Two Greens MPs facing sacking with Green Party List

January 31st, 2014 at 4:44 pm by David Farrar

I’ve been leaked a copy of the draft an unoffical Green Party List. This is the version done by the hierarchy and leadership. The initial draft list is done by the hierarchy and then members then get to vote on this, and tweak it. They often do make some changes, but the bulk of the rankings don’t change much.

  1. Russel Norman (+1 from 2011)
  2. Metiria Turei (-1)
  3. Kevin Hague (nc)
  4. Eugenie Sage (+2)
  5. Catherine Delahunty (-1)
  6. Julie Anne Genter (+7)
  7. Gareth Hughes (nc)
  8. Kennedy Graham (-3)
  9. Denise Roche (+2)
  10. Jan Logie (-1)
  11. Marama Davidson (new)
  12. Holly Walker (nc)
  13. Mojo Mathers (+1)
  14. Aaryn Barlow (+4)
  15. James Shaw (nc)
  16. Steffan Browning (-6)
  17. David Clendon (-9)
  18. Dora Langsbury (+4)
  19. Barry Coates (new)
  20. Sea Rotman (nc)

So the big winner is Julie-Anne Genter who in 2011 was ranked below Holly Walker, but has shot up to 6th place – twice as high as Holly. Genter has been a very hard and effective worker, so no surprise.

Browning and Clendon face demotion to unwinnable places.

Women make up nine of the top 13 of the draft list. Imagine the outcry if it was the other way around!

Davidson looks likely to become an MP, if this list is accepted. Aaryn Barlow may make it in also, which if they got 14 MPs, would make around 30% of their caucus Maori.

It will be interesting to see the final list, and if Clendon and Browning remain in unwinnable spots.

Also interesting to see if the well respected James Shaw gets higher than 15.

UPDATE: Just had clarified that this is not the official draft list out together by the hierarchy. That process begins in around two weeks.

The source who provided this says this is a draft that has circulated internally among some members. The source is reliable as they also provided the official draft list to me last time.

So the list that the hierarchy draws up, is not necessarily this list. The official process has yet to begin. No doubt we will see in time if the official list resembles this unofficial one doing the rounds.

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42 Responses to “Two Greens MPs facing sacking with Green Party List”

  1. kowtow (6,690 comments) says:

    It’s not a draft list.

    It’s a daft list.

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  2. Pete George (21,804 comments) says:

    I presume swapping Norman for Turei is just taking turns at the top.

    Greens would like to think they’d get a few more MPs which would mean Browning and Clendon could still sneak through.

    No surprise to see Genter move up, and Davidson leapfrogging into contention was well signalled. Delahunty at 5 is interesting, is she really rated that much within Greens?

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  3. geoff3012 (21 comments) says:

    Fuck wit list……

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  4. nickb (3,629 comments) says:

    Are Browning and Clendon hetero middleaged WASPs and have been demoted accordingly?

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  5. geoff3012 (21 comments) says:

    PG

    turns on top……..uuuuggghhhhh

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  6. Viking2 (10,709 comments) says:

    Hopefully the list will be irrelevant just like Turei. She of many jackets. :lol:

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  7. Joanne (177 comments) says:

    I just listened to Garner Live and Turei spent a year analysing the barbs of the likes of Judith Collins and came to the conclusion they were racist. WOW. What a friggin waste of dearly needed brainpower. I’m shocked a person would spend a year analysing barbs. Why not practice throwing them back.

    Judith Collins is a wit and very quick similar to David Lange.

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  8. jaba (2,068 comments) says:

    of the names I recognise, I would only rate Hague .. the fact that Delahunty is No5 says it all really

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  9. David Garrett (5,120 comments) says:

    In field where there were many contenders, Clendon was very high on my list of Least Inspiring Speakers in the House…he was also woefully ill informed on his supposed area of spokesmanship – Law and Order – and also clearly not very bright. But at least he didn’t simply make things up like that little germ Hughes…

    Kevin Hague is a thoroughly decent guy, regardless of his politics…

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  10. kahikatea (16 comments) says:

    Sorry, I have to call Bull**it on this. The Green Party list ranking process doesn’t involve a list drawn up by ‘the hierarchy’. It starts with a list created by an STV vote of delegates from each electorate, and that doesn’t happen until mid-February. This list must be a forgery.

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  11. davidp (3,319 comments) says:

    Kennedy Graham is a bewildered old man who is well into his 70s. Surely he isn’t going to stand for re-election?

