General Debate 23 January 2014

January 23rd, 2014 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. Samuel Smith (276 comments) says:

    @burv – you still prefer Larsen to Anderson and Jones to Williamson?

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  2. bringbackdemocracy (427 comments) says:

    Good to see the Conservatives going up and NZ First going down in the latest Roy Morgan poll.

    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/labourgreens-start-election-year-edge-over-national-roy-morgan-poll-ck-150903

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  3. martinh (1,257 comments) says:

    Interest rates up and house prices down in Auckland- bad management by National they needed to get on top of the Auckland property boom themselves earlier instead of the interest rates doing it for them in election year.
    People with negative equity and a bigger mortgage payments a going to be peeved

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  4. Samuel Smith (276 comments) says:

    Good to see the Tories down in the latest Roy Morgan poll.

    Judith Collins?

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  5. alex Masterley (1,517 comments) says:

    ss,
    sweated a bit as the Indians got a tad close towards the end.
    Kohli is a class act.
    Anderson. he can definitely hit a ball. selected the wrong club for the ball he went out on. looked like a pitching wedge when the 9 iron would have been better.
    Auckland will be interesting.
    Fine weather forecast.

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  6. SPC (5,619 comments) says:

    Do humans have an innate sense of morality? If so, where does it exist in the brain and how did it get there? BBC’s Horizon shows how scientists looking into the minds of babies and criminals are rewriting our ideas of right and wrong.

    In the hunt for morality, Horizon meets the scientists looking inside the minds of criminals to find out what makes their brains different. If you start out life with parts of your moral machinery broken, how likely are you to have a psychotic destiny?

    Could “defective moral hard-wiring” be used as a defence in court? And what would it take for things to fall out of balance in our “normal” brains? Could we all become natural born killers?

    Horizon finds out just how delicately balanced our brains are.

    http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140122-are-you-good-or-evil

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  7. Keeping Stock (10,342 comments) says:

    Rod Emmerson has delivered another outstanding cartoon in the Herald. We’re sure that Len Brown understands that the life cycle of the moth is pretty short…

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2014/01/emmersons-brown-moth.html

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  8. SPC (5,619 comments) says:

    International Consortium of Investigative Journalists’ data-dump on the Chinese “Communist” elite’s use of offshore tax-havens:

    http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2014/01/explosive.html

    China says no to transparency and blocks access in China to foreign media reports.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25823953

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  9. Manolo (13,780 comments) says:

    Delicious irony: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-22/israeli-jet-parked-next-to-iranian-sparks-davos-thaw.html

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  10. Keeping Stock (10,342 comments) says:

    @ Alex – I saw a comment on Twitter yesterday that both the North and South Stands are pretty much sold out for Saturday, so there should be a bumper crowd in. I’m looking forward to watching the match at Wellington next Friday

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  11. big bruv (13,904 comments) says:

    So, as a nation are we ready for the pathetic, embarrassing and immature reaction if Ella Yelich-O’Connor does not win a Grammy?

    Come to think of it, I am not sure what will be worse, the cringe worthy chest beating and “she’s frum Nil Zeilind” that will occur is Yelich-O’Conner does win or the collective crying if she does not.

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  12. david (2,557 comments) says:

    Jeez you are a grumpy old sod Bruv. What, did you get out of the bed on the wrong side this morning and put your foot in the potty?

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  13. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    Samuel Smith / HamnidaV2 et al:

    Good to see the Tories…

    Since when has a UK based political party been part of a Roy Morgan poll in NZ?

    Only in your dreams.

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  14. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    “So, as a nation are we ready for the pathetic, embarrassing and immature reaction if Ella Yelich-O’Connor does not win a Grammy?”

    What do you reckon they will blame Bruv? Food poisoning or a crooked referee? Maybe Suzy the Waitress or Wayne Barnes will be at the Grammys?
    I can’t wait until this little manufactured pretend musician has had her 15 min of fame and we don’t have to hear her ‘Oh so Worldly’ opinions on everything day in-day out…

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  15. Alan (1,087 comments) says:

    I see some direct transference from Green to Labour happening, that’s to be expected.

    The Green vote last time was artificially high driven by a lacklustre Labour campaign. I expect the Greens to poll no more than 7.5% on election day.

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  16. Nookin (3,344 comments) says:

    Elaycee

    SS is a troll. He has little idea of the meaning of “tory” but knows that it provokes a reaction.

    He had to get that comment in today. It takes his mind off the humungous and irreconcilable split between Labour and the Greens over mining and drilling. This is not a negotiable policy that can be tweaked to keep both parties happy. Their positions (and in the Greens case their position goes to the core of their being) are mutually exclusive.

    Cunliffe is lurching to the centre — looking for his bread and butter. He is about to make the lefties really pissed.

    He is about to learn that he cannot be all things to all people.

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  17. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    Maybe we could draft in Lorde as an opening bowler in our ODI team?

    There is one particular pie thrower in there that needs to shuffle off into low level T20 leagues in his retirement phase…

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  18. Keeping Stock (10,342 comments) says:

    Which particular “pie thrower” is that nickb?

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  19. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    As usual India have a mighty batting line-up but their bowlers are pretty toothless on our tracks- our guys were smashing them round like they were schoolkids. (Unless our batsmen have all morphed into Viv Richards in the space of a few weeks?)

    And Mills has years left at the top Nick! Years I tell ya!

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  20. johnwellingtonwells (137 comments) says:

    Perhaps the margin of errror in the Roy Morgan poll makes all the bleating about changes in party standing nebulous. Gary’s nickname has always been Glitter”

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  21. SPC (5,619 comments) says:

    New ICC arrangements for revenue sharing and tours – money for match fixing?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11190497

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  22. jcuk (687 comments) says:

    Emerson also comments on the anti-Brown mob .. what a disgusting bunch they are.

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  23. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    bruv/longknives – havent seen comment from you about the indian cricket board.

    imagine if the NZRU had the financial muscle to try that shit on!

    “from now on NZ, england and south africa make the decisions. we control the board and the money. if we tour your country, we dont want to play tests cause you suck, we will send our 7’s team” etc etc

    as for the kiwi commentators. are they all sucking up to get an ipl gig? i think ian smith was offering rub n tugs to anyone in an indian shirt last night

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  24. MH (759 comments) says:

    or will the hollywood NZ soccer fraternity (can anyone actually name a NZ soccer player apart from..Rutter ,ruffer Fellon,Adshead wasn’t that a few years ago?)make a big puddle and take a dive all over the stage Oh Lordy,oh Lordy. Will she be singing there as well?

