General Debate 21 January 2014

January 21st, 2014 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    “Better people make better All Blacks…”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11189476

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  2. Viking2 (11,674 comments) says:

    yeah right!

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  3. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Herald seems to be having all-out attempt to reinstate Lecher Len as approved mayor!

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  4. flash2846 (289 comments) says:

    Dumb Greed

    My neighbour rents three flats in our street. She advertised one of the flats on November 2nd last year and six prospective tenants viewed the flat the very next day. The asking rent is $350/wk; prior to the Christchurch earthquakes the same flat returned just $175/wk; it’s a bit of a dive.

    The first prospective tenants my neighbour wanted offered her $330/wk which she refused so they went elsewhere. Another couple offered $320 with the same result. Regardless of many visits by prospective tenants the flat has been empty since November 14th (that’s 10 weeks and counting)

    Speaking to my neighbour I remarked that she has so far lost at least $3300 and perhaps should reconsider the asking amount. To which she replied, and I quote:
    “I don’t care I just want them to pay the market value”

    Here we have a combination of stupidity, greed and a total lack of empathy towards renters (her customers).
    Dumb Greed for sure.

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  5. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11189401

    “and it’s kind of galling coming up 250 years later where we find ourselves with these tour operators who are essentially not recognising our deep connection to the land and to the water and to the spirit of partnership,”

    So Mr Hopkins- just how much cash do evil,ignorant Pakeha have to pay you to recognise your ‘deep,spiritual connection’ to this hunk of rock? (that had been there for thousands of years before any of us got here)
    Will a cheque do?

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  6. OneTrack (3,362 comments) says:

    “Here we have a combination of stupidity, greed and a total lack of empathy towards renters (her customers).
    Dumb Greed for sure.”

    It’s more she doesn’t seem to understand what “the market rate” is or even what it means.

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  7. flipper (4,330 comments) says:

    Long knives are illegal, and classified as a dangerous weapon.
    Being brainless, adds to the danger.

    The smallest Swiss Army knife, however, is useful and, before the risible restrictions post “9/11″, were permitted on aircraft – – even on international flights.

    However, back to the gratuitous dangerous weapons insult….. I am sure that I could, with help from a coup[le of friends, arrange for the idiot fool to test his long knife on a similarly sized All Black. But all indications are that the fool has neither the brains the intestinal fortitude to try.

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  8. Keeping Stock (9,380 comments) says:

    So much for Len Brown working closer with his council. His first major announcement after his “return to work” goes straight to the media, and councillors only hear about it second hand.

    You’ve got to give it to the bloke; he’s got no shame whatsoever, and the censuring by his councillors has made no difference whatsoever; he’s power-crazy…

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2014/01/more-trouble-for-len.html

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  9. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    Hah! I’d be quite happy to spar a few rounds with one of your heroes Flipper.
    Unfortunately the All Blacks don’t really go for Queensberry rules- Preferring cowardly attacks from behind (Hore) and two on one spear tackles etc
    I note also that numerous of them like to practice beating up on the missus- Speaks volumes of the type of guy that wears Black these days…
    But who am I to speak ill of the self-professed “Greatest Sports Team in the History of the Universe”

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  10. iMP (2,456 comments) says:

    Flash I agree, this is happening all over Chch. One week with no rent, and the landlord has to rent another year (depending on the rate) to make up the difference. Many landlords are doing this “because we can” and “because every one else is.” $250 for a room. They interpret “market” as the opportunity to exploit everyone disadvantaged by the quakes. Ugly. Good people would not double their rents, just because they can get it,.

    I have noticed, however, that rents do seem to be hauling back in Chch, as renters increasingly resist the gouging.

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  11. iMP (2,456 comments) says:

    I hope her house sits there empty until Nov. 2014 on “the market.”

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  12. Keeping Stock (9,380 comments) says:

    @ Longknives – Lauaki is a former All Black who never really set the world on fire, and clearly has a problem with the demon drink. This is not the first incident that he has been involved in late at night or early in the morning.

    One of the things that makes a good All Black is self-discipline. That’s why Zac Guildford is off to play in France. That’s why Lauaki was dropped at the end of the 2008 season. It explains why Andrew Hore has fallen from favour.

    The problem is not with the All Blacks per se, but with the individual, and the drinking culture that still exists in rugby, although that has changed markedly in recent years.

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  13. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Longknives: Your pseudonym illustrates the pathetic type of person you are. Your references to Hore and Umaga are typical of a envious fool, and I would doubt if you would even know how to tie a glove on, more realistically, you would maybe use a “handbag”.

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  14. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    I’m ‘pathetic’ for posting a newsworthy link to Lauaki??
    Flipper responded in schoolboy fashion by threatening to set some of his brave All Black ‘friends’ on me! (confirming what we already knew about these thugs and their moronic fans) and I’m pathetic??
    And wrong about the boxing- Try again you drooling fanboy…

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  15. SGA (1,255 comments) says:

    Keeping Stock at 8:42 am

    It explains why Andrew Hore has fallen from favour.

    I’d suggest that age (turns 36 this year) has had its contribution.

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  16. Manolo (14,169 comments) says:

    Lovely, peaceful Muslims: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/sochi-olympic-games-urgent-search-black-widow-suicide/story?id=21597931

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  17. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    However, back to the gratuitous dangerous weapons insult….. I am sure that I could, with help from a coup[le of friends, arrange for the idiot fool to test his long knife on a similarly sized All Black. But all indications are that the fool has neither the brains the intestinal fortitude to try.

    So you have to fight an All Black before you can pass judgement on their criminal behaviour? Ok, flipper. Talk about reinforcing the stereotype…

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  18. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Longknives: Have you ever picked up a Rugby ball, or climbed into a ring? I should think not!

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  19. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    Yep and yep.
    As I said IGM- try another tack mate…

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  20. Than (514 comments) says:

    iMP, I suspect market forces are acting very differently on mid-price rentals than at the low end.

    A major influence right now is the influx of thousands of tradesmen for the rebuild. They earn good money, so they’ll generally choose to live in a decent place rather than a dump, and they can afford to pay a little more to do so. Increased demand puts upwards pressure on the price of mid-range housing. However at the low end the number of renters on low incomes (students, beneficiaries, etc.) hasn’t changed, plus they can’t afford huge price increases anyway, and that would create the hauling back you mentioned.

    Of course that doesn’t stop idiot landlords looking at “median rents” and over-estimating the value of their property. If the owners of dumps lose money until they figure out their properties aren’t worth what they think, I have no sympathy for them.

