The Internet Party

January 15th, 2014 at 12:30 pm by David Farrar

has announced the name of his proposed political party will be The . Wallace Chapman has also stated he was asked to stand for it, and has declined. He has also been asked to stand for Labour in the past he discloses.

Also of interest is that Martin Bradbury is talking up the Dotcom Party, and states that “urban professional male Gen X National Party voters who don’t derive an income from the Dairy Industry will find Kim Dotcom’s economic vision a genuine way forward

What I find interesting is how Martin knows what that economic vision is, when their policies have not been released. It’s almost as if he is involved. But of course he would disclose that if he was, right?

UPDATE: In an exclusive Whale Oil discloses how two journalists are on the payroll of the Internet Party, or hold a leadership role in it. They key details are:

  • Martyn Bradbury on payroll for $8000 per month plus $5000 advance payment for technology upgrades
  • Bradbury to stand for Auckland Central
  • Scoop General Manager Alistair Thompson is to be the Party’s Secretary (a statutory role)
  • Scoop has registered the domain names for the party

This is the second time that Bradbury has been revealed to be on, or seeking to be on, the payroll of a political party he blogs favourably about, without disclosing it.

There are serious issues for Scoop and the press gallery also. Can a member of the press gallery be a senior office holder of a political party? Is it appropriate to have a party secretary asking hostile questions of the PM at his media press conferences, in his role as a journalist.

UPDATE: Bradbury says he has not yet been placed on the payroll, it was just a proposal. But the problem remains that he is publishing favourable articles on them, while trying to advise them, get paid by them, and be a candidate for them.

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75 Responses to “The Internet Party”

  1. Manolo (14,173 comments) says:

    How much money is Bradbury getting from the fat German?
    Another surprise would be to find Miss Dim campaigning for this crook. The possibility exists.

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  2. dime (10,215 comments) says:

    There is some big launch at the vector on monday? dot coms bday, party launch and album launch lol

    my chick is going. Dime is not.

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  3. Joanne (177 comments) says:

    Groan. The nutters come out in election year. Are people that gullible that they would entertain the idea of voting for a party set up by Krim Dotcom. US please come and take him.

    2014 is not going to be about intelligent economic debate, it’s going to be about nutters.

    Talking about nutters Bradbury is stupid enough to by into Krim Dotcom’s fantasy world.

    I don’t mind is the US use drones or helicopters please take Krim. The delay is probably so they can build a cell big enough.

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  4. queenstfarmer (782 comments) says:

    Oh yes, I’m sure National Party voters will be lining up to support a party headed by a convicted fraudster and desparate to see a Labour Government. LOL Martin Bradbury.

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  5. RightNow (7,015 comments) says:

    Party logo in Orcon colours, how odd. It’s as if it’s a marketing stunt.

    Still, competition among the anti-National vote is good right?

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  6. Scott Chris (6,178 comments) says:

    Well it’s different, I’ll give him that. But I doubt it’ll get much support.

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  7. Than (514 comments) says:

    So two new political parties announced today. This is good, the more the merrier. More ways for the votes to split, less chance of any of them getting in. I look foward to the day that the last minor party fails to return to parliament (the Greens don’t really count as minor anymore), and we’re back to an effective FPP situation with National against the Labour-Greens. All of the minor parties are in decline, so if we’re lucky this could be as soon as 2017.

    I think Martin Bradbury is completely misreading who this party will appeal to. The Internet Party is basically just a big protest against the system (the online equivalent of the Occupy movement) – the launch event is a rave, and all the serious IT leaders have distanced themselves from it. It’s going to appeal less to “urban professional male Gen X National Party voters” and more to “student or unemployed male Gen Y Green Party voters”.

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  8. Cunningham (846 comments) says:

    Joanne (49 comments) says:

    “Groan. The nutters come out in election year. Are people that gullible that they would entertain the idea of voting for a party set up by Krim Dotcom”

    You should see his disciples on Stuff stating they will vote for him and he hasn’t even released any policies. It’s like a cult!

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  9. James Stephenson (2,268 comments) says:

    Speaking as a Gen-X urban male, who derives his income from the Telecoms industry:

    Hahahahahahahaha, fuck off.

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  10. NK (1,259 comments) says:

    Bomber was touting the Mana Party a short while ago and now he professes to know about urban professional male right wing economic voters and what they want?