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  25. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    KS – Kyle Mills. Great ODI career but I think he is past it. No pace, no movement, no bouncers…even accuracy not what it was. Get Bennett in there.

    NZC seems to be sucking up to the big 3 and offering them a vote in the hope we can retain some sort of FTP with them and keep the Indian broadcasting rights golden goose….without a lot of thought on the impact of nations like Bangladesh or WI that might not be so lucky..

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  26. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    Dime- Haven’t the All Blacks been making their own rules for years now anyway? (Sending B teams, pulling players out of Super rugby, controlling referees and judiciary etc etc)

    As for the Grammys- They have about as much credibility as the R&R Hall of Fame….
    Jethro Tull for Best Heavy Metal album anyone?

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  27. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    dime – glad to see India are being shown up for being overrated…Kohli, Dhoni and Pujara (in the tests) are the main threats but no one else seems to be in great form….and as for the bowling….lol. None of their pace bowlers could make our team, and Ashwin hasn’t taken a wicket in something like 5 ODIs now.

    Read the cricinfo comments on today’s stories if you want a huge laugh…legions of Indians saying they were cheated out of victory by D/L and that they were the “real” winners. Suck it up chaps….what next, moaning there is no DRS?

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  28. big bruv (13,904 comments) says:

    Samuel Smith

    Jones v Williamson…Jones every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Jones Ave is 44.27, Williamson is 35.88

    Anderson v Larsen. Two different players, Larsen is the better bowler by far. Larsen economy rate is 3.76, Anderson is 6.06.

    If you want to compare Anderson with anybody is should perhaps be C Cairns.

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  29. safesally (47 comments) says:

    THIS POLL WAS A WASTE OF TIME

    ”’This latest New Zealand Roy Morgan Poll on voting intention was conducted by telephone – both landline and mobile telephone, with a NZ wide cross-section of 1,509 electors from January 6 – 19, 2014.”’

    Hands up who wasn’t on their well earned holiday during this period or part thereof?
    Slants it to those not working I suspect.

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  30. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    Bruv

    Are you seriously putting Larsen in your XI at the expense of Tama Canning? You should be an England selector

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  31. Yogibear (366 comments) says:

    I’m just surprised the Emirates Cricket Club isn’t part of the big 3 (4). Its effectively the host of all Pakistan’s home games now and may even challenge for the number 3 spot in $ terms.

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  32. Keeping Stock (10,342 comments) says:

    You’re kidding me, right Nick? I’m no great fan of Mills, but his opening six-over spell last night was brilliant, and match-winning. Dhoni acknowledged that India needed to get a faster start, but Mills, McClenaghan and Southee tied them down.

    Mills went for 5.55 per over from his full nine over spell when India needed 6.97 rpo from the get-go. His first spell was 6-1-25-0, an excellent opening spell. Sure, he went for 30 off three when the slog was on at the end, but the reason that India needed 10-plus per over in the closing stages was largely because Mills and his mates had the squeeze on them earlier.

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  33. Keeping Stock (10,342 comments) says:

    On a lighter note nickb; did you notice that Sky Sport’s WASP disappeared in the latter stages of last night’s match. It is rumoured that India had it overturned on a DRS decision :P

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  34. MH (759 comments) says:

    Is David Beckham coming for another tour,or will his wife play instead this time? Who was that Scot that sold NZ’s soccer voting rights to Nelson mendala?

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  35. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    Yup, had an ok game last night, still not a fan….building up to the 2015WC and I hope Milne comes back into the XI for him when he is ready.

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  36. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    On a lighter note nickb; did you notice that Sky Sport’s WASP disappeared in the latter stages of last night’s match. It is rumoured that India had it overturned on a DRS decision :P

    KS – it seems like another TV gimmick which doesn’t add much to the viewing IMO…like “flashing bails”. It had India as only a 13% chance to win in the first game when Kohli and Dhoni were both in (I went to bed thinking they would take it out for sure).

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  37. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    We are in agreement then- The legendary Kyle Mills should be retained for another 150 matches!
    You just can’t beat a bad haircut and dribbly medium pace…

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  38. big bruv (13,904 comments) says:

    I admit that I am not happy at the way India, Aussie and England are looking at running the game, however Kiwi sports fans (if they are to be consistent) should have no issue with what the “big three” are attempting to do.

    After all, those three are simply doing what the NZRU has done for some time.

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  39. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    Longknives – don’t forget his “aggressive” style of play leading to a disciplinary record for sledging….not sure about you but I wouldn’t be sledging the likes of Graeme Smith if I floated my bowling down the pitch like that…

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  40. bc (1,367 comments) says:

    David @ 8.36am
    I know it’s still early in the day, but I’m calling it – comment of the day.
    Priceless, and so true.

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  41. Keeping Stock (10,342 comments) says:

    Horses for courses nickb; on a slow deck like Hamilton last night, Milne would probably have been cannon fodder, especially when the slog was on. On faster, bouncier surfaces like Napier and the Auckland drop-in, Milne would be the preference. But isn’t it good that we’re finally spoiled for choice?

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  42. Bob (497 comments) says:

    Looks like labour and the Greens are in serious disagreement already over deep sea drilling. Labour are generally fairly sensible and experienced. They know we need the economic boost from oil. The Greens are pie-in-the-sky types who seem to have little idea of the effects of their policies if they were to be implemented. Towards the end of the year and especially near the election it will be interesting to see how Labour and the Greens are getting on. If they win will the Greens knuckle down to Labour or will there be serious rifts?

    I almost wish the Left wins just to see the fireworks.

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  43. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    “Dime- Haven’t the All Blacks been making their own rules for years now anyway? (Sending B teams, pulling players out of Super rugby, controlling referees and judiciary etc etc)”

    thats true. thats exactly like taking over the entire game with two mates…

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  44. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    I had a quick look at the indian line up the other day.

    apart from dhoni and the other dude, they are all average 25-32 outside of india. i suspect if you check the averages in south africa, aussie, england and nz they wont be flash at all.

    no wonder they want the game played on dusty flat tracks.

    their batting line up isnt bad.. its just that once the big two are gone ya start feeling quite confident!

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  45. Sofia (857 comments) says:

    With portions of the yet to be released TPP deal said to allow international corporations to seek compensation in markets damaged by local law, it may be interesting to see what a class action against Cola companies can actually achieve.

    And if it is initiated by Australian lawyers, but using New Zealand evidence how will such compensation be apportioned.
    In fact could there be run on effects – if Coke suffers market damage to improve public health, to what extent may that also damage the sales of medications big pharmacy corporations offer for Type 2 Diabetes treatment and heart conditions?
    The TPP could be a real little ripper.

