General Debate 3 March 2014

March 3rd, 2014 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. Don the Kiwi (1,763 comments) says:

    Czar Putin is reconstituting the Soviet Union.

    Europe is too weak to stop him, and Obama is too gutless and stupid to even know what to do.

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  2. Pete George (23,591 comments) says:

    Yesterday’s Mojo Mathers story is very odd, with the primary question asked not being answered, nor has whoever initiated the story been revealed.

    Summary

    There was an article in the Herald on Sunday by Patrice Dougan about deaf Green MP Mojo Mathers that asked more questions than it answered.

    Mathers is a very unlikely and unwise target for a petty political attack regarding MP travel when many questions could be asked about use and possible misuse of travel.

    Jordan Williams of the Taxpayers’ Union poorly answered questions put to him by the HoS but he denies initiating the issue and he went into damage control quickly.

    David Farrar, also involved with the Taxpayers’ Union, had no apparent involvement until making a late comment on Facebook, and posted nothing on Kiwiblog.

    Through the day a number of Greens, including co-leader Russel Norman and communications director Andrew Campbell, kept trying to link John Key and National to the attack on Mathers.

    Blogger Danyl Maclachlan (who’s partner works in the Green communication team) posts twice making serious accusations about funding of the Taxpayers’ Union and links with the TU and National and reacts aggressively when confronted.

    There was no apparent involvement of Labour with no post and from what I can see no mention of this at all on The Standard (very unusual for something like this). Grant Robertson jumped on the bandwagon late yesterday.

    The first question asked by the Herald remains unanswered – who asked it in the first place?

    Details: Mathers story seems odd

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  3. Keeping Stock (10,342 comments) says:

    Didn’t Labour pass the Electoral Finance Act in 2007 to STOP politicians passing donations through trusts? David Cunliffe’s non-disclosure of donations to his leadership campaign may be legal, but it rank hypocrisy on his part.

    Transparency is for EVERYONE Mr Cunliffe, not just for you and your union backers.

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2014/03/transparency-is-for-other-people.html

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  4. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Don the Kiwi (1,259 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 8:05 am

    Unfortunately the U.S.A is limited by money and resource. Russia is sitting on vast amounts of natural resources, not to mentions tons of diamonds, more than anyone else, and has nicely trained its population not to expect too much from it. With the stroke of a pen they could do serious damage to the world’s economy, and virtually cripple the US.

    It wouldn’t matter who the president was, they are in a very precarious position. Many residents of the U.S.A are no longer prepared to see so much money poured into the defence budget … it will be interesting to see where this goes.

    Perhaps the only ‘saving grace’ for the US will be if China and Russia have a tiff… either way I’m just glad I’m sitting at the bottom of the world.

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  5. iMP (2,387 comments) says:

    Go the 62 year old Timaru man granted rights to view the CVs of the other applicants for jobs he was turned down for.

    This definately goes on. It’s happened to me over and over again. Applied for jobs I’ve done before, have copious experience for, well-qualified, to not even get an interview, only to see younger, less-experienced and less-qualified people get it (that I knew). One job I reapplied for 4 times, as youngies came and went, but still, never hired.

    Once you hit 40, it changes radically. I hope this man exposes the practice we all know is real despite the politically correct fake facade we all live under.

    Many jobs are already filled internally, before they even advertise.

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  6. Paulus (2,632 comments) says:

    iMP

    You are quite correct that most jobs are internally filled. Promotions ? or just jobs and more money for the girls.
    This is very prevalent in the Public Service, particularly Local Government.
    But the laws require that the these jobs shall be advertised irrespective.
    So that is why you will not necessarily get an interview as its already fixed.

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  7. Monique Angel (291 comments) says:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/02/us-ukraine-crisis-idUSBREA1Q1E820140302

    Ukraine mobilizes.

    Straight to the white house for McCain.

    What’s been interesting as a new immigrant to the States, is seeing the U.S at the start of a cycle that New Zealand went into in 1999.

    The nasty wasty right wingers who would dare to face aggressive acts with REAL ACTUAL force instead of politically correct “diplomacy” get voted out for the left wing ideology. New Zealand has been through that and is on the upside but the U.S is in for a wild ride.

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  8. Andrei (2,664 comments) says:

    Oh no Vladimir Putin is kicking sand in Barack Obama’s face again.

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  9. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    This is a bit of a tricky case. A serious violent offender, a rapist whose crimes spread from 1980-1996 (prolonged offending).

    By all accounts he has done all the right things in prison, the courses, and has good behaviour, and outside visits have gone well. (He was sentenced to preventative detention on his last conviction in 1996).

    He now confesses to the parole board he was guilty of another rape in 1993 of which he was never convicted. The victim didn’t want to lay formal complaint.

    So what should happen… consider him for parole? Go for a conviction for the newly revealed offence? Accept that maybe rehabilitation has worked in this case – considering all we know about the ability of serial rapists and the ability to rehabilitate them).

    One good point is that he came clean about the undetected offence, but one can’t help feeling that maybe it was just to increase his chance of parole…

    http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/serial-rapist-finally-confesses-5855728?ref=newslettermorning

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  10. Scott Chris (6,150 comments) says:

    Good news from India:

    But for the first time, solar electricity prices have fallen to near parity with India’s coal-generated power prices, with solar prices at about 7 rupees (13c) per kilowatt/hour, versus coal’s 5-6 rupees per kilowatt/hour.

