Told you the Greens would adopt them as policy

February 8th, 2014 at 7:00 am by David Farrar

I joked that the long list of requests from the UN (which has some of the worst global abusers of human rights on it) would probably end up as Green Party policy.

My joke may become reality, with Green MP Jan Logie saying we should be concerned that there were 155 recommendations, compared to 64 last time.

I look forward to the pledging to implement all 155 recommendations if they are in Government!

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24 Responses to “Told you the Greens would adopt them as policy”

  1. duggledog (1,431 comments) says:

    Just reading this, I am mildly alarmed at the number of people I know who are determined to vote Green in this year’s election. I am more alarmed by the fact all the people the Mrs and I know who have professed this desire, are in their thirties and even forties, urbane, rational, pleasant, settled, well-informed, well paid professionals. Not silly twenty-something metros. Just now off the top of my head I can think of twelve. None of them have tattoos or dreadlocks or gigantic chunks of pounamu round their necks or anything else you’d expect.

    Bit scary isn’t it!

    Maybe they don’t mean it (no I don’t live in Central Wgtn or Ponsonby)

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  2. Manolo (13,516 comments) says:

    That woman is bonkers as bonkers can be. Dangerous people the Luddites are.

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  3. jp_1983 (200 comments) says:

    Just think the Greens could invite ‘human rights’ envoys from Somalia and Iran.
    I am sure we would learn very quickly how human rights is supposed to be done…

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  4. Paulus (2,558 comments) says:

    Greens may be bonkers but what we are seeing now is the indoctrination of our Education system some 20 plus years ago – Clark era, coming up to adulthood.
    They have never had it so good in their lifetimes as they are returning with their perceived grievances to such as the Green Taliban.
    “Lord forgive them for they know not what they do!”

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  5. Odakyu-sen (510 comments) says:

    “Just reading this, I am mildly alarmed at the number of people I know who are determined to vote Green in this year’s election.”

    Most of the Greens I know would fall into the “urbane, rational, pleasant, settled, well-informed, well paid professionals” category that you describe. All of them come from moderately well-off families (thanks to the hard efforts of their fathers, in most cases). Most of them studied soft sciences (anthropology, sociology, psychology, etc.) at university, and now work in government bodies or NPOs. None of them are self-employed. Many of the women have “partners” (often older and of independent means).

    Their attitude seems to be composed of: a) I know what is best for society, b) you can’t be trusted to make the right decisions, and c) whatever happens, I can retire to my family’s holiday hobby farm in Matakana, d) if you don’t agree with me, you are beyond help.

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  6. duggledog (1,431 comments) says:

    Odakyu-sen:

    “I can retire to my family’s holiday hobby farm in Matakana,”

    That’s it in a nutshell. Come to think of it, the Green voters I know have never had to worry about money in their lives.

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  7. OneTrack (2,806 comments) says:

    duggledog – “Bit scary isn’t it!”

    These are the same useful idiots who will be whining in about 12-18 months time, “oh, ur, I didn’t think that they would do that”

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  8. Southern Raider (1,735 comments) says:

    It’s the same logic as movie stars. They earn some much money that they can’t spend it so they think every other actually working person must have high disposable income and well and therefore be able to save the planet through massive increased costs.

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  9. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Logie is a warped pathetic loser, her views and ideas are so far left, she is out of control. Maybe she will be next co-leader of this dysfunctional party.

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  10. OneTrack (2,806 comments) says:

    DPF – stop giving them ideas.

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  11. lolitasbrother (581 comments) says:

    Well I am rather frightened by duggledog first comment above February 8th, 2014 at 8:34 am
    quote
    Just reading this, I am mildly alarmed at the number of people I know who are determined to vote Green in this year’s election. I am more alarmed by the fact all the people the Mrs and I know who have professed this desire, are in their thirties and even forties, urbane, rational, pleasant, settled, well-informed, well paid professionals. Not silly twenty-something metros. Just now off the top of my head I can think of twelve. None of them have tattoos or dreadlocks or gigantic chunks of pounamu round their necks or anything else you’d expect.

    Bit scary isn’t it!
    unquote

    I lost a friend recently, a young arrogant guy, who could not help but pour derision over my politic attitude, conservative.
    I do agree with Duggledog that well off people he knows can afford to pontificate and make the world a better place
    by voting Green. Well off people have less pain , and can afford to be loose intellectually.
    On the other hand we had people to our home last night, and one bloke said to me that New Zealanders will not vote a Labour Green Government .
    But they do in the polls.
    I am alarmed , and I have made up my mind to fight this election.
    It grieves me we will lose my friend Nicky Wagner in Christchurch Central

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  12. tvb (4,246 comments) says:

    The Greens commitment to human rights is bullshit. They have a casual approach to private property and confiscation of income through punitive taxes.