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  46. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    dime – wonder if there is any truth to the rumours the BCCI told NZC not to prepare green seamers for tests.

    I remembered when the wickets looked like the outfield back in the 2002 series and Bond destroyed them…that was perhaps a bit extreme but I will be seriously pissed if they are low and slow and their spinners get lots of assistance..

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  47. Yogibear (366 comments) says:

    Lets be clear about India – John Wright turned them from a talented but disorganized (and occasionally corrupt – ref Azza) bunch of individuals into a coherent and disciplined unit.

    Without Wright, they are slowly descending back to where they came.

    Its a tragic loss for NZ that Wright couldn’t stomach the game’s politics back here and stick around to make a meaningful contribution

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  48. Jack5 (5,137 comments) says:

    Is the Hooerald the most Left-wing newspaper since the break-up of the Soviet Union?

    It’s worse – Izvestia and Pravda weren’t politically correct.

    Look at its tripe:

    An Australian woman politician daring to sit in the front row of a Maori function (the Hooerald reports it from the angle that the Aussie lady seemingly isn’t bothered by what the Hooerald calls her faux pas.

    Resurrecting Len Brown, the trivial problems of NZ’s handful of Muslim women, Lundy’s lawyer paying his own way to London for the Privy Council hearings and Ken Ring, who ties the weather to the Moon, links the latest of the recurring pilot-whale strandings to the North Island earthquake.

    The only way to get a decent newspaper in Auckland for the last days of print media will be if a Korean evangelist-millionaire buys the rag and puts it back on track.

    As for the doomed Hooerald staff, Radio NZ’s Labour Programme will just have to extend its media lectures from the present Tuesdays and Sunday mornings to provide more piece work.

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  49. Manolo (13,780 comments) says:

    Corrupt communists: http://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2014/jan/21/china-british-virgin-islands-wealth-offshore-havens

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  50. Scott Chris (6,139 comments) says:

    Larsen economy rate is 3.76, Anderson is 6.06.

    Larsen dibbly-dobblied on pitches that were made of mud and glue. He’d get his arse spanked in today’s game. And he couldn’t bat for shit so why compare him with an all-rounder?

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  51. flipper (4,068 comments) says:

    I have no opinion on whether Mr Lundy is guilty of murder

    BUT ….

    The Crown’s latest gerrymander does not look good.
    <b. A spokesman for Mr Finlayson confirmed legal aid funding for the Privy Council was refused on the basis of a legal opinion of Philip Morgan QC, who is now leading the Crown case against Lundy.

    Source NZ Herald today

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  52. Paulus (2,627 comments) says:

    Forget what Cunliffe says today – if it between them and Government they will cave in easily with the Green Taliban wants.

    The Greens are not worried by what Cunliffe says. They have the agenda, and the advantage and will continue to do so right up to the election.

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  53. Pete George (23,568 comments) says:

    Good to see the Conservatives going up and NZ First going down in the latest Roy Morgan poll.

    Conservatives didn’t go down, they went up 0.5% on the last Roy Morgan poll to 2.5%, which is within their normal poll wobbles.

    Small parties don’t trend much, it’s far more common for them to wobble around until the last couple of weeks of the election campaign.

    All Roy Morgan polling on small parties since the 2011 election – Small party trends with Roy Morgan

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  54. david (2,557 comments) says:

    Comparing the running of world rugby to the running of world cricket (big bruv 9:41 am) might be valid if the Rugby Union was chaired and run by NZ instead of by some shithole also-ran, second rate playing outfit based somewhere west of the Brecon Beacons.

    Cricket OTOH is chaired, run and largely financed out of India and even the Poms have to suck it up and ask “how high?” when the Indians say “JUMP”

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  55. grumpyoldhori (2,362 comments) says:

    Top ten prosperous countries in the world.
    Strange that they are all liberal countries and eight out of the top ten are Monarchies.
    Nope the USA does not make the top ten, when did the US ever worry about the people they call peasants.

    Yet some in this country want to copy the USA and Iran by becoming republics.

    http://www.miratelinc.com/blog/10-most-prosperous-countries-in-the-world/

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  56. Manolo (13,780 comments) says:

    Mark Steyn nails it: http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9112201/ship-of-fools-2/

    Yes, yes, just to get the obligatory ‘of courses’ out of the way up front: of course ‘weather’ is not the same as ‘climate’; and of course the thickest iciest ice on record could well be evidence of ‘global warming’, just as 40-and-sunny and a 35-below blizzard and 12 degrees and partly cloudy with occasional showers are all apparently manifestations of ‘climate change’; and of course the global warm-mongers are entirely sincere in their belief that the massive carbon footprint of their rescue operation can be offset by the planting of wall-to-wall trees the length and breadth of Australia, Britain, America and continental Europe.

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  57. Rowan (2,396 comments) says:

    Flipper
    agreed, I don’t really have a strong opinion either but don’t think the crown have a hope in hell of gaining another guilty verdict on the flimsy evidence that there is.

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  58. Rowan (2,396 comments) says:

    Great to now be 2-0 up against India, it seemed very much like the Napier game with the Indian batsman, Kohli & Dhoni putting in a decent effort but leaving to much for there bowlers to do at the end, great batting again from Williamson, Taylor and Anderson.

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  59. Rowan (2,396 comments) says:

    Mills is ok, but getting a bit old but with Milne out I’d keep him in the eleven, he obviously is getting towards the end of his career, but would have him over Bennett and there is not that many decent alternatives although confused as to why Hesson will only play Boult in Tests and not ODIs as he would be a better option than either of them.

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  60. TMC (75 comments) says:

    Turns out it’s not just NZ that is doing well but the whole world is in a better position than it has ever been. It’s an important thing to think about as Labour will no doubt roll out stories of the economy only benefiting ‘John Key and his mates’ and the media will lap up their poverty stories. So when Cunliffe starts spouting about ‘hope dying in the eyes of the young’ and other such nonsense, it might pay to remind him of actual stats, not just in NZ but across the world.

    And perhaps this guys knows a bit more about it, have a read: http://annualletter.gatesfoundation.org/

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-21/bill-gates-sees-no-poor-countries-left-by-2035-in-annual-letter.html

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  61. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    Correct Rowan, don’t see any reason Boult is not in the limited overs mix. He is our best test strike bowler and surely more accurate than McClenaghan who goes for plenty. Surely now is the time to get him in with the 2015 CWC beckoning….

