General Debate 17 January 2013

January 17th, 2014 at 10:08 am by David Farrar
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  1. Manolo (13,783 comments) says:

    China owns it:
    China’s holdings of U.S. Treasuries increased $12.2 billion to a record $1.317 trillion in November, data released on the Treasury Department’s website showed.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-15/china-s-treasury-holdings-rose-to-record-in-november-data-show.html

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  2. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/better-business/9620633/Warehouse-went-too-far-with-firing

    Interesting case- One wonders if the outcome would have been the same if it was a white security guard shouting racial taunts at brown people?

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  3. iMP (2,385 comments) says:

    Radio NZ Noelle today.

    1. A terrible political traffic jam not necessarily connected to a NJ (Republican) governor.
    2. NOTHING on the bi-partisan Congressional report on Benghazi and the failure of the State Dept headed by (Democrat) Hillary Clinton.

    Both are the front runners of the next presidential race. But RadioNZ again, selectively, focusses on one, and ignores the other, straining at a gnat and ignoring a flaming camel to represent a particular political perspective.

    RNZ is publiclly funded; NZ listeners are not well served if it is a wing of the US Democrat party by proxy of its repeatedly chosen partisan US correspondents.

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  4. Scott Chris (6,139 comments) says:

    One wonders if the outcome would have been the same if it was a white security guard shouting racial taunts at brown people?

    Longknives I have no doubt that had the roles been reversed you’d be complaining that the white security guard’s right to be ‘authoritative’ was construed by the namby pamby ERA as being ‘intimidating’.

    On the other hand, I’m of the opinion that the Maori security guard should be sacked for the racial abuse.

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  5. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    What’s this country coming to?

    How low can you get,robbing an ambulance.

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  6. wiseowl (895 comments) says:

    Looks like English has caved in to the socialists in election year and is going to increase paid parental leave time.

    This power thing really does destroy our politicians.

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  7. bringbackdemocracy (427 comments) says:

    Great article from Chris Trotter

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/9619930/Anti-smacking-manoeuvre-challenges-Left-wing-parties

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  8. Paulus (2,628 comments) says:

    Was at garage paying for car fuel when the lady in front of me was complaining at the price of petrol.
    At the same time she picked up a bottle of water.
    I said to her that the price of the bottle of water was more expensive than the equivalent litre fuel price.
    The dirty look I got was worth capturing !

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  9. Yogibear (366 comments) says:

    The only people more financial literacy challenged than those that drink bottled water are the All Blacks who invest in bottled water companies thinking they can take on Coca-Cola Amatil and the breweries

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  10. flash2846 (287 comments) says:

    Am I the only one who viewed that complete fool Dennis Rodman doing his Marilyn Monroe impersonation for that other fool Kim Jong-un?
    It has to be the singular most pathetic thing I have seen in my lifetime.

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  11. Yogibear (366 comments) says:

    Flash – its not pathetic, its genius. The only possible explanation is Rodman is secretly filming the storyboard for the Team America World Police sequel.

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  12. flash2846 (287 comments) says:

    Nice one Yogibear – thumbs up for you :))

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  13. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    Looks like English has caved in to the socialists feminists in election year and is going to increase paid parental leave time.

    There, fixed it !

    Wiseowl, the Wests social decline into a micro managed nanny state is lead by feminists. As is the decline in traditional family values. It is not socialists it is feminists.

    But don’t take my word for it. Go read what these womin say themselves. The destruction of established family and society is a clearly stated goal. They make no secret of it.

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  14. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    falsh 2846

    No you’re not alone.I’m amazed at how the American establishment gives these traitors a free pass for their un American activities.

    Hanoi Jane comes to mind.

    When it comes to the black race or left issues anything is forgiveable.

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  15. cha (4,022 comments) says:

    Oh noes!, and it’s not code…..

    http://www.salon.com/2012/12/17/would_the_u_s_government_profile_white_men/

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  16. All_on_Red (1,583 comments) says:

    iMP
    “Both are the front runners of the next presidential race”

    Yeah , for the Democrats! Christie is GOP in just name only. Romney had very good reason(s) to rule him out as VP.
    Frankly until the Republicans clean out the old guard at the top little will change.
    I reckon Cruz, Rubio et al will come through anyway.
    I see Obama is now down to 30% approval rating. Winner!

