Peters right on this one

February 5th, 2014 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

New Zealand First leader Winston Peters has taken the rare step of going into bat for the Prime Minister over protests, saying those who use the occasion to shout and disrupt the Prime Minister’s attendance at Te Tii Marae are “crapping on their own heritage”.

Prime Minister John Key is to be welcomed on to Te Tii Marae today and has said he expects protests, having been grabbed and shouted down in previous years.

The initial signs that this year would also be restive came yesterday when the Governor-General was shouted at and there was a scuffle between protester Hinewhare Harawira and marae elders at the door of the meeting house.

If the PM announced he would never attend Waitangi Day at Te Tii Marae again, he’d probably go up 10% in the polls.

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40 Responses to “Peters right on this one”

  1. virtualmark (1,475 comments) says:

    So why doesn’t he?

    Really, he’d look more prime ministerial if he just called them on their rude behaviour.

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  2. Nick R (497 comments) says:

    Because Helen Clark did.

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  3. tvb (4,210 comments) says:

    I have self imposed blackout on watching any Waitangi day crap except for Paul Henry.

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  4. Viking2 (11,146 comments) says:

    Tangi day again. all the crap heads gather together to insult everyone else.

    So what’s new?

    Stop pandering the the racist pricks.

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  5. David Garrett (6,461 comments) says:

    There were very few things clark did which I agreed with…refusing to go to Waitangi to be insulted and intimidated once a year was one of them.

    The idiotic Hinewhare Harawira – sister of Hone (I think) – didnt even know what she was protesting about when asked yesterday …As DPF says, Key would gain rather than lose support if he declined to go…Sooner or late some mad member of the dispossessed brown proletariat will turn up there with a gun…

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  6. Longknives (4,467 comments) says:

    Waitangi Day is a National Disgrace- Watching those feral dropkicks screaming insults and throwing fish at the Prime Minister (Seriously- Who throws a fish?) makes me wish he would just say ‘No more’ and refuse to go.
    Good on Winston for being seemingly the only Politician in NZ with the guts to say what we are all thinking…

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  7. Tautaioleua (282 comments) says:

    Helen Clark did what most people were thinking – she chose to ignore the morons at Waitangi and visited communities all over Auckland instead (where the true spirit of nationalism lies).

    There should be no oxygen for the separatists. John Key is playing with fire.

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  8. lolitasbrother (486 comments) says:

    As a person who wants to see a NZ Nat Govt 2014, I welcome the fact that NZ Nat accepts NZ First is a possible partner in Government.
    For Winston, he is between the devil [red] and the deep blue sea.
    Whichever way he shows the card, gains and loses him support.
    The latest poll results tell him exactly what the punters want.

    The latest poll results tell him exactly what the punters want.
    Of course the problem is to turn this into votes.
    Unless something remarkable happens and Winston saves a child from something terrible, NZ Nat can not give him an electoral seat.
    There is risk here, but played well it can be a return for NZ First as an ally.
    I think Nat supporters would like to see Govt backed up by NZFirst, Conservative and Act, and also Maori

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  9. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    I’m always disgusted to see the Governor General or the Prime Minister walking with convicted torturer Titewhai Harawira. You don’t see Obama walking hand-in-hand with Lynndie England. Torturers should be shunned, not given center stage at our national day.

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  10. Joanne (177 comments) says:

    Send the lowest ranked National MP there – only one.

    Let Metiria do all her grandstanding without the media covering it because they won’t if the PM is not there. Well the mainstream media anyway.

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  11. virtualmark (1,475 comments) says:

    Winston has far less compulsion about just chasing votes. I’m sure he knows his voter base will applaud him for mouthing off at rude Maoris in Waitangi.

    Meanwhile the Nats are trying too hard to bend over and accommodate Ngapuhi.

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  12. lukaswebb (1 comment) says:

    Fish thrown at Waitangi. No reports yet on where David Shearer was at the time of the incident.

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  13. virtualmark (1,475 comments) says:

    Longknives,

    Waitangi Day is a National Disgrace- Watching those feral dropkicks screaming insults and throwing fish at the Prime Minister (Seriously- Who throws a fish?)

    He mistook John Key for David Shearer.

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  14. lolitasbrother (486 comments) says:

    Voting Conservative.
    Impartial outlooks
    Believing what you were told by Government in 1965, meant that the most famous President ever, John Kennedy
    was shot by a lone Assassin with a World War 1 Italian rifle, which was notoriously inaccurate and slow,
    and this meant believing in the near impossible.
    Americans do not believe this now. The real evidence is overwhelming LBJ.

    Believing that Kennedy’s men landed on the moon in 1971 or so, meant believing in Television.
    For me it could have been a landing at Arizona.