    BTW, announcement for you cricket fans on here – I just pre-registered for 2015WC tickets – they go on sale for 48 hours on 5 Feb before they get sold to the general public. NZ v Aus pool game on 28/2/15 at Eden Park…that’ll be a cracker

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  62. Rowan (2,396 comments) says:

    Nickb
    McClenagan is a good attacking strike bowler who is needed for his wicket taking ability, sure he is going to go for runs as he is not a defensive bowler, he is like Mitchell Johnson in that way, so is needed in the eleven, with Milne out you Southee, McClenagan and Boult would be a good pick but Hesson seems to have decided that Boult only plays tests so we are stuck with Mills in the meantime.

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  63. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    Yep not doubting McClenaghan’s strike ability just the logic (or lack thereof) for Trent Boult being in the outer in limited overs. Can’t make sense of it…

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  64. Nostalgia-NZ (5,213 comments) says:

    Nookin 8.54

    ‘Cunliffe is lurching to the centre — looking for his bread and butter. He is about to make the lefties really pissed.’

    Where else was he going to go? He’s got to give the boot to the unions as well, or at least form a mature and public relationship with them that reflects the times, and accept that the Unions are on their way down the gurgler and need to reposition themselves or die. Add to that, give Russell one in the chops and he may well find himself in the centre. He might also politely tell fat bastards why they are so fat, because they eat too much. On another thread this morning DPF talks about the parent’s needing to be educated about diets for children. Leftie talk if I ever heard it, the kids are not fat because their parents need educating. There would not genuinely be a person in NZ who doesn’t know that what sort of food is eaten, and how much, is the cause of being overweight.

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  65. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    International Consortium of Investigative Journalists’ data-dump on the Chinese “Communist” elite’s use of offshore tax-havens:

    SPC,

    Whilst any exposure of the corrupt Chinese ruling classes is to be applauded, the ICIJ strike me more as a warped group of leftists who will use the stolen private financial information of innocent people to push certain political viewpoints.

    Most of their prior “exposes” have involved the leaking of innocent people’s private financial information that could conceivably have placed those people at risk of identity theft, fraud or worse.

    What’s more, any organisation in which Nicky Hager is a prominent figure is unlikely to win too much credibility.

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  66. SPC (5,619 comments) says:

    China says no to transparency and blocks access in China to foreign media reports.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25823953

    The Chinese government’s protection of “data privacy” from “leftists” is an inspiration in times when the American government is … spying on financial transactions of the public that were supposedly secure.

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  67. Rowan (2,396 comments) says:

    The nutjobs making more predictions, this time the earthquakes ‘are’ linked to whale strandings not the moon phases.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11190507

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  68. stigie (1,198 comments) says:

    And back to the cricket….I think Mills is a better option than Trent Boult in ODIs.

    Not to sure, but i think Boult has a few niggles anyway !~

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  69. stephieboy (3,099 comments) says:

    Rowan.!

    The irony.

    SPC . The US Government filters and censors what its people can search or not on the internet.?

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  70. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    I see the gestapo have requested all notes and emails from the author of the Dot com book.

    Some spurious excuse.

    hope they get beaten in court once more.

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  71. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    Being such a huge fan have you bought the album V2??

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/music/news/article.cfm?c_id=264&objectid=11190331

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  72. Manolo (13,780 comments) says:

    The enemies within: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/22/ex-epa-official-told-lawmakers-project-to-modify-dna-capitalism/

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  73. edhunter (547 comments) says:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news/9641878/Power-pole-crash-a-320k-write-off

    Don’t get me wrong this accident has definitely cost the bloke a pretty penny, $360000 for the car & $14000 lamp post. But the $750.00 dollar fine is lamer than a slap with a wet bus ticket, not sure what the solution is but there surely must be a better way.

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  74. edhunter (547 comments) says:

    And sadly reading reports on Michael Schumacher’s condition & prognosis if it was me I’d want the plug pulled, not for a second believing that I know the fight & determination that it takes to be a world champion & whether he has made any such wishes known to his own family, but my family know my wishes & one would hope most fervently that my wishes would count for something.

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  75. RichardX (326 comments) says:

    Rowan (1,501 comments) says:
    January 23rd, 2014 at 12:04 pm
    The nutjobs making more predictions, this time the earthquakes ‘are’ linked to whale strandings not the moon phases.

    Surely you are not denigrating a “nutjobs” belief just because there is no scientific evidence to support it

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  76. Manolo (13,780 comments) says:

    The hopeless DomPost, a shameless left-wing rag, starts its pro-Labour campaign:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/editorials/9638452/Editorial-A-desperate-dance-for-power

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  77. cha (4,020 comments) says:

    The cadaver within the cadaver continues to live function.

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/22/22404705-fetus-of-texas-woman-on-life-support-distinctly-abnormal-family-lawyers-say?lite

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  78. nasska (11,525 comments) says:

    cha

    It won’t bother the Godnutters…..heroic intervention will be forced upon the medically qualified by the religiously deluded.

    After all, the world is short of deformed, brain dead bunches of cells & we can’t afford to lose any!

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  79. Reid (16,471 comments) says:

    Didn’t work. Bugger.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tony-blair-subjected-to-humiliating-citizens-arrest-at-tramshed-restaurant-shoreditch-9073064.html

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  80. cha (4,020 comments) says:

    Camera 5 @ 2 minutes.

    http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx?ev_id=20140106X95024&key=1

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  81. RF (1,399 comments) says:

    Just seen the greasy silent t on TV. What’s wrong with his face. Lop sided smirk tends to piss potential voters away in droves. Nasty piece of shit.

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  82. cha (4,020 comments) says:

    Akureyri, Iceland August 5 2013.

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  83. publicwatchdog (2,596 comments) says:

    In my considered opinion, support for PM John Key and National will continue to drop, as layer after layer of the New Zealand ‘corrupt, corporate onion’ is revealed ……..

    I predict that 2014 will be the year that New Zealand is rocked to the core by a series of corrupt political / corporate scandals, the same way New South Wales was similarly rocked by Police corruption scandals in the late 1980s.

    As a result, I predict a significant growth in public support for legislative change that will enshrine a framework for genuine ‘transparency and accountability’ at both central and local government level, and within the judiciary.

    We shall see how many political parties ‘pick up the ball’, and incorporate ‘anti-corruption / pro-transparency’ policies as part of their 2014 manifestos.

    Given that ‘words are cheap’, the next thing for the voting public to consider will be the PROVEN track record of political parties and candidates in actively supporting ‘anti-corruption / pro-transparency’ policies.

