General Debate 08 February 2014

February 8th, 2014 at 8:00 am by David Farrar
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  1. kowtow (6,690 comments) says:

    Oh look,multicultural outreach in Syria.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2553864/British-fighter-Syria-blows-suicide-attack-Aleppo-prison.html

    Not “British” though.

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  2. peterwn (2,933 comments) says:

    See:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/9696746/Watchdog-probes-Trade-Me-boycott

    IMO the Commerce Commission seems to be over-eager in taking up Sam Morgan’s complaint about a ‘boycott’ of real estate agents against Trademe following their real estate listing price increases.

    I thought the Commerce Commission was there to protect the customer / consumer, and not as a ‘tool’ to be wielded by a near-monopoly such as Trademe (what Warren Buffett would call a ‘durable competitive advantage’) anxious to protest its patch. Trademe seems to have overplayed its hand in increasing prices and now wants to intimidate its real estate agent customers via the Commerce Commission to bail it out of a situation of its own making. It is rather like Commerce Commission saying that Consumer Magazine should be shut down as a collusion of consumers against businesses. There is also Tolpuddle Martyrs like overtones.

    There does seem to be a valid area of concern – but that is between vendors and their real estate agents. If an agent has habitually been listing its houses with Trademe, then it should inform prospective new listings that a Trademe listing is no longer part of the package but is an optional extra. Vendors should not be caught caught by surprise with this. This is easily remedied – if a customer had reasonably expected a Trademe listing as part of the package the agent should arrange it.

    If Trademe’s business model with real estate listings requires that (say) 90% of houses for sale are listed on Trademe, then Trademe must be prepared to meet an informed market (amongst real estate agents) with respect to its pricing. To obstruct a market being informed is anti-competitive and no way should the Commerce Commission be a party to this.

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  3. Keeping Stock (9,788 comments) says:

    Jesse Ryder and Doug Bracewell go into a bar at 1.30am on the morning of a test match. Sadly, this is not the beginning of a joke.

    Those who were pushing for Ryder to be included in the test team may want to think again. How many last chances do guys like this get, and does New Zealand cricket actually need them?

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2014/02/how-many-chances-are-one-too-many.html

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  4. flipper (3,269 comments) says:

    Lass gtime I checked cricket is a 11man game. Bracewell was # 123, which for the uin initiated means could act only AS A SUBSstitute feikder if requir5ed. Rydfer is not in the ;playing 11 pr 1

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  5. Pete George (21,804 comments) says:

    Hone Harawira on Ngapuhi and their treaty settlement:

    And as fate would have it, Ngapuhi’s place in the whole Treaty saga is about to come full circle for, just as Ngapuhi was the birthplace of Te Tiriti o Waitangi, so too does Ngapuhi provide the basis for our future understanding of Te Tiriti.

    The timing is right for Ngapuhi to step up to the challenge of ensuring Te Tiriti becomes a central plank in the constitutional transformation of Aotearoa, and the opportunity that it presents to redefine the future for its own descendants.

    It would be interesting to get more detail from Harawira on what his central plank in the constitutional transformation of Aotearoa actually means.

    He seems to be proposing a sort of socialism that gives overall power plus preferential treatment and funding to Maori descendants (funded by much higher taxing of the predominately non-Maori ‘rich’) with Ngapuhi playing a leading role.

    Harawira’s conflicting Treaty of Waitangi and socialist ambitions

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  6. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    kowtow (6,272 comments) says:
    February 8th, 2014 at 8:02 am
    Oh look,multicultural outreach in Syria.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2553864/British-fighter-Syria-blows-suicide-attack-Aleppo-prison.html

    Not “British” though.

    The UK harbours some of the most dangerous Islamic radicals on the planet and is a global hub of terrorism. That is where we should be fighting it, not killing peasants who have no control or awareness of the wider world in other countries. The home front burns while America wages war in places most Americans have never heard of and could not find on a map.

    Saudi Arabia is the worlds biggest financier of radical Islam, but is mates with the US. While Obama kills people in Mali !

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  7. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    American Jews Like Muslims Twice as Much as They Like Christian Evangelicals

    A poll conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute, published April 3rd, finds American Jews to be very wary of the Christian sects that claim to support Israel and its expansionist policies most vocally.

    “Most liberal Jews view the Christian right as wanting to impose a Christian America on them,” said Marshall Breger, professor at the Catholic University of America’s Columbus School of Law and leading voice on inter-religious relations. “To the extent to which the bulk of Jews are liberal, both politically and culturally, they’ll have negative views of the Christian right.”

    http://my.firedoglake.com/edwardteller/2012/04/16/american-jews-like-muslims-twice-as-much-as-they-like-christian-evangelicals/

    Just goes to show no informed intelligent person likes religious extremists :)

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  8. Fairfacts Media (370 comments) says:

    Russia did a fine job with the Winter Olympics opening ceremony.
    Putin has a tasty mistress who performed a significant role.
    Anyway, is there enough spare flat land in Central Otago for an Olympic city?
    If the farmers do well enough, instead of Sochi 2014, we can have Queenstown 2026.
    Who might our PM be to open it?

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  9. flipper (3,269 comments) says:

    Corrected for “cats paw sending”….

    Oh dear…..

    Last time I checked cricket was an 11 man game.

    Bracewell was # 12, which for the uinitiated means he could act only AS A SUBSTITUTE fielder if required.

    Ryder is not in the playing 11 or 12.

    So the new rule is that even wider squad members nit in the playing team are not allowed out at night?

    If that is the rule then they (Hesson et al) should take it and shove it where the monkey stores its nuts.

    Oh…..,,, and MEDIA….. Get stuffed with monkey nuts…. If Ryder had nit been involved it would have never become a “news issue.”

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  10. stephieboy (1,120 comments) says:

    Kea ,America wages war in Syria.??
    And from your quote, ” israel and its” expansionist policies.” ?

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  11. big bruv (12,328 comments) says:

    I really don’t know why NZC is bothering to stick with Ryder. We don’t need the guy.

    Time for him and Bracewell to be given the flick.

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  12. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    stephieboy, Obama’s support of the radical elements is Syria is no secret and he is open about it. He has supported the overthrow of numerous Arab countries. It is msm news.

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  13. flipper (3,269 comments) says:

    Keeping…

    Ever been young?

    Ever been an elite sportsman?

    Ever been disappointed by not making the team playing roster?

    Grow up!

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  14. Colville (1,770 comments) says:

    KS.
    The real story is not that Ryder was out having a beer, it is the Bracewell broke his foot in mysterious circumstances. So he is out of cricket again. Like when he stood on broken glass after a party and had a few months off.
    Plenty of bowlers that actually want to play to replace him with.

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  15. Keeping Stock (9,788 comments) says:

    @ flipper – ever been given a final warning? Ryder and Bracewell had been omitted from the playing eleven, sure. But if someone had woken up crook, or if Taylor’s wife had suddenly gone into labour, either or both could have been called on to play. They have let their teammates down badly.

    Yes; I did stupid things when I was young, many years ago. But I wasn’t a professional sportsman being paid big money to be ready to play if needed, which both Ryder and Bracewell are. Both have form, and NZC could have cut either loose several times in the past. And what happened to cause Bracewell’s broken foot, which he didn’t have at final practice on Wednesday?

    This is stupid, irresponsible behaviour, and, having stuck up for Ryder over the years, I am now over him.

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  16. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    Can anyone assist with why I’m getting deleted emails from 2 years ago turning up in my inbox on my Xtra Account? Thanking you in anticipation

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  17. igm (854 comments) says:

    Keeping: You display the traits of an envious left-winger who has never excelled at anything and lives in awe of successful young men such as Ryder. Maybe you are a Fairfax journo, they like puting it into anyone who exudes success.

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  18. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    flipper

    Its not about KS growing up. Ryder’s an alcoholic, there’s lots of us about so he’s nothing special there but he has to decide what he wants , drinking or cricket and I know the drinking will always be more attractive to him until there comes a time but by then it will be too late for his cricket

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  19. Manolo (12,618 comments) says:

    The Messiah’s ambassadorships for sale: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2553682/Obama-nominee-ambassador-Argentina-1-million-campaign-cash-bundler-says-hes-NEVER-Argentina.html

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  20. stephieboy (1,120 comments) says:

    Kea, Obama’s support for the radical elements in Syria’s opposition.?
    Evidence please.?
    Manolo , is been the bane of the American appointtees for ambassadorships to appoint political ones, both Democrats and Republicans.

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  21. Pete George (21,804 comments) says:

    Gas exploration off the Otago coast faces a stern challenge.