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  21. flipper (4,330 comments) says:

    The silly, dilly long knife would never be able do a Cassius Clay – that is dance like a butterfly and sting like a bee .

    Moreover, while he would clearly never be able to rumble in the jungle, he would sting like a butterfly

    Faced with any AB of similar size, he would be held off the ground, deprived of the use of his “longknife, and shaken until sense visited him.

    The pathetic little germ, a toe rag possibly, shows his class by linking Sione Lauaki with Tana Umaga and Andrew Hore – two internationally respected (warts and all) ABs. That is typical of the gratuitous insults directed by him at our national team – the most successful international team in history.

    Long knife describes my rejoinder to his gratuitous insult as “school boy”.

    This is New Zealand dippy long knife. Learn to deal with us as we are, not as you would wish us to be — or return to from whence you came. :-)

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  22. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    Have you been drinking Flipper?

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  23. dime (10,213 comments) says:

    Even Great men do stupid things at different times in their life.

    So he kicked a taxi or something. Who cares. He will go to court, pay a fine, maybe give the driver some cash.

    Being an All Black and a role model to us all he faces the indignity of having this in all the papers.

    If some low rent shit head pleb had done it, not a word spoken. The headline would have been “policeman stood down” and the story would have been “a cop and an unknown friend….”

    With great power comes great responsibility.

    The good new is the Blues season kicks off in just over 4 weeks! GLORIOUS!!!

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  24. Manolo (14,169 comments) says:

    DPF will be elated:
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/queen-elizabeth-ii-hand-over-3039892#.Ut2JPm2BqUk

    It is being dubbed the “gentle succession” – as the Queen gradually begins to relinquish some of her traditional duties as monarch.

    As she approaches her 88th birthday in April after almost 62 years on the throne, she has agreed to hand over part of her workload in a historic “job-share” arrangement with Prince Charles.

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  25. Don the Kiwi (1,814 comments) says:

    God has to be the best inventor of all time – he took a rib from Adam and made a loudspeaker. :-)

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  26. MT_Tinman (3,317 comments) says:

    Longknives (3,745 comments) says:
    January 21st, 2014 at 9:25 am
    Have you been drinking Flipper?

    It can’t be just the booze.

    I disagree with you on most things sporting but asked the same question myself.

    Maybe he was cheering for the pathetic Sri Lankans last night.

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  27. MT_Tinman (3,317 comments) says:

    Don it’s not my habit to worry about the tick thing but I gave you a green one for that.

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  28. Scott Chris (6,178 comments) says:

    Stuff reader World’s Best Eleven:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation/assignments/who-d-make-your-cricket-world-xi/9620582/A-red-hot-World-XI-test-side

    Trivia question: Who is a current world test batsman with the highest career average? Surprising (for me) answer:

    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/282910.html

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  29. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    I wouldn’t bother Scott. There are some of the most retarded picks I have ever seen in this current “Stuff Nation” that it makes me despair at NZ’ers cricket knowledge.

    Like, for example, Brendon McCullum instead of AB De Villiers as wicketkeeper… or Chris “I’m Injured Unless it’s IPL Time” Gayle as a test opener….lol And Shane Watson in the XI you linked to…Shane Watson?!?! He is barely clinging on to his Australian spot

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  30. grumpyoldhori (2,205 comments) says:

    Chris Christie and Bruce Springsteen.

    Hmm, it seems Springsteen does not think that much of Christie.
    The boss versus the bully ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKHV0LLvhXM

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  31. dime (10,213 comments) says:

    good ole bruce, net worth of about 300 million, still playing the blue collar role. plays at obama pep rallies etc.

    whats even sadder is the guy who wants to be bruce following suit (JBJ)

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  32. Scott Chris (6,178 comments) says:

    And Shane Watson in the XI you linked to

    Well who would be your all-rounder if you were going to have one? BTW I don’t think these articles are meant to be authoritative, hence the ‘reader’ disclaimer.

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  33. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    ” wouldn’t bother Scott. There are some of the most retarded picks I have ever seen in this current “Stuff Nation” that it makes me despair at NZ’ers cricket knowledge.”

    One guy had Trent Boult in the mix….

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  34. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    “Well who would be your all-rounder ”

    Are we allowed to pick Kallis?

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  35. dime (10,213 comments) says:

    “Are we allowed to pick Kallis?”

    not anymore :(

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  36. dime (10,213 comments) says:

    All rounder rankings.

    1 R. Ashwin IND 388
    2 Shakib Al Hasan BAN 362
    3 V.D. Philander SA 335
    4 S.C.J. Broad ENG 291
    5 S.R. Watson AUS 260
    6 M.G. Johnson AUS 246
    7 R.J. Harris AUS 215
    8 D.W. Steyn SA 203
    9 T.G. Southee NZ 202
    10 D.J.G. Sammy WI 195

    In a world XI im not sure youd really need a proper all rounder.

    Steyn, Johnson, Philander and a spinner would take care of most sides.. im sure the odd batsmen can bowl a few spinners.

    Actually, the wicketkeeper is the allrounder

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  37. big bruv (14,217 comments) says:

    Wish I had not gone and got tickets to the Springsteen now. (:

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  38. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Well who would be your all-rounder if you were going to have one? BTW I don’t think these articles are meant to be authoritative, hence the ‘reader’ disclaimer.

    I know, but I still lol at how some people can make such ridiculous picks…it reminds me of the reader comments on cricinfo….One comment I saw earlier in the week lined up the current Indian test team against the South African team and dissected which player man for man on each team was better…this guy managed to argue that all 11 Indian players were better than their counterparts….Steyn inferior to I Sharma etc…might have been Tinny now I think of it?

    IMO better to include a specialist in either batting or bowling rather than an inferior all-rounder who will be inconsistent in both – Jacob Oram and James Franklin are currently flashing neon in my head as two examples closer to home that were persisted with for far too long. As the saying goes, an all rounder should be able to make the team in either batting, bowling or both.

    Out of left field – why not Shakib Al-Hasan? Pretty sure he is close to No 1 ranked all rounder in all formats…he could be the spinner

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  39. big bruv (14,217 comments) says:

    Dime.