    2014 is going to be a VERY interesting year ………… :)

    Penny Bright

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  84. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    Viking2 (10,351 comments) says:
    January 23rd, 2014 at 12:43 pm

    I see the gestapo have requested all notes and emails from the author of the Dot com book.

    Some spurious excuse.

    hope they get beaten in court once more.
    ============================
    ah I see that their are still plenty of Stalins children about.

    You just don’t get it do you.
    Its not about Dot Com its about infringing the principles of freedom without interference fron state Nazi’s at any whim. Evenmore so as it requires compliant theft from other taxpayers to fund these state troopers.
    I can think of many better ways to spend taxpayers money than to fight commercial fights.

    As attitude here is what happened to one of my older lady staff this morning on her walk to work. The God squad were doing bus inspections at our local bus company. A good and sensible legimate thing that they do. One goon happened to come out to his state suppliued car at the same time as my well dressed staff member walked down the street. He accosted her for no reason at all and demanded to knwo where she was going. At about 8.45 am.
    None of his business.

    and do you know why?

    Yes this lady is maori. A nicer person as you can meet.

    fucking racist arsewipe who calls himself a policeman , an upholder of citicens rights and the rights of individuals, not.
    I had noticed the prick eyeing me up when I arrived at work. Total piece of shit in uniform.

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  85. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    Looks like the whiz ki9ds atthe Reserve Bank are floundering around with no idea of what happening the real world.

    They seem unable to understand that ya just cannot control or beat the market without screwing up somewhere or with someone.

    The Reserve Bank has gone into full reverse over plans to force the country’s big four banks to include personal loans and credit card debt in their loan to value ratios (LVRs) on residential lending.

    And not only has the RBNZ yielded to lobbying from the big banks on the issue – but it has now done a complete u-turn and freed up conditions for smaller banks, such as Kiwibank – which were previously obliged to wrap personal loans and credit card debt up in the LVR calculations.

    The major back down from the central bank was contained among three documents it issued just prior to Christmas, including a consultation paper on the RBNZ’s abrupt about-turn late last year to allow new house builds to be exempt from the so-called “speed limits” on high LVR lending.

    But in order to control apparently you become a big risk once you own 5 houses or more. FFS this “keys mate” is a wanker.

    posed that if a bank had recourse to four or more dwellings owned by the borrower, then the loan “could no longer be classified as a residential mortgage loan”.

    After submissions, this has now also been amended, with the figure increased to five or more dwellings.

    The RBNZ in its pre-Christmas paper said there was “general agreement” that further clarification on the boundaries between asset classes would be useful.

    But some submitters pointed out that the definition of four dwellings was “insufficiently precise” and that an investor could have more than one dwelling on a single title, e.g. units or flats.

    “A few [submitters] argued that drawing the boundary at a specific number would encourage customers to split their borrowing across more than one lender, potentially limiting a bank’s ability to assess the customer’s credit risk and increasing overall risk, and disadvantage borrowers with considerable other income which makes repayment of the mortgage not dependent on the rental income those properties generate.”

    The RBNZ said it was increasing the “count threshold” to five properties and greater clarity would be provided as regards the treatment of multiple dwellings within a property.

    “The Reserve Bank is of the view that anyone with more than five properties, regardless of whatever other income sources or revenue streams may exist, should be treated as running a small business. To avoid further confusion, this would mean treating those loans as corporate property loans.”

    FFs how naive or stupid are this lot.
    http://www.interest.co.nz/property/68145/reserve-bank-stages-complete-back-down-plans-have-all-banks-include-personal-loans-an

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  86. nasska (11,525 comments) says:

    I was talking to a guy in the pub last night.

    I asked him, “What do you for a living?”

    He said, “I’m a plasterer at TVNZ.”

    I asked further, “So you work in the scenery department?”

    “No, make-up. I do Winston Peters every time he’s interviewed on the news.”

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  87. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    nasska, I can’t remember last time I watched the news at six. Do they still have that watery eyed blonde bimbo reading a teleprompter to the sheeple ?

    http://www.priestsrapeboys.com/

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  88. nasska (11,525 comments) says:

    I’ve been dodging TV news for years Kea…..if I wanted to be brainwashed with watery,socialist crap I’d emigrate to Cuba.

    Re your link…..are the buggers still at it? :)

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  89. nasska (11,525 comments) says:

    Anyway their needs are now being catered for. :)

    Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/njkmasb9m7pq5bh/Relief%201.jpg

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  90. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    nasska, oh yes indeed they are my friend.

    At least they tell the truth about the book. I admire them for that. Every thing they say is backed up with a solid biblical reference. Old Fred used to be a civil rights lawyer and did some good work helping minorities. He knows his stuff.

    Of course we differ in our views a little ;)

    http://www.godhatesfags.com/index.html

    http://www.jewskilledjesus.com/

    http://www.godhatestheworld.com/

    http://www.godhatesislam.com/

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  91. nasska (11,525 comments) says:

    I can identify a little with http://www.godhatesislam.com/ Kea. Islam doesn’t do much for me either. :)

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  92. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    nasska, you don’t get to pick and choose which of GOD’s holly commandments you agree with you proud hell bound fag enabler :)

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  93. nasska (11,525 comments) says:

    Heaven for the climate but Hell for the company Kea. :)

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  94. Rowan (2,396 comments) says:

    The only bad thing about beating India is that it gives Australia the (undeserved) world no 1 spot. Beating a woeful England side shouldn’t we worth as much as Bangladesh or Zimbabwe could probably beat England on current form. Outside the current one sided Ashes series Australia have been pretty average in terms of their results, hopefully it won’t stay that way for to long.

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  95. Rowan (2,396 comments) says:

    Stiffyboy

    Look in the mirror, yes you belong to a whole cult full of nutjobs, how you got sucked in god only knows.

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  96. stephieboy (3,099 comments) says:

    Kea (9,746 comments) says:
    January 23rd, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    Thus Westboro Baptist and its sister hate sites like jewskilledjesus.com is where you attempt to scrape the bottom of the barrel.?
    Has Fred Phelps extended to you an invitation to deliver a homily at Westboro?
    Could you clarify.?Was Jesus an Aryan and was his lineage from the House of David as per the Gospel of Matthew just more Jewish propaganda.?

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  97. Steve (North Shore) (4,563 comments) says:

    Penny @ 7.03.
    You predict? Have you been talking to that Moon man Ken Ring?
    How about you predict when you will pay your RATES you loser?