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  12. Pete George (21,804 comments) says:

    More claims (from Green Party members) that this is a fake list.

    @georgedarroch
    An initial list is compiled – after the campaign conference & candidate training/assessment – in two weeks. A fake.

    Jack McDonald ‏@tautokai
    yes this either someone’s personal wishlist or a fabrication

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  13. Jack McDonald (199 comments) says:

    This is clearly a fake – at the most it is one individual’s personal wishlist. The initial list is ranked by delegates to the Campaign Conference when candidates participate in training and assessment. This is being held in a few weeks, so it’s impossible for a draft list to have been drawn up.

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  14. igm (857 comments) says:

    Is there anyone on the list that has ever supported themselves by way of private sector employment, operating a bona fide successful business, or are they all failed academics and beneficiaries? Seems to be the greatest collective group of riff ever to insult the political system of any country.

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  15. Pete George (21,804 comments) says:

    But someone must have put together the list. Mostly the changes seem to match performance so the ranking seems reasonable (apart from the gender imbalance).

    Someone pondering prior to the conference? There must be prior thought put into it, I’ve seen speculation on some already.

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  16. big bruv (12,348 comments) says:

    I do hope that one of the stinking Green men is brave enough to make a stand about the sexist nature of their party list.

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  17. Peter (1,468 comments) says:

    Genter and Hague are both very good, although I disagree with almost all their politics. The existence of Delahunty on this list, or indeed any list involving leadership, remains one of life’s enduring mysteries.

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  18. NK (916 comments) says:

    So funny. This list comprises a communist; a feminist/communist; a gay man; a mad woman who wants Tino Rangitiratanga; an American; a man who dresses up as a clown to protest; and then a deaf female.

    Of course the ones missing out are two middle class white males.

    This is not meant in any way to be disparaging, it’s just the absolute truth.

    And they want to form a government and pass laws!!

    As I said, it’s so funny.

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  19. Nostradamus (2,758 comments) says:

    jack McDonald:

    The initial list is ranked by delegates to the Campaign Conference when candidates participate in training and assessment.

    Training and assessment in what exactly?

    Ah – you mean Green Idol right?

    Greens announce hip hop tour of universities
    Published: April 1, 2011
    by Gareth Hughes

    The Green Party today announced that it will be carrying out a hip hop tour of universities to help raise students’ awareness of environmental and social justice issues.

    “We are always keen to find new ways to reach out to people not involved in politics and we think a hip hop tour is a great way to connect with a younger audience,” said Green Party youth spokesperson Gareth Hughes.

    “On a personal level I’m keen to use this as an opportunity to change the image that we are all into morris dancing. I myself only morris dance semi-regularly and I don’t think it reflects the Green Party’s full range of dance interests.”

    Gareth Hughes will be joined by Co-leader Russel Norman and David Clendon on the hip hop tour. The group is known as the Massive Salad and will feature MCs G-Roar (Mr Hughes), Rad (Dr Norman), and LL Cool D (Professor Clendon).

    “I’ve been using LL Cool D for a while now,” added Prof Clendon,” It actually stands for ladies love cool David but I find the acronym less of a mouthful.”

    “My mum always tells me how rad I am, so I decided to use it as my mc name,” said Dr Norman.

    A sample from Massive Salad’s great green conversation song is outlined below:

    We are rolling ridiculous, but you know we dress meticulous,” kicked in G-Roar.

    I’m a hip hop hippopotamus, who never gets drunk and lost,” rumbled LL Cool D.

    I’m the Rad, I’m red, and I’m really really bad, my steps are so quick, my steps are so fast. My hair is ginger, I’m a bit like a ninja,” roared Dr Norman.

    We green, we great, there aint no need to hate,” all MCs.

    The hip hop tour begins on the first of April 2011 at Victoria University.

    Is this the sort of standard that prospective Green candidates have to measure up to?

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  20. georgedarroch (303 comments) says:

    Thanks for updating the post David.

    What you are seeing is probably someone’s wishlist, which they are then shopping to others in search of support. Those discussions usually happen informally, and a concerted campaign for or against any candidate would likely be frowned upon and likely to backfire.

    As noted above, the Greens have a campaign conference in two weekends time. The list ranking process starts at that point. At that conference, candidates are assessed on a range of attributes, most of which will be familiar to members of other parties. Successful candidates are then entered into the pool to receive initial ranking, which is done through a closed STV voting process with votes from branches and senior elected officials. That list then goes out to the membership, who have their vote on the list. This then goes back to the executive for consideration, and a final list is adopted. There are rules about sex balance, geography, Maori, and age, all of which bind the party and make a list like the one above very different to any final list.