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  17. edhunter (547 comments) says:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9621058/Disability-no-guarantee-of-state-house

    Bedridden, tetraplegic since a 2006 accident, 4 kids, state house, sickness benefit, ACC pay for 24hr care. Hey that’s what we do as a caring decent society.

    Then you read she’s actually been living with an undeclared partner the whole time, the father of all her children, in fact at least one of the kids was conceived & born since the accident.
    That’s when my blood starts to boil

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  18. dirty harry (489 comments) says:

    What it should say is ” Scum injures meal tickets in accident..flees the scene ”

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9618625/Children-hurt-as-driver-flees-police

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  19. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    This years’ Oscars will be as political as ever.

    This Arab film will win and no doubt the slave one that’s getting so much publicity in the British media will sweep the awards.12 Years a Slave.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/01/palestinian-film-nominated-oscar-201411615244189625.html

    Irish taxdodger Paul Hewson aka Bongo in the running too.Even better as there’s a saintly Mandela theme.

    http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/michael-fassbender-u2-and-philomena-receive-oscar-nominations-29922717.html

    Black man good ,white man bad (unless you’re a tax dodging celebrity who can cure all ills)

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  20. Rowan (2,398 comments) says:

    A pretty sad story of a pyschopath
    What sort of a person would do that to their kids?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9619374/Childrens-killer-had-secret-key

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  21. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    Rumour.

    A Chinese company are considering buying a paper mill in the South Waikato.

    As I said rumour.

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  22. Manolo (13,783 comments) says:

    An all powerful nanny state protecting its citizens:
    Wineries are upset about a discretionary condition in the proposed draft local alcohol policy, which could ban glassware from events requiring a special licence.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/hawkes-bay/9619307/Glass-ban-threat-to-wine-reputation

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  23. Scott Chris (6,139 comments) says:

    Keen weather watchers may have spotted a low pressure system headed our way from up north. Should hit next tuesday:

    http://www.metservice.com/maps-radar/rain-forecast/rain-forecast-5-day

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  24. Fletch (6,395 comments) says:

    This Arab film will win

    More political correctness. The Academy has the country of origin listed as “Palestine”, when no such country exists. The movie was actually shot in Israel by a filmmaker born in Nazareth in Israel.

    Director Hany Abu-Assad is heading back to the Oscars — with what he insists is a Palestinian movie, even though it was filmed in Israel, with several Israeli actors. And the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences agrees with him.

    The Nazareth-born filmmaker, who carries Israeli citizenship but identifies himself as a Palestinian, earned the second Oscar nomination of his career on Thursday when his feature film “Omar” was announced as one of the five films selected for this year’s Best Foreign Film category.

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinian-film-gets-academy-award-nomination/

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  25. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    Fletch, oh the irony. By that measure no such country as Israel exists.

    It will willed into being by a bunch of meddling foreigners just a few decades ago. I am puzzled why you are not able to accept the same thing for Palestine.

    Maybe because you believe the religious fables that say the jews are gods special chosen ones, unlike those filthy Arabs ? Funny thing is half the jews in Israel are atheists and the number is increasing.

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  26. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    Black man good ,white man bad

    Sorry to burst your cozy little hate bubble kowtow, but the jew is not considered “white” by you people. You need to go back to Stormfront for more research.

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  27. bc (1,367 comments) says:

    kowtow: “Black man good,white man bad”

    Considering you are talking about films that deal with slavery and apartheid, I think a theme of “black man good, white man bad” wouldn’t be unreasonable in those cases.
    Haven’t said that, based on many previous racist posts here it wouldn’t surprise me if you believe in slavery and apartheid.

    Also I would bet that you haven’t seen either of those films, but hey why would that stop you making a judgment of them, right? Ignorance is bliss in kowtows world.

    “12 Years a Slave” has a 97% critical approval rating on both Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes. That’s universal acclaim.
    Have you ever considered, kowtow, that those films got nominated because they are examples of excellent film-making?
    No of course you didn’t.
    In kowtows world they are there because they show “black man good, white man bad”.

    You sir, are a prize idiot.

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  28. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    When it comes to the black race or left issues anything is forgiveable.

    kowtow, excuse my ignorance, but what Race is the black one ?

    Its hard to tell. Are people from India “black” ? I have seen some who are very pale. What about Chinese ? Some are lilly white while others are very dark. Are Israelis “black” too ? They look pretty much identical to all the other surrounding peoples and skin tone varies !

    It is really hard to know who to hate with all this confusion. How do you decide ?