    David killed Goliath, and the Oil Free Otago flotilla set to sail tonight can stop the Anadarko drill ship, the Rev Peter Matheson says.

    Mr Matheson said he would be aboard the lead flotilla yacht SV Tiama when it left Dunedin tonight to confront the Anadarko drill ship Noble Bob Douglas at the drill site 65km from Taiaroa Head.

    Although confronting the drill ship of an oil giant on a small yacht was as ridiculous as David fighting Goliath, the outcome could be similar, Mr Matheson said.

    ”Anyone remember who won?”A similar fight was won by anti-nuclear protesters in the 1980s, he said.

    http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/290877/david-and-goliath-quest

    A slingshot from 500 metres might be a bit ambitious.

    Also set to board SV Tiama is Bob Lloyd, associate professor and director of energy studies at the University of Otago physics department. Prof Lloyd said he would ask the drill ship crew, via radio on the protest yacht, to halt its New Zealand drilling operations.

    He would ask they stop their search and focus on discovering renewable energy, such as solar panels and wind turbines.

    I thought solar panels and wind turbines had already been discovered. What doesn’t seem to have been discovered yet is how to make solar and wind energy cost effective enough to supercede fossil fuel, along with all the electric powered transport and infrastructure.

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  22. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    igm

    Ryder is not successful , he’s has by no means reached his potential and never will as a cricketer while he continues to drink. I hope to see you at the park today having spent your $45 , I have and will be again and would have been pissed off on Thursday if Ryder had turned up to bat crook.

    Its not about envy its about him being a paid employee and not fulfilling the conditions of his employment. Same if you are a driver or a lawyer or whatever

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  23. duggledog (1,105 comments) says:

    Here’s an idea for the Tino Rangatiratanga devotees:

    Identify yourselves as Maori, and be issued your own Maori passport.

    Set up a whole different government within New Zealand for Maori, paid for by non Maori as a start up, whereby all those who identify as Maori have their own hospitals, pension scheme, welfare state, currency, education system, TV & radio channels, everything*. Some already exist so we’re on the way already.

    Then every dollar Maori earn for themselves can be used for their self determination. BUT no money from the non Maori taxpayer can be transferred across to those who have identified themselves as Maori, because they are now truly separate citizens. They can sort out their inter-tribal squabbles using Maori lawyers with Maori money. The rest of us could then sit back and watch as they destroyed themselves

    *Does not include prisons!

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  24. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    Keeping Stock, cricket is a game. It is nothing more. They do not “represent New Zealand”. It is a bunch of guys playing a silly game. The drinking habits of the players is their business. If you removed all the boozers and druggies from public life we would all be poorer for it. Many famous talented people had raging addictions but still contributed enormously to the wider world.

    I suggest your opposition to this man is simply about you wanting to impose your view on others.

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  25. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    stephieboy, I have previously provided you with evidence. You either ignore it, misrepresent my position or attack the source. And you lie.

    How about providing evidence for god ? Until you do that all your religious arguments fail. You are simply a primitive superstitious frightened little savage unable to cope with the world.

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  26. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    ” Same if you are a driver or a lawyer or whatever”

    No Polly it is not the same. Those are jobs. Cricket is a GAME.

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  27. Pete George (21,804 comments) says:

    The drinking habits of the players is their business.

    Not when they are under contract (agreed to by both parties) that stipulates limits on drinking. Just like the drinking habits of employees is the business of their employers if it can adversely affect their work performance and safety.

    I suggest your opposition to this man is simply about you wanting to impose your view on others.

    That’s absurd. Nothing is imposed. People share their opinions here because, ah, that’s a major part of blog use.

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  28. stigie (618 comments) says:

    I have always been a huge fan of Ryder, but not now. There are other good players to replace him.

    After this incident, NZC have to let him go. They dont call him Cider Ryder for nothing !!~

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  29. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    Kea

    you have turned into nothing but an attention seeking troll, sad , ill informed and verging on totally pathetic.

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  30. stephieboy (1,120 comments) says:

    Kea you make numerous pontifications on Middle Eastern affairs including the USA’s alleged support for the Radical elements in the Syria opposition.
    You have not provided any evidence at all.
    Providing evidence for God.?
    Totally irrelevant.Just stick to exposing your ignoramus knowledge of the ME.

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  31. OneTrack (1,958 comments) says:

    “and no way should the Commerce Commission be a party to this.”

    Um, you mean the Commerce Commision, who in their last outing virtually trashed Chorus as a company, putting in doubt both the copper and fibre infrastructure? That Commerce Commision? Of course they will do the “right” thing. They are public servants, and they know what to do. They are here to help.

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  32. stigie (618 comments) says:

    So what you are saying Kea is it ok to get tanked up on piss the night before

    and go out and play cricket the next day in front of the NZ public because its just a game ?

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  33. flipper (3,269 comments) says:

    I say this to those that persist in knifing Ryder….

    1. If he is an “alcoholic”, as is claimed (definitions vary according to body type, metabolism, religious belief etc., etc), and he harms no one but himself that, in my view, is his affair. Period. (PS no social/ health cost bullshit please)

    2. If every perceivable “bad habit” were to be eliminated from those participating in sport, at whatever level, there would be no participation and nothing to watch. Once it was smoking…. and the lovely, but economic simpleton/naif, Bert Sutcliffe prostituting himself for Rothmans because we as a nation were too self centred to reward him for efforts which made most every New Zealander proud. (But that was only sport… and it was his career choice , I have heard bastards argue)/. Today there is gambling….on horses, a sure fire way to economic ruin. Even cricket and rugby commentators in 2014 promote gallops AND trots. Remember Nelson and the WIs????

    3. Ryder and Bracewell do NOT represent me….or you. I had no part in choosing (or not) them, and I suspect you few are no different.

    4. The talk of role models is bullshit spoken by those that never achieve anything beyond back yard rugger or cricket. Successful sportsmen and women strive for excellence in sport. Role modelling is best left to the holier than thou types here….and in the MSM.

    So Keeping et al…..may be “grow up” is the wrong plea. Bugger off …. Get lost would be more appropriate.

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  34. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    PG, ["Not when they are under contract (agreed to by both parties)"] Other peoples employment contracts are not public business unless it is a public company.

    Polly, Fuck you. If you had any reasoned argument you would present it instead of crying trollllllll like a halfwit. If you don’t like your prejudices being challenged then why put them on display ?

    stephieboy, you are the guy you claimed Israel and Jews have no influence on US foreign policy ! You accused me of sourcing info from Stormfront and conspiracy sites. When I gave you links from msm in both the US and Israel, you disappeared and returned the next day with the same lie. Your ignorance is breathtaking and so are your lies. AIPAC is a well known, well established, powerful , organised, well funded high profile organisation in the US. But you denied it even existed. !

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  35. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    stigie (495 comments) says:
    February 8th, 2014 at 9:16 am
    So what you are saying Kea is it ok to get tanked up on piss the night before

    and go out and play cricket the next day in front of the NZ public because its just a game ?

    Yes.

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  36. stigie (618 comments) says:

    Good speech Flipper, but way off the track ole chap !~

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  37. OneTrack (1,958 comments) says:

    “What doesn’t seem to have been discovered yet is how to make solar and wind energy cost effective ”

    Oh, that’s been discovered all right. Basically you put a raft of taxes on to all other activity – ETS, Carbon, income tax, CGT, etc., and then you redirect that money to to companies named things like “Solyndra”, etc. A useful side affect is productive activity is reduced so you dont have to buy so many wind turbines from China. You still have to replace them in twenty years of course, but, if you are lucky, that is when the right is back in power, trying to pick up the pieces of the clustf**k.

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  38. WineOh (428 comments) says:

    On a completely different topic, I don’t understand why the media has such an obsession with with Shapelle Corby. Thousands of drug mules are caught and imprisoned in asian nations every year. What makes her so different? She was clearly guilty as sin, was it because she had pretty blue eyes and weeped on cue? Why should she be treated more leniently than others, because she is Australian? Because she got distressed by being in an Indonesian prison?

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  39. Reid (15,526 comments) says:

    So get this for hypocrisy. The US’ freshly minted ‘top diplomat for Europe’ says in a phone conversation to the US Ambassador to Kiev: “F… the EU” over its response to Ukraine (which BTW is yet another George Soros special which everyone in the diplomatic and intelligence communities know, the only ones who don’t are the useful idiots amongst the public who hallucinate these things just spring organically out of the grassroots).

    Of course, duh, the Russians are monitoring the conversation, as everyone with the capability is doing these days, and publishes the comment on YouTube. Bwahahahahahahaha.

    Then she turns around and says: “Certainly we think this is a new low in Russian tradecraft.”