    I don’t rate those rankings. In my book you have to call a keeper/batsmen an all rounder. If that is the case then AB de Villiers is by far the best all rounder in the world (as well as being the best batsmen)

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  40. Fletch (6,528 comments) says:

    Queen Michelle holds a secret birthday banquet at the palace, attending by Hollywood A-listers, CEOs, music stars like Stevie Wonder and Beyonce (who performed), and athletes.

    http://pagesix.com/2014/01/20/beyonce-plays-at-michelle-obamas-secret-b-day-bash/?_ga=1.126700168.480685778.1390012196

    These leaders don’t give a shit about their people or their country; they’re in the White House to live high on the hog, take vacations, and party it up. I can see why they tried to keep it a secret.

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  41. Kea (13,559 comments) says:

    flipper, I don’t know what you call a group of scantily clad men groping each other in a paddock, but I know it is not sport.

    Rugby is a pursuit favoured by closet gays, but only those who lack the balls to stand up individually. Most Rugby players are cowards and not nearly so brave one on one and sober. Beating people up and raping women is all good when they know they are backed up.

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  42. grumpyoldhori (2,205 comments) says:

    Dime, the new rich are amusing, Springsteen bought his daughter a horse so she could take part in top ranked gee gee riding.
    Must be a bit tough when some peasant of a NZ bricklayer can show his betters how to ride.

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  43. Samuel Smith (276 comments) says:

    Which seats, if any, will the Maori Party hold after the next election?

    My prediction is zero.

    Hone holds, Sykes beats Flavell, and Turia’s seat goes back to Labour.

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  44. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    An ‘Allrounder’ is a batsman and a bowler- Sobers, Kallis, Botham, Imran, etc etc
    A Wicketkeeper is a Wicketkeeper….end of story.

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  45. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Unless you are the West Indies…in which case a wicketkeeper is 60% of your team

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  46. big bruv (14,217 comments) says:

    Longknives.

    “A Wicketkeeper is a Wicketkeeper….end of story.”

    Oh dear!!….Seems like you might be stuck in the 70’s.

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  47. MT_Tinman (3,317 comments) says:

    big bruv (11,920 comments) says:
    January 21st, 2014 at 10:57 am
    Dime.

    I don’t rate those rankings. In my book you have to call a keeper/batsmen an all rounder. If that is the case then AB de Villiers is by far the best all rounder in the world (as well as being the best batsmen)

    I agree re the ‘keeper/allrounder but as to the best, surely, depending on the format and location Sangakara must be close.

    Nick, given that SA failed to defeat NZ at home, if the fellow comparing the Jaapies and Indians was talking ODIs he may have been correct.

    As an aside the comments following the Sharjah travesty last night make hysterical reading.

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  48. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    A wicketkeeper- while being one of the most important men on the field, is NOT an ‘Allrounder’.
    Why try to rewrite the cricket rulebook?

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  49. MT_Tinman (3,317 comments) says:

    Longknives (3,748 comments) says:
    January 21st, 2014 at 11:13 am
    An ‘Allrounder’ is a batsman and a bowler- Sobers, Kallis, Botham, Imran, etc etc
    A Wicketkeeper is a Wicketkeeper….end of story.

    Did you read the listed allrounder rankings?

    About three genuine allrounders in the whole bloody list.

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  50. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Travesty how? Serious question, all I know is Pak pulled off a great chase and SL sounded like they lost because they were playing for a draw. Interesting game by the looks

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  51. Manolo (14,169 comments) says:

    Which seats, if any, will the Maori Party hold after the next election?

    My prediction is one. The others will return to those loved by Maori: the patronising socialists.
    Handouts and freebies anyone?

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  52. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    It’s a travesty Jake Oram didn’t make the list. Truly the best since Sobers.

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  53. MT_Tinman (3,317 comments) says:

    An allrounder (a genuine one) is a fellow who could hold his place in the team with either of his two disciplines.

    Why is ‘keeping not one of those disciplines?

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  54. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    Jake Oram- the ‘T20 Specialist’.
    Greatest NZ cricketer since Dipak Patel…

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  55. dime (10,213 comments) says:

    “I don’t rate those rankings. In my book you have to call a keeper/batsmen an all rounder. If that is the case then AB de Villiers is by far the best all rounder in the world (as well as being the best batsmen)”

    yep. agree.

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  56. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    “Why is ‘keeping not one of those disciplines?”

    I don’t know Tinman- Why is Gully not called 7th slip?? It is what it is…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allrounder

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  57. MT_Tinman (3,317 comments) says:

    Four days, one session of boring timewasting, two sessions of maniacal chasing with, based on reports (the early session sent me to sleep – literally) with poor captaincy and fieldsetting allowing the chase to succeed.

    SL had not, apparently, won an away series for 13 years. They still haven’t.

    A travesty indeed – or should that be tragedy? ;-)

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  58. MT_Tinman (3,317 comments) says:

    Longknives (3,751 comments) says:
    January 21st, 2014 at 11:26 am

    I don’t know Tinman- Why is Gully not called 7th slip?? It is what it is…

    6th or 6th and 7th.

    Given that backward point is now called “cover”, forward square leg “mid-wicket” and a slog to cow-corner a “pull” or “sweep” I’m surprised it’s not.

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  59. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    AC Gilchrist was the best Keeper/Batsman I have seen in my lifetime. Just finished his book though- what a boring individual…

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  60. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Longknives – what about Lee Germon?

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  61. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    Or Erv McSweeney?

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  62. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Robbie Hart?

    I’ve got quite a lot of cricket books collected throughout my time. Of them, Jeremy Coney and John Wright’s stand out for NZ. Steve Waugh’s is also very good, a favourite player of mine. Am thinking of getting Ponting’s & Hussey’s

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  63. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    Ian Botham’s is my favourite cricket Autobiography.
    Whilst picking his World XI-
    “Rodney Marsh- A marvellous competitor both on the field and in the bar after the match”

    Now that’s cricket at it’s finest!

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  64. dime (10,213 comments) says:

    “Am thinking of getting Ponting’s & Hussey’s”

    get the audio book version of husseys.. it comes with tinnitus

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  65. Yogibear (375 comments) says:

    I hear Adam Parore is a stand-up guy

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  66. MT_Tinman (3,317 comments) says:

    nickb (3,320 comments) says:
    January 21st, 2014 at 11:45 am
    Robbie Hart?

    Steve Waugh’s is also very good,

    It’s not referred to as Waugh and Peace for nothing.

    I’ve seldom read a boring cricket book.

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  67. grumpyoldhori (2,205 comments) says:

    The ten most prosperous countries in the world.
    Nope sorry right wingers neither Syria or the USA make the top ten.
    Interesting that all the top ten are liberal countries and eight of the top ten are Monarchies.
    So the advantage of becoming a Republic is what ?

    http://www.fastcoexist.com/3021060/visualized/these-10-countries-are-the-most-prosperous-in-the-world-and-they-dont-include-the

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  68. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Hori,

    Wouldn’t you be happy if you were the 80% being supported by the 20%? And surrounded by Scandinavian women all day?