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  29. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    I may be an idiot,but I prize my own opinions over those that are presented to us by the media,academia and other cultural marxists who are able to shape your uncritical view of the world.

    ‘Hate bubble”indeed……my view is not directed to members of other races as such ,more to the people who push their communist agenda and indeed like yourself their fellow travellers…..

    You sir are as the term goes a useful idiot.

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  30. bc (1,367 comments) says:

    So you put your opinions more highly than that of people that actually know what they talking about?
    Scrub the word idiot, I was wrong.
    Narcissist is clearly the correct term here.

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  31. bc (1,367 comments) says:

    Kowtow, I’m intrigued by your critical assessment of these films: “black man good, white man bad”
    Nothing wrong with a short film review – succinctness is good.
    But since as you have stated, your opinion is more valued than anyone else’s, I wouldn’t mind knowing a little bit more – what is the cinematography like for starters?

    After all, you must have seen these films before you made your assessment of them right?
    The all-great kowtow wouldn’t just make stuff up, surely.

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  32. holysheet (395 comments) says:

    Rumour.

    A Chinese company are considering buying a paper mill in the South Waikato.

    Make a good dairy factory to service all the dairy farms they have bought and will continue to buy.

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  33. Rowan (2,398 comments) says:

    Have to agree with Cecile Meier, the media intrusion was uncalled for and over the top, IMO it goes as far as harrassment, revealing the details of the best mans colourful past was also uncalled for, It certainly gave many of the small minded trolls here on KB amusement, but thats about it.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/blogs/chez-cecile/9617810/Should-media-have-covered-the-Bain-wedding

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  34. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    ‘Hate bubble”indeed……my view is not directed to members of other races as such ,more to the people who push their communist agenda and indeed like yourself their fellow travellers…..

    Kowtow, I know what you mean and I feel the same way. Maybe you missed my comments around the time the commie terrorist Mandela snuffed it ?

    Same deal with the black war lord Obama. It is not him I loathe, it is those who support him because he is black and that is what a good socialist should do.

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  35. flipper (4,068 comments) says:

    Rowan…
    The young lady wrote a very good piece.

    Your usual accuracy deserted you on one point – the young man was part of the wedding party, not the best man. One of the Karam boys was, from memory. ????

    In all other matters: Spot on.

    H A N W
    F

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  36. Nookin (3,345 comments) says:

    Rowan & Flipper
    While I have not got the link handy, I seem to recall a suggestion from you, Flipper, that the revelation of the history of the particular member of the bridal party could well have been attributable to a mischievous government department.

    My own observations at the time were that it was evident that a New Zealand Herald journalist and a photographer were wedding guests and were taking photographs with the blessing of the Bain entourage. This is why there was a close-up of Paul Wilson.

    The journalist appears to have been based in Christchurch and I have noted that he has reported on a number of West Coast matters so it is quite likely that he was aware of Paul Wilson personally and it may well be that this journalist was the source of the revelation. Although his crime was in 1994, he was paroled in 2010 and there was a degree of publicity at the time. If this is correct, I am not altogether certain that the media can be blamed for the intrusion. Mr Bain may well have cause to remonstrate with the journalist/photographer but not the buzzards flying overhead.

    On the other hand, the helicopters and the intrusions by uninvited media were wholly over the top and objectionable. I understand that parts of the service had to be delayed because of the noise and disturbance. In that regard, MSM should hang its head in shame.

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  37. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    My printer cartridge died.

    Go down to get a new one- a new printer is half the price of a new cartridge, is that bullshit or what?

    Got a new printer, now have large piece of plastic sitting in garage

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  38. Fletch (6,395 comments) says:

    Pauleastbay, they sell the printers cheap to make money on consumables.

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  39. Fletch (6,395 comments) says:

    A U.N climate chief says that Communism is the best way to fight climate change.

    United Nations climate chief Christiana Figueres said that democracy is a poor political system for fighting global warming. Communist China, she says, is the best model.

    China may be the world’s top emitter of carbon dioxide and struggling with major pollution problems of their own, but the country is “doing it right” when it comes to fighting global warming says Figueres.

    Figueres added that the deep partisan divide in the U.S. Congress is “very detrimental” to passing any sort of legislation to fight global warming. The Chinese Communist Party, on the other hand, can push key policies and reforms all on its own.