    WTF did she think the Russians would do, given the US is trying to f.. it over in its own backyard? How would the US react to say, a ‘grassroots’ revolution in Mexico? This is exactly what anyone who knows how Russians think could have predicted they would do. If anyone’s displaying a new low in tradecraft, it’s Nuland, for being so profoundly stupid as to make the comment over what effectively is an open mic and then expressing surprise over the inevitable fallout.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11198272

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  40. igm (854 comments) says:

    See Lecher Len’s lover wants her old job back . . . I suppose she can be funded with the pathetic $40,000 Lech is paying towards his extended tour of debauchery. Come on Auckland, wake up, not only is he defrauding ratepayers, he is laughing in your faces, backed by media, Labour councillors, and non-ratepayers.

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  41. stephieboy (1,120 comments) says:

    One day at a time kea old fruit.
    Just provide the link and source for your allegation re US support for Radical elements in the Syria opposition.
    You never produced any conclusive evidence that the US is beholden and in the pay of Te Aviv.That was the point I was making.
    BTW.Do you agree with Pat Condell that Israel has a right to exist for the umpteenth tine.?
    Yes or No.?
    My reference to Stormfront etc was merely a query about your sources.
    Fact.

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  42. Colville (1,770 comments) says:

    Good to see the forecast for Auckland is fine for next 3 days.
    India all out by mid arvo then onwards to victory!

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  43. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    stephieboy (496 comments) says:
    February 8th, 2014 at 8:48 am
    Kea, Obama’s support for the radical elements in Syria’s opposition.?
    Evidence please.?
    Manolo , is been the bane of the American appointtees for ambassadorships to appoint political ones, both Democrats and Republicans.

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    President Obama is unlikely to take any military action against Syria that will actually make a difference, but his administration is actively backing the radical Muslim Brotherhood and al-Qaida elements of the rebellion while leaving the Free Syrian Army high and dry, warns retired U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely.
    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/general-obamas-backing-wrong-syrian-rebels/#u7VC2QiY6Rgbthzd.99

    Obama to move forward with plan to arm Syrian rebels

    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/23/politics/us-syrian-rebels/

    Obama Authorizes Sending Weapons To Syrian Rebels
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/13/obama-syrian-rebels_n_3438625.html

    Obama plans rebel aid with Syria strikes, senators say

    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/02/world/meast/syria-civil-war/

    Now lets see who the Trooooollllllllllll is …

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  44. Scott Chris (5,675 comments) says:

    Oh goody. The toxic birdbrained troll is off her meds again. To summarise her position:

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  45. Nookin (2,887 comments) says:

    I suspect that Flipper is, deep down, a closet Labour/Green’s member. He is an exponent of taking whatever money, accommodation, honours and opportunities might be offered (in this case by NZC), making promises of best efforts, best behaviour et cetera in return for such rewards and then taking the view that a contract is a one-way street and that one’s promises are best ignored.

    What really convinces me of his affinity to the green philosophy is his total intolerance of any view other than his own and that those who may dare to disagree with him should be dismissed from the debate – usually in abusive fashion.

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  46. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    stephieboy, I tire of teaching you. Have a grown up show you how to use google or ask your sky fairy to help.

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  47. Andrei (2,429 comments) says:

    Is there any doubt that the USA is being run by total bozos, that doubt can be dispelled for once and for all - Angela Merkel: Victoria Nuland’s remarks on EU are unacceptable

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  48. flipper (3,269 comments) says:

    Nookin…

    Who gives a shit what a fool like you thinks?
    Those that know me are rolling in uncontrollable mirth at your silly evaluation.

    Disagreement is one thing. But when commenting seriously, one should have knowledge, real knowledge. It helps.

    It seems to me that you very much in the category of “an over-educated beltway idiot”.

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  49. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    Scott Chris , good to see you using all your available brain power.

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  50. Sofia (779 comments) says:

    NZ scientists take on sugar
    A group of New Zealand scientists is gearing up to emulate the success of anti-tobacco campaigners by getting rid of sugar-flavoured soft drinks by 2025.

    For Dr Gerhard Sundborn, the fight against sugary soft drinks springs from their effects on his extended family, as well as being part of his job as a public health advocate and academic.
    “My mother is from Tonga. I’m part Tongan.
    “Our community and my family members have drunk a lot of soft drink. My mother has diabetes.”
    Dr Sundborn has three children, aged 5, 3 and 2. Are sugar-sweetened drinks found in the Sundborn home?
    “Absolutely not. If we get fizzy drink it will be diet [containing artificial sweetener].
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11198199

    Sugar added drinks are bad, while diet is good?
    Many online international articles in fact claim diet sweeteners can be 100 times sweeter than sugar and spike blood sugar levels the same way, stimulating insulin release the same way, and causing any other food calories in the system at the time to be stored in fat cells, more often than not around the waist.

    All a little like global warming and “climate change”, it is agreed there is a problem, but not all the mechanisms and feed-back systems are totally understood.
    So we have a fucking dopey Emissions Trading Scheme and seem generally confident that is enough.
    Similarly we may tax the shit out of sugary drinks, and drink diet alternatives as Dr Sundborn’s children do, and then wonder what the fuck went wrong.

    Where does Peter Gluckman, KNZM, FRS, FMedSci, FRSNZ, New Zealand scientist and first Chief Science Advisor to John Key stand on this?

    PS: And will the TPP allow Coca Cola to sue for loss of market share due to local legislative changes?

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  51. freemark (324 comments) says:

    Why don’t we just stop buying Aussie made Holdens & Fords for a few weeks….
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11198193

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  52. stephieboy (1,120 comments) says:

    Sorry kea but you need to understand that people like you need to get out of their stunted egocentric world view and understand the simple fact that many simply do not agree with you. It’s as simple as that . if you cant lump it then go and troll on forums like WND that you seemmto ove linking to.
    Now what and who is World Daily News.?First it’s run by the extremely right wing Christian Fundementalist Joesph Farrah.Next it’s regarded as to the right of Fox news .Next it has a strong dislike and distaste for Obama.Note also and typically for WND .it’s failed to verify and cross check the allegation from the retired Major Gen.

    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/WND

    Your link to WND must be rich in irony for a village atheist like you.Repeat , Joesph Farah an extreme ultra conservative Christian Fundementalist.to the right of Fox news.

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  53. Sofia (779 comments) says:

    Cunliffe on being tough with Australia
    Thought he was on to a win win situation
    If Key was successful in changing anything, Cunliffe could say I pushed him to it
    If Key wasn’t successful, Cunliffe can say he failed, as I indicated he would.

    Cunliffe’s Achilles heel – We haven’t forgotten it was bloody Helen Clark who fucked the arrangement up to start with and Cunliffe in the Labour Government not long after, had quite a bit of time to comment then.

    Stick to waka rescuing photo opportunities, David, although as Paul Henry observed, Shane Jones is better at pulling things than you.

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  54. Nookin (2,887 comments) says:

    Gee Flipper. Have you tried Anasol. I am told it works wonders. I see it took all of 9 minutes to assess the reaction of all your mates. That didn’t take long. Tell me, were there two or three of them?

    Did you ever look up the meaning of the word “bigotted” when we last crossed swords?

    To go back to the issue, and I can imagine that you were so blinded by the spittle of your outburst as not to be able to appreciate what I was saying, Ryder and Bracewell are being paid by New Zealand Cricket. They have been given the opportunity of performing on the world stage and they are given the opportunity of earning substantial amounts of money. New Zealand Cricket is entitled to something in return. If all its players behave like at the New Zealand Cricket will be demoted to a second tier Cricket playing nation. So New Zealand Cricket extracts promises from its players. Those promises include abiding by the code of conduct.

    It does not matter whether you regard that code of conduct as unreasonable or not. I doubt very much whether New Zealand Cricket consulted you. You do not get a say because you are not paying the money. The players promised to comply and, in the case of these two, they have repeatedly broken those promises. New Zealand Cricket is quite entitled to say “enough”. Keeping Stock is also quite entitled to say that he has had enough. No one is in the slightest bit interested in your bluster and fluster and if you want to get down to personal abuse then you very much take the risk of being stereotyped with those who make personal abuse, and lack of accountability a specialty.

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  55. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    understand the simple fact that many simply do not agree with you. It’s as simple as that . if you cant lump it then go and troll on forums like WND that you seemmto ove linking to.

    Facts are not a popularity contest. As expected you singled out one source and ignored the others. I have previously sent you sources from main stream Jewish news sources, only to have you vanish… then return with the same crap. CNN is rabidly pro Obama, but again, no mention of that source. You seem to think the propaganda of those who say things that fit your prejudice are more credible. What a surprise.

