Fenton on addiction

February 14th, 2014 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

Darien Fenton wrote in the HoS about her addiction to heroin in the 1970s. Good on her for talking openly about her experience and struggle. It can be painful talking about areas of our past where we have struggled with things, but I think it is good when people do so, as it sends a signal to others in the same position that can can get better.

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  1. big bruv (14,218 comments) says:

    I read that article. Only a stinking leftie could try and spin being a junkie to her advantage. I also noted that at no stage during the article did she thank the tax payer for funding her rehabilitation from a self imposed addiction.

    I have never liked, no respected Fenton, the article only increased my dislike for her.

    The sooner she is again unemployed the better.

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  2. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    To think this apparition has the audacity to try and tell people how to run their businesses. She is a leech.

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  3. Rex Widerstrom (5,013 comments) says:

    Big bruv at his empathetic best again.

    I don’t characterise Fenton’s admission as trying to use her struggles with addiction to her electoral advantage exactly for that reason – for every person who’s be moved by her story there’d be one like BB who’d see it through the narrow prism of their prejudice.

    I do wish she’d made more of the help she was given, though – so taxpayers would realise the value of the support given to people with addictions – Fenton, as far as I know, never burgled or robbed anyone to feed hers – and lobby government to increase it, as one of the most cost-effective crime prevention methods available.

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  4. big bruv (14,218 comments) says:

    Rex

    ” Fdnton, as far as I know, never burgled or robbed anyone to feed hers”

    How many Junkies do you know (or have heard of) who have not had to steal to feed their habit? If Fenton did not break one law during her self imposed addiction then let her tell us, otherwise I think it is safe to assume she was no different to any other junkie.

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  5. Camryn (481 comments) says:

    Agree she should have made a point of thanking the providers of the system (i.e. taxpayers) as well as the agents of the system (doctors and nurses). She imposed a cost on New Zealand through her selfish personal choices, but doesn’t quite seem to recognise that her gratitude should extend past those paid to help her and to those doing the paying… probably because those are the same people she has spent her political life hurting.

    Somehow she thinks that “getting more from taxpayers” is a worthy life mission instead of “encouraging others to be more individually responsible than she was so that taxpayers generosity is not unduly strained”.

    Only a selfish simpleton would think “that help was great… I should make sure more people can access it” instead of “that help was great, but I’m ashamed that I drew on it… I should make sure it can only be accessed by the truly deserving so that it’s always there for them”.

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  6. Longknives (4,956 comments) says:

    ” I also noted that at no stage during the article did she thank the tax payer for funding her rehabilitation ”

    She is a leftie- They believe they have a divine right to great pots of money from ‘Rich Pricks’ like us (Exhibit A- Philu).
    Quite simply- If she was a National, Conservative or Act MP she would have been forced to resign by now as the relentless media would have delved into every sordid aspect of her past and be camped outside her house demanding her resignation for these gross indecencies.
    But as she is from the parasitic left don’t expect her to be going away anytime soon (Exhibit B- Len Brown).

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  7. Sidey (255 comments) says:

    “it sends a signal to others in the same position that can can get better”

    But in her case it didn’t – she’s now a Labour MP.

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  8. PaulL (5,449 comments) says:

    I wouldn’t have been open about it if I were her. Unfortunately too many people will now take the opportunity to call her a recovering junkie or use other disparaging terms, rather than reflect on the fact it was 30 years or more ago, and she’s a different person now than she was then. For a similar reason many people don’t like to talk about their mental illness.

    And to be clear, I think that those who will now blither (as some above have done, yes, looking at you BB), are the worst of the right. When I talk to people who support the left (and whom I view as being misguided), one of the big reasons they think the right are all evil is because, well, on the blogs so many act in a way that is consistent with that belief. I.e. BB, when you act evil, people decide that all the right is evil. Your actions also tarnish me.