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/15/un-climate-chief-communism-is-best-to-fight-global-warming/
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-13/top-global-emitter-china-best-on-climate-change-figueres-says.html

    See, some of these ‘democratic’ leaders are envious of communist countries. They wish they had the power of communist states, so they could just foist whatever they pleased on us – for our own good, of course.

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  40. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    Fletch, the link between earths climate and political systems is well established. White people, capitalism and George Bush, are the primary causes.

    The sun has no noticeable effect on earths climate.

    It is called “climate science”

    LOL :)

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  41. Gulag1917 (920 comments) says:

    1984
    http://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000002068339/drones-for-america.html

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  42. Fletch (6,395 comments) says:

    Jimmy Fallon (as Bruce Springsteen) and the actual Bruce Springsteen take the piss out of the Christie bridge scandal in a parody of Born To Run. Quite funny, but I notice they get quite a few boo’s at the end as well.

    Now, how about taking the piss out of some of the Obama scandals?

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  43. dirty harry (489 comments) says:

    Nice…ambulance driver in Hamilton ambushed and robbed by ” 4 dark skinned men “.

    Total fucking scum ..how low can these people stoop…absolute lowest of the low..lower than a snakes belly.

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  44. flipper (4,068 comments) says:

    Nookin (2,799 comments) says:

    January 17th, 2014 at 4:05 pm

    Rowan & Flipper
    While I have not got the link handy, I seem to recall a suggestion from you, Flipper, that the revelation of the history of the particular member of the bridal party could well have been attributable to a mischievous government department.

    ******
    Yours is a considered comment Nookin. Thanks.

    My observations were in the GD earlier in the week.

    I accept the point you make about the West Coast media interest, but the detail in the Stuff and APN coverage was very, very similar. And it was clearly prepared in advance. Moreover some detail was of a nature that only those with a specific legal interest (need to know) would be able to accumulate and collate. He (Mr Wilson) was too easily identified, yet all media photographs are 15 years old.

    To my knowledge this limits it to either Police (perhaps a smart alec rogue, NOT suggesting official involvement) and the probation arm of Corrections (also likely a rogue). I know the media’s limitations.

    Information relating to any lifer on parole is tightly held, and such persons get every opportunity to reintegrate, and to observe, scrupulously, their parole terms and conditions.

    Coverage of the wedding per se was a legitimate news event. Screwing the coverage with prompted photographs and the emphasis on Paul Wilson, thereby implying something less than savoury in relation to Mr Bain, is just sick. But that is the MSM, and some brainless commenters, circa 2014

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  45. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    I have seen the greatest display of bias in journalism whilst looking at a copy of Kapi-Mana. This piece of left-wing propaganda was penned by one Gordon Campbell, another known commo of the Fairfax fold, and whoever subbed it, also had a headline depictive of the stench that now pervades this once respected company. It is obvious on looking at the rag, their advertisers are leaving community papers also . . . Great!

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  46. stephieboy (3,109 comments) says:

    I think people are kidding themselves if the attention lavished by the media on the Bain wedding was neither unsolicited or objected to by Bain and his supporters.
    A reminder , Bain is a controversial public figure . The media have every right to draw attention , from to time , to the nature, and substance of the whys and wherefores of that controversy.

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  47. hj (7,023 comments) says:

    Chas piece from Salon is disingenuous. Why would you prophile the sort of person who goes on a (very rare) shooting spree. On the other hand armed robbery is much more common.

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  48. Steve (North Shore) (4,563 comments) says:

    Pauleastbay (4,957 comments) says:
    January 17th, 2014 at 4:07 pm
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    So here you go:
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  49. hj (7,023 comments) says:

    On edge.org they are asking scientists what ideas will die out. #2 item is race. Having read the arguments however I don’t think so: a daschund and great dane are biologically the same, blacks win the sprints, top scientists are white, eurasin, asian etc

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  50. RF (1,399 comments) says:

    I see that one of the low life scum savages who smashed up the German tourists has been named and remanded in custody. No further comment required.

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  51. stephieboy (3,109 comments) says:

    Yet another feral attack.!. This time French Tourists at the Kapua Camping ground , Raglan.
    It will be fascinating to see how this unravels ?
    Who knows, another copycat crime.?
    The 23 year old another mere victim of circumstances , unemployed,weed dependency etc, etc.?
    But its heartening to see how the public rallied to ensure the rapid and ready identification of the feral.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11188059

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  52. bc (1,367 comments) says:

    Fletch @ 4.54pm
    Thanks for that clip – absolutely brilliant. Fallon’s a talented guy, he could have been Springsteens twin.