    And I can “lump it” just fine thanks :) It is not me who sits there like a petulant narcissistic child screaming trollllllllll when confronted with things I don’t want to believe.

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  56. stephieboy (1,120 comments) says:

    I actually have sympathy for the US EU ambassador Victoria Nuland ,her apparent indescetion. notwithstanding
    Now who just does the US support.?
    The EU oriented Ukraine.?
    Or the non orientated EU Russia.?
    Typically for the US its a case of damned if you do and damned if don’t..
    No doubt kea’s Christian Fundementalist Joesph Farrah and WND will swoop onto this.

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  57. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    THE JERUSALEM POST

    US Congress secretly approves weapons flow to ‘moderate’ Syrian rebels

    Deliveries, have been funded by Congress in votes behind closed doors, say US and Europeans security officials.

    http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/US-Congress-secretly-approves-weapons-flow-to-moderate-Syrian-rebels-339558

    HAREETZ

    U.S. President Barack Obama is preparing to arm the Syrian rebels and step up American efforts to bring down President Bashar Assad’s regime, senior administration officials told the Washington Post on Tuesday.

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/obama-preparing-to-arm-syrian-rebels-officials-say.premium-1.518597

    [Now it is time for stephiboy to provide some "sources", just in case someone accuses him of being a trooooolllllll]

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  58. calendar girl (1,108 comments) says:

    Sofia@9:46 – The old, convenient obsession with sugar in soft drinks, enabling “big business” to be attacked again and new, distortional taxes to be introduced. Of course sugary soft drinks are a problem, but by no means the only one – probably not even the major one.

    If public health interests are serious about excessive sugar consumption (and they should be), they would be educating the world – including NZ – about the elevation of blood sugar levels though over-consumption of carbohydrate-based food like potatoes, rice, pasta, pizza and bread. This happens daily with people who never consume a soft drink.

    With modern-day low-exercise lifestyles, the volume of that kind of food that we eat makes a huge contribution to obesity here and in other “advanced” countries. Yet most people in this country are totally ignorant on the subject, and our health authorities remain largely silent on it.

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  59. stigie (618 comments) says:

    Ya cant argue about religion and cricket on here at the same time, it just doesnt go down that well !~

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  60. flipper (3,269 comments) says:

    Nookin…

    You are a dimwit.
    You have no idea what positions I hold … or have held. Nor what influence, AWAY FROM KIWIBLOG (not that KB has much influence on sport at any level) that I may or may not exercise.

    Lest you jump to a conclusion, I am simply saying that you are talking through your backside… as you do on most every matter….. like me to name a few on which you have been wrong????? You really are the type that believes their “position” in the beltway gives them power. Those Law Lords and the International Commission of Jurists, must be quaking when studying your batting average on such matters Nookin. Your average is no better on this.

    When the number of players in cricket exceed 11, your view would be worth considering.
    Whatever the contractual terms are, they are a matter for Ryder/Bracewell and NZC – not you or I….or the holier than thou brigade here.

    Claiming a breech of the contract/code (there is /has been no suggestion of unruly or inappropriate behaviour of any kind) when NOT in the playing roster is far fetched.

    But clearly not for beltway control freaks such as you.

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  61. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

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  62. stephieboy (1,120 comments) says:

    Kea I have examind your links including the above and nowhere does it say or demonstrate the US is funding and sending arms to the particular radical Taliban and al Queada elements in the Syrian opposition.Ignorant as you are about the Syrian opposition and who they repsent . They in fact contain widely disparate, ideologically different and opposing elements with a string moderate element.It also helps explain why they are not as effective militarily as they could be with
    this disunity in ideas and beliefs,

    The facts are the US has limited the kind of aid it does provide.It has e.g refused to provide surface to surface air miissles least they fall into the hands of radical elements.
    The US response has in fact been measured and conservative fulling far short of an imminent invasion and full occupation that the you have ranted and grunted on about.
    Again the evidence and documented proof that the US ( and Israel for that matter) are deliberately targeting military aid to Radical Jihaddist elements like the Taliban and Ak Queada in Syria.?

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  63. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    stephieboy,

    How about you cut the crap and just say what you really think ?. It is the pretending that annoys me. If you want to go with what your cult says then fine. Just don’t pretend it is a reasoned position. You decide what you want to believe then work backwards looking for evidence.

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  64. Keeping Stock (9,788 comments) says:

    The worst thing about the Ryder/bracewell incident is that it is now the story instead of a potentially match-winning double century from Brendon McCullum.

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  65. Elaycee (4,066 comments) says:

    @Nookin: When someone resorts to boorish comment, innuendo, insults etc, it’s a sure sign they’ve totally lost the debate.

    Especially when they attempt to smother further discussion by telling other commenters to ‘Go Away’, ‘Bugger off’, ‘Get Lost’ or at times ‘F*** off’ – even reverting at times to sentences of bold font or even CAPS to try and make a point.

    It’s as if their view is somehow the ‘only’ one and no-one else can voice an opinion.

    And that’s a common trait of a control freak. 8O

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  66. Colville (1,770 comments) says:

    Nookin.

    Did you ever look up the meaning of the word “bigotted” when we last crossed swords?

    I didnt know you and flipper were that close !

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=crossing%20swords

    :D

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  67. Nookin (2,887 comments) says:

    Flipper.

    We all know that you are a very important man and that you know a lot of very important people because you are always telling us how important you are and how many important people you mix with. I seem to remember you saying that you are/were on some National Party electorate committee. I hope you don’t boast about that. Your approach to reasoned discussion and consideration of issues of importance to the common man (non-entities — in your mind — like me) is chilling. Labour and the Greens are making a huge thing about the arrogance of the right. Please don’t give them any more fuel!

    Perhaps you can define “beltway” for me. Do you mean the press gallery (which gleefully adopted the name) or do you give the term its US connotation? Either way, you are shooting blanks. I live in a quiet little SI town far away from politics, news media etc. I have no connection with the beltway.

    Your puerile attempt to bring Bain into this typifies your faux-bravado. I will take you up on your challenge about the Law Lords and the International Commission of Jurists, though. (Have they been consulted by Ryder and Bracewell or is this just some attempt by you to name-drop as a means of bolstering your ego?) Please refer me to any comment that I have made that’s takes issue with anything that they have said on any specific issue. Don’t make it up, Flipper. Give me the link.

    Cricket is not an eleven man game Flipper. While only eleven take the field there is always a wider squad just in case. Ryder is there because of the very real possibility that Taylor might have had to pull out with notice. Bracewell is there in case of injury. There has been any number of instances where players have been injured in warm-up sessions or who have become ill overnight. It is a common occurrence.

    As for my “holier than thou” view on Ryder — I pointed out that NZC was within its rights to say enough based on the terms of its contract with the players concerned. I also said that KS was entitled to make his own observations. That is as far as I went. You, on the other hand, strongly disagree with the validity of their view and their rights — which I support — to express them. Who is “holier than thou”?

    By the way, have you read the code of conduct?

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  68. Nookin (2,887 comments) says:

    Colville

    Flipper moves in much more austere and elevated circles than me and we could never get so close. Besides, he displays all the attributes of someone with little dick syndrome.

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  69. Nookin (2,887 comments) says:

    KS

    Hear, hear.
    As you know, I have not been one of McCullum’s closest fans but he proved his worth this time.

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  70. grumpyoldhori (2,410 comments) says:

    Interesting someone ranting that we have batsmen with a better test average than Ryder ready to take his place who are not playing in this game.
    Ryder has a test average of over forty, I cannot think of one player who is not playing in the test who has an average close to that.

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  71. Colville (1,770 comments) says:

    2 out this morning?

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  72. Colville (1,770 comments) says:

    Is it just me or is there a lurker (or two?) who is neg rating every comment?

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  73. Nookin (2,887 comments) says:

    Colville
    I have this sense of a Jeckyll/Hyde character lurking in a dark room getting his rocks off with downticks and a voodoo doll with pins. Someone has had their ego twisted out of joint. Probably ripping wings off flies at the same time.

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  74. Fletch (5,719 comments) says:

    As far as the U.S and Syria, I remember that John McCain (a Republican) went over there and met with the Syrian rebels and supports them.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/27/john-mccain-syria_n_3342897.html

    He supports Obama’s policies in this.
    Also, McCain met with a delegation of Syrian clergy in Washington, there to plead their case for the Christians being slaughtered. McCain didn’t want to hear it, threw a tantrum and stormed out of a meeting, He was so rude that senator Lindsey Graham had to apologize for him.