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  9. David Garrett (7,700 comments) says:

    Rex: You have to admit she would have been a very unusual junkie if she never committed any crime to feed her habit…of course 40 years ago she will have looked a good deal better than she does now, so mabye she sold herself…

    I am curious about the timing of this announcement…It was widely known when I was in the House that she had a past as a junkie…Of course no journalist was interested because, as others have said, she is from the left, and such a past enhances rather than damages a leftie’s political career…But I do wonder why she has suddenly decided to bare all….Can anything think of a reason?

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  10. Sidey (255 comments) says:

    I had a family member who was addicted to anything going. I only saw him when he was in a “good place” – as a lovely guy and the same as I remembered him when we were growing up together. But he put his parents through sheer hell, and it only got worse when the gangs started doorstepping them for debts owed by their son. He stole from them, other family, friends, clubs, everyone. I’m sure he’d have done the same from me if he had the chance.

    I don’t know if every junkie behaves the same. Personally, I wouldn’t give them the chance to find out. Wouldn’t let them near my family or property. But to be honest, would I feel differently if it was my son or daughter? Probably. Not close family though – stay away. Simply can’t be trusted. Full stop.

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  11. Longknives (4,956 comments) says:

    “of course 40 years ago she will have looked a good deal better than she does now, so mabye she sold herself…”

    A deathly cold chill just went down my spine.

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  12. Elaycee (4,425 comments) says:

    David Garrett:

    …of course 40 years ago she will have looked a good deal better than she does now, so maybe she sold herself…

    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo….. 8O

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  13. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    David Garrett: She must have participated in dishonest activities to fund her habit; if she had sold herself, she would have ended in bankruptcy, not rehabilitation.

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  14. thedavincimode (6,890 comments) says:

    But I do wonder why she has suddenly decided to bare all

    DG. Please don’t do that. :(

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  15. Sidey (255 comments) says:

    You don’t get a face like that from drinking orange juice and having early nights.*

    * apologies for the mangled quote from one of the Cold Chisel band members about Jimmy (I think).

    Ebit – and in relation to his voice. Sooooo, no real connection at all then.

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  16. RRM (10,099 comments) says:

    Good for her.. it would take a lot more balls to talk publicly about ghosts of your past like that, than to sign up to a blog forum and trash people under an anonymous handle.

    She doesn’t talk herself up like a hero, and she acknowledges the public funding… what more do you want; seppuku?

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  17. Rex Widerstrom (5,013 comments) says:

    David Garrett says:

    You have to admit she would have been a very unusual junkie if she never committed any crime to feed her habit

    I don’t know what the price of drugs were 30 years ago. There was less crime per capita, so I’d make the (admittedly broad) assumption that they were more affordable then than now, since a huge proportion of current offending can be traced back to the need to fund drug purchases. Plus, the article seems to say she used while in the Third World, which would have meant they were cheaper.

    But the point I was trying to make was that here’s an example of how rehabilitation has an excellent return on investment not just for the addict but for society as a whole, in that a rehabilitated person has no need to rob and steal (jokes about becoming a Labour MP notwithstanding).

    That seems to have got lost in all the Fenton-hating that people seem to feel the need to vent, however. Her politics aside, attacking an addict who’s had the courage and strength to clean up sends so many wrong messages to so many different groups I don’t know where to begin.

    For one thing, no one has mentioned that such contempt is deserved by the scum who peddle this poison to our young and psychologically vulnerable, not by their victims.

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  18. Psycho Milt (2,423 comments) says:

    I also noted that at no stage during the article did she thank the tax payer for funding her rehabilitation from a self imposed addiction.

    It’s not a very long article, but you apparently still managed to miss this paragraph:

    “This New Zealand health-funded programme saved my life and I pay tribute to the nurses, doctors and counsellors who were part of it.”

    Once you’ve completed an urgently-needed remedial empathy course, have a go at a remedial reading one.

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  19. Tookinator (222 comments) says:

    And now addicted to getting into power…?

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  20. big bruv (14,218 comments) says:

    PM

    “This New Zealand health-funded programme ”

    OK…so like all Lefties you think that money grows on trees.