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  69. Than (514 comments) says:

    Which seats, if any, will the Maori Party hold after the next election?

    They’ve got a reasonable chance (30-50%) of winning each of the three electorates they currently hold, and an outside shot (5-10%) at each of the rest. This means their expected number of seats is about (3×0.4)+(4×0.075) = 1.5. Holding one seat or two seats are equally likely outcomes. Getting no seats would be unlucky (15% chance), and getting more than two would be very lucky.

    Whether Hone holds his seat or not depends on Labour. If they made a solid push they could reclaim it, but I’m guessing they won’t. They’ll stand a mediocre candidate and barely campaign.

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  70. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    Can we get back on track here? We were talking cricket until grumpy came along..

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  71. Keeping Stock (9,380 comments) says:

    @nickb – I’m reading Ponting’s autobiography on the iPad at the moment; better than Hussey’s. I’m just up to the Bourbon and Beefsteak chapter :D

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  72. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    That Milne eh? Up to 153.5k the other night….shame he got injured. Here’s hoping he’s not Bond 2.0.

    Great to see Anderson get another good innings….could he be better than Oram? Only time will tell.

    Hope we sweep the Indians….put some egg on the BCCI’s face in light of their hostile takeover of the game. I was reading an interesting article last night about how they bullied NZC out of a 3rd test… I can’t remember the reason now but it was concerning. They are sure to wreck the game in pursuit of the $$$

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  73. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    NZ, despite their improvement, are not going to ‘sweep’ the Indians (Despite their woeful record in this part of the World)..
    Anderson has immense potential- just hope he doesn’t get too caught up in the bullshit world of T20 ‘Hit and Giggle’ that has ruined so many careers..

    I hope Milne comes back- NZ desperately needs some pace in their attack. I mean, I doubt anyone shakes in their boots about the prospect of facing a fired-up Kyle Mills at Eden Park….

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  74. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    What’s the fastest ball ever bowled in NZ? Anyone know?

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  75. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Longknives – Lee reached 161k in NZ back in 2005 I believe. I think that was the same game that Michael Papps got hit twice in the same over and staggered off the field. Maybe his last international also? Maybe Sky should make him a commentator.

    Yes, I agree were are unlikely to sweep anything, but a win in the ODI series would be nice and is not out of the question. The tests will be interesting – on the one hand potentially scary on our flat tracks with Pujara, Kohli et al, but on the other hand seemingly friendly Indian pace bowlers….promises to be interesting

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  76. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    This one?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH3EdnJyhKQ

    *Note the legendary Craig Cumming on strike…

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  77. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    I remember in the early ’80s when Marshall,Garner and Holding toured here they were pretty damn quick. Would love to know how quick Marshall would have been on a speedball radar…

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  78. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    What has happened to angry rambling Flipper? Did he pass out drunk?
    Or has he gone to throw together a posse of his All Black thug mates to teach me, Kea and Bruv a lesson??

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  79. stephieboy (3,525 comments) says:

    Fletch (5,427 comments) says:
    January 21st, 2014 at 11:05 am

    Just love it how the First Lady causes you to loose it and your peace of mind.

    Good job.!

    But obviously a different story is she was white ,a tea bagger and far right Republican.?

    But you’ll enjoy this,

    http://www.bet.com/news/features/vote-2012/news/politics/photos/2012/09/15-black-celebrities-with-republican-ties.html#!110811-sports-boxing-world-mo

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  80. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Longknives – John Wright said Marshall was the quickest he had faced bar Holding and Thommo…makes you wonder why we can only produce a genuinely quick bowler every 20 years. Probably because our pitches are more suited to players like Kyle “White Lightning” Mills

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  81. dime (10,213 comments) says:

    ” Maybe his last international also? Maybe Sky should make him a commentator.” lol

    Anderson – seems to have a good head on his shoulders. hes played 5 tests, im not sure anyone knew what he could do in the short game. its not like he was out there trying to smash everything. his SR is 58..

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  82. dime (10,213 comments) says:

    nick – we dont really produce sprinters either..

    as for sideshow bob mills.. give me strength

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  83. Rowan (2,604 comments) says:

    Dime, not sure how the majority of these can be considered ‘allrounders’ even bowling allrounders, Watson definitely but most of the others are definitely bowlers that can bat a bit, yes they have the odd good innings here and there but how many of the list would actually have a batting average of over say 25.
    How long before Anderson gets himself on the list? just needs enough games.

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  84. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Yep, a century each in tests and ODIs within 6 months of debuting is pretty good for a young all-rounder. Give him some time. Neesham looks good also.

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  85. dime (10,213 comments) says:

    Rowan – the list is a joke. Agree with everything ya said

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  86. Rowan (2,604 comments) says:

    Sangakarra IMO is a better keeper than De Villiers.

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  87. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    dime – too much pavlova and pies leading to lack of fast twitch muscle fiber?

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  88. Rowan (2,604 comments) says:

    Nick B,
    Neesham, you serious? not good enough with either bat or ball to justify a place in the side which is why he can only seem to be the 12th or 13th man in NZs top team which is still way to high IMO.

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  89. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    Now a Test batting average of 57 and 200+ Test wickets bowling a mixture of medium pace and spin is an ‘Allrounder’-

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobers

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  90. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Rowan – haven’t seen that much of him, so I will trust your instincts. We have had a number of dud all rounders burst onto the scene only to fade into obscurity…Grant Elliot as our 3rd seamer in test matches bowling off 5 paces comes to mind.

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  91. Samuel Smith (276 comments) says:

    I was chatting to DPF at the gym. Told me about his his all-time New Zealand XI:

    1. B Poocock
    2. B Hartland
    3. D Murray
    4. D Patel
    5. G Bradburn
    6. L Germon (c, wk)
    7. A. Adams
    8. M. Walker
    9. H. Davis
    10. R deGreon
    11. R Kennedy

    Germon the all-rounder.

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  92. dime (10,213 comments) says:

    “too much pavlova and pies leading to lack of fast twitch muscle fiber?” probably

    it would be nice if we could get islanders playing the game en masse

    maybe they are carrying too much muscle to be good fast bowlers.. need more tall skinny guys are arent playing lock in union!

    why dont we have more indians playing for us? tons live here.. they need to step up too!