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  13. Simon (712 comments) says:

    The Greens have all the moral authority of a fat woman ordering people to eat healthy.

    Wait a minute…….

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  14. Fisiani (993 comments) says:

    The Greens have always been ignored by National and their utter craziness has not been made clear to voters.
    Voting Green means
    NO MORE ROADS
    NO MORE OIL WEALTH
    NO MORE GAS WEALTH
    NO MORE COAL WEALTH
    NO MORE GAS WEALTH
    NO MORE SALMON WEALTH
    NO MORE IRRIGATION WEALTH
    NO MORE MINERAL WEALTH
    NO MORE FISHING WEALTH
    AND A SUGAR TAX, A FAT TAX, A RICH TAX, A PROPERTY TAX
    { and this lifted from an earlier Kiwiblog post] Now this is only stuff they officially want to ban as detailed in a policy statement. I haven’t even attempted to go through the masses of press releases and speeches where MPs have advocated additional bans on anything that moves. So this is a conservative list.
    1.Ban fizzy drinks from schools
    2.Ban fuel inefficient vehicles
    3.Ban all gaming machines in pubs
    4.Ban the GCSB
    5.Ban violent TV programmes until after 10 pm
    6.Ban feeding of antibiotics to animals that are not sick
    7.Ban companies that do not comply with a Code of Corporate Responsibility
    8.Ban ACC from investing in enterprises that provide products or services that significantly increase rates of injury or illness or otherwise have significant adverse social or environmental effects
    9.Ban commercial Genetic Engineering trials
    10.Ban field testing on production of GE food
    11.Ban import of GE food
    12.Ban Urban Sprawl
    13.Ban non citizens/residents from owning land
    14.Ban further corporate farming
    15.Ban sale of high country farms to NZers who do not live in NZ at least 185 days a year
    16.Ban the transport by sea of farm animals, for more than 24 hours
    17.Ban crates for sows
    18.Ban battery cages for hens
    19.Ban factory farming of animals
    20.Ban the use of mechanically recovered meat in the food chain
    21.Ban the use of the ground-up remains of sheep and cows as stock feed
    22.Ban animal testing where animals suffer, even if of benefit to humans
    23.Ban cloning of animals
    24.Ban use of animals in GE
    25.Ban GE animal food
    26.Ban docking of dogs tails
    27.Ban intrusive animal experimentation as a teaching method in all educational institutions
    28.Ban smacking
    29.Ban advertising during children’s programmes
    30.Ban alcohol advertising on TV and radio
    31.Ban coal mining
    32.Ban the export of indigenous logs and chips
    33.Ban the use of bio-accumulative and persistent poisons
    34.Ban the establishment of mustelid farms
    35.Ban new exploration, prospecting and mining on conservation land and reserves
    36.Ban mining activities when rare and endemic species are found to present on the mining site
    37.Ban the trading conservation land for other land to facilitate extractive activities on.
    38.Ban the further holding of marine mammals in captivity except as part of an approved threatened species recovery strategy
    39.Ban the direct to consumer advertising of pharmaceuticals
    40.Ban sale of chips and lollies on school property
    41.Ban any additional use of coal for energy
    42.Ban fixed electricity charges
    43.Ban further large hydro plants
    44.Ban nuclear power
    45.Ban further thermal generation
    46.Ban private water management
    47.Ban imported vehicles over seven years old
    48.Ban the disposal of recyclable materials at landfills
    49.Ban the export of hazardous waste to non OECD countries
    50.Ban funding of health services by companies that sell unhealthy food (so McDonalds could not fund services for young cancer sufferers)
    51.Ban healthcare organizations from selling unhealthy food or drink
    52.Ban advertising of unhealthy food until after 8.30 pm
    53.Ban all food and drink advertisements on TV if they do not meet criteria for nutritious food
    54.Ban the use of antibiotics as sprays on crops
    55.Ban food irradiation within NZ
    56.Ban irradiated food imports
    57.Ban growth hormones for animals
    58.Ban crown agency investments in any entity that denies climate change!!
    59.Ban crown agency investments in any entity that is involved in tobacco
    60.Ban crown agency investments in any entity that is involved in environmentally damaging oil extraction or gold mining
    61.Ban non UN sanctioned military involvement (so China and Russia gets to veto all NZ engagements)
    62.Ban NZ from military treaties which are based on the right to self defence
    63.Ban NZers from serving as mercenaries
    64.Ban new casinos
    65.Allow existing casinos to be banned
    66.Ban promotion of Internet gambling
    67.Ban advertising of unhealthy food to children
    68.Ban cellphone towers within 300 metres of homes
    69.Ban new buildings that do not confirm to sustainable building principles
    70.Ban migrants who do not undertake Treaty of Waitangi education programmes
    71.Ban new prisons
    72.Ban semi-automatic weapons
    73.Ban genetic mixing between specieis
    74.Ban ocean mineral extractions within the EEZ
    75.Ban limited liability companies by making owners responsible for liability of products
    76.Ban funding of PTEs that compete with public tertiary institutes
    77.Ban the importation of goods and services that do not meet quality and environmental certification standards in production, lifecycle analysis, and eco-labelling
    78.Ban goods that do not meet quality and sustainability standards for goods which are produced and/or sold in Aotearoa/New Zealand
    79.Ban new urban highways or motorways
    80.Ban private toll roads
    81.Ban import of vehicles more than seven years old unless they meet emission standards
    82.Ban imported goods that do not meet standards for durability and ease of recycling
    83.Ban landfills
    84.Ban new houses without water saving measures
    85.Ban programmes on TVNZ with gratuitous violence