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  21. PaulL (5,449 comments) says:

    @BB: don’t be an arse. You were wrong, she did note it, why don’t you just say “yup, I missed that bit” instead of going off on some other tangent?

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  22. big bruv (14,218 comments) says:

    PaulL

    Show me where she thanked the tax payer and I will admit that I got it wrong.

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  23. Psycho Milt (2,423 comments) says:

    OK…so like all Lefties you think that money grows on trees.

    Well, like all of them (and presumably every other adult in the country) I know where the health system gets its money from, and it’s not trees.

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  24. edhunter (554 comments) says:

    Yep take 40yrs & 40kg of her & I’d have given her one…just saying
    But seriously I don’t know Fenton form a bar of soap but surely parliament is better of for having someone with her life experiences there, to often politicians appear to come off a very narrow production line.

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  25. bc (1,395 comments) says:

    Big bruv, grow up.
    Fenton has thanked the doctors and nurses that treated her and acknowledged our public health system.
    She puts the blame at no one but herself.
    What more do you want?

    And before you say thanking the taxpayer, have a think about how pathetic that sounds.
    Do you thank the taxpayer when you drive on a highway?
    Do you thank the taxpayer when you go to a doctor or the hospital?
    If you have kids, do you make sure you thank the taxpeyer every day when they go to school?

    Etc etc

    Pathetic.

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  26. Paulus (2,711 comments) says:

    I assume that Fenton didn’t go directly into Heroin, but started on Cannabis and other drugs first, like they all do.
    I expect that she wants to decriminalise cannabis too !

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  27. bc (1,395 comments) says:

    Lots of assumptions there , Paulus.
    You know what they say about people who assume …

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  28. nasska (12,101 comments) says:

    Paulus

    Most alkies cite beer as being their first contact with drink….don’t you reckon that in the interests of public safety we’d better criminalise it as well?

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  29. gump (1,683 comments) says:

    @David Garrett

    “Can anything think of a reason?”

    ————————–

    I’d assume that she got wind that the Whale or some other media person was planning to publish something.

    It’s better to front-foot this type of story.

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  30. mara (770 comments) says:

    YAWN … clearly , nature did not grant this woman any aesthetic advantage. Schapelle Corby on the other hand ……..

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  31. RRM (10,099 comments) says:

    Schapelle Corby is drug dealer scum from a family of drug dealer scum. Should have been executed.

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  32. Psycho Milt (2,423 comments) says:

    I assume that Fenton didn’t go directly into Heroin, but started on Cannabis and other drugs first, like they all do.

    Actually, I’ll give you a hundred to one that tobacco or alcohol were the first ones she tried (and the way things are going, soon we’ll be able to say that sugar was the first one). Bans all round, is it?

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  33. Psycho Milt (2,423 comments) says:

    clearly , nature did not grant this woman any aesthetic advantage. Schapelle Corby on the other hand

    When it comes down to it, even if I was female I’d rather have Fenton’s “cognitive advantage” than Corby’s “aesthetic advantage” any day of the week.

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  34. Harriet (5,200 comments) says:

    “…..Schapelle Corby is drug dealer scum from a family of drug dealer scum. Should have been executed….”

    You think?

    All the baggage weight information in Brisbane, Sydney AND Bali went missing.

    All the cctv footage of anyone handling the boggie bag in Brisbane and Sydney went missing.

    The Federal government knows that a criminal gang at that time was sending drugs interstate throughout Australia via luggage workers and the bags of unsuspecting travellers.

    The pot was worth AU $4000 on the streets of Bali.

    In other words RRM:

    It would have made more financial sense for Schapelle to sell ‘her’ drugs in Brisbane before leaving Australia – and taking the profit[significantly more than $4k] to Bali with her.