    Huh?

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  11. Pete George (23,831 comments) says:

    http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/01/exclusive-internet-party-strategy-revealed/

    The strategy paper (below) reveals that Martyn Bradbury is working for Kim Dotcom and is charging him $8000 per month plus GST for political strategy, on top of a $5000 payment to allow him to upgrade his computer, cellphone and tablet devices.

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  12. Colville (2,318 comments) says:

    James.
    You should encourage every Labour/Gween disenchanted person to vote for the dotcon party.
    Every vote is wasted, I hope he gets 3% or so. :-)

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  13. Colville (2,318 comments) says:

    NK, Mana’s cheque must have bounced. Bradbury needs a new teet to suck.

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  14. RRM (10,099 comments) says:

    Kate Monster: Finally, I get to teach a whole lesson all by myself. And I’m gonna teach something relevant, something modern – the Internet!

    (sings) The Internet is really really great,
    Trekkie Monster: For porn!
    Kate Monster: I’ve got a fast connection so I don’t have to wait.
    Trekkie Monster: For porn!
    Kate Monster:What?
    There’s always some new site.
    Trekkie Monster: For porn!
    Kate Monster: I browse all day and night.
    Trekkie Monster: For porn!
    Kate Monster: It’s like I’m surfing at the speed of light…
    Trekkie Monster: For porn!
    Kate Monster: Trekkie!

    Trekkie Monster: The Internet is for porn!
    Kate Monster: Trekkie!
    Trekkie Monster: The Internet is for porn!
    Kate Monster: What are you doing!?
    Trekkie Monster: Why you think the net was born?
    Porn! Porn! Porn!
    Kate Monster: Treee-kkie!
    Trekkie Monster: Oh! Hello, Kate Monster.
    Kate Monster: You are ruining my song!
    Trekkie Monster: Oh me sorry, me no mean to.
    Kate Monster: Well, if you wouldn’t mind please being quiet for a minute so I can finish?
    Trekkie Monster: Okie dokie!
    Kate Monster: Good!

    I’m glad we have this new technology…
    Trekkie Monster: For porn!
    Kate Monster: Which gives us untold opportunity.
    Trekkie Monster: For porn – oops, sorry!
    Kate Monster: From your own desktop.
    Trekkie Monster: For —
    Kate Monster: You can research, browse and shop…
    Trekkie Monster:0 Mm!
    Kate Monster: Until you’ve had enough and you’re ready to stop.
    Trekkie Monster: FOR PORN!!
    Kate Monster: Trekkie!

    Trekkie Monster: The Internet is for porn!
    Kate Monster: Nooo!
    Trekkie Monster: The Internet is for porn!
    Kate Monster: Trekkie!
    Trekkie Monster: Me up all night honking me horn to porn, porn, porn!

    Kate Monster: That’s gross! You’re a pervert.
    Trekkie Monster: Ah, sticks and stones, Kate Monster.
    Kate Monster: No really, you’re a pervert. Normal people don’t sit at home and look at porn on the Internet.
    Trekkie Monster: Ohhhh?
    Kate Monster: What?!
    Trekkie Monster: You have no idea! Ready, normal people?
    Brian: Ready!
    Gary: Ready!
    Rod: Ready!
    Trekkie Monster: Lemmie hear it!

    Trekkie and guys: The Internet is for porn!
    Princeton: Sorry, Kate!
    Trekkie and guys: The Internet is for porn!
    Princeton: I masturbate!
    Trekkie and guys: All these guys unzip their flies for
    Porn, porn, porn!
    Kate Monster: The Internet is not for porn!!
    Trekkie and guys: PORN, PORN —
    Kate Monster: HOLD ON A SECOND!
    Trekkie Monster: What?

    Kate Monster: Now I happen to know for a fact that you, Rod, check your portfolio and trade stocks online.
    Rod: That’s correct.
    Kate Monster: And Brian, you buy things on Amazon.com.
    Brian: Sure!
    Kate Monster: And Gary, you keep selling your possesions on eBay.
    Gary: Yes I do!
    Kate Monster: And Princeton, you sent me that sweet online birthday card.
    Princeton: True!
    Trekkie Monster: Oh, but Kate Monster, what you think he do after? Hmm?
    Princeton: Yeah.
    Kate Monster: EEEWWWWW!

