Scoop, Newsroom and the Internet Party

January 25th, 2014 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

As many will have read by now, has resigned as interim General Secretary of the Internet Party:

website co-founder Alastair Thompson has resigned as interim general secretary of the Internet Party.

Mr Thompson is not available for further comment.

This is obviously a bad look for the Internet Party, losing the key administrative officer a week into it.

It also leaves Alastair in a vulnerable position. Can he immediately return to Scoop, despite having affiliated with a political party – even if now departed.

By coincidence also out yesterday was this announcement:

Sublime Group Ltd is increasing its presence in the media business by seeking to acquire from NZX, says Craig Pellett, CEO of Sublime Group (www.sublimegroup.net). The acquisition is expected to be formally completed shortly.

“Our acquisition of NewsRoom is designed to support our recent investment in and restructuring plans for Scoop Holdings Ltd, which owns Scoop.co.nz,” says Craig Pellett.

“The acquisition is a clear indication that we are committed to being a serious player in the online media sector in New Zealand.”

“NewsRoom is both separate from but also highly complementary to Scoop’s suite of products and when the two are formally aligned under a common legal and management structure together they will provide a strong foundation for future growth. That is our intention, subject to agreement by the board and shareholders of Scoop Holdings Ltd,” he says.

Scoop was a breakaway from Newsroom over a decade ago, and so it is interesting they have ended up back together again. I suspect they’ll merge at some point.

A related challenge is that both media outlets will now be under the effective control of , a prominent Labour activist and donor. How will they deal with editorial independence?

So interesting times in the online media and political worlds.

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20 Responses to “Scoop, Newsroom and the Internet Party”

  1. nickb (3,686 comments) says:

    Do they need to be editorially independent? Why put up that pretense?

    They could be open about it, unlike the NZH, Dom Post et al

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  2. iMP (2,364 comments) says:

    This genuinely concerns me. Seeing photos of the editor of the Press and Lianne Dalziel on holiday together shortly after the election campaign, when there were serious questions raised by various people about whom was featured and showcased in tThe Press (only Dalziel’s candidates) to the exclusion of all others.

    We need a fair press and The Press. There is no Q. choices made by The Press absolutely affected the result.

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  3. Manolo (13,580 comments) says:

    Another hack for hire? Journo-prostitutes are quite common nowadays.

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  4. TheContrarian (1,085 comments) says:

    Bradbury certainly fucked this with complete totality. What a jack-ass

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  5. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    @ChrisKeall points out:

    See Alastair Thompson’s name has disappeared from the steering committee listed on the PIJ site http://pij.org.nz/intro/

    PIJ=Public Interest Journalism Aotearoa New Zealand

    A side issue is the apparent attempt by a number of organisations and a party or two to push an renaming of New Zealand. I’m not against ‘Aotearoa’ as a name, but renaming our country should only be done with popular support, not by agenda pushing.

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  6. Nostalgia-NZ (5,119 comments) says:

    nickb nails it, why do they need to be independent. Even if they were there’d be continued allegations that they weren’t. And is the question only about political independence to ignore how political parties, business project interests and so all try to ‘manipulate’ their position in the public mind. Not all the reading public have equilibrium problems that cause them to lean right or left as the read paragraph by paragraph through a editorial, most are sophisticated and educated enough to see the snares, traps and sweeteners. The bloody ‘political’ media take themselves too seriously with some having more absorbent minds of ‘self’ propaganda than the ‘market and readers’ they target.

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  7. BeaB (2,118 comments) says:

    I enjoy partisan journalism as long as the politics are made clear. There’s far too much duplicity and pretence in NZ media.

    This morning the Waikato Times had a serious photo of David Cunliffe alongside one of the PM with his tongue out. Their message is obvious. Mind you, it is such a superficial and poorly written rag it’s hardly worth the money.

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  8. ChardonnayGuy (1,199 comments) says:

    Meanwhile, here’s muggins’ latest article on issue-based politics and LGBTdom… http://www.gaynz.com/articles/publish/31/printer_14498.php

    As you can see, there’s a photo of Big Boy to accompany the piece, but I’m realistic about his chances.

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  9. Cato (1,095 comments) says:

    Thanks for the non-sequitur CG. Not a bad read – but I am genuinely interested in your statement that: “the Conservatives are also anti-abortion…”

    If that were true, it might point to the CCCP being a coherent conservative party rather than a “Colin Craig” party. However, I remembered Pete George, the other resident Colin Craig obsessive, reported a while back that CC had said that he supported a right to abortion provided the mother received independent medical advise first.

    I’d be interested to see if there’s more to it.

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  10. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    Although it wasn’t stated it’s quite clear what the political inclinations are of this “freelance writer and poet”. After blah blah Key, blah blah Peters, blah blah Dotcom, blah blah Cunliffe…

    Of course the Greens are the bogeymen, for one simple reason: They’re right.

    They might be mocked as “loony left”, but they’re really a pro-environment party with a social conscience. So unless simply having a social conscience is left wing, it’s a false label: you can be any political colour and support the environment.

    That’s what scares all the other parties, including the “blue browns” of the Maori Party: a Green future implies real change, not just tinkering and shadow-plays. They’ll stop at nothing to prevent that change, because a Green future makes them all redundant.

