A day of horrors for Labour

February 18th, 2014 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

Monday started off badly enough for with the weekend poll showing them 17% behind National.

Then they veered towards the ridiculous with saying that he thinks the National Party may be paying people to follow MPs about.

It got worse when Cunliffe attacked John Key for living in a $10 million mansion, as this shifted focus on the fact he lived in a $2.5 million mansion himself.

Herne Bay is one of the country’s most expensive suburbs. Mr Cunliffe’s road, Marine Parade, is considered the suburb’s best street.

What this means is that Marine Parade is the most expensive street in the entire country.

“We bought the worst house in the best street,” says Mr Cunliffe. “It was a do-up; it probably wouldn’t be the average of the area.

John Key is open about the fact he has been successful and is well off. Cunliffe does not help himself when he describes a $2.5 million house on the most expensive street in New Zealand as a “do-up”.

Then the news broke that TVNZ had been hosting Labour Party campaign meetings, and that a senior TVNZ manager has resigned after hosting a hui which David Cunliffe attended.

A disaster of a day for Labour. No political management. And just to make it worse, the Taranaki Daily News reports that a young photographer was asked by David Cunliffe to delete a photo she took of him.

Where was Cunliffe’s press secretary. It is their job to stop the Leader doing stuff such as asking for photos to be deleted, or expressing paranoid musings that the Government has hired spies to follow MPs about. Likewise his staff should be pointing out to Cunliffe that you shouldn’t attack John Key for living in nice house, when you live in a $2.5 house on the most expensive street of New Zealand. It really is shambolic. If they are like this in opposition, how would they go trying to actually run a country?

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57 Responses to “A day of horrors for Labour”

  1. Barnsley Bill (983 comments) says:

    Lord Cunliffe of Herne Bay must be hell to be around at the moment.
    I pity the servants cooking his roast swan at the mansion tonight. Better make sure it is cooked proper…

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  2. YesWeDid (1,048 comments) says:

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  3. dirty harry (486 comments) says:

    Silent T = Fail. Who’s next for a round in the hot seat , they must be running out of contenders. Comedy gold.

    Then you have wussel making a dick of himself with Colin Craig.

    These losers want to run the country…God help us.

    Key and the Nats must be pissing themselves with laughter…

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  4. Huevon (222 comments) says:

    It isn’t “poor political management”. This is what David Cunliffe is like!! There are good reasons why his colleagues can’t stand him. They might be Leftists, but they can still judge someone’s character. He is shaping into NZ’s version of Kevin Rudd.

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  5. alex Masterley (1,517 comments) says:

    By calling his home a do-up Mr Cunliffe is just asking for trouble.
    He will now be asked what has been done up and how much it cost.
    And what he says will be compared to the council records.
    and if he gets it wrong………

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  6. tom1980 (44 comments) says:

    “how would they go trying to actually run a country?”

    With the same mixture of arrogance, incompetence and corruption they’ve shown during the past six years?

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  7. RRM (9,917 comments) says:

    I thought Paratai Drive was the most expensive street in the country?

    Agree with the thrust of this post totally DPF… but Cunliffe’s comments about his own house do not seem unreasonable.

    How long has he owned it? If it really was an old bomb, he could have paid a lot less than the current valuation…??

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  8. RRM (9,917 comments) says:

    “how would they go trying to actually run a country?”

    The Civil Service would run the country. A Labour Govt would be having the directors’ meetings…

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  9. Camryn (543 comments) says:

    RRM – Paratai Drive has definitely been toppled by Marine Parade… it probably happened quite a while ago now.

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  10. chris (647 comments) says:

    If the media were any good in NZ, they’d pop along to QV, pay for the report and see how much David Cunliffe paid for it when he moved in. Compare that with house price movements in the time he’s owned it, and we’d quickly know whether it was a do up or if he’s just telling porkies. I wouldn’t hold my breath though.

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  11. Harriet (4,969 comments) says:

    “…..If they are like this in opposition, how would they go trying to actually run a country?…”

    Much like Rudd & the Greens & the independants….then Gillard & the Greens & the independants……then Rudd & the Greens & the independants again.

    Along with Winnie & Hone…….and of course Karl……..don’t forget Karl. :cool:

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  12. Yogibear (366 comments) says:

    So if its a $2.5m “do-up” does that mean it’ll be worth $10m in a couple of years time?

    Mark Hotchin’s builders have just finished, maybe David should make a call.

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  13. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    “Tojo” Cunliffe tries to play to losers supporting Labour’s policies of envy, he is a real disaster, and lacks moral fibre, as well as fiscal abilities.

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  14. davidp (3,581 comments) says:

    >Where was Cunliffe’s press secretary.

    Cunliffe needs a “hey Clint” to tell him what to do.