    Trekkie and guys: The Internet is for porn!
    Kate Monster: Gross!
    Trekkie and guys: The Internet is for porn!
    Kate Monster: I hate porn!
    Trekkie and guys: Grab your dick and double-click…
    Kate Monster: Ugh!
    Trekkie and guys: …for porn, porn, porn!
    Kate Monster: I hate men!
    Trekkie and guys: {in harmony} Porn, porn, porn, porn
    Kate Monster: I’m leaving!
    Trekkie and guys: Porn, porn, porn, porn, porn, porn, porn, porn
    Kate Monster: I hate the Internet!
    Trekkie and guys: Porn, porn, porn, porn
    Trekkie Monster: The Internet is for
    Trekkie and some: Internet is for
    Trekkie and all: Internet is for PORN!
    Trekkie Monster:YEAH!

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  15. RightNow (7,015 comments) says:

    I’m looking forward to his party first appearing in polls, that will give some indication of who he will appeal to.
    In my opinion it will mostly be:
    Computer gamers
    Recreational drug takers
    Illegal downloaders
    Other people who just hate National

    I’m picking most of his support will be from under 30’s, not generally known to vote conservative at that age.

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  16. Pete George (23,831 comments) says:

    Oh wow.

    The Candidate: Martyn Bradbury

    Further, the strategy document, which Trotter so clearly expands upon, shows that Martyn Bradbury intends to stand in Auckland Central as the Internet Party candidate, and be paid for the privilege of doing so. His strategy document outlines the need to establish an office.

    And wow again.

    The media compromise:

    However the subterfuge is deeper than that. Sources have revealed that Scoop Media’s General Manager Alistair Thompson is to be the Party Secretary and has already registered the domain names under the Scoop Media banner.

    If that’s true it’s not a good look for Scoop.

    “We are the leading independent news publication in New Zealand and value our independence strongly.”

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  17. chris (647 comments) says:

    Don’t you love how a Marxist Communist is quite happy to earn $8,000 per month? The rules always apply to everyone else, of course.

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  18. Bingo99 (94 comments) says:

    Fantastic news! This should hoover up about 1-2% of the left an youth vote, effectively wasting it and likely hitting the Greens the hardest. Raises the threshold for the Left ,reducing it for the Right. And Bradbury is involved ?? Haha how delicious this be… The single most overrated political goon in the country helping elect a national government, entirely unintentionally of course. Two thumbs up.

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  19. labrator (1,851 comments) says:

    Which central regulatory body set the ‘political strategy’ wage rate at $8,000 per month. Surely he needs no more than the living wage?

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  20. Pete George (23,831 comments) says:

    @MattNippert

    Trying to target only National voting Gen X prof males reeks of trying to keep Mana paymasters on side.

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  21. All_on_Red (1,744 comments) says:

    Real Estate not going so good for Martyn then.

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  22. Ashley Schaeffer (535 comments) says:

    I can’t quite believe what I’m reading on Whaleoil. This is some serious bullshit from Bradbury, Dotcom, et al. Dotcom had a little sympathy from me when Hollywood went after him, but not any more. When you cynically start fucking around with our political system, then it’s time you were given your marching orders and escorted back to whatever rock you climbed out from.

    I’m one urban professional male Gen X National Party voter who doesn’t derive an income from the Dairy Industry who won’t be suckered into letting my vote get hoovered up by the left.

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  23. RRM (10,099 comments) says:

    I like how Whale Oil says that Graeme Edgeler charged the Internet Party $3,000 for writing a report for them, and how Edgeler refused to discuss his business arrangements with Whale Oil… as though that is somehow scandallous!

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  24. Scott Chris (6,178 comments) says:

    This should hoover up about 1-2% of the left an youth vote

    Hmm maybe. On the other hand, Bradbury and Cunliffe might get together for a ‘cup of tea’…. That would position the Internet Party as the socially liberal arm of the left just as ACT is/was the socially liberal arm of the right.

    Thing is, with the possible demise of ACT and the emergence of the CCCP (which appears, oddly enough to be soaking up some of ACT’s support if the comments on this blogsite are anything to go by), a gap appears to have opened in the political market for a socially liberal party. Maybe the IP does have a future. We live in interesting times.