    Believing the full story about 9/11 does not explain things.
    Big buildings do not freefall unless triggered to do so

    Voting Conservative, Colin Craig.
    So what is the problem. Yes that’s right Colin Craig is a Conservative.
    And he would support the NZ Nat Govt 2014.
    So lets call him crazy, lose the election, and see what the Green’s have in store for us.
    And that will be decidedly crazy

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  15. redqueen (457 comments) says:

    I agree. It is actually one of the few (in my opinion) offputting things Key does (repeatedly). By going to Waitangi, he legitimises the media’s reporting and ‘coverage’ of the peutred crap which some people wish to ‘express’ (excrete, in most cases). He is giving them a soapbox and doing this gives them ‘legitimate’ coverage, which our media is so free with.

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  16. Rex Widerstrom (5,274 comments) says:

    davidp says:

    Torturers should be shunned, not given center stage at our national day.

    I agree. But I find it ironic that while the PM cosying up to a torturer is abhorrent to many people here, his embrace of someone who lied to the people of NZ & stole from them isn’t.

    Oh, but that’s “tactical”? So if her son threw in the towel and Titewhai took over, where would our flexible morality take us then?

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  17. peterwn (3,164 comments) says:

    virtualmark – he did call them on their rude behaviour and got slammed for it.

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  18. David Garrett (6,461 comments) says:

    lolitasbro: Increase the dose by 50%

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  19. labrator (1,750 comments) says:

    Mr Peters said Waitangi was the wrong place for that protest… … But Green Party co-leader Metiria Turei said it was the appropriate time and place.
    “Waitangi is all about Te Tiriti o Waitangi, and it hasn’t been honoured.” “It is simply holding the Government to account.”

    I almost hoped that Turei would be voted in this year just so she could protest herself next year. The only other logical conclusion from her argument is that all of the Treaty claims would be resolved in the 3 months before the following ToW day.

    There is a 3rd way in which she’s a self serving hypocrite but that’s not possible as we all know the Greens are above reproach and consistently apply their morals in a non-partisan way.

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  20. hmmokrightitis (1,514 comments) says:

    Nicely put Rex. My thought on seeing this as: Ah ok…

    Election year, Key looking for partners, Winston, do us a favour, upcoming baubles, give you racing, start aligning yourself over here will you?

    It wasn’t that long ago that MOST on here would have labeled the aging Winny a lying scumbag. And who are the first to bag the left for their flexible morality?

    I would rather see National fail than align itself with a known liar. NO sign anyone? DPF? No, didnt think so.

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  21. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    labrator>But Green Party co-leader Metiria Turei said it was the appropriate time and place.

    Turei is hardly in a good position to protest against oil exploration, when she boils the stuff and pours it over the battlements of her modest Dunedin home.

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  22. Goldsmith (22 comments) says:

    Joanne: Send Alfred Ngaro, is there such an MP?… Alfred who? Exactly!

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  23. itstricky (1,578 comments) says:

    Is throwing fish any worse than calling a Coaster feral?

    Aren’t they just expressing their right to freedom of speech/expression or whatever? Should they otherwise just be quiet and pretend that the world is rosy for them?

    No no no… seriously…

    Do you have to be involved and have an opinion – I mean you could always turn to the other channel, not worry about it and enjoy your Waitangi Day holiday?

    I mean, if side show Bob (forgotten his name, the Brash marketing guy) showed up and started screaming and shouting (which he has done in the past) would he have any more legitimacy?

    It was actually quite inventive, a visualisation of the whole “slap in the face with a wet fish” saying. Clearly it flew over a few people’s heads (boom boom, if you didn’t get that one).

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  24. KH (687 comments) says:

    Votes would be up if he stood up to then. Wash my mouth as I agree with those above. But Helen Clark did the right thing.
    And as for Titiwhai the convicted crim – for abuse of mental health clients. Accompanying people on. !!
    Anybody would have my admiration if they refused to have her within 20 meters of them. And loudly said why.
    Those who run the Waitangi fiasco should be ashamed.

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  25. bringbackdemocracy (394 comments) says:

    “Peters is right on this one”

    Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

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  26. ldypen (27 comments) says:

    In the true spirit of the treaty (all being equal) we should next year on the 6th Feb invite the Hariwira clan along with other notable separatists and scum down to Government house where us white mother f%^$#@s can spit on, throw fish at, jostle and insult them… sounds fair don’t it?

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  27. kowtow (7,645 comments) says:

    If the PM announced abolishing the Maori seats he’d go up to 80 %.

    Instead he’s talked down the latest insult at that place to the office of the PM.Just like the GG did.

    Our political class is nothing but a bunch of appeasers.

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  28. RRM (9,471 comments) says:

    Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

    Winston has been consistently good on Maori ™ bullshit over a long period of time….

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  29. PaulL (5,874 comments) says:

    It’s politics. Politics is about votes and winning power. Presumably Key and those who advise him believe there are more votes in turning up for ritual humiliation, but taking it like a man, than there are in making an incident out of it.