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  15. RRM (9,917 comments) says:

    3 news video won’t play for me… Is that Chez Cunliffe or Chez Key, the older-looking white house with steep dark roof, behind the hedge and iron gate?

    It would be a courageous decision to buy a big old place like that, old houses have a way of serving up expensive maintenance nightmares; and the bigger the old house, the more old services and old materials there are waiting to crap out. I hope the owner didn’t go all-in when he purchased, and has plenty of readies in reserve for when the nightmares start coming to the surface…

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  16. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    Cunliffe – a more eloquent disaster than Shearer.

    Different liptsick on the same old Labour pig.

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  17. alex Masterley (1,517 comments) says:

    Chris, @9.22
    And get a Lim and a copy of the council property file, all available from the council.

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  18. Nigel (514 comments) says:

    Baldrick, I have a cunning plan, so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a ferrit, we will act really incompetent and those foolish national leaders will underestimate us come election time, but sir what if we are incompetent, oh shut up baldrick.
    Seriously this is shambolic, labours only glimmer is jones, a wise caucus would elect him leader post haste, thankfully wise caucus and labour is an contradiction to end all contradictions.

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  19. Longknives (4,741 comments) says:

    But surely his “do- up” property in Herne Bay is going to be sold and the wealth immediately ‘redistributed’ to the poor as per Labour/Greens mantra??

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  20. Harriet (4,969 comments) says:

    “…….It would be a courageous decision to buy a big old place like that, old houses have a way of serving up expensive maintenance nightmares; and the bigger the old house, the more old services and old materials there are waiting to crap out. I hope the owner didn’t go all-in when he purchased, and has plenty of readies in reserve for when the nightmares start coming to the surface……”

    You’re such a bloody pessimist RRM.

    Or is it the envy?………..It is isn’t it? :cool:

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  21. Yogibear (366 comments) says:

    What I don’t get about Cunliffe is his embarrassment over his (reasonably modest) wealth. Its almost like the kid from the wrong side of the tracks made good, trying to hide their lower-middle class roots, lest his wealthy friends make fun of him….. Except this is in reverse.

    NZ Politics is full of wealthy people with strong social consciences who comfortably and credibly straddle “both worlds”. Banks, Key, Hubbard readily spring to mind. Hell, even Anderton had a bit of coin through business interests.

    Yet the current and recent Labour party seems full of “wealth deniers” such as Cunliffe, Chauvel (former partner at Minters), even Shearer with his offshore bank account. It just makes them look shifty at a time when they need to embrace people who have been successful to show to the average NZ voter they have real-world credentials outside of the beltway.

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  22. Barnsley Bill (983 comments) says:

    The problem for silent T is that all the underlings that Clarkula relied upon to run lines, spin and interference as well as collect bugs and roaches for her to eat are all now MP’s. Compounded by the fact that they all hate him and want his job.
    The Viscount Cunliffe of Herne Bay is a man alone.
    He has poor advice, incompetent advisors, a caucus that will continue to poofinger him and an inability to be truthfull.
    The sinking feeling in the pit of his stomach is going to play hell with his evening cigar and port. His domestic staff must be cowering in their quarters beneath stairs.
    When the Presland idiot is a key member of your team you have to wake up to the fact that you are never going to be PM.

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  23. Graeme Edgeler (3,289 comments) says:

    What this means is that Marine Parade is the most expensive street in the entire country.

    … Cunliffe does not hep himself when he describes a $2.5 million house on the most expensive street in New Zealand as a “do-up”.

    Your maths sucks, DPF. It does not mean this at all.

    The most expensive street in the most expensive suburb does not have to be the most expensive street in the entire country. And based on a quick search, it appears there are several other more expensive streets.

    And the most expensive street “in ONE OF the country’s most expensive suburbs” makes this even more of a stretch. You can do better than this, DPF.

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  24. Brian Smaller (4,023 comments) says:

    It just makes them look shifty

    That is because they are shifty.

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  25. Mrs Trellis (34 comments) says:

    But at least he breast-fed his bairns….

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  26. Keeping Stock (10,337 comments) says:

    As for Shane Taurima, David Cunliffe needs a Chief of Staff; just sayin’…

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  27. dubya (235 comments) says:

    Who cares if Cunliffe’s house isn’t the best in the street, RRM? John Key bought doer-upper too. He just demolished it and built a better one! No doubt creating employment. Possibly hard for Cunners to grasp.

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  28. RRM (9,917 comments) says:

    Or is it the envy?………..It is isn’t it? :cool:

    My God you talk a lot of shit Harriet.

    I own a 1960s house that had an extension done in the 1980s. I’ve seen a few applications of O’sullivan’s Law (Murphy was an optimist) in just the short time I’ve been there.