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  25. elscorcho (155 comments) says:

    Martyn Bradbury is a filthy, disgusting class traitor. He claims to be a left-winger, a socialist, someone who stands up for the downtrodden – and then he supports a SUPER CAPITALIST, a kulak, someone who has committed multiple economic crimes.

    It absolutely, totally amazes me that so many of my so-called left-wing friends actually think Dotcom fits their political beliefs. The lack of class consciousness makes me realise just how fucking stupid they really are.

    Newsflash: It is more “socialist” to vote for Bill English than it is to vote for Kim Dotcom.

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  26. Pete George (23,831 comments) says:

    RRM – that’s one area I think there’s probably no cause for alarm, Edgeler was just acting as requested for a client. Why shouldn’t he?

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  27. James Stephenson (2,268 comments) says:

    and how Edgeler refused to discuss his business arrangements with Whale Oil… as though that is somehow scandallous!

    He’s turning into a proper journalist then, should be a slam-dunk at the High Court.

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  28. scrubone (3,097 comments) says:

    “We are the leading independent news publication in New Zealand and value our independence strongly.”

    Yea, na.

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  29. davidp (3,585 comments) says:

    Dotcom should be able to corner the idiot vote. In which case the Greens will be worried about losing support.

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  30. scrubone (3,097 comments) says:

    It absolutely, totally amazes me that so many of my so-called left-wing friends actually think Dotcom fits their political beliefs

    The left is attracted to someone well-known to have dubious ethics?

    Hm, how odd.

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  31. Pete George (23,831 comments) says:

    It’s taken until 1.57 pm for a comment on this at The Standard. Stunned mullets?

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  32. Raphael (88 comments) says:

    Speaking as someone who is an “urban professional male Gen X National Party voters who doesn’t derive an income from the Dairy Industry” but rather is in the IT industry: Satan will be ordering anti-freeze and opening ski resorts way before I would ever consider voting for a party headed by Kim Dotcom.

    Speaking as a fellow immigrant, he should never have been given his residency as he fails the good character criteria on the basis of being a convicted fraudster.

    I will consider joining a celebratory party when he is either deported or extradited.

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  33. Pete George (23,831 comments) says:

    Bradbury has posted a semi-denial.

    Couple of things.
    1: I stood down from my role as a consultant with the MANA Party last year.
    2: What Cameron is showing is an early draft of a proposal tabled at a meeting with a whole bunch of other ideas late last year.
    3: The idea of me as a candidate was more to kick around ideas.

    I am a Political consultant, this is what I do, this was a proposal I was asked to submit. The moment I start working for the Internet Party if I am offered a role I will be shouting it from the rooftops as I think the ideas of an Internet Party focused on civil rights in the online 21st Century and the economic prosperity that could generate for NZ is the future and anything that moves us away from a dairy dependent, drill and mine economy is a good thing.
    But all it was, was a proposal. If that changes, I will let you all know.

    http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/01/15/a-response-to-whaleoils-exclusive-on-me-and-the-internet-party/

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  34. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    What a shambles….

    Well, this right wing Auckland Central voter will really be spoiled for choice this year. Jacinda Ardern, Nikki Kaye, or Martyn Bradbury?

    I think I’ll stay home

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  35. Kimble (3,955 comments) says:

    Why would any “urban professional male Gen X National Party voters who don’t derive an income from the Dairy Industry” be interested in a party that has Bradbury as it’s headline candidate?

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  36. slightlyrighty (2,098 comments) says:

    All other political considerations aside, including who will take support from whom, but has anyone considered the ramifications of what is happening here.

    We have a foreigner of considerable wealth gained through dubious means, who is now using that wealth to fund a politcal party to change politics in NZ.

    If this was James Cameron, the left would be up in arms.

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  37. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    For some reason I lol’d the hardest at one of his conditions being $5,000 for new computer etc.

    Real estate can’t be going so well…

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  38. Dirty Rat (383 comments) says:

    More Internet users than gun owners…….just saying

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  39. davidp (3,585 comments) says:

    PG quoting MB>I think the ideas of an Internet Party focused on civil rights in the online 21st Century

    What really confuses me is that the people who claim to worry about government violations of privacy and human rights are the often SAME people who believe in big government. Small government has a hard time violating anyone’s privacy. For instance, if government isn’t involved in healthcare then it doesn’t possess your health records and cannot know what pharmaceuticals you’ve been prescribed and what medical conditions you suffer from. Instead, Lefties spend half their life trying to involve government in every aspect of our lives, and the other half worrying about government knowing what we’re doing.