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  93. Rowan (2,604 comments) says:

    The ODI rankings is a bit better at least most of these could be considered genuine allrounders, for a few this is marginal

    1 Mohammad Hafeez PAK 411
    2 Shakib Al Hasan BAN 376
    3 S.R. Watson AUS 353
    4 A.D. Mathews SL 351
    5 R.A. Jadeja IND 346
    6 T.M. Dilshan SL 338
    7 Shahid Afridi PAK 306
    8 D.J.G. Sammy WI 273
    9 N.L. McCullum NZ 268
    10 K.J. O’Brien IRE 266

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  94. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    That’s a great line-up Samuel Smith but I’d make room for Matthew Hart and Shane Thompson…

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  95. Samuel Smith (276 comments) says:

    @Longknives Shane Thompson = 120 not out in a chase to win a test.

    M Hart, useless, but more useless than Bradburn and Patel?

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  96. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Clearly you need to find room for Brooke Walker. Look up his sterling record on cricinfo.

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  97. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    Do you remember Shane Thompson’s century? The bulk of those runs were snicks between or over the slips!
    And he started off a ‘pace bowler’ then once it became apparent he was rubbish tried his luck with spin…also rubbish!

    Matthew Hart’s most memorable contribution to NZ cricket was as one of the pot smokers on that dreadful South African tour…

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  98. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    Clearly you need to find room for Brooke Walker. Look up his sterling record on cricinfo.

    Greg Loveridge?

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/37609.html

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  99. Samuel Smith (276 comments) says:

    I had completely forgotten about the pot smoking saga until you raised it. From memory: Hart, Fleming and Parore?

    To be fair, Brooke Walker was no Shane Warne.

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  100. Rowan (2,604 comments) says:

    SS
    Substitute Adams with Brooke Walker and maybe find a place for Cumming or Matthew Bell at opener, then maybe it would be the worst ever NZ 11
    Nickb
    Would probably even have Elliot over Neesham as he is a better batsman, but still no where near a top eleven for me.

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  101. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Had to laugh when I was reading cricinfo last week and it had Bruce Martin as one of around 12 nominees for “debutant of the year” in 2014.

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  102. Rowan (2,604 comments) says:

    Andrew Ellis is another dud allrounder tried in recent years, good enough for Canterbury but didn’t fire a shot for NZ, ODI average for NZ 14 from 15 ODIs compared with first class average of nearly 34. Are there any decent untried allrounders out there that we could blood apart from Anderson?

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  103. Rowan (2,604 comments) says:

    SS
    Maybe a place for Kerry Walmsley also?

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  104. Samuel Smith (276 comments) says:

    Possibly Walmsley instead of Davis.

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  105. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Tama Canning?

    God, I’m feeling depressed….

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  106. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    Wasn’t Tama Canning more famous for his ‘liaison’ with Susan Wood than his cricket?

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  107. Rowan (2,604 comments) says:

    Does Colin Munro bowl enough to be considered a batting allrounder? His first class bowling average is 33, but can probably only be considered as a part timer to fill in a couple of overs here and there.

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  108. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    It says volumes about his cricket if a liaison with Susan Wood brings you more renown, LK. But I didn’t know that, actually.

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  109. MT_Tinman (3,317 comments) says:

    SS Dipak helped knock the Ockers out of their WC. That alone (plus his 99 against the Poms in a test) rules him out of your team.

    Edwards surely would replace the competent (as a ‘keeper) Germon in most teams.

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  110. MT_Tinman (3,317 comments) says:

    nickb (3,331 comments) says:
    January 21st, 2014 at 2:04 pm
    Had to laugh when I was reading cricinfo last week and it had Bruce Martin as one of around 12 nominees for “debutant of the year” in 2014.

    Not a lot of debutants in 2013(?) huh?

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  111. MH (830 comments) says:

    morality of soccer for NZers.
    If a player passes you hack him down from behind.Don’t worry about being sent off the team will just intimidate the ref.
    Ever seen a gutless Rugby Ref? I mean one that won’t move backwards. You get marched 10m for muttering even with your back turned.
    If they had yellow cards in soccer there would be 2 players left at full time.
    In union they have a penalty try,in soccer you get a chance to defend an indefensible act. No lesson learnt,demerit points system. And the dives and the fake injury,utter disgrace,laughable,all part of the beautiful game though,just what young boys need as role models.
    In Union you have a bit of manly biff,in soccer just a hissy fit and slaps all round and then if a goal scored a gay old time near the corner flag.
    No wonder we have so many women school teachers,rugby rules requires a bit of thought. No wonder boys aren’t doing well in the last 30yrs.
    It’s a beautiful game though, and the fans,the Duke of Wellington summed them up.
    And what part of NZ is it’s pofessional team based, and what accents does one hear from the team and management,I’ll say no more.

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  112. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    Ha ha Dipak was stumbling round the Captain Cook Tavern one night on about day three of a Test match during my glorious Varsity Days (Christ I’m getting on…)- I remember we asked him “Haven’t you got to play tomorrow?” and he just laughed..
    Not an overly glorious era for NZ cricket- The South African Pot smoking debacle was about the same time..

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  113. big bruv (14,217 comments) says:

    nickb

    Re your question as to why we do not produce truly quick bowlers more often (150km plus)

    The answer for that is really quite simple, you cannot “make” or “produce” a fast bowler. In theory you can teach a talented athlete to bat, you can teach him to bowl spin, you can teach him to be a medium pacer or seam bowler. What you cannot do is teach them to bowl fast.

    Fast bowling is like sprinting, you are either born with the ability to bowl really fast (just as you are born with the ability to sprint quickly) or not. No amount of teaching is going to change that.
    The added problem we have in NZ is that most of the talented young sportsmen seem to be attracted to a minor world game played with an oval ball, goodness knows how many of them waste their talent on a rugby field when they could be earning far more than even the All Black captain playing cricket if they had the ability to play a real game at international level.

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  114. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Interesting bruv….I was reading something recently by Martin Crowe (I think) about the number of supposedly “fast” bowlers that go through our academy and youth grade cricket system, only to have coaches mess with their actions, he was very scathing, as have some other commentators on Sky recently…same comments were made about our batsmen and the emphasis on “biomechanics” instead of teaching good batting basics like balance, technique, still head etc. Very interesting.

    What is for certain is we have a hell of a lot of players burst onto the scene only to disappear shortly thereafter – Papps, Cumming, Sinclair, Vincent, How, Mason, Gillespie, Brownlie, Stewart, Elliot, so on. We seem to be on par with England with players being tried and discarded.