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  53. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    Academy awards are political and cultural marxism writ large.

    “bc” tells us that the awards /critics (who ever) are “people that actually know what they’re talking about”……hmmmmm let’s see……

    like the 2006 award to Al Groan for his “documentary,” Inconvenient Truth or in ’02 to Mike Moore for the “documentary” Bowling for Columbine.

    Like I said cultural marxism.

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  54. nasska (11,525 comments) says:

    “My dad is harder than your dad.”

    “Yeah? Who’s told you that?”

    “Your mum.”

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  55. stephieboy (3,109 comments) says:

    kowtow .Thus the best picture prospect “12 years a slave “directed by a Marxist and acted by Marxists.?

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  56. bc (1,367 comments) says:

    kowtow, the Oscars are voted by Academy members so there has been the occasional controversal decision.
    For example, Martin Scorcese, one of the greatest American movie directors, never won an Oscar until his film “The Departed” won best picture.

    It may interest you to know another controversial decision was “Crash” winning best picture instead of “Brokeback Mountain” which was considered a superior picture by movie critics. It was proposed that a film about American ‘cowboys’ who were gay was too much for the Academy voters to deal with. (Brokedown Mountain is the better of the two films by the way).
    You see, kowtow, instead of being “cultural Marxists” (whatever the hell that means), there is a concern that the Academy voters who tend to be older are conservative with their choices.
    Thus directors like Scorcese who makes films that are a bit ‘edgy’ are shut out.
    So hardly “cultural Marxists” kowtow, more like conservative old timers.

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  57. bc (1,367 comments) says:

    But all this detracts from the fact that “12 Years a Slave” has been universally praised.
    It’s nomination is thus well deserved.

    You are seriously deluded if you think it has only been nominated because (quote – your words) “black man good, white man bad”.

    Is that really what you believe, kowtow?
    Have you seen the film, kowtow?

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  58. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    Kunte Kinte and Chicken George were always my heroes bc! :)

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  59. bc (1,367 comments) says:

    Here’s a review from that horrible left wing paer “The Wall Street Journal”
    Wall Street, kowtow!! Where greed is good, and there’s not a “cultural Marxist” to be seen!

    Movie audiences have never been presented with anything quite like the intertwined beauty and savagery of “12 Years a Slave,” so it’s anyone’s guess whether they’ll extend the embrace that Steve McQueen’s film deserves. Such is the power of this landmark event, though, that it seems certain to transcend the movie realm and become a new reference point in contemporary culture—a defining vision of what slavery looked like, and felt like, in the U.S. before the Civil War.

    It’s a sun-scorched vision of hell that puts Hieronymus Bosch in the shade. At the same time—and here’s the genius of the production, and of John Ridley’s script—it’s a thrilling tale of survival, based on a celebrated 1853 memoir by Solomon Northup. A free black man living happily and prosperously with his wife and children in Saratoga, N.Y., Solomon (Chiwetel Ejiofor) is pulled into a nightmare world when he is abducted by bounty hunters in 1841, then shipped off to a plantation in Louisiana as a slave in shackles and chains.

    At first the educated, sweet-spirited victim doesn’t realize what’s happening to him, but he’s brought all too quickly to understand the ruthlessness of slave traders who treat the men, women and children they sell as talking livestock—”My sentimentality,” says a pitiless trader played by Paul Giamatti, “extends the length of a coin”—and the inhumanity of plantation owners who buy them. “There is no sin,” says one owner, Edwin Epps, a lust-addled, Scripture-quoting brute played by Michael Fassbender. “A man does how he pleases with his property.”

    Like its source material, “12 Years a Slave” is a polemic, and a furious one. How could it not be, given the physical horror and moral squalor of the society it explores? Solomon’s agonies—the lashings, the capricious beatings—are barely endurable for him, and a test of our willingness to bear witness, even though it’s hard to turn away from the astonishing range and impassioned conviction of Mr. Ejiofor’s portrayal. A slave named Patsey (Lupita Nyong’o, in another of the film’s brilliant performances) endures even more terrible punishment at the hands of Epps, whose tortured sexuality leads him to rape her ritually, and to have her whipped until the flesh falls from her back.