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  98. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    Rowan – who deserves No. 1 spot if not Aus? They are in pretty good form at the moment, and if we are beating WI and India I don’t see who else deserves it. Maybe South Africa – so that series will be good to watch.

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  99. stephieboy (3,099 comments) says:

    Rowan .
    Is Ken ring a David Bain supporter.?
    He could well be as he appears to share their cultist attributes abs aspirations.
    Be grateful if you could check it out.?

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  100. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    stephieboy, did you miss this one ?

    http://www.godhatesislam.com/

    There is nothing special about the jews. Nothing at all. They are not a protected species and being critical of them is no worse than being critical of any other human group.

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  101. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    He could well be as he appears to share their cultist attributes

    This from a defender of a violent bronze age desert cult that worships a sadistic sky fairy LOL :)

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  102. Rowan (2,396 comments) says:

    Nickb
    South Africa maybe, I think they for me are better than Aussie and it wouldn’t take to much to beat England at the mo, yes they have played well, its just good when they are getting beaten by anyone. It wasn’t that long ago that they were thumped in England and India and labelled the worst ever, I think that was the test side specifically, but they haven’t been great away from home in either tests or ODIs.

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  103. Rowan (2,396 comments) says:

    Stiffy
    No idea, you will have to ask him what he believes. What cult are you referring to? I do not belong to any cults and my views are exclusively my own. However it looks like its game over for Kenty’s witch-hunt, he has dug his own grave and is about to get exactly what he deserves.

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  104. stephieboy (3,099 comments) says:

    Kea.
    God hates Islam, God hates faggots and I presume Jews, Pres Obama.?
    What esle does he hate/?

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  105. Nostalgia-NZ (5,213 comments) says:

    Slippy, or stiffy must be referring to the ‘Robin Bain, Kent Parker is God’ Cultists. There’s about 4 of them left, not counting the 66 in psychiatric care.

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  106. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    my views are exclusively my own

    I doubt that.

    I reckon you are into some mainstream bullshit feel good pseudo spirituality thing. I doubt you have conjured up an original thought in your life.

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  107. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    the aussie ODI team doesnt strike a lot of fear into me.

    i think if we played south africa 10 times, we win 1.

    if we play aussie 10 times, we win 3-4.

    as for bowlers – what happened to bracewell? he won us a test in aussie and half vanished.

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  108. cha (4,020 comments) says:

    The Smith & Wesson .460 ”backpack cannon”.

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  109. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    God hates Islam, God hates faggots and I presume Jews, Pres Obama.?
    What esle does he hate/?

    http://www.godhatestheworld.com/

    This one really has some credibility. God once wiped out everything on earth except an incestous family and their equally incestous live stock in an epic melt down. He was no longer happy with simply ripping babies from pregnant women and killing entire civilisations, including their animals.

    Because he loves us ! :)

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  110. Nostalgia-NZ (5,213 comments) says:

    It’s discipline problems with Bracewell I think, or put another way the management are not managing him well. He’s a maverick and a fiery spirit – often key ingredients to a fast and competitive bowler that need to be nurtured rather than taken as offensive.

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  111. stephieboy (3,099 comments) says:

    Nostalgia,

    You’ll find on this link characteristics of a Cult of which you’ll find more than just a few of them reflected in your blogg alone,

    http://www.anandainfo.com/cult_checklist.html

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  112. Reid (16,471 comments) says:

    There is nothing special about the jews.

    Depends which jews you’re talking about. The real ones descended from the tribe of Israel in the Bible or the fake ones who pretend they’re those ones but only because that way all kinds of useful idiots hallucinate that makes everything they do in the world a-ok? Not that, according to said useful idiots, they do anything at all. Apart from defend themselves against rampaging anti-semitism.

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  113. Harriet (4,972 comments) says:

    “…..There is nothing special about the jews. Nothing at all. They are not a protected species and being critical of them is no worse than being critical of any other human group….”

    The one’s that survived you mean?

    The Jews arn’t saying that the earth should be wiped clean of any group of people. They are simply defending themselves against those who say they should be wiped from the earth.

    Yes…..they are a protected species at the moment – as people want to rid the earth of them.

    And they will remain a protected species until the likes of the UN stop listening to the likes of Iran.

    Or otherwise we can then by-pass Wellington and say to the UN that the earth should be wiped clean of all homosexuals……as they do nothing as a sub-group……they don’t even breed…….their existance is pointless…….troublesome even – when they educate the young into being sexualised too…..as it spreads all sexual diseses….including the death strain….aids.

    See how easily it can all be criticised and justified?

    Being UNESSECERALY critical of the Jews is a stupid thing for mankind to do. :cool:

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  114. Rowan (2,396 comments) says:

    I’d rather Bracewell over Wagner in the test eleven. For the test series do we bring back Ryder and Guptill in place of Fulton and Rutherford? BJ Watling or McCullum could open with Jesse at 5.

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  115. Nostalgia-NZ (5,213 comments) says:

    Thanks for caring stephie, I guess that barrel suction was very interesting for you. Don’t despair, join Ken Ring’s cult and get revenge.

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  116. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    Nostalgia-NZ – thats a bummer.

    id prefer to have in the team to wagner

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  117. Rowan (2,396 comments) says:

    Dime
    We did win our last series in SA and there were quite a few top players missing. From memory we were within one ball of winning it 3-0 and the saffers snatched a consilation win with a last ball 6.

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  118. Nostalgia-NZ (5,213 comments) says:

    Stick with Fulton and Rutherford, limit the tinkering Rowan.

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  119. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    he Jews arn’t saying that the earth should be wiped clean of any group of people.

    But they have America actually doing it for them. While crying like sadistic babies for war with Iran. If they don’t like the Middle East they can fuck off back to EUROPE which is where the parasites came from.

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  120. Rowan (2,396 comments) says:

    Nosty
    I imagine the left over members that aren’t in psychiatric care will form another hate group this time aimed at Mark Lundy and anyone who supports him. What do they get out of it? you’d have to wonder. Invest so much time and effort into expressing their hatred, does this really make one happy. At the end of it Kents achievement will bankruptcy, and for what?

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  121. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    rowan – well shit lol

    i do remember that now ya mention it.. what sticks in my mind in how they just destroyed us last time they were here. (please dont tell me we won and my memory is shot)

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  122. Nostalgia-NZ (5,213 comments) says:

    I’d like him in the team as well Dime. If I’m reading it properly the friction is both ways, he needs some room for his individuality and at the same time to accept the idea of being emerged comfortably in his sport, confident and relaxed. He looks like he drops plates accidentally and tortures himself as a result.