    Solar projects also need fewer clearances and take just six to 12 months to develop, versus about eight years for a coal plant. Analysts say India is set to pass its target of having 15 per cent of its energy produced by the sun and other minimally polluting sources by 2022.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11212564

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  11. Andrei (2,664 comments) says:

    America still hasn’t learned that it is NOT true that “inside every gook there is an American just waiting to get out”

    And that when you insight disorder to topple a Government that doesn’t go along with what Washington wants the people who will do the dirty work are not democratically inclined but motivated by ancient hatreds and that they are not very nice people.

    And that Kharkov – not Kharkiv as our media have started spelling it in a most effected manner, is not ever going to be a good place for gay pride festivals.

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  12. dime (9,980 comments) says:

    “Czar Putin is reconstituting the Soviet Union.

    Europe is too weak to stop him, and Obama is too gutless and stupid to even know what to do.”

    the yanks started it.

    Dime is pro-american but lets not kid ourselves. the yanks played a high risk game trying to get the ukraine to join the EU. they have failed.

    They were always going to fail.

    no way putin was going to let them chuck anti-ballistic missiles in the ukraine. then their is the big navy base russia needs so they can keep fucking with the middle east.

    Obama really is a failure. Barack carter obama

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  13. MT_Tinman (3,204 comments) says:

    iMP (2,040 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 8:18 am
    Go the 62 year old Timaru man granted rights to view the CVs of the other applicants for jobs he was turned down for.

    I disagree.

    This strikes me as just another do-gooder grandstanding (the HRCT fellow).

    Dangerously!

    An employer must have some discretion over who he hires above and beyond the “CV”.

    The employer (or his agent) must be able to choose someone he thinks can work best in the environment he has created no matter what the qualifications are, otherwise we may as well have yet another govt. department allocating all jobs – which is what this decision is giving the HRCT the right to attempt to do.

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  14. Jack5 (5,137 comments) says:

    So now you apply for a job, and your rival applicants can access your CV. What happened to privacy?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/9781496/Failed-applicant-allowed-to-view-CVs-of-others

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  15. Jack5 (5,137 comments) says:

    Judith at 8.11 raises the question of China’s position on Russia v Ukraine.

    This gives a pointer:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/27/us-ukraine-crisis-china-idUSBREA1Q06J20140227

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  16. flipper (4,083 comments) says:

    Pete George (21,442 comments) says:

    March 3rd, 2014 at 8:06 am

    Yesterday’s Mojo Mathers story is very odd, with the primary question asked not being answered, nor has whoever initiated the story been revealed.
    ******

    This is a typical red melon scam, with all the media sycophants coming to their aid.

    If Mathers wants to do a silly little community radio station at HER expense, fine.

    But I object to her travelling 800ks to Masterton and back at my expense.

    She is nothing g bit a list MP….and NOW the story seems to be following the Brown pattern where the whistle-blower becomes the target.

    The truly sad thing is that the silly media children allow Mathers so much slack.

    And is it not curious that the red melons played the sympathy card over “special equipment” at Parliament for Mathers. The dilly Greens put her on their list. The voters did not “elect” her, but we are now expected to pay for her special problems..

    Get lost with that scasm.

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  17. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    Can’t help get the feeling that politically mandated and dictated priorities are having disastorous consequences for the police.

    Here a serious assault is basically ignored by the police ,while had it been classified as ‘domestic” the perpetrator could have been expelled from his own home and the book thrown at him.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9781510/Police-shame-for-assaulted-teenager

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  18. iMP (2,387 comments) says:

    and WHY does a CV need to be private? Its a curriculum vitae for goodness sake, a shingle!

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  19. Sofia (858 comments) says:

    Will Cunliffe’s donations be revealed?
    For David this may kind of fuck up any Election campaigning use of the usual expression “TRUST ME!”

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  20. jackinabox (776 comments) says:

    “kowtow (6,423 comments) says:

    March 3rd, 2014 at 9:08 am

    Can’t help get the feeling that politically mandated and dictated priorities are having disastorous consequences for the police.

    Here a serious assault is basically ignored by the police ,while had it been classified as ‘domestic” the perpetrator could have been expelled from his own home and the book thrown at him.”

    Same happened to me kowtow, TWICE and by the same “perp” and the dirty f!@#king cops said they never happened.

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  21. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    jackinabox

    Was your case a “domestic”?

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  22. flipper (4,083 comments) says:

    kowtow (6,423 comments) says:

    March 3rd, 2014 at 9:08 am

    Can’t help get the feeling that politically mandated and dictated priorities are having disastorous consequences for the police.
    ***********

    Mnnnnnn…..
    Not a good look. There seems to be more attention devoted to 4 kph speeders than to crime.

    And then there is the appointment of Bush as Commissioner.
    Wow … the NZ Herald has gangster slapped him on his stupid Hutton/Thomas comments.

    The Herald also back-handed Tolley et al with spikes that will really hurt when Bush sits at his new desk.

    If Bush is smart – the presumption is that he can read, write and listen – he will make it his first duty on taking office to visit Arthur Thomas and apologise in person. He cannot right other Police orchestrated judicial injustices, but he can put a stop to the perpetuation of fiction. .