    Hell-bent on arming opposition forces in Syria—despite strong evidence that they’re run by Islamic terrorists—John McCain displayed behavior unbecoming of a United States Senator during a recent meeting with Syrian Christian leaders touring Capitol Hill.

    The delegation of Syrian clergy came to Washington to raise awareness among lawmakers of the growing crisis among the region’s minority Christian community. Christians make up about 10% of the Syrian population and they are being targeted and ruthlessly murdered by radical elements of the rebel forces, according to the visiting church officials. They say the media and human rights groups in the west have been largely silent on the ordeal of the Christians in Syria.

    A number of churches have been destroyed or burned, children were killed when rebels fired mortar rockets at an Armenian Christian school in Damascus and countless others have been abducted by Islamic fighters, the Syrian delegation reveals in a statement published by the research group, Westminster Institute, that brought them to Washington. Eleven nuns have also been abducted and are still in captivity and two bishops are still missing after getting kidnapped during a humanitarian mission.

    But Senator McCain, an Arizona Republican, evidently doesn’t want to hear negative stories about the rebels he’s working to arm. So he stormed out of a closed-door meeting with the Syrian clergy officials last week. Held in the Senate Arms Services Committee meeting room, the reunion also included senators Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island, Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut and Joe Manchin of West Virginia. Graham is a Republican and the rest are Democrats.

    McCain marched into the committee room yelling, according to a high-level source that attended the meeting, and quickly stormed out. “He was incredibly rude,” the source told Judicial Watch “because he didn’t think the Syrian church leaders should even be allowed in the room.” Following the shameful tantrum McCain reentered the room and sat briefly but refused to make eye contact with the participants, instead ignoring them by looking down at what appeared to be random papers.

    The outburst was so embarrassing that Senator Graham, also an advocate of U.S. military intervention in Syria, apologized for McCain’s disturbing outburst. “Graham actually apologized to the group for McCain’s behavior,” according to the source, who sat through the entire meeting. “It was truly unbelievable.”

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/02/gop-sen-apologizes-for-mccain-tantrum-at-syrian-christian-leader-meeting/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

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  75. Fletch (5,719 comments) says:

    Attempted hijacking of a plane by a Ukraniun man, who wanted the flight diverted to Sochi.

    A UKRAINIAN man is in custody after yelling “Bomb!” and demanding a passenger jet be diverted to Sochi, where the Opening Ceremony was underway.

    The Pegasus Airlines flight landed at an Istanbul airport after the pilot sent a hijacking signal.

    The passenger stood up and shouted “Bomb!” and tried to enter the cockpit, Turkey’s Transport Ministry official Habib Soluk told NTV.

    Turkish media reported that a man brandishing a detonator tried to gain access to the cockpit of the aircraft operated by Turkey’s Pegasus Airlines while it was in the air.

    http://www.news.com.au/sport/ukrainian-man-in-custody-after-yelling-bomb-and-demanding-the-flight-divert-to-sochi/story-fnl6khi7-1226821169962

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  76. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    It is incredible that after Stalin & Hitler people exist in the Ukraine who want to give socialism one last try !

    Especially given the failure of the EU complete with rioting populations, bankruptcy, austerity, and removal of sovereign democratic rights.

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  77. cha (3,529 comments) says:

    Just a little bit gay.

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  78. Manolo (12,618 comments) says:

    Will KB’s resident feminist agree with this control-freak and paranoid woman?
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11198182

    Passengers on Air New Zealand flights to the Cook Islands and elsewhere will be urged to watch a video featuring cavorting swimsuit models.

    The airline told the Weekend Herald the video it had produced with American magazine Sports Illustrated will convey all the important safety messages it is required to provide under aviation regulations.

    Feminist commentator Deborah Russell says she is disappointed the national flag carrier should have bought into the magazine’s business of objectifying women.

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  79. Nostalgia-NZ (4,685 comments) says:

    KS, the behaviour of Ryder and Bracewell, won’t detract from this test. If the reports are true the only people they’ve let down are themselves, again. Giving it too much oxygen is pointless and gives them more credit than they deserve for letting their teammates down.

    Meanwhile, the drama continues at Eden Park with a real test of the character of the Kiwi batsmen all on again.

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  80. OneTrack (1,958 comments) says:

    It is incredible that after Stalin & Hitler people exist in New Zealand who want to give socialism one last try ! It will work this time. Yeah, right.

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  81. dirty harry (235 comments) says:

    bet he gets bail a second time….send the prick back to the shithole from where he came..

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9700330/Accused-street-attacker-arrested-again

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  82. noskire (797 comments) says:

    Why not enforce the follow-on Brendon, you numpty!

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  83. Nookin (2,887 comments) says:

    Noskire

    Probably in case we had a target in excess of 100!

    I think he made the right choice esp if the wicket starts taking spin.

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  84. noskire (797 comments) says:

    Forcing India to bat again and taking a couple of wickets before lunch would have really put the sword to them.

    Still, another 150-200 runs on the board with two days to bowl them out was probably a good plan.

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  85. srylands (301 comments) says:

    Christ, Lynne Prentice never fails to deliver examples of the closed mind. I mean by all means root for your team, but surely it has limits.

    “A glorious waste of money for the titillation of perverts”

    “Len Brown was strong-armed into paying $40,000 for the audit which turned up nothing much except that his wife brought a lot of hotel nights. Questions remain about who was responsible for the waste caused by the lack of scoping of the external audit. Looks like dirty politics at the ratepayers expense.”

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  86. wikiriwhis business (3,283 comments) says:

    Fewer prisoners escaping

    Along with rehabilitation programmes, a $27.8 million expansion of audio-visual links to 14 district courts and nine prisons had resulted in fewer prisoners having to leave their secure facility to make court appearances, removing any threat of escape from an escort.

    An extra $81.3m was being invested in upgrading five prisons, further improving security, as well as providing better facilities for prisoner rehabilitation and training, she said.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/9694201/Fewer-prisoners-escaping

    Prison conditions have been improved. Thought I’d ruin the day for all the fascists on here today

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  87. wikiriwhis business (3,283 comments) says:

    ‘It is incredible that after Stalin & Hitler people exist in New Zealand who want to give socialism one last try ! It will work this time.’

    More like National Socialism from the National Socialist Party

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  88. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    wikiriwhis business, they are not escaping because they are not letting them out ! Not because it is nice in there. I think the fascists will be ok with that my friend :)

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  89. Andrei (2,429 comments) says:

    I don’t know why the Olympic games cannot just be about sport Cha

    Tell me why “gays” can’t just get on with their lives and not have to always make everything be about them?

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  90. wikiriwhis business (3,283 comments) says:

    Kea

    I was actually meaning the amount of funding updating prison conditions which won’t be popular on this site lol

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  91. wikiriwhis business (3,283 comments) says:

    Andrei

    Absolutely. Awesum bud.

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  92. Reid (15,526 comments) says:

    Tell me why “gays” can’t just get on with their lives and not have to always make everything be about them?

    It’s not gays who do it Andrei, it’s the social engineers who play the gays, the media, the politicians and the useful idiots a.k.a the general public; like violins.

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  93. dirty harry (235 comments) says:

    gawd I hate cricket…Id rather go out for dinner with scott chris than sit through an innings of the stupid game

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  94. igm (854 comments) says:

    The Labour editor of “Manawatu Standard” is at it again, this time regarding Kiwis in Aus. This evil product of the left should not be in a position of influence in a rat hole, least of all a newspaper. To top that off, he is again supporting shoplifting. The editor, his paper, and his Labour Party masters, are disgraces to society.

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  95. kowtow (6,690 comments) says:

    wineoh

    Scapelle Corby and the media.

    I think it was last nights’ TV1 news led with Corby “news” (she’s not evn an Aotearoan!) followed by the Coro bonkers acquital.

    3rd item was our PM meeting Tony Abbott .

    This from the state owned national broadcster .They should be ashamed of themselves.

    In some ways it’s a pity it’s not run on North Korean lines because the fucken editorial staff would have been fed to the dogs by now.

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  96. Lucia Maria (1,983 comments) says:

    Kea,

    Just go to JihadWatch if you need help with finding articles that the US is funding and helping insurgents in Syria. Here’s the latest: U.S. training Free Syrian Army in Jordan — a group that violently targets Christians

    Lots more articles like that if you don’t have an ideological objection against JihadWatch for any reason. FrontPage is another one.

    The sad fact is that the ruthless Assad dictatorship has a better record than the United States or its Sunni allies of protecting religious minorities in the Middle East. What Syrian Christian, Alawite or Druze in their right mind would trade the Assad’s time-tested protection for the smooth words of a John Kerry, especially when they can see Sunni supremacist Saudis, Qataris, Turks and a motley array of jihadis over his shoulder?