    Pessimism / prudence / take your pick. When it’s your own money you tend to be a bit more pessimistic about a lot of things.

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  29. Reid (16,447 comments) says:

    Cunliffe does not help himself when he describes a $2.5 million house on the most expensive street in New Zealand as a “do-up”…Where was Cunliffe’s press secretary.

    When you’ve been a disingenuous self-obsessed arrogant lying slimeball all your live and those traits are what got you to where you are today, it’s probably hard to shed that overnight.

    This is the reason I’ve been saying since before his election to the leadership that the more the public see of Silent-T the less they will like him.

    I’m guessing that his biggest issue is that he is so tremendously arrogant he probably ignores the advice of people like Brian Edwards and his own press secretary (poor bastard), who are the only people who have any hope whatsoever of preventing him from becoming the most hated leader in Liarbore’s history. In that sense he’s like Len who shares a similar level of arrogance but unlike Len, he has none of the smarm which fools so many, to cover it up.

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  30. Huevon (222 comments) says:

    @ Yogibear – to understand that, you need to understand the way Leftists think…

    I believe the fundamental characteristic of a contemporary Leftist is ingratitude. They believe that everything they have is something the world owes to them. Cunners has to talk down what he has. It’s impossible for him to enjoy and share his wealth, it just isn’t in his DNA

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  31. davidp (3,581 comments) says:

    Does Cunliffe own his home, or is it owned by a family trust? The icing on the cake here would be if Cunliffe had structured his affairs to avoid the capital gains tax that Labour are advocating.

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  32. tvb (4,418 comments) says:

    Herne Bay tops the list for most expensive street and Marine Parade is one of the most expensive streets in Herne Bay but Kelmana Ave is probably more expensive. Cunliffe is not doing himself favours when he looks shifty about all this. His wife is a successful Queen Street Lawyer and Cunliffe had a successful business career before going into politics. They are a successful couple but why is he so sensitive about all this. Cunliffe has a very good back story but the Labour Party forbids him to tell it.

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  33. Scott Chris (6,135 comments) says:

    “We bought the worst house in the best street,” says Mr Cunliffe.

    Perhaps this symbolises a plan so Cunners that you could ‘pin a tail on it and call it a weasel’. Labour’s political strategy is to get to rock bottom as quickly as possible so the only way will be up, thus National will make its run too early and run out of steam:

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  34. Reid (16,447 comments) says:

    Does Cunliffe own his home, or is it owned by a family trust?

    Trust.

    http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/02/labour-cunliffe-bad-week-going-get-worse/#more-126594

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  35. Nostalgia-NZ (5,198 comments) says:

    This is all storm in a teacup stuff really. If voters are going to be deterred from voting for Cunliffe because he lives in Herne Bay they are hardly likely, therefore, going to be voting for National. What it may show however is that, like his seemingly 2 positions with the unions, DC similarly runs the risk of confusing the electorate by trying to down play living in Herne Bay. He should take the same position as JK and be open about where the lives because even a ‘do up’ in Herne Bay is worth millions and is hardly the same as a ‘do up’ in Porirua or some such place. But I guess this is what we can look forward to in election year, ‘alarmed horror’ from the right and left about the activities of each other as though a pool of votes will swing over relatively minor issues – the electors are generally more astute than that – it will be the economy foremost and issues which derive from it.

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  36. Graeme Edgeler (3,289 comments) says:

    Does Cunliffe own his home, or is it owned by a family trust? The icing on the cake here would be if Cunliffe had structured his affairs to avoid the capital gains tax that Labour are advocating.

    Ask and ye shall receive.

    The most recent Register of Pecuniary Interests, includes the following:

    Hon David Cunliffe (Labour, New Lynn)
    4 Beneficial interests in, and trusteeships of, trusts
    Bozzie Family Trust

    6 Real property
    Family home (owned by trust), Auckland

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  37. dubya (235 comments) says:

    Small and exclusive Cremorne Street in Herne Bay is the most expensive in NZ based on average rateable value (often media figures are based on recent sales – so if there are none in a street that year, it skews things). I suspect Marine Parade isn’t far behind, but it’s a much longer street with unit titles/apartments in the mix, to lower the average value. A free-standing old house like Cunliffe’s is definitely not the ‘worst’ on Marine Parade, IMHO as a local. In fact, even if it was totally unsalvageable, he’d probably be able to sell the land alone for what he paid a few years ago, possibly more.

    All that aside – what a cock that man is!

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  38. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Big difference: Key is a highly successful and affluent self-made man, Cunliffe born with a silver spoon, and a desperate loser.

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  39. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    “david cunliffe says he would rather live in new lynn” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    yeah me too! i grew up in glen eden, would LOVE to be back there! unfortunately i have to live in my palace further north.