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  23. wiseowl (899 comments) says:

    I believe age discrimination especially for those over 50 when applying for jobs is very real and probably much greater than many believe.
    I agree that employers should be able to choose who they want but the rules we have now distort the whole scene.
    There seems to be a bias has developed toward hiring females and any race other than kiwi.It,s all PC bs that pervades and the loser is society as it ditches the experience and wisdom of the great white hard working down to earth common sense sensible kiwi male.

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  24. ShawnLH (5,285 comments) says:

    Oh Andrie. flights of fantasy again,

    “And that when you insight disorder to topple a Government that doesn’t go along with what Washington wants”

    Bullshit. The rigged elections that brought Russia’s puppet to power were opposed by most Ukrainians. It was the Ukrainian people who toppled Putin’s glove puppet, and now that fascist nutjob is going to invade a sovereign country that refuses to be bullied by him.

    When are Russians going to learn that they do not have some divine right to every country on their border?

    Putin is a bully and a coward. He knows the US has a weak Pres now, thanks to the liberal-left. He would not dare move against the Ukraine if a Republican was in power.

    Still, this will come back to destroy him and Russia, sooner or later.

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  25. ShawnLH (5,285 comments) says:

    Is Putin’s Russia Fascist?

    http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/inside-track-is-putins-russia-fascist-1888

    Here is the evidence:

    “Its democratic institutions are at best moribund, having been transformed into pliant tools of the Kremlin;
    civil society and the press have been severely circumscribed, in a manner that approximates Hitler’s Gleichschaltung (or coordination) of society in 1933-1934;

    representatives of the military and secret police-the siloviki-dominate all ruling elites and suffuse them with their antidemocratic ethos;

    the state promotes capitalism while making sure to control its strategic heights by means of controlling key industries, especially in energy, defense, mining, and manufacturing;

    the Russian state is unabashedly glorified to the point of representing a genuine fetish;

    Vladimir Putin is the undisputed leader, and his image exudes vigor, youth, and manliness;

    a variety of rabidly pro-Putin youth groups act as the vanguard of the state;

    the population overwhelmingly supports Putin, and has done so since he assumed the presidency;

    hypernationalism, a growing mistrust of both internal and external foreigners, and a corresponding glorification of Russia’s past (including its criminal Stalinist period) and present are the official worldview;

    Russia has taken to asserting its “rightful” place in the sun by engaging in energy blackmail vis-à-vis Ukraine, Belarus, and the Baltic states, cyber-wars against Estonia, provocations against Georgia, Polar land grabs, and other forms of aggressive behavior.”

    Read the whole article. It’s author takes a detailed look at what constitutes fascism and compares that to Putin’s Russia.

    Putin is constructing a society and behaving towards Russia’s neighbors exactly as Hitler did in the 1930’s.

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  26. wikiriwhis business (4,019 comments) says:

    ShawnLH

    Outstanding post unfortunately wasted on this corprate vested blog

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  27. jackinabox (776 comments) says:

    “kowtow (6,424 comments) says:

    March 3rd, 2014 at 9:52 am

    jackinabox

    Was your case a “domestic”?”

    No.

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  28. Jack5 (5,137 comments) says:

    Imp asked at 9.24:

    WHY does a CV need to be private?

    Why does it need to be public? It’s part of negotiations between an individual and another individual or between an individual and a firm or organisation. If it was part of negotiations between two firms, there would likely be, or at least could be, agreement for parts of the information supplied to be confidential.

    Imp, you could ask equally why does anything need to be private?

    Rightly or wrongly, we have set up a privacy regime in NZ and institutions to enforce this. Why should CV documents be exempt from this at the whim of disgruntled job applicants?

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  29. ShawnLH (5,285 comments) says:

    Crimea and Punishment

    Vladimir Putin is miscalculating how easy it will be to control a Crimean mini-state.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/03/vladimir_putin_s_crimean_mistake_the_russian_president_is_miscalculating.html

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  30. ShawnLH (5,285 comments) says:

    Tymoshenko: Yanukovych stole election from Ukrainian people

    “From July 30 to Oct. 28, the most unfair elections in the history of the independent Ukraine were held.

    To admit that they were fair or partly fair, or that they were elections at all, means to tell all the people who corrupted voters in single-member constituencies, suppressed TVi and other independent channels; all the people who organized “carousels” and forged certificates of non-existent illnesses to rig home voting; to tell everyone who in front of video cameras threw in piles of ballot papers filled in by the same hand – the hand of the [Viktor] Yanukovych regime; to tell all the people who took decisions in the Central Election Commission to register false parties and use their resources to form subordinated election commissions; to tell all the people who distributed food packages and paid money in districts; to tell all these clear lawbreakers, including criminals: “Guys, you have done everything right, act like this in future, we’re ready to say black is white, evil is good, and the people who rigged ballot are honest politicians, because we are all in favor of political opportunism and political expediency and not of the truth and European values.”

    http://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/op-ed/tymoshenko-yanukovych-stole-election-from-ukrainian-people-315431.html

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  31. Fletch (6,408 comments) says:

    The attack in China – hate to say I told you so, but….

    After knife-wielding “terrorists” launched a “premeditated” attack at the Kunming Railway Station, killing at least 29 and injuring over 130, Chinese officials blame militants from Xinjiang and say those responsible will face the “severe punishment of the law”.