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  11. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    Cato – I haven’t mentioned him for some time. On abortion in Craig says (in Ask Colin)…

    If a bill proposed a ban on abortion I would be surprised. There is an attempt to introduce such a law in Poland at the moment but even in a country that is 97% catholic it is struggling to get through. Practically I can’t see how it can work.
    I think we can make some real changes for the better (of both woman and child) in this area and so I would probably talk with the private member and see if we couldn’t work on something a bit more practical like “free and informed consent” such as they have in Western Europe for example.

    He also points to a guest post here last year that explained how he saw abortion (and other things):
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/03/guest_post_colin_craig_on_whether_he_would_vote_for_abortion_on_demand.html

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  12. Cato (1,095 comments) says:

    Thanks. A quick googling shows this is what I was thinking about:

    http://yournz.org/2013/11/16/colin-craig-answers-nbr/

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  13. anticorruptionnz (212 comments) says:

    Just want to get some facts straight here

    SCOOP MEDIA LIMITED inc 4 June 1999 has 25 share holders Alastair Luke THOMPSON is the director and the company is set to be struck off due to not filing a return.

    SCOOP SUBSCRIBER SERVICES LIMITED is about the suffer the same fate its share holder is Scoop media and director Thompson

    Scoop Holdings Limited was set up 23 September 2013 its share holders include sublime Group and storm distribution, the Pellet family and Mr & Mrs Thompson are the directors , the company is largely owned by the Pellets through various companies .

    Scoop Holdings is a share holder of scoop media service incorporated 3 December 2013, director of scoop media are the same as for scoop holdings.

    the web site scoop.co.nz is registerd to Newsroom Net NZ Ltd. which is the name scoop media used until 28 June 1999 when the name was changed . ( how about an update in domain registration ) ..

    News room Limited (inc 1997 ) originally owned by Andrew MCNAUGHTON ,Alaistar THOMPSON ,Ian LLEWLLYN ,Peter Anthony FOWLER who all resided in the Top Flat, 101 Corromandel Street, Newtown, Wellington , was struck off 20 Dec 2006

    The only Newsroom company which now exists in NZ is NEWSROOM AMERICA LIMITED inc 2009 and this company is not NZX listed

    NZX NEWSROOM LIMITED owned by NZX NZ was struck off 30 Jun 2009 . it does nto appear that they will be selling it it no longer exists.

    Company identities are as important as peoples identities- you may wish to read this article from the fraud examiner http://www.acfe.com/fraud-examiner.aspx?id=4294981064

    We don’t swap out names , some of us might change our names for some reason but some how companies can assume each others names – the best example I have ever seen of identity confusion in companies is that of Waikato electricity limited , well networks and Wel energy group , you will go dizzy trying to find out who is who at what given time .

    The whole point is that companies which have closed are no longer in existence and are not the same company as one which is being purchased

    Scoop media and news room were two companies set up by the same group of people, one grew into greater a share holding and the other was stuck off .

    Each is a separate legal entity and like people , are individuals, they too are ” legal ” individuals and must not be considered one and the same just because they share a name.

    Identity fraud amongst companies is prolific in NZ due largely to the use of trading names. You must always check the companies register.

    so in summary we have two lots of scoops the one who runs the web site and the new company which has set up in 2013

    you have to be very careful in refereing to any of them as scoop as scoop the web site only refers to scoop media which is about to be struck off.

    Grace Haden
    Licensed Private Investigator.
    Grace@verisure.co.nz

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  14. OneTrack (3,023 comments) says:

    Pete – “They’ll stop at nothing to prevent that change, because a Green future makes them all redundant.”

    He is right. A Green Party future will make everybody redundant.

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  15. OneTrack (3,023 comments) says:

    Pete – “a Green future implies real change, not just tinkering and shadow-plays.”

    A prophet – he’s right again. A Green Party future means most of what you like about New Zealand will be gone. (including the name)

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  16. OneTrack (3,023 comments) says:

    Did Thompson tell DotCom that he had to redistribute all his capitalist gained wealth to the “poor”. Ficken, dass!

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  17. OneTrack (3,023 comments) says:

    By the way, I wasnt attributing those quotes above to Pete himself, but to the quotes from his comments.

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  18. MH (711 comments) says:

    The patented logo in the Herald today, could do with a fern in it,or U-boat skull and X bones.

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  19. lolitasbrother (669 comments) says:

    iMP (1,953 comments) says:
    January 25th, 2014 at 9:11 am
    This genuinely concerns me. Seeing photos of the editor of the Press and Lianne Dalziel on holiday together shortly after the election campaign, when there were serious questions raised by various people about whom was featured and showcased in The Press (only Dalziel’s candidates) to the exclusion of all others.

    We need a fair press and The Press. There is no Q. choices made by The Press absolutely affected the result.
    end quote

    to IMP , everyone knows the Press do, dominate elections here in Christchurch, and that is because we are stupid, yes we are stupid, we are poor, and we are followers.

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  20. ChardonnayGuy (1,199 comments) says:

    I’m not surprised to see Thompson’s resignation. The German Pirate Party were political ingenues and it cost them when it came to Bundestag elections. If I were Big K, I’d get some professional advisors in to prevent the Internet Party going similarly pear-shaped. However, speaking of the German Pirate Party, they did spectacularly well in Berlin. Which is a fascinating angle- would the nearest equivalent be Wellington or Auckland here, one wonders?

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