    But then RRM – drugs will do that to you – as you have just shown! :cool:

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  35. Harriet (5,200 comments) says:

    “…..Actually, I’ll give you a hundred to one that tobacco or alcohol were the first ones she tried…”

    I’ll give you a hundred to one that FAR MORE people who try cigerette smoking fail to take it up – compared to the amount of people who go on to smoke pot after having first smoked cigerettes!

    Cigerettes are not a drug.

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  36. Psycho Milt (2,423 comments) says:

    Cigerettes are not a drug.

    Maybe not, but cigarettes are one motherfucker of a drug.

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  37. nasska (12,101 comments) says:

    Anyone given much thought to the theory that some people are just born to be addicts. Maybe someone knows of reliable studies done but my personal observation is that certain of the population, regardless of background, upbringing or education end up druggies, alkies or problem gamblers. Nothing they do is done in moderation & if one addiction is denied to them they’ll usually switch to another.

    I don’t reckon that they’ve ever been great in number but the damage they cause themselves & those around them is unreal. Regardless, their misfortune is not sufficient reason to deprive everyone else of their pleasures.

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  38. nasska (12,101 comments) says:

    ….”Cigarettes are not a drug”….

    Depends on your definition of a drug. They’re not in the sense of being an opiate but they contain nicotine which is one of the most addictive drugs on the planet.

    Including opium!

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  39. Harriet (5,200 comments) says:

    “….Depends on your definition of a drug….”

    Yes Nasska……drugs and addiction are two entirely different things.

    ‘Addiction’ is now being used instead of those old words ‘wanting’ and ‘more’ – and is now being used by the commies for everything from children wanting MORE lollies and Jungle Juice – to adults wanting MORE sex from their wifes. These people suffer from ‘addiction’ we are now told.

    It’s all about self restraint in such common matters as eating and rooting as both are actually needed – sugar included, but what is not needed is the results of having excess quantities of these – diabetes and sexual diseases[from promescuity].

    With REAL drugs it is about avoidance from the get go if you don’t want to suffer from ‘addiction’.

    Health ‘professionals’ confusing people by suggesting that heroin, lollies and cigs are almost one in the same helps no one – as the effects of having too many lollies and smokes over a long period of time is substantually different to trying heroin or other destructive drugs just ‘once’.

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  40. nasska (12,101 comments) says:

    Harriet

    Have a quick look at this link: http://addictions.knoji.com/top-ten-most-addictive-substances/

    If you don’t agree Google a few more but you’re going to find that alcohol & nicotine are two of the most addictive drugs ever discovered. The state of dependence for some users goes way beyond ‘wanting’ and ‘more’.

    They are capable of producing full blown addictions.

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  41. Johnboy (17,051 comments) says:

    Thank God for that info nasska. I thought I was one of the hated 1% but I’m just part of the 82%. Cheers! :)

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  42. Harriet (5,200 comments) says:

    “…..They are capable of producing full blown addictions……”

    Alcoholism is nothing more than immaturity, selfishness and irresponsability. I once lived with one – a very serious case. People who suffer from alcholism generally have issues in other areas of their lives that they are not addressing and instead use alcohol to lesson their worry.

    Drinking is fine – as long as you only have one or two at the end of the working day and one or two more at the end of the working week. I’d say the same for smoking too – sort of- as my doctor told me that if I couldn’t stop then at least cut down……Smoking a little then seems to be ok to the medical industry – but they’ed never publicise that.

    But I do see your point about the addictive ‘qualities’ of alcohol and smokes —– but then everyone already knows that…. some just don’t seem to care……..while most others do care. It’s the same for sugar and salt.

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  43. Sponge (265 comments) says:

    I loathe Fenton, I absolutely loathe her.

    But for all of that if she kicked a bad habit and has been clean for 30 odd years – well I respect her for that and fucking well done.

    Nasty hat back on – it might explain her orc like appearance.

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  44. lilman (973 comments) says:

    Just a druggie ,a piece of open legged shit ,no respect then deserves non now.

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  45. Zebulon (125 comments) says:

    Good on her but I bet she wishes she hadn’t “come out” with all the nasty stuff being said.

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