    “This brutal attack on defenceless, innocent people by violent terrorists devoid of conscience exposes their inhuman and anti-social nature,” Xinhua quoted security chief Meng Jianzhu as saying.

    “They inevitably will face the severe punishment of the law. We must mobilise all resources and adopt all means to break this case,” Mr Meng said, echoing comments made by Chinese President Xi Jinping.

    [...]

    It also marked a major escalation in the simmering unrest that had centred on Xinjiang, a heavily Muslim region in China’s far west strategically located on the borders of Central Asia.

    It is the first time people from Xinjiang have been blamed for carrying out such a large-scale attack so far from their homeland, and follows a smaller incident in Beijing’s Tiananmen Square in October that shook the Communist Party leadership.

    China stepped up security in Xinjiang after a vehicle ploughed into tourists on the edge of Tiananmen Square, killing the three people in the car and two bystanders. China labelled it a suicide attack by militants from Xinjiang.

    Xinjiang is home to the Muslim Uighur people, many of whom chafe at Chinese restrictions on their culture and religion.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10670735/Chinas-security-chief-vows-justice-after-terror-attack-in-train-station-leaves-at-least-29-dead.html

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/462634/China-blames-Muslim-militants-for-train-station-knife-attack-which-left-29-dead

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  32. labrator (1,850 comments) says:

    Once again the police blame speed and not speeding in the hope no one will notice. You can’t have vehicle accidents if they’re all stationary. NZH: Speed behind biker deaths, say police.

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  33. wikiriwhis business (4,019 comments) says:

    “US President Barack Obama has spoken to Putin, telling the Russian leader he had already broken international laws.”

    The US has completely destablisied the Middle east for their own profit and they blame Russia for breaking international laws.

    Putin does not bring this state of affairs to US attention ?

    There’s a game being played here. At the cost of millions of lives. Perhaps a generation more as John McCain would have it

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  34. ShawnLH (5,285 comments) says:

    Putin Now a Hero for Fascists of Europe

    http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.com/2013/09/window-on-eurasia-putin-now-hero-for.html

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  35. mandk (998 comments) says:

    This is really bad news …

    ( … for lefties who rejoice in economic misery)

    Stats NZ announced today that our Terms of Trade are at the highest since 1973, and export volumes are the highest since the series began in 1990.

    http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/economic_indicators/prices_indexes/OverseasTradeIndexesPrices_MRDec13qtr.aspx

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  36. ShawnLH (5,285 comments) says:

    Two articles from Libertarian sources.

    Vladimir Putin: The Biggest Loser in Sochi and Ukraine:

    “one thing is already clear: the past two weeks’ biggest loser is Russian president Vladimir Putin, whose rout in Ukraine has further soured the already dubious triumph of the Sochi Olympics. It is almost a storybook tale of hubris, humiliation, and poetic justice.

    It is important to remember that the 2004-2005 “Orange Revolution” in Ukraine (its name derived from the ribbons worn by protesters in the huge demonstrations that led to Yanukovych’s first ouster, forcing a revote after he stole an election) played a key role in shaping Putin’s attitudes. The spectacle of his ally’s downfall caused him to become far more hostile to domestic dissent and far more paranoid about foreign threats.

    In the official lingo of the Kremlin and its loyalists, “orange” became a generic term for subversive movements supposedly created and manipulated by Western powers for the purpose of installing friendly regimes. It is very likely that Putin and the Putinistas sincerely believe their own propaganda: the idea that people would spend days camping out on a square in the bitter cold simply because they are outraged by election fraud simply does not compute in their thoroughly cynical minds, so the alternative explanation must be that someone is paying them off. (That “someone,” of course, is the perfidious West, and Uncle Sam in particular.)

    http://reason.com/archives/2014/03/01/vladimir-putin-the-biggest-loser-in-soch

    Unlawfulness of Russian Invasion of Ukraine:

    “Russian president Putin puts himself and his country above the law. He invaded Georgia in 2008 and now he puts his hands on Ukraine. Who will be next?”

    http://the-libertarian.co.uk/unlawfulness-russian-invasion-ukraine/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=unlawfulness-russian-invasion-ukraine

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  37. Longknives (4,764 comments) says:

    “The attack in China – hate to say I told you so”

    Fletch the TAB was paying $1.05 head to head on that one…

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  38. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Jack5 (4,066 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 9:06 am

    Thanks for the link, interesting article and quite thought provoking.

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  39. Andrei (2,664 comments) says:

    Vladimir Putin, whose rout in Ukraine has further soured the already dubious triumph of the Sochi Olympics. It is almost a storybook tale of hubris, humiliation, and poetic justice.

    Meanwhile back in the real world.

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  40. Jack5 (5,137 comments) says:

    Re M and K at 11.21 on NZ having best terms of trade since the 1970s.

    That is good news, but we still probably won’t break nearly 40 years of balance of payments deficits.

    When trade terms are peaking we still aren’t paying our way in the world!

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  41. Don the Kiwi (1,763 comments) says:

    Andre.

    Do I understand correctly, that Crimea has declared itself an independent autonomous republic – probably with ties to the Russian Federation?
    That’s how it sounded to me – they called the caretaker govt. in Kiev illegitimate did they not?