    The polemic is also a work of art. Mr. McQueen was a visual artist before he became a filmmaker, and he and his cinematographer, Sean Bobbitt, give us a succession of images that seem discovered rather than devised. (In one extended, excruciating sequence that I’ll describe obliquely, so as not to diminish its impact, Solomon touches his toes to a patch of mud like a dancer performing a life-or-death gavotte.) The artistry extends to the heightened, almost literary language spoken by the slaves among themselves, and occasionally to their masters; it’s a choice that could have fallen into affectation but serves to honor inchoate feelings that might otherwise have gone unexpressed. Yet Mr. Ridley’s exemplary script gives everyone his intricate due. The white men and women who inhabit the film aren’t all undifferentiated monsters—one can imagine them being tender with their children and generous to their friends—and those of them who perpetrate the most flagrant evil are anything but banal.

    Mr. Fassbender shines, however malignantly, as the worst villain of the bunch. Epps is the lethally serious counterpart of the jovial monster played by Christoph Waltz in “Django Unchained,” and one more reminder that villainy in drama is its own reward. Benedict Cumberbatch is Ford, a plantation owner with a paternalistic bent; he recognizes Solomon’s intellectual and musical gifts and treats him reasonably well, but still sees him as a valuable piece of property. Paul Dano’s overseer, Tibeats, is terrifying for his invincible stupidity.

    As an emblem of plantation society’s contradictions, Alfre Woodard’s Mistress Shaw is serenely, almost surreally charming; a black woman and former slave, she is married to a white plantation owner. Brad Pitt’s Bass is the antithesis of evil, a Canadian abolitionist who may be the least convincing character in the film because he shows up out of nowhere and delivers the script’s only lapse into didacticism. That’s easy to forgive on three counts, though: Mr. Pitt is perfectly fine in the role; as one of the producers, he was instrumental in getting “12 Years a Slave” to the screen; and the abolitionist’s message of equality is a worthy one. “Your story is amazing,” Bass tells Solomon gravely, “and in no way good.” The film is amazing, and in every way good.

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  60. Reid (16,473 comments) says:

    If you guys are discussing movies, as if they’re real, and make a difference, and communicate a message, then welcome to bimbo land, where everything smiles and you’re just, just, well. Let’s say you’re just really really super, and let’s leave it at that.

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  61. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    I’ve always thought you were really super Reid! :)

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  62. bc (1,367 comments) says:

    Or the short version for kowtow: “The film is amazing, and in every way good.”
    The wall Stret Journal said that kowtow!!

    Now what does our expert kowtow say – “black man good, white man bad”

    Fair enough I suppose, it’s a film about slavery after all. But kowtow, do you really believe that is the sole reason the film has been nominated? Honestly?

    Again: Have you seen the film, kowtow?

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  63. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    Really I have! :)

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  64. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    Cultural marxists (whatever the hell that means)

    Here ya go.

    http://www.academia.org/the-origins-of-political-correctness/

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  65. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    Have you seen the film ,kowtow?

    I don’t have to, I know what it’s about already……black man good,white man bad.

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  66. bc (1,367 comments) says:

    I disagree, Reid. Like it or not some movies have made people think about things differently.

    For example McDonalds dropped upsizing and offered healthier food choices specifically because of the film “Super Size Me”.
    Films do make an impact. It’s you who is living in “bimbo land” if you think otherwise.

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  67. bc (1,367 comments) says:

    That may be what the film is about kowtow, but do you believe that is the sole reason why it got nominated?

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  68. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    Slavery can’t be all that bad. Every time I cruise past roadworks in my flash wheels I see happy dark faces digging holes, driving diggers and manipulating stop/go signs like fan dancers! :)

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  69. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    Inconvenient Truth and Bowling for Columbine……..documentaries …….bwahahahahahahaha.

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  70. stephieboy (3,109 comments) says:

    john boy ,how did last year’s rally go for you. ?

    http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?id=8984485

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  71. stephieboy (3,109 comments) says:

    Kowtow ,was this documentary academy ward for 2013 insanely too commie for you.?,

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2125608/

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  72. bc (1,367 comments) says:

    Do you think slavery is a good thing kowtow?
    Are all these people that think slavery is bad just being “cultural Marxists”?

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  73. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    My kind of time and city stephie! :)

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  74. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    stef

    Was it a doco,cos the 2 I cited weren’t,they were commie shit.

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  75. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    It’s good that our Ahrab friends encourage slavery as it help’s to keep the cost of our gas down.