    Only thing is, both these websites do not believe in the slightest, that Israel is behind what the US is doing.

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  97. big bruv (12,328 comments) says:

    dirty harry

    “gawd I hate cricket”

    Let me guess, are you a Rugby Fan or a League fan then?

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  98. lilman (659 comments) says:

    Why ,oh why didnt he take the follow on?

    Bad decision,very bad decision.

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  99. MT_Tinman (2,790 comments) says:

    dirty harry (67 comments) says:
    February 8th, 2014 at 2:53 pm
    gawd I hate cricket

    No worries. I love it enough for both of us :-)

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  100. dirty harry (235 comments) says:

    Rugby thanks Bruv…I follow your favourite team..Canterbury Crusaders.

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  101. big bruv (12,328 comments) says:

    dirty harry

    As I thought, you have no class at all.

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  102. stephieboy (1,120 comments) says:

    Lucia Maria , a brief background to Robert Spencer author and sponsor of Jihad watch.He’s rather like Joesph Farrah of WND .Ultra conservative and virulently antI Islamic and decidedly pro Israel.No surprises but he is also anit Obama and will dig up shit no matter how false and hurl it the President’s way.,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Spencer_(author)

    Kea has made some interesting friends today, including Farrah and it seems now Spencer.

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  103. Manolo (12,618 comments) says:

    …and virulently ant Islamic and decidedly pro Israel.

    Nothing wrong with that! :D

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  104. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    Lucy, many Jewish observers are the first to admit that many of these military actions would not have occurred without the lobbying of AIPAC and others. It is interesting to note however that Jewish folk polled often do not support these actions. There is a difference between what “Jews” want and what the lobby groups want. Just the same as the disconnect between American people and her leaders. AIPAC is dominated by Zionists who do not represent Jews generally.

    Right now they want Syria in as big a mess as possible as a prelude to a strike on Iran. The last thing they need is a strong cohesive Syria right next door, when Syria enjoys good relations with Iran.

    There are few countries on earth that can justify having nukes as much as Iran. They have been the victims of previous US aggression and are subject to economic warfare now. The US acts in the interest of Israel who has been crying for war with Iran for a long time. Right now the US army is parked up next door killing Muslims. The US is the only country to have used nukes and did so against civilians. Israel also has them. Iran has attacked nobody for centuries. They don’t get on with the Saudis, who are American allies and the people behind 9/11 and the biggest financier of radical Islam. It is a confusing mess, until you wake up and realise the only winner is always Israel.

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  105. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    stephieboy , you once again attack the source (or the messenger) and not the argument. Your sources, on the very rare occasions you give one, are invariably propaganda written by the warmongers. You of course know all this, but do it anyway.

    So why not cut the crap and simply tell us what YOU think ? Stop the pretense of being reasonable and let your religious inspired prejudice come out. At least then we can agree to disagree.

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  106. Keeping Stock (9,788 comments) says:

    @ Nostalgia – you don’t have to tell me anything about today’s NZ batting. I’m at Eden Park watching it!

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  107. dirty harry (235 comments) says:

    BB…you’ll be a blues man…

    How very uncouth..

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  108. big bruv (12,328 comments) says:

    dirty harry.

    No, I am an ABC man.

    Anybody (and I do mean Anybody) but Canterbury.

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  109. Lucia Maria (1,983 comments) says:

    Stephieboy,

    Thanks. Yeah, I know who Robert Spencer is, that’s why I have no hesitation in recommending his website. I’ve been reading it on and off for the last nine years. With his family background and his knowledge and his fearlessness in continuing on JihadWatch despite threats to his life, he’s worth paying attention to, even if you disagree with him.

    The WND guy is a bit too Protestant for me and a bit too “end times” as well, so I stopped reading that site a number of years back, but I am familiar with him as well. They’re generally pretty good with their information and are fearless with putting forward unpopular opinions as well.

    No surprises but he is also anit Obama and will dig up shit no matter how false and hurl it the President’s way.,

    Have you not been paying attention to what Obama’s been doing? He seems to be getting just about everyone, except for his most fervent supports, really, really annoyed.

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  110. publicwatchdog (1,817 comments) says:

    Ok all you Kiwibloggers who purport to be lawyers – what are your views on this one?

    PUBLISHED ON THE NBR:

    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/auckland-mayor-pony-ey-report-sf-151618

    errr… the PROCESS for an investigation into an alleged lack of compliance with the Auckland Council Code of Conduct is CLEARLY set out in s.8 ‘Compliance’.

    The process should have been for the constitution of a “Conduct Review Independent Panel’ by the GOVERNING BODY, from names of suitably qualified persons RECOMMENDED by the CEO.

    Not for the CEO to make up his own process and pick his own people!

    Don’t believe a word I say?

    Try reading it for yourself!

    http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/SiteCollectionDocuments/aboutcouncil/governingbody/codeofconductelectedmembers.pdf

    Penny Bright
    ______________________________________________________________________________________________________

    PS: When I applied for speaking rights to raise the failure of the Ernst and Young ‘Report’ to follow the process set out in s.8 ‘Compliance’ of the above-mentioned Auckland Council ‘Code of Conduct’, I was unlawfully denied, so I just took them……

    ‘Faint heart never won fair go!’ (as it were :)

    Auckland Council Governing Body meeting 30 January 2014, Auckland Town Hall:

    http://www.allaboutauckland.com/video/2821/penny-bright-defies-speaking-rights-order

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  111. big bruv (12,328 comments) says:

    Hey Penny

    Paid your rates yet?

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  112. kowtow (6,690 comments) says:

    ABC?

    Animated By Catholicism.

    ………3,2,1

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  113. Nostalgia-NZ (4,685 comments) says:

    Good on you KS. Last man gone, now the fireworks begin, I hope!

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  114. MH (558 comments) says:

    the krikets playing 11 were probably tired out searching for Ryder and Bracewell, again last night.

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  115. Sofia (779 comments) says:

    big bruv – inquiries seem to indicate the rates are paid.

    Maybe not by Penny Bright, in a sort of John Banks technical truth-balancing act, but paid.
    Ask Penny to post a rates demand on one of her many websites and link it to here to prove otherwise.

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  116. publicwatchdog (1,817 comments) says:

    Here you go Big Bore – the answer to your question can be found here – as I told the Mayor and Councillors in the Auckland Town Hall on Thursday 30 January 2014.

    http://www.allaboutauckland.com/video/2821/penny-bright-defies-speaking-rights-order

    (PS: Remind me what ACTION you have taken lately Big Bore to achieve your goals – apart from continuing to whine at those of us who are actually taking action which cannot be ignored?

    Meant of course in a caring way :)

    Penny Bright

    http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz
    http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com
    http://www.occupyaucklandvsaucklandcouncilappeal.org.nz

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  117. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    Have you not been paying attention to what Obama’s been doing? He seems to be getting just about everyone, except for his most fervent supports, really, really annoyed.

    Lucy,No he only listens to what he wants to hear. Eg: Pat Condell and rationalwiki. Both atheist site who he quotes when they are is anti his un-chosen group, but will dismiss when they do not support his prejudice.

    I want peace in the holy lands. I want the West out of it. That is my bottom line. Do we have any common ground on that or do you think more war is the way ?

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  118. Rowan (1,728 comments) says:

    Pathetic batting from NZ in 3rd innings although given the quality of batting seen so far, it would be unlikely that India can chase over 400, which they will need if they are to pull off a win. Had we enforced the follow on it could well have been India in this position and losing by over an innings, lets hope we can chip out some Indian batsman out before stumps.

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  119. Pete George (21,804 comments) says:

    Awful innings but two out of three still ain’t bad. The game is the Black Caps to win – if they’re up to it.

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  120. publicwatchdog (1,817 comments) says:

    Don’t know where you got that CRAP from (anonymous /gutless) Sofia.

    You see – the difference between you and I is that I rely on FACTS and EVIDENCE to substantiate what I’m saying.

    You might like to try it sometime – for the novelty factor?

    Kind regards,

    Penny Bright

    http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz
    http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com
    http://www.occupyaucklandvsaucklandcouncilappeal.org.nz

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  121. Sofia (779 comments) says:

    Penny – You see – the difference between me and you is that I rely on FACTS and EVIDENCE to substantiate what I’m saying.

    So you will have no trouble then doing as suggested: post a rates demand on one of your many websites and link it to here to prove that you are just not a “technical” fucking liar like John Banks.
    It’s very simple, Penny, but I know you won’t do it. :-)

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  122. Colville (1,770 comments) says:

    Sofia.
    The ONE thing we do know about Penny is that she is a hypocrite and liar.
    So dont hold your breath waiting for proof of her non payment of rates.