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  40. Kimble (3,955 comments) says:

    The party will either have an “economic vision” that

    a) aligns with Bradbury’s views, in which case it wouldn’t appeal to an National voters (or anyone at all with a basic level of economic literacy) or,

    b) doesnt align with Bradbury’s views, in which case how confident would the prospective supporters be that the party would adequately represent, support, and defend that vision?

    This disconnect is so obvious the question has to be asked, is Bradbury a liar or merely stupid?

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  41. Pete George (23,831 comments) says:

    While Bradbury seems to be trying to distance himself from Dotcom and the Internet Party a bit the pic he posted (and also has on his Twitter profile) would appear to place him fairly close still.

    http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/01/15/a-response-to-whaleoils-exclusive-on-me-and-the-internet-party/

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  42. James Stephenson (2,268 comments) says:

    More Internet users than gun owners…….just saying

    Which will be significant, just as soon as one is able to vote by “liking” something on Facebook.

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  43. Alan (1,087 comments) says:

    Assuming he works full time Bradbury is only charging $50 an hour, even at 20 hours a week it’s still a fairly lousy rate.

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  44. david (2,194 comments) says:

    I find it interesting that Bradbury is quoting his selling price as $8000 per month PLUS GST. Indicates that he is incorporated and has sufficient business income that he either has a GST registered vehicle or is personally registered and considers all this to be a business activity. I’m sure that Martyn wouldn’t try to hind behind limited liability being the up-front, open and honest businessman that he is.

    Must be a tax advantage in there somehow. How is it unlike the corporate fat-cat companies that manage their tax affairs efficiently and get abused for doing so.

    All seems a bit fishy to me.

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  45. Alan (1,087 comments) says:

    You don’t need to be incorporated with limited liability to charge GST, sole traders making just $60k are required to register.

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  46. elscorcho (155 comments) says:

    I still can’t believe that Martyn believes a political party headed by a *kulak* can ever be acceptable to the left.

    What next, Chris Trotter standing for Robert Jones’ party?

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  47. Peter (1,695 comments) says:

    Gen X IT internet urban professional here, checking in.

    Internet Party. Lol.
    Martyn Bradbury. Ralmao.

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  48. Rex Widerstrom (5,013 comments) says:

    Than suggests:

    It’s going to appeal less to “urban professional male Gen X National Party voters” and more to “student or unemployed male Gen Y Green Party voters”.

    Precisely. And I would have thought anyone who claims to make a living as a political consultant would see that quite clearly.

    That said, there’s room in the market for a genuine Liberal Party (not the in-name-only version the Australians currently have) and such a vehicle would appeal to urban professionals of both sexes.

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  49. Joanne (177 comments) says:

    Dumbarse morons on social media think Dotkrim will take out the National Party. Hahahahaahahahaahahaha. They obviously only went to school to eat their lunch.

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  50. Pete George (23,831 comments) says:

    Alastair Thompson has resigned from Scoop. First casualty or a planned move?

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  51. jaba (2,146 comments) says:

    Bradbury is a dead set moron .. who gives a shit what he says or thinks?

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  52. Bad__Cat (141 comments) says:

    Krim DotCon, Bummer Bradbury, Alistair Thompson, what could go wrong?

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  53. Pete George (23,831 comments) says:

    @AdDeville

    Scoop’s Selwyn Pellett says Alastair Thompson has resigned after Whaleoil broke news of his involvement with Kim Dotcom’s Internet Party

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  54. DJP6-25 (1,390 comments) says:

    Stick a fork in them, they’re done already.

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  55. RRM (10,099 comments) says:

    Kimble – I guess the economic policy could be that NZ “becomes a smart economy” where we all have “green jobs” making money from our various file-sharing websites… thereby “catching the knowledge wave” and turning away from big oil, big dairy, big pharma and all the other uncool ways of earning money that involve actually getting off your arse and working…?

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  56. Pete George (23,831 comments) says:

    This is funny.

    @KimDotcom 8m

    To clarify – #ThePartyParty is all about the release of my album and does not have anything to do with the Internet Party. Come celebrate!

    The Internet Party will be launched at a separate event at a separate time.

    A lot of people (including me) have been confused by that. The Internet Party Party Party comes later, once Bomber has sorted out his strategy.