    It’s bad, of course, that they like to mistreat sheep because of their stone age religion! :)

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/sheep/9620611/More-than-4000-sheep-perish-on-live-export-ship

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  76. stephieboy (3,109 comments) says:

    Memphis Tennessee
    With lyrics and music by Chuck Berry,

    Heh,heh!

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  77. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    Don’t see too many Hollywood movies these days on Arab slave traders…….

    …..tends always to be some ugly white rapist as the baddy……

    Black man good ,white man bad.

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  78. stephieboy (3,109 comments) says:

    kowtow, your not Colin Craigs race relations spokesman by chance ,?
    Johnboy, as I asked how did last years’ rally go for you in Memphis.?

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  79. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    Your on to it kowtow. The Ahrabs still use slaves from the Philippines and Bangladesh etc.

    The old Ahrab dominance of the slave trade is a conveniently forgotten truth!

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  80. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    Chuck just never had the rhythm that a whitey boy like Johnny had stephie! :)

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  81. stephieboy (3,109 comments) says:

    Kylie, err sorry Johnboy, thats all a matter of opinion .
    But am sure Johnny Rivers was, as sure as eggs ,indebted to the R & ;B master and didn’t present himself with the racial resentments and prejudices that your apparently infected with.

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  82. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    Knew Johnny well then did you stephie? :)

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  83. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    Yep johnboy ans when they’re finished with them they simply expel ‘em.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6b49c0fa-5d9d-11e3-b3e8-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2qe2GjhX6

    But it’s OK for the wogs to do.

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  84. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    And after watching Lawrence of Arabia I thought that they were such a noble race kowtow! :)

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  85. stephieboy (3,109 comments) says:

    Now which two of you two is among these pray tell us.?,

    http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=right+wing+resistance&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=HPXYUsutMcyqkgWq24CIBQ&sqi=2&ved=0CDMQsAQ&biw=1671&bih=853

    Now let me guess.?
    The last two far right.?

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  86. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    Anyway. Rhythm or not here it is:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Rivers

    Note:………”Rivers Live At The Whisky A Go Go.[1] The live album reached #12 on the charts and the single “Memphis” reached the US Hit Parade #2 spot [7] in July 1964. It sold over one million copies, and was awarded a gold disc.[6] According to Elvis Presley’s friend and employee, Alan Fortas, Presley played his friend (Rivers) a test pressing of “Memphis” that Elvis had made but not released. Rivers was impressed, and much to Presley’s chagrin, Rivers recorded and released it, even copying the arrangement (Fortas writes: “After that, Johnny was on Elvis’s shit list” and was persona non grata from then on).[8] Rivers’s version far outsold the Chuck Berry original from August 1959 which stalled at #87 in the US. (Lonnie Mack’s 1963 instrumental version of “Memphis” reached the US Hit Parade top five in July;[9] the Chuck Berry original and its British rival cover version fought it out in the UK Hit parade in November 1963).[10]

    :)

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  87. stephieboy (3,109 comments) says:

    But am confident that your distinctions and comparisons would be quite meaningless and pointless to both great musicians.Yes Rivers made a great hit and cover from Berry’s original song. Am sure that River’s and his manager did not mind paying the royalties to Berry as well.
    Here are some images of them performing together ,

    http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=johnny+rivers+on+chuck+berry&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=MfjYUuqEKYvHkwWFq4GQAw&ved=

    Am sure both would find you racial rantings both highly amusing and pathetically sad.!

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  88. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    Lawrence of Arabia!

    Good film but……….

    ah what the heck…..more cultural marxism.

    Noble wogs,nasty imperialist colonial whites.

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  89. kowtow (8,487 comments) says:

    I’m outta here.

    G’night johnboy.

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  90. Johnboy (16,597 comments) says:

    Wog’s, honkies, cop’s and all in a majestic movie made locally kowtow! :)

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11188245

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  91. Fletch (6,395 comments) says:

    Lawrence of Arabia!

    Good film but……….

    ah what the heck…..more cultural marxism.

    Noble wogs,nasty imperialist colonial whites.

    Peter O’Toole was a great actor, but the movie “Lawrence of Arabia” was nothing more than a Hollywood fantasy which, like the imaginary story of Lawrence, swept away many romantics and for decades had a negative impact on the decisions made by influential Western officials and statesmen dealing with policy in the Middle East. The problem is that today as well, Western leaders and policy-makers view and discuss the problems of the Middle East through the prism of Lawrence of Arabia, romantic, distorted and nostalgic as it is, seeing only the unilateral Arab position of every conflict, and adopting paradigms, symbols and historical deceptions as the gospel truth.