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  42. Elaycee (4,393 comments) says:

    So…. serial litigant, convicted blackmailer and fraudster Graham McCready is in the media again… this time he is to apply to the High Court in Wellington for an early release from his (second) bankruptcy. Why?

    He said: he was pursuing early release primarily so he could renew his relationship with his two adult daughters – aged 37 and 40 – who both live in Canada and who he has not seen for 20 years.

    But doesn’t the person looking after his financial affairs on behalf of the Office of the Official Assignee, have the ability to grant him permission to travel anyway? So why the application for an early release? Something isn’t quite right…

    Besides, Mr McCready could have a few (other) travel problems. Whilst a New Zealander can usually get a 6 month visitor visa for Canada, there is no automatic right of entry for people with criminal convictions. Especially for crimes that could have attracted a custodial sentence (such as fraud and blackmail). So I’d have thought an appeal for early release from his (second) bankruptcy, will be the least of his worries.

    If, of course, travel to Canada is his real agenda…

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/9781442/McCready-wants-out-of-bankruptcy-early

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  43. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    How’s that wonderful Arab Springy thingy goin’?

    It’s one thing to overthrow a dictator or to invade a country ,but when it comes to these heathens ,democracy just ain’t part of their culture,history and traditions.I’m amazed that some people seem to think Cameron,Hollande and Obummer are smart guys who know what they’re doing.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2014/03/injuries-as-protesters-storm-libya-parliament-20143220375426574.html

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  44. cha (4,036 comments) says:

    Europe is too weak to stop him, and Obama is too gutless and stupid to even know what to do.

    Perhaps he should do as dubya did during Vladimir’s wee Georgian adventure.

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  45. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ flipper (3,163 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 10:00 am

    I have a feeling that if Bush visited the Thomas household, he might find himself left standing on the doorstep unless he comes with evidence that the case has been reopened and reexamined as per Rochelle’s request … not some partial flicking through the same old papers.

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  46. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    Western “leaders” threatening sanctions against Russia.

    Let’s hope for a really mild spring in Europe then,cos them pesky Ruskies aren’t afraid to turn off the gas that keeps westerners and Ukrainians so warm and comfie .

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  47. ShawnLH (5,285 comments) says:

    Meanwhile, back in the real world, as opposed to the world inhabited by apologists for Russian fascism….

    What is awaiting the people of the Ukraine?

    Russian war crimes and massacre of Georgian civilians in Abkhazia and South Ossetia

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  48. cha (4,036 comments) says:

    Thing is kowtow those pesky gas exports from Siberia that are crucial to the Russian economy are routed through Ukraine.

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  49. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    cha

    That’s right ,the Ukies go cold first.

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  50. ShawnLH (5,285 comments) says:

    Ukraine mobilizes troops after Russia’s ‘declaration of war’

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/02/world/europe/ukraine-politics/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

    Kerry rebukes Russia’s ‘incredible act of aggression’ in move into Ukraine

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/03/02/kerry-rebukes-russias-incredible-act-of-aggression-in-move-into-ukraine/?hpt=hp_t1

    “The G8 plus some others and all of them, every single one of them are prepared to go to the hilt in order to isolate Russia with respect to this invasion,”

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  51. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,752 comments) says:

    David Cameron is ready and willing to double UK voters gas and electric bills overnight for solidarity with the Ukraine. No one in the UK ever, ever raised even the remotest concern about energy prices :roll:

    We don’t need no stinking coal-fired power stations. We got windmills you know.

    General Winter is David Cameron’s secret weapon for getting reelected in 2015. Every extra penny a UK voter pays over the 2014/2015 winter is another step towards victory for the Conservatives in the UK.

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  52. Weihana (4,557 comments) says:

    ShawnLH (161 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 10:22 am

    Putin is a bully and a coward. He knows the US has a weak Pres now, thanks to the liberal-left. He would not dare move against the Ukraine if a Republican was in power.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_South_Ossetia_war

    Pretty sure Russia attacked Georgia while Dubya was president. Perhaps the whole world doesn’t revolve around who sits in the White House.

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  53. stephieboy (3,163 comments) says:

    Andrei, you seem to be totally oblivious that your beloved RT is totally controlled by Putin and the Kremlin.I believe the Ukrainian Naval Commander is obviously a Fifth Columnist and could never imagine him saying otherwise.

    Also appreciate your feed back on Shawn LH re massacre of Georgian civilians. Am sure RT or V of R would have provided coverage you’d might think ?
    Yes.?

    Following on from Kerry’s rebuke of Russia’s ” incredible act of aggression”, I’d like to see the US enforce a naval blockade on the Bosporus and enforce a no fly zone over the North Eastern med re Syria.
    As a start.!

    Gas and Oil.? Let the Kremlin switch off a vital income stream for the Russian economy and see how long it lasts.!

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  54. Ross12 (1,432 comments) says:

    http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/21787743/labour-will-make-rena-owners-pay-for-clean-up-cunliffe/

    I bet some of the local recreational fishermen and divers ( & possibly some iwi) will not agree with Cunliffe on this one. they all know ship wrecks can be a magnet for fish , over time.

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  55. Weihana (4,557 comments) says:

    Jack5 (4,067 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 11:02 am

    Why should CV documents be exempt from this at the whim of disgruntled job applicants?