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  57. Pete George (23,831 comments) says:

    Journalist Alastair Thompson has resigned from internet-based news service Scoop this afternoon in the wake of claims he was to be Internet Party general-secretary and had registered a domain name.

    Scoop’s controlling shareholder, Selwyn Pellett, confirmed he had not previously been aware of the extent of Thompson’s involvement with the party.

    After the blog became public, Thompson tendered his resignation.

    Pellett said that while he understood Thompson’s passion for internet freedom, there was a clear conflict of interest with his journalism.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/30010853/journo-linked-to-internet-party-quits

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  58. chris (647 comments) says:

    From the above linked to article at Stuff:

    Bradbury also recommended Dotcom roll out free wi-fi to the new electorate from February to August.

    “Treating” would be a breach of electoral law, but Bradbury suggests doing it outside the election campaign period to get around the rules.

    Proving once again that Bradbury thinks the rules don’t apply to him.

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  59. Keeping Stock (9,381 comments) says:

    @ RRM – have you actually seen Avenue Q live?

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  60. Pete George (23,831 comments) says:

    217 Treating

    (1) Every person is guilty of a corrupt practice who commits the offence of treating.

    (2) Every person commits the offence of treating who corruptly, by himself or herself or by any other person on his or her behalf, either before, during, or after an election, directly or indirectly gives or provides, or pays wholly or in part the expense of giving or providing, any food, drink, entertainment, or provision to or for any person—

    (a) for the purpose of corruptly influencing that person or any other person to vote or refrain from voting; or

    (b) for the purpose of procuring himself or herself to be elected; or

    (c) on account of that person or any other person having voted or refrained from voting, or being about to vote or refrain from voting.

    (3) Every person commits the offence of treating who, being the holder of a licence for the sale by retail of alcohol (within the meaning of section 5(1) of the Sale and Supply of Alcohol Act 2012), knowingly supplies any food, drink, entertainment, or provision—

    (a) to any person where the supply thereof is demanded for the purpose of treating, or for any corrupt or illegal practice; or

    (b) to any persons, whether electors or not, for the purpose of procuring the return of a candidate or candidates at an election, and without receiving payment for it at the time when it is supplied.

    (4) Every elector who corruptly accepts or takes any such food, drink, entertainment, or provision also commits the offence of treating.

    (5) Notwithstanding anything in this section, the provision of a light supper after any election meeting shall be deemed not to constitute the offence of treating.

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  61. radvad (736 comments) says:

    “More Internet users than gun owners…….just saying”

    Hey dickhead, are you saying gun owners don’t use the internet?

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  62. RightNow (7,015 comments) says:

    I can’t wait to see their immigration policy.

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  63. adze (2,130 comments) says:

    It was always clear that Alistair Thompson and Scoop were never “independent” – at least politically.

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  64. Keeping Stock (9,381 comments) says:

    Quite so adze – especially when Scoop is owned by Selwyn Pellett, the entrepreneur that Labour keeps trotting out, and a significant donor to the Labour Party.

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  65. RightNow (7,015 comments) says:

    KS – that’s “entrepreneur”, you forgot the quotation marks.

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  66. Viking2 (11,680 comments) says:

    slightlyrighty (2,384 comments) says:
    January 15th, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    All other political considerations aside, including who will take support from whom, but has anyone considered the ramifications of what is happening here.

    We have a foreigner of considerable wealth gained through dubious means, who is now using that wealth to fund a politcal party to change politics in NZ.

    If this was James Cameron, the left would be up in arms.
    =======================

    So you don’t read the news then. About 2 years ago to the day or so the Govt.’s of NZ and th USA stole all his money(aka known as his wealth in your terms.).
    They didn’t however, take his brain, so it would seem that even without that forgone cash KDC has with the help of friends managed to accrue more cash. Indicates to me at least that his has nonce and ambition.
    Like people wlike that. Better than many already in the trough from all sides of the political spectrum.

    And better still he wants others to be wealthy. Not just the Nat bum lickers and union officials.

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  67. lolitasbrother (774 comments) says:

    Surely it must be oblivion to your cause if you hire Martyn the mad manic street preacher

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  68. RRM (10,099 comments) says:

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  69. duggledog (1,625 comments) says:

    Bradbury – livin’ the dream. I wonder what delusions of grandeur fly around in his wee heid. He’s come so far from being editor of Craccum… no actually he’s pretty much stayed still, just more readers. Not many more, but more.