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  115. dime (10,213 comments) says:

    i would have loved to have been clocked in my hey day. i was probably as fast as vettori but feeling like bruce reid (huge BR fan back in the day).

    i freakin loved Abdul Qadir too.

    bruv – “The added problem we have in NZ is that most of the talented young sportsmen seem to be attracted to a minor world game played with an oval ball”

    as opposed to playing a minor world game called cricket.

    love em both, hardly giant sports.

    “but but but indian have a billion people yada yada yada”

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  116. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    From memory Abdul Qadir got sent home from NZ tour in ’84 after making no effort to field a ball heading for the boundary (I think he had a clash with Zaheer and/or Miandad)
    Can anyone elaborate?

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  117. dime (10,213 comments) says:

    Longknives – a touch before my time. he must have toured again around 88-90?

    for some reason offspinners bug the crap out of me.. but leggies rule

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  118. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Yup…Legspin is where it’s at. Hence why it is good Sodhi shows some promise…although now you sad bastards have mentioned Brooke Walker and Greg Loveridge in the same thread he is probably jinxed for life :)

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  119. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Anyway, let’s keep up the reminiscing of NZ’s hundreds of mediocre test cricketers in the future.

    It is a great and refreshing change from Allah v Jesus and getting abused for questioning why David Bain washed bloodied clothes before calling 111 (not you Rowan) :)

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  120. Elaycee (4,425 comments) says:

    What’s the fastest ball ever bowled in NZ? Anyone know?

    It’s impossible to compare different eras because in days past, there were no radar guns around. But those with a long tooth may recall the name of Marlborough’s Gary Bartlett – when John R Reid watched Bartlett’s debut ball against the ‘Australian XI’ in 1960 whistle past the nose of Australian opener Ian Craig at the Basin Reserve, the NZ slip cordon took three paces further back from the stumps. Bartlett’s pace was astonishing – and it was a real pity his career was plagued by (back) injury. And no-balls.

    John Reid said some years later (and it’s also in one of his books) that for sheer pace, Bartlett was the fastest of his era – anywhere! I think I still have a photo somewhere of Bartlett bowling the Indian Captain (Nawab of Pataudi) in Christchurch with the stumps flying but the bat hasn’t made it down…..

    But the (official) fastest ball bowled in NZ was by Brett Lee (against NZ at Napier, 2005) clocked at 160.8 kph.

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  121. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    I was only 8 or 9 in ’84 but I remember the controversy when Qadir got marched home…(I was a cricket nut from a very young age)

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  122. dime (10,213 comments) says:

    Speaking of great openers.. Craig Spearman comes to mind! A good Kelston boy haha

    He actually had a semi decent first class record. just terrible playing for NZ though.

    His test record is better than craig cumming.. maybe he should join sky and become the resident know it all loser

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  123. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    “and getting abused for questioning why David Bain washed bloodied clothes before calling 111 (not you Rowan) :)”

    Ha! Not to mention querying why Davey took such an unnatural interest in what knickers his late sister was buried in….(that’s not at all creepy)

    But back to the cricket…

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  124. dime (10,213 comments) says:

    Longknives – same age as me then. i used to watch cricket back then but mainly ODI’s.. test cricket from about 86 onward. the test series in aussie.. the umpire not giving mike whitney out LBW in the final over etc

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  125. Longknives (4,954 comments) says:

    Mike Whitney- Didn’t he present Who Dares Wins with that bimbo in the tank top?
    Tanya something- Also famous for um… ‘entertaining’ the troops in Afghanistan….

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  126. Gosman (324 comments) says:

    The second in my series of posts about the failure of leftist economic and political thinking around the world.

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2014/01/the-grim-reality-of-leftist-policies_21.html

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  127. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    The Manawatu Standard (Fairfax branch of the Labour Party) have really produced a left-wing piece of crap today. Articles engineered by Lees-Galloway, ending with a pro-climate change slur on JK. I have now joined many others, not buying a bloody thing that may have been advertised in any Fairfax publications.

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  128. tedbear (153 comments) says:

    What can be done to prevent so called do-gooders interfering in the lives and behaviour of whales?
    These highly intelligent animals know exactly how to live.

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  129. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    I think I’ve got a new nominee for the pace bowling slot…Lance Hamilton

    Picked from obscurity in the mid 2000s to play ODIs against Australia, only to be demolished by Gilchrist & Co…

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  130. Komata (1,220 comments) says:

    Tedbear

    Re: ‘These highly intelligent animals know exactly how to live’

    Evidently they also know how to die – but just forgot to advise the shore-based, well-intentioned bipeds of their intentions …

    (To be repeatedly thwarted when you and your mates simply want to expire on a beach of one’s choosing, must be VERY frustrating!!)

    Chapter 32 of Adam’s ‘So Long and Thanks For All The Fish’ comes to mind…

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  131. tedbear (153 comments) says:

    Komata, what the “well-intentioned bipeds” really need to do is get their own lives in shape before moving up to those of higher intelligence,

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  132. Komata (1,220 comments) says:

    Tedbear

    I totally agree, but as long as ‘whales’ and other ‘cute cuddly animals’ are seems as being ‘so sexy’ and ‘helpless’ what chance do those who live in the ‘real world’ actually have? Against those sorts of (widely-held) perceptions, humans are SOOO daily (and ‘yuckky’ as well…)

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  133. tedbear (153 comments) says:

    Nearly time for my dinner, but I also want to express my thoughts on the other so-called experts on earthquakes that keep on keeping on about THE BIG ONE.

    To put it mildly, they don’t know shit.

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  134. Samuel Smith (276 comments) says:

    My all time NZ One Day XI:

    1. Ryder
    2. Astle
    3. Williamson
    4. Taylor
    5. Crowe
    6. McCullum (w/k)
    7. Cairns
    8. Anderson
    9. Vetorri (c)
    10. Hadlee
    11. Bond

    Unlucky: Larsen, Harris

    Challenge anyone to form a better team.

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  135. Manolo (14,169 comments) says:

    Big party (orgy?) in Dunedin tonight: http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/peter-dunne-looks-forward-picking-up-threads-5804830

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  136. big bruv (14,217 comments) says:

    Samuel Smith.

    Take out Wiliamson and replace him with Andrew Jones and swap Anderson for Larsen and you have the right team.

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  137. big bruv (14,217 comments) says:

    Elaycee.

    You are correct to say that Bartlett was quick. His career was indeed cut short through injury. However, there was a bigger issue when it came to Bartlett, the man was a terrible chucker.