    From the Privacy Act:

    Section 2:

    “personal information means information about an identifiable individual…”

    Section 6: Information Privacy Principles

    Principle 10
    Limits on use of personal information

    An agency that holds personal information that was obtained in connection with one purpose shall not use the information for any other purpose unless the agency believes, on reasonable grounds,—

    (f) that the information—

    (i) is used in a form in which the individual concerned is not identified; or

    From the Stuff article:

    Mr Waters has said he does not need personal names or addresses and agreed to sign a confidentiality agreement.

    Where is the privacy breach?

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  56. stephieboy (3,163 comments) says:

    wikiriwhis business (2,989 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 11:14 am

    When did the US actually destabilize the Middle East for its own profit.??

    Do remember the US imports relatively little oil from the Middle East ,relying instead on its own production, Western Hemisphere ( Mexico, Venezuela , Brazil, Canada ) and Nigeria.

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  57. dirty harry (502 comments) says:

    Essential reading here on how we are all going to get further rorted by the brown mafia in NZ

    http://1law4all.kiwi.nz/2014/03/02/1law4all-shines-floodlights-on-legalised-corruption/

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  58. Weihana (4,557 comments) says:

    Judith (4,962 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 8:11 am

    @ Don the Kiwi (1,259 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 8:05 am

    Unfortunately the U.S.A is limited by money and resource. Russia is sitting on vast amounts of natural resources, not to mentions tons of diamonds, more than anyone else, and has nicely trained its population not to expect too much from it. With the stroke of a pen they could do serious damage to the world’s economy, and virtually cripple the US.

    Russia is a 2-3 trillion dollar economy. The USA is 16-17 trillion. “Virtually cripple” the US sounds rather hyperbolic. Russia could not do any harm to the US without hurting itself to a far greater degree.

    It wouldn’t matter who the president was, they are in a very precarious position. Many residents of the U.S.A are no longer prepared to see so much money poured into the defence budget … it will be interesting to see where this goes.

    I agree it doesn’t matter who the US president is, but not that they are in a precarious position. It is Russia that is making the tough choices, not the West.

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  59. Weihana (4,557 comments) says:

    Judith (4,962 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 8:11 am

    …and has nicely trained its population not to expect too much from it

    I should add that not getting very much from their economy is precisely why the USSR no longer exists.

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  60. wikiriwhis business (4,019 comments) says:

    “I agree it doesn’t matter who the US president is”

    It would matter if the president wasn’t a puppet of Wall St.

    That’s why Kennedy got assassinated. He was the last real and elected president.

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  61. wikiriwhis business (4,019 comments) says:

    “I should add that not getting very much from their economy is precisely why the USSR no longer exists.”

    The US will no longer exist for exactly the same reasons.

    17 T income – 20T plus deficit plus interst.

    The borrower is the slave to the lender.

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  62. gander (91 comments) says:

    Weihana (4,307 comments) says

    . . .

    Mr Waters has said he does not need personal names or addresses and agreed to sign a confidentiality agreement.

    Where is the privacy breach?

    ===

    You could take my name and demographics out of my CV and any employer in my field would need about 30 seconds to determine that it was mine. I reckon I’m not unique in that respect.

    Suppose I don’t want my current employer or some other potential employer to know that I’ve applied for a position?

    There’s the privacy breach.

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  63. wikiriwhis business (4,019 comments) says:

    “Do remember the US imports relatively little oil from the Middle East ,relying instead on its own production, Western Hemisphere ( Mexico, Venezuela , Brazil, Canada ) and Nigeria.”

    And yet, the ME is completely distabilised and where central Banks did not exist, ie Libya, they now do have Central Banks to have their economies manipulated. Hence the wests chronic unemployment and inflation.

    Only three nations now have no central bank – Iran, North Korea and Cuba. All on the US hit list.

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  64. wikiriwhis business (4,019 comments) says:

    “Pretty sure Russia attacked Georgia while Dubya was president. Perhaps the whole world doesn’t revolve around who sits in the White House.”

    does Georgia have oil and if so would Russia have let the US in Georgia if it did

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  65. wikiriwhis business (4,019 comments) says:

    “Andrei, you seem to be totally oblivious that your beloved RT is totally controlled by Putin and the Kremlin”

    But Max keiser on RT is not controlled by Putin.

    He is though banned in the US – home of the free

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  66. Weihana (4,557 comments) says:

    gander (75 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 2:03 pm

    You could take my name and demographics out of my CV and any employer in my field would need about 30 seconds to determine that it was mine. I reckon I’m not unique in that respect.

    Suppose I don’t want my current employer or some other potential employer to know that I’ve applied for a position?

    Fair point. Though in this case the individual has agreed to a confidentiality agreement and I’m not aware that it has been established in this case that individuals would thus be identifiable by the use of the information in this way.

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  67. wikiriwhis business (4,019 comments) says:

    ““The G8 plus some others and all of them, every single one of them are prepared to go to the hilt in order to isolate Russia with respect to this invasion,”

    And drive oil prices up with it and destabilise the dollar bringing chaos to economies as economic sabotuers creating pre war Germany conditions and buildorder out of chaos. Their order. Their New world Order stated by VP J Biden officially last year. you tubed. originally spoken of by Bush 1 in the 90’s.

