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Yeah it was boring. A couple of lightweights. How cliched of Bear to claim he found God in the mountains. Why not in one of those those glitzy hotels he stays in between filming? Now if he had said he had found God why sucking the moisture out of Rhino poo then I might have believed him.
Perhaps you should learn a bit of British and European history?
The idea, for example, that the Vikings were waging a theological campaign is utterly risible.
What is true, however, is that, the British Isles were part of Europe’s murderous and fratricidal wars when, for hundreds of years of effective theocracy, Christians killed other Christians for being the wrong sort of Christian.
Indeed, in your very silly post, you specifically talk about “the Anglican Christianity that NZ society is based on.”
Fortunately, thanks to secularisation you no longer face torture and death at the hands of other “Christians” for your beliefs. And likewise, other “Christians” are safe from you Protestants.
All Western countries should have a National Secularism holiday, to recognise perhaps the greatest political development every made.
I like Stephen Fry’s humanity and honesty (when he’s not telling porkies) but his inner self loathing (he calls himself an utter c*nt), depression, vulnerability and low self esteem is exactly why he should explore C S Lewis and discover how christianity has served millions across the world over 2 millennia. He could learn a lot from Bear Grylls, Bob Dylan, Cliff Richard, the Celtic kings, the Irish monks, Charlemagne, and a gazillion others.
Even if you don’t believe in God, and hate christianity, the world you hold to is dark, desperately depraved and soulless by comparison.
I know! I was brought up during those wretched, Christianity saturated days & for that reason I feel eminently qualified to reject any attempts to change the secular society NZ has developed into.”
I am a child of the 1990s and feel eminently qualified to reject the post-Enlightenment, politically correct crap that has been forced down my throat every single year since I was five years old (i.e. the wonderful society that you and your ilk are responsible for inflicting on me and my generation.)
Methinks you are just parroting some propaganda you heard in church.
Christianity changed the world because it was made palatable to the Greeks and Romans by the educated religious fanatic Paul of Tarsus (Jesus favoured his own race, referring to Cannaanites as dogs). Paul’s Christianity embraced the poor and slaves of the Roman world, but at the same time did not upset the apple-cart of slavery, the rule of the Caesars, or patriarchal societies in general. It was also conveniently adopted by Constantine in his overthrow of Rome, when at the same time he he also backed the pagan worship of the unconquered sun (Sol Invictus), making Sunday the day of rest for the Roman Empire, which we continue today. It was a holy day for sun worshipping pagans and Mithraism (another dying & rising cult and early rival of Christianity), and later Christianity also conveniently adopted it.
For those of you who might be battling the booze or know somebody who needs assistance but cannot deal with the fact that AA is a bible bashing organisation then this is outstanding news. The sooner it reaches here the better.
The so called “Golden Rule” was around in cultures way before Jesus Christ. The Christian/Jewish version came from the prophet Tobit about 300 BC .
But it was around in other cultures such as the Greek, around 500 BC, in the Chinese culture around the same time (Confucianism), and Buddhism ( Gautama), and in another form but with similar meaning way back to the ancient Egyptians around 2000 BC.
Many of these cultures had inspired and good philosophers, along with the occasional bad -arses.
Such is human nature.
It was also espoused by many others. To say Jesus coined it is to admit a profound bias and ignorance of other cultures and their beliefs.
You are assuming we are all ignorant “Clueless Goyim” “gentile” white christian sub humans arn’t you?
YOU STILL DON’T GET IT and YOU probably NEVER WILL WILL YOU]
You will nit pick every lay by law and then
” That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.”
“A jewish Co worker said to me the Reason Hitler lost the War was that he persecuted the Jews
their Scientists went to America and developed the Bomb”
The New Zealander Ernest Rutherford is the Father of Nuclear Science but never mind.
What he was saying was really this if they had not we would have nuked you instead of the Japanese
to achieve our goals. They did it all on their own and with out a shadow of a doubt they would have nuked the people
who saved them instead and you would be the losers? is what he was saying?
Nice really? Nice thought that? to ponder? Thanks for the Sacrifice
thanks for helping form the State of Israel? Thanks for stopping Natzi Germany
But we had it all under control? and if ole A hitler had been a bit Nicer well
you would have lost
The First German I spoke to in NZ said…
“What you need is a War”?
Not sure what is worse anymore
But the Empathy for NZ and Arrogance speaks Volumes