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  70. Pete George (23,831 comments) says:

    I’m not a lawyer but to me it looks like Dotcom’s Party Party is inextricably linked to his Internet Party despite him trying to backtrack yesterday. So holding the party – or even attending the party – could be corrupt practice under the ‘Treating’ section of the Electoral Act.

    http://yournz.org/2014/01/16/is-dotcoms-party-party-political-treating/

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  71. Dirty Rat (383 comments) says:

    Bradbury is a blogger..not a journalist

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  72. ChardonnayGuy (1,232 comments) says:

    How common are cyberlibertarian parties like the Internet Party and how successful have they been?

    How might the Internet Party do in this context? Centre-right blogger Cam Slater thinks that the Internet Party is excessively narrow in pursuing its planned political niche and that it might therefore remain an unelectable microparty. Is he correct about this?

    Dotcom’s proposal sounds similar to that advanced by the German Pirate Party and its cyberlibertarian counterparts in New Zealand, Sweden, Austria, Denmark, Finland, Ireland, the Netherlands, Spain, Australia, Brazil, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Estonia, France, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, India, Italy, Luxembourg, Mexico, Nepal, Norway, Slovenia, Poland, Switzerland, Tunisia and the United Kingdom. Of these, state German Pirate Parties have won state legislature and city council seats, the Czech Pirate Party has a Senate and city council seats, the Iceland Pirate Party has three parliamentary seats in its national parliament, the Swedish Pirate Party elected two European Parliamentary members and the Swiss Pirate Party has two municipal councillors while the Catalonian Pirate Party has two municipal councillors. So, parliamentary and local council representation does seem possible, although it seems to be the case that cyberlibertarian parties have had their greatest success in European politics, particularly within the German state and municipal context.

    Could that be replicated here? There have been considerable public protests about Key administration online surveillance and data interception legislation and its potentially chilling effects on government transparency and accountability and civil liberties. However, the federal German Pirate Party failed to pick up Bundestag seats due to its political naivetie and absence of legislative experience. Still, given that former Scoop parliamentary press gallery journalist Alistair Thompson is interim party secretary, the Internet Party may be able to sidestep these potential teething problems. But is New Zealand too economically underdeveloped for such parties to be politically viable? Or could the Greens end up incorporating cyberlibertarian concerns into their greater party agenda?

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  73. ChardonnayGuy (1,232 comments) says:

    Or a classical liberal party, perhaps? The Liberal Democrats and German Free Democrats have strong cyberlibertarian strands within their party issue profiles. Which may explain Peter Dunne’s sudden interest in the issue, given his admiration for much of the LibDem political programme.

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  74. awryly (14 comments) says:

    The US government and corporates have a lot to fear from Dotcom’s Internet Party. Simply because it represents one of the few political parties that represent freedom from corporate control. The Pirate Party that originated in Sweden and now spans the world is not dissimilar but focuses on different issues. It has members in the European Parliament.

    The advantage the Internet Party has is that it has a very sizeable potential constitutency in New Zealand and overseas. Tens of thousands young people whose passions are not raised sufficiently to vote on other issues will see internet freedom as their political raison d’etre and gravitate to the Internet Party.

    If the Internet Party is successful in NZ, it is likely to spread to other countries with so far similarly self-disenfranchised youth. That will mean a heap of trouble for corporates in proportionally elected assemblies in other countries (like Australia).

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  75. awryly (14 comments) says:

    There’s a good chance Dotcom’s “Internet Party” will get the 5% of the national vote he would need to get into Parliament. He is a very popular figure here likely to attract (a) many young voters whose only issue is the availability of free media, (b) others who have problems with the way the current right-wing government and its spy agencies behave – largely to oblige the Americans, (c) a general dislike in this country of the USA and its foreign policies, and (d) people who admire his charisma.

    He will energise people who have not voted before and people dissatisfied with the established parties. The National Government has associated itself with a zany religious conservative party in the hopes it will also get 5%, combine with National, and help keep it in government.

    Dotcom is a huge spoke in those wheels. And in the wheels of the US Department of Justice, which is trying to extradite him on charges that are here highly unpopular.

    Of course, if he becomes a political figure, the US DoJ will find the going even harder than it has been so far.

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