    Meant of course in a caring way :D

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  123. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    Penny, you have no credibility until you address the rates issue. Some of your claims may have merit, but no one will listen for that reason. Up to you…

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  124. dirty harry (235 comments) says:

    you’re a sexy woman Penny Bright..I like a woman with a bit of fire in ‘er..bit of spunk..what ya up to later on tonite eh ?

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  125. Nookin (2,887 comments) says:

    Typical Penny. Comes here for some free legal advice and to have her ego stroked, doesn’t happen so she gets all abusive. Is that a characteristic of narcissism?

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  126. bhudson (4,720 comments) says:

    So you will have no trouble then doing as suggested: post a rates demand on one of your many websites and link it to here

    Penny has previously said she won’t pay her rates while the council refuses to be transparent on the use and costs of contractors by the council – the contractocracy I think she referred to it as.

    She believes that she should not be required to pay until they do. That the law should not apply to her.

    And then she posts here incessantly about “one law for all.”

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  127. cha (3,529 comments) says:

    My solution, ban participation in any conflict other than as a member of your own national service and without exception strip citizenship from those who do. Mercenaries included.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/first-british-suicide-bomber-in-syria-believed-to-have-struck-aleppo-prison-9115530.html

    https://twitter.com/ShirazMaher/statuses/431674491589386240

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  128. Manolo (12,618 comments) says:

    The ONE thing we do know about Penny is that she is a hypocrite and liar.

    I would add she is corrupt to the core. The rotten woman has no redeeming feature.

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  129. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    cha, how about banning participation in any conflict unless your country is directly under threat ?

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  130. Sofia (779 comments) says:

    Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern of grandiosity (either in fantasy or actual behavior), an overwhelming need for admiration, and usually a complete lack of empathy toward others. People with this disorder often believe they are of primary importance in everybody’s life or to anyone they meet.

    People with narcissistic personality disorder often display snobbish, disdainful, or patronizing attitudes. For example, an individual with this disorder may complain about a clumsy waiter’s “rudeness” or “stupidity” or conclude a medical evaluation with a condescending evaluation of the physician.

    In order for a person to be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) they must meet five or more of the following symptoms:

    •Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

    • Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

    • Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

    • Requires excessive admiration

    • Has a very strong sense of entitlement, e.g., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

    • Is exploitative of others, e.g., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
    Lacks empathy, e.g., is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others. But feigns empathy

    • Regularly shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

    Accord themselves titles like Guardian or Watchdog

    Claim precarious exploits, like not paying rates, in support of some fantasy position.

    http://psychcentral.com/disorders/narcissistic-personality-disorder-symptoms/

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  131. dog_eat_dog (677 comments) says:

    Penny, please explain how your freeloading is any better than the supposed ills you complain so much about within the council?

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  132. nasska (9,489 comments) says:

    Waterwoman

    On December 11th, 2013 at 8:56 pm ‘Sofia’ commented:

    ….”Inquiries indicate there is nothing spectacularly ‘undue’ with rates on
    86A School Road, Kingsland, Auckland, 1021
    Assessment Number 00000674648″….

    That seems at variance with your much avowed campaign that hinges on you not paying your rates by way of protest. Surely as a Public Watchdog you’ll realise that personal integrity is everything.

    Don’t keep your loyal fans waiting…..show us the proof. :)

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  133. mara (639 comments) says:

    Sofi ….an excellent portrait of Silent T, Krudd and Two stroke Lenny. Sigh, it takes some people an AGE to catch on.

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  134. Sofia (779 comments) says:

    Of course if you refused to pay rates on some principle, but then found it was ignored, after about three years
    a true Watchdog should trash her own case to reveal the ineptitude of the Auckland City Council Rates Department.

    But suffering some cognitive dissonance you likely can’t see that if you were avoiding paying rates, for one motive, if greatly conflicts with your other supposed driving force, that of anti-corruption, fairness [being "one law for all"], and holding the council to proper financial operation.

    Either way you are screwed, Penny. Offered, of course, in as caring manner as you purport :-)

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  135. dirty harry (235 comments) says:

    A good, but worrying read

    http://1law4all.kiwi.nz/2014/02/08/whats-actually-going-on-in-auckland-council/

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  136. Manolo (12,618 comments) says:

    AGW continues to hit the world:
    http://www.mlive.com/weather/index.ssf/2014/02/great_lakes_added_11_percent_i.html

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  137. wat dabney (3,438 comments) says:

    Some may remember billionaire Leona Helmsley, convicted of tax evasion and reported during the trial as having boasted ‘only the little people pay taxes.’

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leona_Helmsley

    Yes, the same contemptuous attitude that defines our Penny.

    Only the little people pay rates, eh Penny.

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  138. Sofia (779 comments) says:

    Penny, if your claims are to be believed, that you haven’t paid rates since 2008, how would you explain that ACC hasn’t prosecuted you?

    Could it be that you are seen as a special case, a Mayoral candidate at different stages, so not to be made a martyr of; a person who disrupts ACC proceedings, so rates action could be called vindictive, or they just don’t want to provide you with the publicity vehicle court action could be.

    And if you are getting some sort of special consideration does that not put you on the same level as fucking Pants Down Len Brown receiving Sky City largess, just as you [if the truth is being told] are being privileged, contrary to “one law for all”, and like Mrs Brown with her fortunate upgrades, you are accepting the situation of apparent rent freedom, as a windfall, instead of calling them on their apparent fucking uselessness to collect rates due.

    If you were a valid Watchdog you should have thrown yourself under the bus – an ACC one.
    Offered, again of course, in as caring manner as you purport :-)

    But then some know different. Right: individual rates information is a privacy issue, but if you carefully ask the right question you can still get an answer to what you want to know. That too, in a caring way :-)

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  139. nasska (9,489 comments) says:

    A bloke returns from a pleasure trip to Thailand feeling a bit under the weather. He goes to see his doctor who sends him straight to the hospital for tests.

    He wakes up in a private hospital room to the sound of the phone ringing.

    “This is your doctor. We’ve diagnosed you as having a nasty STD called GASH. It’s a combo of Gonorrhoea, AIDS, Syphilis and Herpes. It’s resistant to all known antibiotics.”

    “Fucking hell!” says the patient, packing shit.

    “We’re going to keep you in isolation,” says the doc, “and feed you pizzas and pancakes.”

    “OK,” says the patient. “Will that cure me?”

    “Hell no,” says the doctor. “But it’s the only food that will slip under the door.”

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  140. publicwatchdog (1,817 comments) says:

    Because ‘leave’ has not yet been granted by the ‘conflicted’ Attorney-General Chris Finlayson for the private prosecution against Mayor Len Brown for alleged bribery and corruption, the following affidavit I prepared is not subjudice – because the matter is not (yet) before the Court.

    Why do I support Mayor Len Brown being charged with alleged bribery and corruption?

    I suggest you read the FACTS and EVIDENCE for yourself:

    http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/LEN-BROWN-PRIVATE-PROSECUTION-2full-affidavit-penny-1.pdf

    In my considered opinion, both Mayor Len Brown and Deputy Mayor Penny Hulse are working in the interests of the 1% – unelected corporates and property-developers – whose mechanism for corrupt corporate control of the Auckland region, is via the unelected Committee for Auckland.

    How many Auckland Council (and CCO) contracts are going to member companies of the Committee for Auckland?

    How can it possibly be ok for the former CEO of Auckland Council, Doug McKay and now the current CEO, Stephen Town to be members of the unelected, invitation-only, $10,000 membership fee per year, Committee for Auckland?

    Don’t you get it?

    The main purpose of the Ernst and Young Report, was, in my considered opinion, to help protect Mayor Len Brown from possible criminal prosecution.

    How on earth apparently NOBODY noticed, or took any notice, of the DUE PROCESS for dealing with non-compliance with the Auckland Council ‘Code of Conduct’ (s.8 ‘Compliance’) is utterly beyond me.

    http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/SiteCollectionDocuments/aboutcouncil/governingbody/codeofconductelectedmembers.pdf

    Where are all the so-called lawyers?

    What is your ‘considered opinion’ on the ‘Rule of Law’ applying here?

    How can it possibly be proper for the (former) CEO of Auckland Council, to make up his own process and appoint his own people?

    I’m not a lawyer – but I’m not stupid and I can read – and if I think something is NOT right, I WILL ‘have a go’.

