day with the missus, a couple more with Bevan, a visit to Mustangs interspersed with a few quick wanks in the Mayoral chambers starts to add up (& that’s only what we know about to date).

    May I suggest that Auckland ratepayers check to see whether the Vatican has a superannuated castrato who would stand for the position of mayor next time there’s a vacancy. :)

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  13. Manolo (14,179 comments) says:

    How many text/e-mails from Dunne to Vance? :D

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  14. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    What’s amazed me over this entire Brown thing is the usual and not so usual suspects rushing to defend him.

    Those defending him are the first to start a witch hunt if a member of the police does anything illegal or unprofessional, the first to jump on the bandwagon should a member of the government behave in any way unprofessionally.

    Personally I have very little time for elected officials, a couple are brilliant, a few are good but the majority are mediocre. These are people that are elected by the people, therefore exceptionally high standards should be set and maintained.

    I realize that payment for elected officials was introduced to enable those without private means to attain public office but it seems more and more that some of those who are there for a cheque without these private means are very susciptable to the temptations that the baubles on offer afford.

    Brown is an exceptionally mediocre man that’s been proven time and time again starting with the credit card .His sense of entitlement is truly staggering , he actually believes things can carry on as normal, he may be able to con his wife but not a good portion of 1.4 million of us.

    I wish that those defending Brown would sit back have a think and realise that most of us aren’t being anti-labour over this we are really disgusted with this sneaky little man, not over his morals but the lying, the straight out bullshitting and presuming that we are gullible enough to swallow it and let him continue to take his cheque.

    I personally think Phil Goff would be a fine Mayor, he’s travelled representing New Zealand , has a world view that many of his colleagues lack and he’s professional, something sadly missing at Greys Ave at the moment.

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  15. lazza (401 comments) says:

    Len compared to Williams … Huh? No comparison.

    Try Mayor Ford instead … same ol Hubris, Entitlement, Shameless, Legislatively invulnerable, faux apologies faux excuses, prize scumbags both …

    Both are GONEBURGERS early/hopefully 2014.

    Have a shitty Christmas Len and a career-ending 2014 with … more sleazy and worse revelations due soon.

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  16. tvb (4,560 comments) says:

    Len Brown accepted a number of freebe hotel room from sky so he could basically conduct his affair. He must have lied to his wife about the reason for any overnight stays. None of these gifts were declared. It seems there are 60 stays concerned. This is no mere oversight. This is sustained duplicitous behavior.

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  17. scrubone (3,097 comments) says:

    Those defending him are the first to start a witch hunt if a member of the police does anything illegal or unprofessional, the first to jump on the bandwagon should a member of the government behave in any way unprofessionally.

    I think you mean a member of this government.

    It’s been a growing realisation of mine over the last few years, just how stupid people become when they let themselves become partisan. Certainly I look at some of the things I said about Helen Clark and wonder if those things were really justified given the behaviour of their replacements.

    I think we have to keep checking ourselves and asking if we would react the same if a member of “our” team was doing the same thing.

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  18. MH (830 comments) says:

    you won’t get me I’m afraid
    However I recommend skyCity’s the place to get laid
    And 4 out of 10,sexually speaking
    Its just not worth considering leaving

    Until Beavan gives me a public upgrade

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  19. Colville (2,318 comments) says:

    tvb @ 12.21.

    I dont think Len lied to his Wife about anything…I think she knew and allowed it.

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  20. MH (830 comments) says:

    Len was reprimanded for exactly the same misuse whilst in Manukau. He has no excuse this time, We can forgive the Pope and Lange and all and sundry,but Brown has taken me for granted,not once not twice. If he was in my team,one of us would have to leave. He’s so up for influence by Sky over any deals, that they are actually now in his pocket right down to what’s left of his manlihood.

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  21. secondcumming (93 comments) says:

    extracts (14/16) from SWORN AFFIDAVIT in relation to Brown / Chuang affair:

    “Shortly after my birthday, Mr Brown and I had sexual intercourse for the first time. This took place in his OFFICE on the couch. The sex only lasted a matter of minutes. Mr Brown did not wear a condom and EJACULATED ON ME……..Over the next few months we had sex on a number of occassions. One occassion was in the COUNCILLORS MEETING ROOM at the Auckland Town Hall………..”