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  68. Weihana (4,557 comments) says:

    wikiriwhis business (2,995 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 2:01 pm

    “I should add that not getting very much from their economy is precisely why the USSR no longer exists.”

    The US will no longer exist for exactly the same reasons.

    17 T income – 20T plus deficit plus interst.

    The borrower is the slave to the lender.

    Public debt is not the same thing as a budget deficit. Public debt is about 101% of GDP.

    The deficit is 680 billion (2013).

    The United States had similar levels of public debt after WW2. In my view the imminent problem is not debt but a middle class increasingly unable to participate effectively in the economy to provide the consumer demand that the economy requires to grow.

    The recent economic crisis should have justified more public spending on infrastructure projects that are labour-intensive and underfunded anyway, and also should have justified an increasingly wealthy elite contributing more to a society which is increasingly unequal in its distribution of income.

    Of course that’s “socialism” so it’s bad… but bailing out the banks and other big players (the ones with lobbyists) is okay. :)

    edit: just re-read your post and apologies I think you were saying public debt plus deficit plus interest rather than saying the deficit was 20T.

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  69. stephieboy (3,163 comments) says:

    wikiriwhis business (2,998 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    “It would matter if the president wasn’t a puppet of Wall St.

    That’s why Kennedy got assassinated. He was the last real and elected president”

    Utter bollux.!

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  70. emmess (1,428 comments) says:

    Andrei in 1989: Stop vandalizing that wall, fascists

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  71. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    I’m confident the slave movie will pick up a few Oscars.

    It’s imperative that the white be reminded about how cruel he is.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2014/03/film-12-years-slave-eyes-best-movie-oscar-201432232523836151.html

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  72. Weihana (4,557 comments) says:

    kowtow (6,433 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 2:37 pm

    I’m confident the slave movie will pick up a few Oscars.

    It’s imperative that the white be reminded about how cruel he is.

    I’m white and I didn’t identify with the slave owners. :)

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  73. big bruv (13,929 comments) says:

    Not sure if anybody else has mentioned this but rumours are rife that a certain ex NZ rugby player is in trouble again for behaviour while drinking.

    So, cue Bereal and co rushing to defend the thug.

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  74. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    Doesn’t matter who you identify with.

    It’s about engendering a sense of collective guilt.

    If yo white ,yo guilty.

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  75. Scott Chris (6,150 comments) says:

    Where is the privacy breach?

    Hmm, interesting philosophical question. I’m of the opinion that it is a privacy breach because your work history, interests and skills are several facets of what makes you a unique individual, just as do your name and address.

    With regard to the 62 year old in question – I understand that he was formally employed for a couple of decades by the company with whom he is now in dispute and resigned in 2008 so no doubt they are very familiar with his qualities as a person – and perhaps that is why they chose not to re-employ him.

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  76. stephieboy (3,163 comments) says:

    kowtow and do keep reminding us how good slavery was for the Blacks.?

    Time to gather forth the funds for own your pro slavery movie.?

    White and your Guilty.?

    Bollux. Only a neurotic or paranoid like you might feel like that

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  77. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    stephie boy

    I did not say slavery was good for the blacks. You’re making stuff up.

    However now that you mention it…….

    It must have paid well for the blacks in Africa who seized other blacks for trade to Arabs and then down the coast to those evil whites.

    I’ve seen it said that the US descendants of the slaves are arguably better off in said United States than if they were still in west Africa.

    Strange though how so many Africans do want flee to the west, it being such a cruel place for non whites.

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  78. Weihana (4,557 comments) says:

    kowtow (6,434 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    Doesn’t matter who you identify with.

    It’s about engendering a sense of collective guilt.

    I don’t feel guilty. Do you? Has someone accused you recently of owning slaves?

    I also note many of my ancestors are German. I don’t feel guilty when I watch a holocaust movie either.

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  79. Weihana (4,557 comments) says:

    kowtow (6,435 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    …evil whites…

    Spoiler alert: the protagonist regains his freedom by having one white guy deliver a message to another white guy who then comes and rescues him. I’m not sure where in this plot you derived “all white men are evil”.

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  80. cha (4,036 comments) says:

    If the slaves were white…

    In the 12 year period during and following the Confederation revolt, from 1641 to 1652, over 550,000 Irish were killed by the English and 300,000 were sold as slaves, as the Irish population of Ireland fell from 1,466,000 to 616,000. Banished soldiers were not allowed to take their wives and children with them, and naturally, the same for those sold as slaves. The result was a growing population of homeless women and children, who being a public nuisance, were likewise rounded up and sold. But the worse was yet to come.

    http://www.kavanaghfamily.com/articles/2003/20030618jfc.htm

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  81. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,752 comments) says:

    12 years a slave.

    But American has already entered its 13th year of “police action” in Afghanistan.

    PS When was the last time the USA actually won a war? I got Grenada 1983.

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  82. stephieboy (3,163 comments) says:

    kowtow (6,435 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    You see behind the facade and pretense a glorious rationalization for enslaving the blacks and keeping them down.
    With a dose of bogus history to boot.!

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  83. cha (4,036 comments) says:

    The Act of Killing, a film where Sukarno’s thugs re-enact their crimes, is up for best documentary this year.

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  84. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    Bogus history.