    His action was not questionable, it was not one that deserved to come under closer scrutiny, it was an out and out chuck.

    Of course, had Bartlett been a Sri Lankan then they would simply have changed the rules of the game to allow his chucking and her could have gone on to take hundreds of test wickets like another well known cheat.

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  138. Samuel Smith (276 comments) says:

    big burv – Can’t agree. I think Williamson will end up with NZ’s all time one day and test run scoring records.

    Larsen is the the more valuable one day bowler, but Anderson can score very quickly and already holds a world record.

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  139. Kea (13,559 comments) says:

    I just don’t get Cricket and nor do any of my friends from interesting countries. At least Thugby is funny, in a camp homo erotic sort of way, but Cricket has no redeeming features. You guys do know the matches are all rigged anyway ? No one is going to stand around in the summer sun all day bored to tears for the sort of money they get, without being on the take.

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  140. big bruv (14,217 comments) says:

    nickb

    “Papps, Cumming, Sinclair, Vincent, How, Mason, Gillespie, Brownlie, Stewart, Elliot”

    Take out Mason and Gillespie who are bowlers and Crowe is dead right. The problem we have in NZ domestic cricket is that our standard is so low that the players you mention can prosper with defective techniques. Once they get to Test level they are quickly found out.

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  141. big bruv (14,217 comments) says:

    Kea

    Firstly, happy new year.

    Now….”No one is going to stand around in the summer sun all day bored to tears for the sort of money they get,”

    Clearly you know less about the game than you have already admitted. Most of the NZ team would earn as much as an All Black and the better players earn far more than any rugby player.

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  142. jcuk (756 comments) says:

    David posted that scary video of an elephanr and a car which reminded me of an earlier event and then later I eremembered I posted it on my blog .

    http://jcuknzs.blogspot.co.nz/search?updated-min=2011-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2012-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=8

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  143. Kea (13,559 comments) says:

    Hi big bruv, yeah but at least the ABs get to grope other blokes and get a bit of man love in. Cricket has none of that, they just have to stand in a sunny paddock all day waiting until they can stroll off the field, pick up the bribe money, and get shit faced drunk to numb the boredom.

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  144. stephieboy (3,525 comments) says:

    American Baseball heads and shoulders above cricket,,

    And a lot more entertaining.!

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  145. Kea (13,559 comments) says:

    10 Hours of Paint Drying

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  146. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Kea,

    You (apparently) are female. You. Will. Never. Get. It.

    At the risk of being sexist, I have yet to meet a woman who has understood even a moderate level of cricket’s rules. It is simply too nuanced and complex for the female mind. They prefer the instant gratification of, say, The Bachelor or Keeping up With the Kardashians.

    If any male readers find one, marry them.

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  147. Kea (13,559 comments) says:

    nickb, wants a girl so he can talk about cricket rules with her.

    What a catch ladies ! LOL :)

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  148. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Stephieboy –

    A bunch of roided shrivelled dick gorillas injecting each other in the butt before going out to have one attempt to hit a ball into a crowd of obese and obnoxious yanks? No thanks

    Edit: By your logic cricket would be a better sport if there were fistfights when a batsmen gets hit by the ball??

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  149. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    No Kea, preferably one that already understands it. Unless taught at birth cricket remains forever as unfathomable as nuclear physics.

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  150. Kea (13,559 comments) says:

    nickb, gorillas injecting each others butt, sounds a lot like the ABs to me.

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  151. Kea (13,559 comments) says:

    No Kea, preferably one that already understands it. Unless taught at birth cricket remains forever as unfathomable as nuclear physics.

    Oh, so you want a man. That explains you slyly introducing “dicks and butts” into the conversation.

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  152. nasska (12,101 comments) says:

    To make a valid comparison of the boredom induced by games of rugby & cricket or the sexual preferences of the players involved one needs a reference point.

    Soccer anyone? :)

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  153. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Don’t worry Kea, I’m not planning on making the man shortage in NZ any worse for you. It’s already hard enough for hairy backed sheilas (who hate our 2 most popular sports) like yourself to find one.

    Alas, I am already taken by a good woman who I think is slowly learning the rules of the greatest game :)

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  154. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Nasska, on a scale of straight to gay, soccer is absolutely fabulous!

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  155. stephieboy (3,525 comments) says:

    nick b,
    Err not but this is more like it,

    I repeat, head and shoulders above watching paint dry .!

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  156. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Take out Mason and Gillespie who are bowlers and Crowe is dead right. The problem we have in NZ domestic cricket is that our standard is so low that the players you mention can prosper with defective techniques. Once they get to Test level they are quickly found out.

    Agreed…and now our first class games get pushed to the extreme ends of the season to accommodate T20 it’s not going to get any better….

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  157. nasska (12,101 comments) says:

    …”soccer is absolutely fabulous!”….

    The kissing & hugging seen on the average soccer ground would make the gayest nightclub chaste by contrast. :)

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  158. nasska (12,101 comments) says:

    The questions religious parents fear:

    Catholics:
    “Daddy, what is ‘safe sex?’

    Muslim:
    “Daddy, why did Allah make those men blow themselves up?”

    Buddhists:
    “Daddy, am I allowed to swat flies?”

    Jews:
    “Daddy, can I start having pocket money please?”

    Hinduism:
    “Daddy, can we go to McDonalds?”

    Amish:
    “Daddy, wouldn’t we be better off with a tractor?”

    Sikhism:
    “Daddy, can I get a haircut?”

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  159. Rowan (2,604 comments) says:

    Longknives/Nick B
    Now who is it trying to turn this into a DB thread, it is you haters not any supporters, but back to the cricket. It is better than the religous hate threads, thanks Kea, or motormouth demonstrating his total stupidity to the entire country.

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  160. stigie (1,448 comments) says:

    You are way out of line Nasska, had to give you an up tick !~

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  161. Rowan (2,604 comments) says:

    SS
    Might go for Styris over Williamson, as a genuine allrounder, Can shuffle Taylor up to no3 and then have Crowe/Styris at 4 and 5 but it is a pretty good side overall. Is Anderson an all time great yet this early in his career? yes he has been very impressive to date but a bit soon for an all time eleven at this stage, so go for Larsen instead.

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  162. Steve (North Shore) (4,537 comments) says:

    Seems the devil dodgers are scared if the game “Cricket” Some have tried trolling but to no avail.
    Cricket is far more important than Religion – and I worked that out by myself, without a University Degree, and without …
    Fuck I am clever.
    Meanwhile back in normality, the Australian Open I like. Sat/Sun finals yeah!