    Penny Bright

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  141. Left Right and Centre (2,390 comments) says:

    I’m not a lawyer – but I’m not stupid and I can read – and if I think something is NOT right, I WILL ‘have a go’.

    Yeah ? Well read my lips – you’re one batshit crazy SOB !!

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  142. publicwatchdog (1,817 comments) says:

    Ahhhh – the Kiwiblog goldfish are gumming away – a sure sign of jamming some buttons on FULL :)

    Keep up the bogus spin-doctoring and thank you SO much for making my night!

    Kind regards,

    Penny Bright

    PS: I have been taken to Court for disputing and refusing to pay rates – perhaps you missed this Rob Stock article that explains the situation? http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/8229103/Super-city-plan-for-mortgagee-sales

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  143. publicwatchdog (1,817 comments) says:

    “Yeah ? Well read my lips – you’re one batshit crazy SOB !!”

    Well ‘Left Right and Centre’ if you weren’t yet another anonymous gutless Kiwiblogger, who doesn’t put their own name to their posts, and probably hasn’t done anything lately in the public interest that would cause your picture to be out there, I might be able to put a face to those ‘lips’?

    Never mind ….. (yawn….)

    (Meant of course in a caring way :)

    You have a LOVELY night!

    Kind regards,

    Penny Bright

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  144. Puzzled in Ekatahuna (329 comments) says:

    Penny read comments 7:57, 7:48, 6:51, 6:32, 5:54, 5:48, 5:43, 5:16, 5:13, 5:01, 4:57, 4:50, 4:39, and 4:23
    and wonder no more.
    If you are telling the truth, your acceptance of a rates free situation for whatever the reason, is worse than Len Brown’s troughligacy and compromised position – general ratepayers know about Brown’s fuck-ups but yours seem hidden from them.

    Post a rates demand as suggested, or piss off with your self ingratiation and magpie some other nest.

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  145. stigie (618 comments) says:

    Phuck me Penny, if the ACC had any balls, they should be blocking up your sewage and cut off your fucking water until you paid your fucking rates !!~

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  146. nasska (9,489 comments) says:

    The copy of the rates bill Waterwoman.

    Don’t get distracted! :)

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  147. publicwatchdog (1,817 comments) says:

    Here you go ‘Puzzled in Ekatahuna’ – put yourself out of your misery and read this:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/8229103/Super-city-plan-for-mortgagee-sales

    Kind regards,

    Penny Bright

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  148. Manolo (12,618 comments) says:

    Miss Dim, a parasite, a bludger, a leech on society’s back, a good for nothing parasitical element.
    In summary, a waste of oxygen.

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  149. stigie (618 comments) says:

    Can anybody have a crack at what Penny owes to the ACC in rates from 2008 ?

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  150. publicwatchdog (1,817 comments) says:

    Sorry ‘nasska’ – I’m not quite sure who you think YOU are – but you aren’t actually my boss – and I have given you all the information that is required to prove that some of you are effectively telling porkies – so that’s it for now!

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/8229103/Super-city-plan-for-mortgagee-sales

    Enjoy your evening :)

    Kind regards,

    Penny Bright

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  151. Puzzled in Ekatahuna (329 comments) says:

    Penny Bright, a serially unsuccessful candidate in mayoral elections, stopped paying her rates in 2008 to protest a lack of council transparency. She said she would pay only when the council revealed details of the contracts it was awarding to private businesses as Aucklanders had a right to know where their money was being spent.

    Councils have powers under which banks can increase debtors’ mortgage payments to pay their rates bills or they can apply to the courts to have arrears paid from deductions to ratepayers’ salaries.

    Auckland Council uses these powers thousands of times a year, but Bright owns her own home without a mortgage, and is not salaried, and is therefore not susceptible to either tactic.

    There are two other options for the council, but despite Bright’s non-payment, the council has not used either during the long standoff: it could seek a court order to have property seized and auctioned or it could seek a “writ of sale” allowing it to conduct a mortgagee sale. These are options available to any creditor owed money by an asset-rich debtor who is unwilling to pay up.

    The council said it had obtained court orders to compel Bright to pay, and the rates debts had been secured by lodging charging orders against her property so she couldn’t sell it until the debts were paid.

    But its restraint in moving to the last resort of seeking to sell Bright’s Epsom home appears to have been a result of a lack of clear policy.

    Bright said she would welcome the council “making a martyr” of her and trying to sell her home, saying it would highlight the lack of council transparency.

    Recalling the reason for her rates protest, Bright said: “I wasn’t going to pay my rates as long as they weren’t going to tell me where my money was going.”

    Bright said a bureaucracy had been replaced by a “contractocracy”, and there had never been a jot of proof that contracting out council services had produced benefits to ratepayers.

    “How come ever since they have been contracting out, rates have continued to go up,” she said. “There has never been a cost/benefit analysis of contracting out council services.”

    She also dismisses the argument that contracts are commercially sensitive, saying a condition of doing business with the council, and profiting from ratepayer money, should be transparency.

    Bright intends to stand again for the mayoralty in this year’s election, and there is no rule to prevent her despite her refusal to pay her rates. Bright has also been refusing to pay her water bills.

    Auckland Council said the payment of rates was important to fund council services.

    “The majority of ratepayers pay their rates on time. When ratepayers do not pay their rates, they place an unfair burden on those who do pay.”
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/8229103/Super-city-plan-for-mortgagee-sales

    “Where there is no mortgage, councils across the country are entitled to invoke a sale of the property to recover unpaid rates,” the statement said. “Obviously, this is a serious step to take and not one any council would pursue lightly.”

    The council appears to have been goaded by the refusal of one leftist political activist to pay rates for nearly five years.
    Auckland ratepayers beware. The super-city will soon have a new policy on when it will move to sell the homes of people who refuse to pay their rates.

    Thank Penny Bright for that.

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  152. stigie (618 comments) says:

    Oh dear Nasska, you have been told off !!

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  153. Sofia (779 comments) says:

    A moment ago Penny was wondering “Where are all the so-called lawyers?
    What is your ‘considered opinion’ on the ‘Rule of Law’ applying here?”

    We wonder too.
    What is the legal situation then when someone says they are not paying rates, but the council has obtained court orders to compel the person to pay, and the rates debts had been secured by lodging charging orders against her property so she couldn’t sell it until the debts were paid?

    As indicated before, the situation is roughly “resolved” and not quite as the fucking liar would have you believe.
    Nice one on the transparency, Penny.

    Now that your DAY HAS BEEN MADE, enjoy your evening :-)

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  154. Sidey (227 comments) says:

    Is it possible that since 2008 Penny Bright has paid any outstanding rates after receiving from ACC the information she was holding out for? I lack the willpower to read her scribblings, but she seems to be trying to avoid confirming that there are arrears remaining. I may have missed it, but I don’t recall a clear statement from her that there are rates outstanding that she refuses to pay.

    All in the interests of transparency of course. And meant in the utmost caring and considerate way.

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  155. Sidey (227 comments) says:

    On behalf of ACC ratepayers, I hope any debt now secured against the subject property has a built-in inflation element. Otherwise over many years the debt will be basically inflated away at the expense of ratepayers, while the property increases in value – which will accrue to non other than our resident “person of the people”.

    Nice work Ms Bright! Way to play the capitalist game – I just hope you don’t get kicked out of the 99% for joining the 1% with a well-though out scam.

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  156. Johnboy (13,342 comments) says:

    Who’d have guessed that nasska’s wife was “Puzzled” ! :)

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  157. stigie (618 comments) says:

    “Puzzled” at the thought of getting remarried JB ?

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  158. Johnboy (13,342 comments) says:

    Most likely puzzled that she is in Ekatahuna at all stigie after what nasska promised her! :)

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  159. Johnboy (13,342 comments) says:

    Evening Minus! :)

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  160. stigie (618 comments) says:

    Surely that is not nasska giving you that nasty downtick there JB, hes usually on a promise this time on a Saturday night ?

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  161. Johnboy (13,342 comments) says:

    You seem rather intimate with nasska’s sexual activities stigie!

    Tell us more…? :)

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  162. KevinH (1,128 comments) says:

    Whilst I would agree that Mayor Len Brown’s personal behaviour was morally reprehensible, to which he has been held accountable, I would not agree however that he is corrupt and has engaged in bribery as alleged by Ms Bright.
    Those allegations would require considerable investigation and review by several government agencies such as the Police, and would require irrefutable evidence and witness accounts to establish a prima facie case.

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  163. stigie (618 comments) says:

    Theres things you dont know about Nasska there JB, hes quite secretive in those sensitive areas !

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  164. Johnboy (13,342 comments) says:

    You seem to be attracting the minus monster stigie! :)

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