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  123. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    What do they get out of it? you’d have to wonder.

    Rowan, yeah I guess with your warped morality you would actually “wonder” why people might feel strongly about someone that murdered their entire family in cold blood.

    It tells me all I need to know about the sort of person you are.

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  124. Reid (16,471 comments) says:

    I hope Alan’s going to be commenting at Sochi.

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  125. stephieboy (3,099 comments) says:

    Kea.
    The Jews originated in Europe if that what you are implying.?
    I’ve mentioned to you before and will repeat again the Stele of the Pharaoh of Merneptah makes mention of Israel 1205 BC as part of his list of conquests.

    But more recent Archaeological evidence and research makes it possibly earlier to 1,400 BC,

    http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/ancient-cultures/ancient-israel/does-the-merneptah-stele-contain-the-first-mention-of-israel/

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  126. Rowan (2,396 comments) says:

    Kea
    I can see why you are attracted to, and continue to defend a kiddyfiddler and mass killer, this is somehow ‘right’ in your sick mind and you have some sense of ‘duty’. But you are a very sick puppy.

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  127. Nostalgia-NZ (5,213 comments) says:

    You are the moron who couldn’t work out how Robin Bain’s blood was found in the rifle Kea, proving that you don’t have a clue what you are talking about. Go steal some straw and build a nest.

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  128. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    Kea
    I can see why you are attracted to, and continue to defend a kiddyfiddler and mass killer,

    LOL :)

    Here goes Rowan once again pretending I said something and pretending he is responding to it, to distract from the real issue.

    OK Rowan, Please cut n’ paste where I defended a mass murdering kiddie fiddler ?

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  129. Reid (16,471 comments) says:

    I’ve mentioned to you before and will repeat again the Stele of the Pharaoh of Merneptah makes mention of Israel 1205 BC as part of his list of conquests.

    Yes stephie everyone knows the jews spoken of in the Bible were real. Der. What many, including you it appears, don’t seem to know is that many of the jews who are around today including most European jews, aren’t those jews at all. They’re descended from Khazar jews who converted around 600 AD. All the zionist jews are Khazars, most of the jews in Israel are Khazars.

    But they wrap themselves in the guise of the people from the Bible so useful idiots hallucinate they’re God’s chosen people. But they’re not.

    And please don’t quote me a Fox News-like site that says that’s bullshit, because what would you expect a Fox News-like site to say, stephie? But I don’t expect that will stop you from doing it anyway, given your raging hallucinations to date.

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  130. stephieboy (3,099 comments) says:

    Nostalgia your “barrel suction” fantasy only proves that the shot that killed the murdered Robin Bain was a close range or close contact shot.
    It’s worth repeating again that even Dr Philip Boyce conceded that his demonstrations ,notwithstanding , could not preclude homicide .
    And I repeat again was the blood subjected to DNA or blood group analysis.?
    Yes or No.?
    PS Where did the arterial spray from Robin’s head wound end up.? Certainly not on his hand that held the barrel hand nor the sleeve of his jersey nor anywhere else on his clothes or person.
    Maybe he did really clean himself up after shooting himself .?

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  131. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    stephieboy, yes the Jewish desert cult did start in the region, as did many many other cults.

    We all came from somewhere. In fact in the bible EVERYONE came from the same place. Even evolution concludes the same thing.

    The point is that why should one group be allowed to return centuries later when the world has moved on ? It would be like the Maoris claiming Taiwan.

    The fact is the only justification for Europeans to have more right over that land that the people born there is religious fables. I have no problem with Jews living there. What I object to is a born and bred Londoner having more rights to live there than someone whos family lived there for generations.

    Thanks to this absurd situation the whole worlds security is at risk. The cost of maintaining this religious fantasy is incalculable both in money and human suffering. All so some Zionist Jews could try and make their religious fantasy world real. It is disgusting. It is not even supported by religious Jews as it is totally unsound and not consistent with Jewish scripture at all.

    Sadly the damage is done and I see the Muslims point on this one, but I do not wish harm on Israel. The Muslims need to accept it and find another solution. Lobbing rockets at them won’t help.

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  132. Rowan (2,396 comments) says:

    Kea
    You continue to defend Robin Bain hence you defend a kiddy fiddler and a killer.

    Stiffy
    Yes we know all that but given that the wound was close contact and given that close contact wounds are around 95% more likely to be suicide, then you have a lot of explaining to do to explain how Robins ‘murder’ (unexplained by the crown) fits within the 5% range of homicidal contact wounds, and convienently contains all the characteristics of a self inflicted shot. I guess Daddy must have been a really cooperative victim!

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  133. Nostalgia-NZ (5,213 comments) says:

    ‘Nostalgia your “barrel suction” fantasy only proves that the shot that killed the murdered Robin Bain was a close range or close contact shot’

    ‘The “murdered” Robin Bain.’ Really, ‘close range or contact shot’, thanks for that, just what the cultists said never happened. No DNA tests are needed to determine whose blood was deep in the rifle after Robin shot himself. Try macramé or yoga, even breathing out of the water to keep your brain cool – when you get one.

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  134. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    kea – remember when you were fun? was a long time ago…

    lighten up man.

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  135. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    WHY ORTHODOX JEWS ARE OPPOSED TO A ZIONIST STATE

    The People of Israel oppose the so-called “State of Israel” for four reasons:

    FIRST — The so-called “State of Israel” is diametrically opposed and completely contradictory to the true essence and foundation of the People of Israel, as is explained above. The only time that the People of Israel were permitted to have a state was two thousand years ago when the glory of the creator was upon us, and likewise in the future when the glory of the creator will once more be revealed, and the whole world will serve Him, then He Himself (without any human effort or force of arms) will grant us a kingdom founded on Divine Service….

    http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/opposition.cfm

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  136. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    dime, would you prefer I talked about cricket ? FFS !

    I remember you used to talk about hookers, weight training, and other fun things ;)

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  137. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    Kea
    You continue to defend Robin Bain hence you defend a kiddy fiddler and a killer.

    Rowan, oh really !!!

    When did I do that ? The whole family were a bit odd, but only one of them was a killer and wanna-be rapist. David Bain.

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  138. Nostalgia-NZ (5,213 comments) says:

    How hysterical. 9 out of 10.

    Any more lectures and sermons for the day, or just meltdowns.

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  139. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    kea – im all about yoga now HAHAHAHAHA

    currently dime cant do a thing. i had some mole cut out of my back the other day.. bunch of stitches.. no swimming.. it was right between the shoulder blades so all lifting etc is out. angry dime

    oh yeah, turns out it was fine you insensitive pricks. thanks for asking.