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  30. Peter (1,578 comments) says:

    Helen Clark was right.

    I don’t know why Key can’t see the obvious….most New Zealanders loathe the annual Fatstorm Of The North, all sound and fury, signifying absolutely nothing at all about being a New Zealander.

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  31. duggledog (1,361 comments) says:

    I just want to re-post this from Wikiriwhi’s Business @ 11.17 over on GD as it spoke volumes to me.

    “It’s not Maori it’s just Ngapuhi always trying to get the attention of their Waikato King/nephew.

    Maori as a whole are happy with treaty settlements and are not complaining.

    Keep your complaints of Waitangi day confined to Ngapuhi”

    He (she) said.

    Well now Wiki. I expect to see you next year outside Te Tii Marae proclaiming this then.

    However I won’t hold my breath – because it never happens does it. To the rest of us it looks like there’s an unwritten, tacit approval of each others’ behaviour when it comes to Whitey, but then as you’ve intimated here, every tribe is better than the other.

    Perception is everything. To you, this ridiculous annual charade is a Ngapuhi thing. To the hundreds of thousands of Chinese, Indian, Korean etc etc immigrants who are here now, (to say nothing of the many more waiting in the wings) it’s a MAORI THING, and it disgusts them.

    Just quietly behind closed doors they don’t give a flying f*** about the Maori culture by the way as they have their own far older cultures and they ain’t giving them up in a hurry. See; Diwali, Chinese New Year etc.

    That’s one thing, but Maori are fast losing the support of old school kiwis like me too. I reckon ‘your people’ are the ones that need to turn that waka around, because all anyone ever sees is Maori in the news for all the wrongs reasons, (just today who was sentenced to 21 years) capped off every year by what looks like a big ‘F You’ to whoever is the PM at Waitangi.

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  32. lilman (892 comments) says:

    Leave if you dont like it you feral natives.

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  33. virtualmark (1,475 comments) says:

    PaulL, that’s the puzzle really.

    I suspect there’s more votes for Key in giving them a serve that if they aren’t prepared to respect the office of the Prime Minister then they shouldn’t expect the Prime Minister to keep coming to Waitangi.

    Not to say Maori should have to agree with everything the Prime Minister and government does. Or can’t raise legitimate complaints and grievances. But just that they show some respect and courtesy.

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  34. OneTrack (2,618 comments) says:

    “Is throwing fish any worse than calling a Coaster feral?”

    Yes

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  35. jonnycomelately (18 comments) says:

    lolitasbrother: Increase the dose by 100%. Kennedy was shot in 1963 and man landed on the moon in 1969 not 1965 and 1971.

    We need to stop giving Waitangi media coverage and celebrate our national day differently and in a more positive way. The rapacious Maori and Harawiras have nothing to protest about and get far to much air time.

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  36. Chuck Bird (4,684 comments) says:

    “I would rather see National fail than align itself with a known liar. NO sign anyone? DPF? No, didnt think so.”

    What utter crap. Winston lied and I would tell him to his face but I may still vote for him.

    What MP that has not sat quietly on the back bench not told a lie.

    How may people believe John Key is telling the truth when he said he did his flip flop on global warming after watching Al Gore’s movie? He did his flip flop for political reason not scientific.

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  37. Interested (19 comments) says:

    I always thought there were 2 sides to a treaty but the Waitangi one seems to only have one….

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  38. Crusader (279 comments) says:

    How may people believe John Key is telling the truth when he said he did his flip flop on global warming after watching Al Gore’s movie? He did his flip flop for political reason not scientific.

    Nobody of any intelligence believes a word said by that fraudulent hypocritical self-serving charlatan Al Gore. The whole “hockey stick graph” is well debunked scientifically. But, like you say, there is such a quasi-religious fervour to the “end of the world is nigh” panic of the warmists, anyone who for a moment doubts their faith-based nonsense gets shouted down. Key had to pretend to believe that crap to get elected.

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  39. KevinH (1,132 comments) says:

    @Idypen
    It’s the same old shit stirrers who cause all the trouble at Waitangi i.e. the Harawira whanau and Winston is dead right in saying that they are crapping on all Ngapuhi by abusing tikanga at Te Tii Marae.
    So I say give them a taste of there own crap and abuse them on their marae and see how they handle it.

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  40. Mark Craig (28 comments) says:

    I recall just a few short years ago Mrs Titify Harawera insisting on her right to walk alongside the nazional parties latest great helmsman on to the Wiaitangi marae and then her going on the Tv the very next day and calling him a dog.
    I mean WTF .
    The gutless prick should grow a pair of decent cojones and tell the whole rotten bunch to get stuffed .Christ what a charade ,the middle east would appear to be more easily fixed than these malcontents .

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