    If you discover further things they want to ban, add them on below!

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  15. Ross12 (1,264 comments) says:

    Wonderful list Fisiani. Now someone needs to put that as a one page ad in all the major daily papers.

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  16. Joanne (177 comments) says:

    Fisiani:

    Wouldn’t it be easier to just ban people?

    The Greens are a good example of the long term effects of using cannabis.

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  17. Pete George (23,299 comments) says:

    Add to the ban list: deep sea drilling, fracking.

    I have posted this list – Fisiani, if you’re interested I’ll keep this list going with any additions.

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  18. labrator (1,846 comments) says:

    The problem with that list is that the mentality in NZ is that banning is a good method for structuring society how you want it. Superficially a bunch of things on that list look appealing. As always it’s the law of unintended consequences that ruin it. If you’re going to publish a list anywhere make sure you put at least one downside next to each item otherwise it’s almost a Green party advertisement you’re running for free. eg 61.Ban non UN sanctioned military involvement (so China and Russia gets to veto all NZ engagements)
    Many people if you asked them if they should ban non-UN sanctioned military involvement would say yes. If you asked them if they thought China should be able to veto our military actions then they’d most likely say no.

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  19. corrigenda (142 comments) says:

    re Fisiani’s post. How about we just BAN THE GREENS and be done with it.

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  20. holysheet (297 comments) says:

    The trouble with the greens is they know they will never be in a position to actually implement the things on Fisiani’s list. So they can continue to say what they like and the well to do gooders will continue to believe them.

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  21. OneTrack (2,806 comments) says:

    holysheet – I wouldn’t be so sure. Green in coalition with Labour (and Mana). Labour have already come up with enough crazy ideas of their own to be a worry. Add a bit of Cunliffe yeah/nah into the mix, and when the Greens come up with one of the items on Fisiani’s list, who in Labour is going to say no to them.

    Shearer got dumped because he had the temerity to meet with Key without Russel minding him. That clique in Labour are still there.

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  22. Pete George (23,299 comments) says:

    Greens are deadly serious about getting into a position of power and implementing as much of their policy as they can.

    They are aware it’s a numbers game and the more seats they get compared to Labour the more of their policies they can push.

    And there’s a faction in Labour that share a number of the Green socialist priorities. And if you add Mana to the mix – perhaps with a deciding vote or two, that means there will be strong pressure on the socialist side of a left leaning coalition.

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  23. Rich Prick (1,633 comments) says:

    Lovey, the Greens get their policies from Iran, Somalia and such-like. I assume they will go the whole hog and advocate beheadings, stonings and famine.

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  24. hj (6,714 comments) says:

    The enigmatic fish thrower
    laid down his message
    about the ocean,
    the deep sea oil hikoi
    raised their banners
    and their representative,
    given space by Hone
    Harawira,
    directly challenged the
    Prime Minister.
    The tangata whenua decided
    that Annette Sykes
    should speak
    on the paepae
    and Metiria Turei
    should korero
    inside the wharenui.
    http://blog.greens.org.nz/2014/02/07/the-strength-of-waitangi-day/
    …..
    sung to the music of:

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