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  140. stephieboy (3,099 comments) says:

    Reid and Kea,

    The following genome studies of Jews not only that Jews worldwide share a common genetic heritage but the study puts a lie to the so called Ashkenazi – Khazar origin of the Jews but clearly demonstrates they as a people share common genetic traits to the Palestinians , Lebanese and Syrians of Semitic origin living in the Middle East.
    Its interesting to observe the article that was based on the research findings was apparently the subject of some vitriolic abuse by we can only guess who,

    http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100603/full/news.2010.277.html.

    Here also further information,

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/science/10jews.html?_r=0

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  141. Rowan (2,396 comments) says:

    No sorry to disturb you fantasies bird brain, that was actually his father. You are clearly out of your depth here, run along and build a nest.

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  142. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    Rowan – are you fucking david bain on the side? seriously, who gives a shit.

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  143. Rowan (2,396 comments) says:

    I know Dime, its just these idiots who use gd to spread misinformation and lies about the case that really bugs me.,
    Anway back to the cricket, yes if we were playing the saffers on any venue the odds of winning would be fairly low, it does happen from time to time but 3 or 4 out of 10 is probably realistic, Australia are a better bet, can’t believe they are back up to no 1, there away form is very average.

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  144. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    dime, Clearly you need an Asian hooker in to look after you. To further aid your recovery, eat only steak until Kea says otherwise.

    No more Yoga. It’s for faggots.

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  145. stephieboy (3,099 comments) says:

    Kea
    The “kiddy fiddler” or “pedo “supporters is the stock in trade abuse that David Bain’s supporters resort to when they are confronted with views that challenge their fundamental assumptions..
    Vindictive tirades and abuse do nothing to advance Bain’s cause., It in fact does great harm and does help to explain why the Compensation Claim has had such a crash landing and is such a train wreck.

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  146. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    Reid and Kea,

    The following genome studies of Jews not only that Jews worldwide share a common genetic heritage… but genome studies also confirm we all share a common genetic heritage.

    clearly demonstrates they as a people share common genetic traits to the Palestinians , Lebanese and Syrians

    YES. That supports my point not yours. Silly bugger.

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  147. Nostradamus (3,326 comments) says:

    Dime:

    Elaycee called Rowan out on his behaviour yesterday:

    Elaycee (3,763 comments) says:
    January 22nd, 2014 at 11:00 am

    And as usual, the childish comments continue:

    …Aunt Fanny…
    …you fruitcake…
    …pathetic piece of s**t…
    …threads are actually started by the lynch mob…
    …pedo supporters…
    …kiddy fiddling…

    But no surprises. None at all – because it’s all they have left.

    Until recently I regarded myself as neutral on Bain.

    But after engaging with the Bainite fuckwits the other night (see this comment and my surrounding comments on that thread), I now hope he gets no compensation. Simply because of the aggressive way in which his supporters attack anyone who they perceive as being anti-Bain.

    There’s a nice sour lemon for you to suck on, Rowan! :)

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  148. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    kea – im all loved up. no more hookers :(

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  149. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    What more do these people want !

    David Bain got away with murder, the sneaky manipulative little shit.

    As for compensation. Well the simple fact is that he served a long stretch and has no conviction. He should be compensated. It would set a troubling precedent if he were not. It is bad enough he got-off, but lets not make this wrong taint our legal system further than it already has. Give the psycho his money.

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  150. stephieboy (3,099 comments) says:

    Kea.
    This is Reid’s view,

    “…Yes stephie everyone knows the jews spoken of in the Bible were real. Der. What many, including you it appears, don’t seem to know is that many of the jews who are around today including most European jews, aren’t those jews at all. They’re descended from Khazar jews who converted around 600 AD. All the zionist jews are Khazars, most of the jews in Israel are Khazars.”

    That as the genome studies show is actually untrue.

    Am glad therefore I was mistaken and that you agree with me,.

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  151. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    im all loved up

    dime, she better be Asian, or at least a touch exotic, or Kea will not be pleased !

    (Exceptions can be made for brunettes of Kiwi origin)

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  152. Rowan (2,396 comments) says:

    Stiffy
    Misrepresenting the facts of the case and whether or not David does or doesn’t receive compensation doesn’t actually change the facts of what actually happened.

    Nostradamus
    The comments were said directly to the broken record ‘muggins’ that uses GD and other threads to show the whole country that he knows nothing and is in great need of psychiatric care, he is all of those things. The delusionists give as good as they get in terms of ‘attacking’ those who don’t agree with their views.
    A really ‘good logical’ reason for your stance.
    Anyway enough engaging with amateurs for one night.

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  153. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    kea – Dime prefers blondes!

    shes a kiwi blonde. well raised though. different to most kiwi girls.. not some fat feminist bitch :)

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  154. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    stephieboy, I am happy to accept your claims. I am simply pointing out that many peoples can trace back to the region. I am even happy for Jews to go live there. No worries. But I am equally happy for all the other people to as well and that is our point of difference.

    The problem is this whole promised land bullshit which is scriptually unsound anyway.

    http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/opposition.cfm

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  155. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    dime, good luck !

    Most blondes hate my guts on sight. Though not the one on new years eve :)

    different to most kiwi girls.. not some fat feminist bitch

    Hmmm. Check her papers.

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  156. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    “Most blondes hate my guts on sight.”

    thats cause youre this guy (not mayor west):

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  157. stephieboy (3,099 comments) says:

    Kea
    The arguments against Jewish. what we may call” exceptiionalism ” or “exclusiveness” do have some merit but too often , in my view, it gets mixed up with a lot of prejudice and blind hatred.

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  158. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    Anotyher socialist quitting?

    Christchurch Central MP Nicky Wagner will announce her political future next week.

    Wagner was seen engrossed in what appeared to be a serious conversation with Prime Minister John Key at the Ballantynes cafe on Wednesday afternoon but refused to reveal what they talked about.

    “It was actually a private conversation . . . we talked about all kinds of interesting things,” she said yesterday.

    Speculation has been rife for weeks she may stand down at this year’s election after proposed electorate boundary changes to her seat prompted her to describe it as “unwinnable”.

    She will reveal her decision to National MPs at an all-day caucus next Friday before confirming it publicly.

    “Everybody will be there. I’ll just finalise what I’m going to do and do it properly.”

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9644338/Wagner-to-reveal-decision-on-future

    not even good enough to be high on the list.
    Oh well.

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