    Now is it just the ‘schoolboy’ coming out in me, or can I actually picture a look of ‘smug glee’ spread over Lennie’s face whenever Brewer or Quaxie arrived for a council meeting and took that particular seat :(

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  22. Simon Lyall (60 comments) says:

    > and he lived 20 minutes from the CBD!

    I think 20 minutes from the CBD is a bit of an exageration. Google Maps puts his “lifestyle estate” as 24.9km from the town hall.

    http://goo.gl/maps/amx7j

    and lists it as 23 minutes drive at 1pm on the day before Xmas. However it would be well over an hour each way between 7-9am or 5-7pm. At 5pm you could easily take 20 minutes just to get from the town hall onto the motorway.

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  23. davidp (3,585 comments) says:

    PEB>I personally think Phil Goff would be a fine Mayor, he’s travelled representing New Zealand , has a world view that many of his colleagues lack and he’s professional, something sadly missing at Greys Ave at the moment.

    I don’t agree with Goff’s politics, but he is a serious man who has mostly managed his ministerial portfolios in a professional manner. It’s easy to imagine him running a city, or a government agency or even a large company. On the other hand, Brown has always been a strange little man with his rapping, singing, and head slapping. You wouldn’t hire him to run anything and I have no idea why Aucklanders trusted him with their city. Are they attracted to weird creepers or something?

    Regardless, Andrew Williams will be quite pleased that people no longer think of him as Auckland’s Most Embarrassing Mayor.

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  24. davidp (3,585 comments) says:

    Simon Lyall>I think 20 minutes from the CBD is a bit of an exageration.

    Irrelevant. He’s hardly likely to take Bevan, one of his other mistresses, or a prostitute back to his home for a quick root. He didn’t need a hotel because he was so tired he couldn’t make it home to sleep. But because he wanted sex and his wife and children would have killed his libido.

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  25. edhunter (554 comments) says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af9EHtQMMc4

    He’s not the Messiah!
    Feliz Navidad everyone

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  26. Longknives (4,968 comments) says:

    I keep hearing rumours (from creditable sources) of even more disgrace to come! Are the media holding off until the new year?
    I am still willing to bet good money that the Masturbating Mayor won’t go- Like any any criminal fraudster he has no moral fibre whatsoever…

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  27. MH (830 comments) says:

    when this sordid saga is over we will just remember yesterdays Len news as old flesh and tweets.

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  28. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,705 comments) says:

    So during his first term the mayor had 60 fucks? (Presuming he was only able to manage it once during each hotel stay.

    Did he attend 60 council meetings?

    Did he cast 60 votes?

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  29. Right of way is Way of Right (883 comments) says:

    I’m sorry, but when you are talking about the behavior of Mayors, and Andrew Williams is the voice of reason, and actually SOUNDS like the voice of reason, then, let’s face it, Lenny, you are fucked.

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  30. itstricky (2,027 comments) says:

    You make quite a big deal of hacking down ex-Mayor Williams and his faults but then quote him when he says something you want to hear? Confused.

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  31. Daigotsu (471 comments) says:

    So we can add giving Williams an excuse to run his mouth off to the list of Brown’s sins.

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  32. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    If principal ratepayers only, voted in local body elections, lecherous fiscally illiterate fools such as Brown would never be elected. His main voting body was from the non-ratepaying sector of society, as he stood on a Labour ticket. So long as there is swill around, these leeching lefties will find a track to the trough, and totally abuse it. Why is it, that when a MP of the left gets dumped from Parliament they end up leeching off ratepayers, unionists, or the UN. Is it because they don’t have the ability to operate successful businesses, or hold down private sector jobs? Maybe there should a complete overhaul of candidates all round, there seems to be far too many riff raff and deadbeats on the take.

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  33. lolitasbrother (774 comments) says:

    God this Len Brown thing is boring Mr.Farrar, NZ Nat Govt is in so much trouble but you can’t get yourself above the puritanical.
    Nobody cares,

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  34. Lee C (2,720 comments) says:

    Sorry LoBro, but that was a beautifully economical example of partisan-blindness – you managed to be wrong four times in only two sentences.
    In my view:
    1. The Len Brown thing is morbidly fascinating.
    2. Nats are still hold position in polls, and Labour ain’t making any inroads.
    3. The subject is now about financial corruption, not sexual.
    4. Many do care, and there is plenty of evidence to support that view,

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