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  163. Kea (13,559 comments) says:

    Rowan, yeah I bet you have plenty of time for cricket. Are you on Home D again ?

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  164. MT_Tinman (3,317 comments) says:

    big bruv (11,926 comments) says:
    January 21st, 2014 at 6:50 pm
    nickb

    “Papps, Cumming, Sinclair, Vincent, How, Mason, Gillespie, Brownlie, Stewart, Elliot”

    Take out Mason and Gillespie who are bowlers and Crowe is dead right. The problem we have in NZ domestic cricket is that our standard is so low that the players you mention can prosper with defective techniques. Once they get to Test level they are quickly found out.

    Except of course How and Vincent both scored test tons against the Ockers (How in the “lighthouse” test), Brownlie an important half century in a winning test v the same opposition.

    Sinclair a debut double ton.

    Crowe may not know as much as he thinks he does – “quickly” indeed!

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  165. Kea (13,559 comments) says:

    How Islam enlightened the world while the christstains tortured scientists to death.

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  166. Fletch (6,528 comments) says:

    Which scientist was tortured to death, Kea?

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  167. Kea (13,559 comments) says:

    Fletch, you won’t accept the words of your own bible, so I doubt you will accept my humble offerings. Science that did not match with religion was banned and the penalties were hideous.

    But as I say, you can not read the clear words of god, let alone real history.

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  168. Kea (13,559 comments) says:

    Israeli Settler Rabbi Praises Islamic Takeover Of Europe

    “[E]ven if we are in a major war with the region’s Arabs over the Land of Israel, Islam is still much better as a gentile culture than Christianity,” the rabbi claimed.

    “Jews should rejoice at the fact that Christian Europe is losing its identity as a punishment for what it did to us for the hundreds of years were in exile there,” Efrati continued, quoting descriptions from rabbinic literature from the middle ages about atrocities committed by Christians against Jews.

    “We will never forgive Europe’s Christians for slaughtering millions of our children, women and elderly…Not just in the recent Holocaust, but throughout the generations, in a consistent manner which characterizes all factions of hypocritical Christianity

    http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2012/11/israeli-settler-rabbi-praises-islamic-takeover-of-europe-123.html

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  169. Rowan (2,604 comments) says:

    Bugger of Kea, and there is no need to troll your hatred of religion all over GD. Have you ever heard of the concept of ‘freedom of choice’?

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  170. Kea (13,559 comments) says:

    Rowan, I offered no comment of my own. I simply presented what the learned Rabbi said about you Christians.

    Clearly you hate Jews and are a holocaust denier. You should be ashamed. No wonder the Rabbi was compelled to the conclusions he drew.

    And yes I have heard of freedom of choice bigot. I choose what I write and you can choose to not read it.

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  171. Nostalgia-NZ (5,318 comments) says:

    The spinner is away, must have been checking out about the ‘vacuum effect.’

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  172. Kea (13,559 comments) says:

    Rowan further considering the Rabbis words

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-d6pBEIKvc5k/T2uWbJe6IQI/AAAAAAAAAxg/MsnyqHAMlg4/s1600/Martinsen%2BKnud%2BBorge%2B-%2BLegions-Obersturmbannf%C3%BChrer.jpg

    [Just kidding. It is actually some random Catholic guy]

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  173. SPC (5,665 comments) says:

    As the numbers who drink declines laws restricting access to alcohol become tighter and tighter.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25805873
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21586892

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  174. Kea (13,559 comments) says:

    SPC, it is not a decline in drinkers, it is an increase in nanny state and control freaks.

    If alcohol related problems are declining, then why would they be screaming for more laws ?

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  175. SPC (5,665 comments) says:

    Kea, as the number of non drinkers increases (and the number of drinkers who just drink beer and wine bought from the supermarket with shopping) the condemnation of those who drink at pubs, clubs and sports events increases.

    The nanny state and control freaks are those who do not drink at pubs, clubs and at sports events.

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  176. stephieboy (3,525 comments) says:

    Nostalgia ,so someone shoots at close or contact range , the bullet is propelled outwards then the rifle decides to suck it all the contents back in.
    The vacuum effect,eh.!
    Interesting.!

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  177. SPC (5,665 comments) says:

    Shift work really harmful to health.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25812422

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  178. SPC (5,665 comments) says:

    “Samuel Smith (245 comments) says:
    January 21st, 2014 at 6:07 pm
    My all time NZ One Day XI:

    1. Ryder
    2. Astle
    3. Williamson
    4. Taylor
    5. Crowe
    6. McCullum (w/k)
    7. Cairns
    8. Anderson
    9. Vetorri (c)
    10. Hadlee
    11. Bond

    Unlucky: Larsen, Harris

    Challenge anyone to form a better team.”

    Fleming in for Williamson.

    C. Cairns or Anderson (still a little unproven) or L. Cairns.
    Thus a place for Harris or Larsen (a slower bowler harder to score off) or Chatfield.

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  179. Kea (13,559 comments) says:

    stephieboy, yes it is fascinating this vacuum effect.

    For decades technicians in labs have studies ballistics with the aid of high speed cameras and numerous measuring devices. Things you would not even imagine have been studied in minute detail. Millions of firearm enthusiasts are constantly looking for new things that they may have missed. But never ever has this vacuum effect been observed.

    Thanks to David Bain supporters, we now know that the gasses exiting the barrel at supersonic speed along with a projectile at around 1000 fps, actually sucks random stuff “deep inside” the barrel against the flow of all that high speed gas and lead.

    I reckon Nosty deserves a Nobel Prize for this finding and will probably get one if he can ever explain it.

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  180. Kea (13,559 comments) says:

    SPC, yeah probably right. There are tons of sly boozers who drink way too much at home. A recipe for disaster if you ask me.

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  181. Rowan (2,604 comments) says:

    Yawn, Stephie the Bain dunce and the bird brained freak.
    You really showing your ‘expertise’ on this one, maybe you really were needed at the retrial to counter Peter Ross evidence? Ross clarified in response to a direct question from Justice Pankhurst hat the only way the blood could have got in the barrel of the gun was from ‘blowback’ or ‘vacuam’ from the last shot fired being a hard contact wound, as any subsequent firing would have cleared any blood or other matter from the barrel.
    But you know better don’t you Stephiedunce and that ‘it was possible for the blood not to have been from the last shot’ don’t you?

    One does not need to be a ballastics expert to work out the logic behind this one.

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