    Lies told repeatedly, as the past has shown, become historical truths. Actually, Hollywood’s world of dreams and fantasy did not penetrate the wandering sand dunes of the evil and unjust acts perpetrated by the Arabs and Bedouins throughout the years of the jahiliyya (the era of ignorance before Islam) which left their indelible imprint of murder and theft. Those crimes accompanied the Arabs and Muslims from the rise of Islam and accompany them to this day. All the evil storms of history visited upon humanity did not expose to the people of Europe (who today host well-established enclaves of radical Islam in their midst) even the surface of the slaughter and injustice carried out by Muslims in the name of Islam, “the religion of peace,” against Jews and Christians. Europe is still influenced by the fantasies of Lawrence of Arabia, captivated by the specious charms of the Arabs and Islam and unaware of the catastrophe that will be visited on the world as soon as the Islamist genie is let out of the bottle, making the World Trade Center look like three minutes of “coming attractions.”

    Emotionally identifying with Lawrence’s Arab narrative, the West is in denial. It disregards the warnings radiating from radical Islam and the tragedy of the persecuted, decimated Christian communities in the Arab Middle East as the threat to Europe steadily increases. As a collective blind eye is turned, the lives and property of the Christian communities is stolen, their churches are burned and their honor is defiled, exactly as the ancient Jewish communities in the Arab states were persecuted before they fled for their lives as refugees and eventually found a safe haven in the State of Israel.

    Nevertheless, Lawrence of Arabia-style mythology flourishes, the paradigm of the “good, noble Arabs” balancing the paradigm of the “bad, Protocols of the Elders of Zion Jews” who oppress “Palestine,” helping to stir the smoldering embers of European anti-Semitism. The ancient European hatred of the Jews, dormant and in remission since the end of the Second World War, has reawakened in a new, politically correct form: Europe does not hate the Jews, but rather it is pro-Palestinian and thus anti-Zionist and anti-Israeli…

    http://www.investigativeproject.org/4256/guest-column-the-final-death-of-lawrence-of-arabia

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  92. SPC (5,619 comments) says:

    Something that might interest nasska and those seeking to understand the struggle that those who create jokes go through.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25747068

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  93. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    Fletch @ 10:53, I agree.

    It is just the same as the lie/fable about the creation of the parasite nation of Israel. When it comes to distorting reality and history the zionist lies really takes some beating.

    Of course no educated person really believes any of it, including the majority of Jewish folk.

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  94. Fletch (6,395 comments) says:

    “Never get involved in a land war in Asia”

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  95. Nostalgia-NZ (5,214 comments) says:

    Kea in using his/her divine powers can determine what people ‘really’ believe. Such modest divinity.

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  96. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    Nosty, I normally just ask. Note the question mark on my comment ? It is a clue.

    Religious people are closed minded. They think they already have all the answers. Usually they torture to death anyone who investigates other explanations, when ever they are allowed to power to do so.

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  97. Nostalgia-NZ (5,214 comments) says:

    There’s no threat in allowing people to believe what they like Kea, if you think there is that’s your problem rather than theirs. However it’s totally weird to imply that you ‘know’ what other people think or what they believe. It’s a type of fearfulness to be concerned with what people may or may not think as though your own personality or existence is somehow threatened if they don’t see the world the same way you do. I may miss some of the comments, perhaps through lack of looking or interest, that seem to provoke you – on the other hand your ‘omniscient’ views are repeated like a mantra as if you expect people haven’t read what you’ve said a 1000 times before.

    Besides that hope you had good Christmas and New Year.

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  98. Scott Chris (6,139 comments) says:

    Interesting article in Stuff this morning on Chris Finlayson’s grammatical preferences:

    “I have always preferred the understatement,” Mr Finlayson admitted.

    “People use passionate when they mean like, or unique when they mean vaguely fashionable.

    “It’s like what happened in Rome when classical Roman broke down into vulgar Latin. The more intensive adjective or verb was always used over the classical one. And I have this objection to that happening to the English language. It’s just my little jihad.”

    Ironic use of the word ‘jihad’, whether deliberate or not :?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9623511/Finlayson-embarks-on-jargon-jihad

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