    What an unlikable, lying prick this guy is.

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  40. Harriet (4,969 comments) says:

    “……Pessimism / prudence / take your pick. When it’s your own money you tend to be a bit more pessimistic about a lot of things….”

    Fair enough. Very sensable too.

    But then you are tax neutral RRM……..as you don’t see any wrong in National at all……no pessimism at all……ever……….as you say RRM – it isn’t your money is it? :cool:

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  41. BeaB (2,123 comments) says:

    Ha. So the poor old plebs will pay capital gains while he rakes in the dough and feathers his own nest!
    What else can we expect from someone who inflates his CV, sees spooks round every corner, tries to censor the media, is prepared to bow his knee to a conman and tells us lies?
    This man should make even the loony Left feel embarrassed.

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  42. big bruv (13,886 comments) says:

    I bet David Shearer (who despite being an ex Labour party leader is a thoroughly decent man) is loving this. Cuntliffe is falling apart at the seams.

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  43. RRM (9,917 comments) says:

    But then you are tax neutral RRM……..as you don’t see any wrong in National at all……no pessimism at all……ever……….as you say RRM – it isn’t your money is it? :cool:

    :neutral: Come again?? You’re making very little sense.

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  44. Harriet (4,969 comments) says:

    RRM – “……Pessimism / prudence / take your pick. When it’s your own money you tend to be a bit more pessimistic about a lot of things……”

    You don’t care how national spends money as you don’t pay any tax……if you did pay tax you would then be pessimistic about them. You never are.

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  45. David Garrett (7,271 comments) says:

    dime: did the idiot REALLY say he would “rather live in New Lynn”?? If so, that has to be one of the biggest clangers he has dropped…

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  46. RRM (9,917 comments) says:

    You don’t care how national spends money

    Wrong.

    as you don’t pay any tax

    Wrong.

    if you did pay tax you would then be pessimistic about them.

    Wrong.

    You never are.

    Wrong.

    And your off topic shit is ruining the thread.

    Go and sit in the corner and be alone in your wrongness somewhere else. General debate for example.

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  47. Dave_1924 (116 comments) says:

    When do the political survival instincts of the Caucus kick in here? Cunliffe is tumbling from one moment to the next….How hard is it under the new Labour party rules to have a leadership challenge??? Robertson must be grinning ear to ear with the way the messiah is going…..

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  48. unaha-closp (1,164 comments) says:

    The most expensive street in the most expensive suburb does not have to be the most expensive street in the entire country. And based on a quick search, it appears there are several other more expensive streets.

    State Highway 1 springs to mind.

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  49. 2boyz (262 comments) says:

    $2.5 million doer upper, poor bastard. Probably only has gold plated loos and not platinum like others in the street.

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  50. Alan (1,087 comments) says:

    This is all piffle, the election will be decided on policy.

    Seriously, who cares about this stuff?

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  51. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    Seriously, who cares about this stuff?

    Unfortunately the media lives on this stuff.

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  52. Alan (1,087 comments) says:

    Sorry, I meant voters. You know, real people.

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  53. ShawnLH (5,017 comments) says:

    The politics of envy really don’t work in NZ anymore. Maybe in the past, but not now, not with most Kiwis. Most Kiwis want better for themselves and their children and grandchildren. We are a far more aspirational culture than we used to be. “Look, hes got MONEY!!!” is a losing argument, especially when Cunliffe has far more than the average himself.

    Who the hell are this guys minders/advisers?

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  54. lilman (958 comments) says:

    Cunliffe is really struggling,problem for him is even those who wanted him as leader are now waning in support.
    The guy has issues across the board,coupled with Russel Norman he is in real danger of left voter simply not voting at all,if that happens then he is toast.

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  55. kiwi in america (2,449 comments) says:

    When Shearer was thrashing around helplessly like this at least his supporters could point to his inexperience in Parliament and beg for more time. Cunliffe has been around for long enough to know this stuff, he’s been in Cabinet AND he was elected to be the eloquent and charismatic messenger for the progressive left that Shearer wasn’t. All the while his hubris, corner cutting, fib telling, exaggerating and all round nasty guy persona was just a series of accidents waiting to happen.

    What makes it even more enjoyable is that the new Constitution means even if his opponents in caucus trigger a fresh leadership vote, another primary involving the party and unions voting has to happen which will look really messy this time round so close to an election and especially after Labour and their media cheerleaders spent many weeks congratulating themselves on what a wonderful thing the primary election was for the party’s 2014 chances.

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  56. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    How bad has the the last day, the last week and the year so far been for Labour? They might get an idea this Sunday. TVNZ are polling this week.

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  57. DJP6-25 (1,387 comments) says:

    A day of horrors for Liarbour is a good day for NZ.

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