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  21. Longknives (4,044 comments) says:

    Ha Ha Catherine Delahunty at 5- Is there a more batshit insane person in NZ politics?

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  22. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    Is there a more batshit insane person in NZ politics?

    Darien Fenton makes Delahunty look the epitome of sanity.

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  23. David Garrett (5,120 comments) says:

    PEB:…I have to disagree…one can have a half decent conversation with Fenton…not so with Delahunty…mad as the proverbial cut snake…and actually a very dangerous person..

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  24. jaba (2,068 comments) says:

    my understanding, not confirmed, is that Delahunty is the MP for Mars .. can someone confirm?

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  25. Samuel Smith (266 comments) says:

    @David Garrett – Delahunty turn her party into the laughing stock of NZ politics? Does she have multiple criminal convictions? Didn’t think so.

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  26. BlairM (2,266 comments) says:

    How does Delahunty keep getting high rankings? She is clearly batshit insane, and in no way could possibly attract votes to the party. She is there in spite of her public image. Yet she keeps getting the love. That says everything about the Green Party membership, they are clearly as nutty as she is.

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  27. bhudson (4,720 comments) says:

    @BlairM,

    Because more than anyone else she represents exactly what the Greens really stand for. The only reason she has such a low ranking is that they are scared that the truth might scare off voters

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  28. radvad (620 comments) says:

    @David Garrett – Delahunty turn her party into the laughing stock of NZ politics? Does she have multiple criminal convictions? Didn’t think so.

    And I thought the left prided themselves in giving second chances. I am being kind in saying they are nothing more than fakes and flakes.

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  29. Johnboy (13,386 comments) says:

    Genter’s a sexy wee chick. No brains but great body. We need folk like her to be spokesperson on roads and highways and riding bicycles and all that sort of stuff!! :)

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  30. Johnboy (13,386 comments) says:

    Evening minus monster! :)

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  31. jaba (2,068 comments) says:

    agree Johnboy .. she is a hottie BUT the voice and tone turn me off

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  32. Zapper (843 comments) says:

    radvad – that only applies to lowlife violent criminal scum. They get second chances because if they vote, they’ll vote for the lowlife smelly criminal apologists.

    If someone on the right has a mishap, that’s to be used for years. We’re talking a uni prank here, not even violent crime. Yet attempted rape in their deputy leaders house is glossed over.

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  33. smttc (638 comments) says:

    Johnboy, you obviously missed Genter’s photo op in front of Parliament a wee while back about MPs who bike to work where her fat tree trunks for legs and tattoos were on full display. Never judge a body by the head and torso.

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  34. Johnboy (13,386 comments) says:

    Don’t forget I’m an old chap who thinks Judith and Anne are hottie’s smttc! :)

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  35. Sponge (108 comments) says:

    Draft list or a list of the daft?

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  36. smttc (638 comments) says:

    Johnboy @ 8.56pm in that case all is forgiven. Go for it. :-)

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  37. Camryn (549 comments) says:

    @igm – Yes, James Shaw has worked in the private sector.

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  38. noskire (797 comments) says:

    Julie Anne Genter is recognised within the transportation industry as an expert on parking policy and the economic and transport effects thereof.

    FFS. Seriously?

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  39. hj (5,677 comments) says:

    marama davidson is an example of education decreasing birth rate (has 6 kids).
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10893233

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  40. hj (5,677 comments) says:

    Human Rights Commission adviser Marama Davidson has withdrawn an apology she made to David Rankin over swearing at him in te reo.

    Mr Rankin, of Ngapuhi, called the move farcical and said the adviser should lose her job.

    Ms Davidson had criticised Mr Rankin’s slamming of the foreshore and seabed protest hikoi which he said was an embarrassment to Maori.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10717146
    HRC advisor. I bet she’ll get a good salary for a job like that.

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  41. hj (5,677 comments) says:

    marama Davidson nasty bitch
    http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2013/12/01/fair-democracy-let-david-hay-speak-and-put-his-hand-up-fair-democracy-common-sense-and-strong-leadership-spoke-back/

    Hangs her opponent’s picture upside down (mockingly).

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  42. jp_1983 (98 comments) says:

    i thought their list had to go man\woman\man\woman…… so much for equality.

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