    That’s what it’s all about these days. All cultures are equal but some cultures are more equal than others. And those are the ones that will be rammed down yo guilty white neck.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world-war-1/461684/Outrage-as-rise-of-Islam-tops-the-World-Wars-in-teacher-priorities

    weihana,German ancestors and you don’t feel guilty?Well you should ,it’s national policy in Germany.

    spoiler alert.

    We all know it was the white man who freed the slaves.But that matters not.We must be reminded that slaves were held and we are guilty.

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  85. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    cha

    Cromwell is a national hero in England and yet he was a genocidal maniac.

    White genocide is acceptable.

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  86. cha (4,036 comments) says:

    Synopsis from The Act of Killing site:

    Anwar Congo and his friends have been dancing their way through musical numbers, twisting arms in film noir gangster scenes, and galloping across prairies as yodelling cowboys. Their foray into filmmaking is being celebrated in the media and debated on television, even though Anwar Congo and his friends are mass murderers.

    Medan, Indonesia. When the government of Indonesia was overthrown by the military in 1965, Anwar and his friends were promoted from small-time gangsters who sold movie theatre tickets on the black market to death squad leaders. They helped the army kill more than one million alleged communists, ethnic Chinese, and intellectuals in less than a year. As the executioner for the most notorious death squad in his city, Anwar himself killed hundreds of people with his own hands.

    Today, Anwar is revered as a founding father of a right-wing paramilitary organization that grew out of the death squads. The organization is so powerful that its leaders include government ministers, and they are happy to boast about everything from corruption and election rigging to acts of genocide.

    The Act of Killing is about killers who have won, and the sort of society they have built. Unlike ageing Nazis or Rwandan génocidaires, Anwar and his friends have not been forced by history to admit they participated in crimes against humanity. Instead, they have written their own triumphant history, becoming role models for millions of young paramilitaries. The Act of Killing is a journey into the memories and imaginations of the perpetrators, offering insight into the minds of mass killers. And The Act of Killing is a nightmarish vision of a frighteningly banal culture of impunity in which killers can joke about crimes against humanity on television chat shows, and celebrate moral disaster with the ease and grace of a soft shoe dance number.

    A Love of Cinema. In their youth, Anwar and his friends spent their lives at the movies, for they were “movie theatre gangsters”: they controlled a black market in tickets, while using the cinema as a base of operations for more serious crimes. In 1965, the army recruited them to form death squads because they had a proven capacity for violence, and they hated the communists for boycotting American films – the most popular (and profitable) in the cinemas. Anwar and his friends were devoted fans of James Dean, John Wayne, and Victor Mature. They explicitly fashioned themselves and their methods of murder after their Hollywood idols. And coming out of the midnight show, they felt “just like gangsters who stepped off the screen”. In this heady mood, they strolled across the boulevard to their office and killed their nightly quota of prisoners. Borrowing his technique from a mafia movie, Anwar preferred to strangle his victims with wire.

    In The Act of Killing, Anwar and his friends agree to tell us the story of the killings. But their idea of being in a movie is not to provide testimony for a documentary: they want to star in the kind of films they most love from their days scalping tickets at the cinemas. We seize this opportunity to expose how a regime that was founded on crimes against humanity, yet has never been held accountable, would project itself into history.

    And so we challenge Anwar and his friends to develop fiction scenes about their experience of the killings, adapted to their favorite film genres – gangster, western, musical. They write the scripts. They play themselves. And they play their victims.

    Their fiction filmmaking process provides the film’s dramatic arc, and their film sets become safe spaces to challenge them about what they did. Some of Anwar’s friends realize that the killings were wrong. Others worry about the consequence of the story on their public image. Younger members of the paramilitary movement argue that they should boast about the horror of the massacres, because their terrifying and threatening force is the basis of their power today. As opinions diverge, the atmosphere on set grows tense. The edifice of genocide as a “patriotic struggle”, with Anwar and his friends as its heroes, begins to sway and crack.

    Most dramatically, the filmmaking process catalyzes an unexpected emotional journey for Anwar, from arrogance to regret as he confronts, for the first time in his life, the full implications of what he’s done. As Anwar’s fragile conscience is threatened by the pressure to remain a hero, The Act of Killing presents a gripping conflict between moral imagination and moral catastrophe.

    http://theactofkilling.com/synops/

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  87. Weihana (4,557 comments) says:

    kowtow (6,437 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    We all know it was the white man who freed the slaves.

    So you are against collective guilt… but okay with collective credit?

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  88. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    Credit or guilt?

    It is the intent behind the narrative that counts.

    These days it’s usually cultural marxism.

    With no shortage of useful idiots along for the ride.

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  89. wikiriwhis business (4,019 comments) says:

    Retaliation threats against Russia ‘empty’

    Despite blunt warnings about costs and consequences, President Barack Obama and European leaders have limited options for retaliating against Russia’s military intervention in Ukraine, the former Soviet republic now at the centre of an emerging conflict between East and West.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has so far dismissed the few specific threats from the United States, which include scrapping plans for Obama to attend an international summit in Russia this summer and cutting off trade talks sought by Moscow.

    Because Ukraine does not have full-member status in NATO, the US and Europe have no obligation to come to its defense.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/9780625/Retaliation-threats-against-Russia-empty

    Just an excuse for fuel companies to raise prices because they peepee all over our diinutuve govt.

    I’m sure most MP’s bemoan not being oil execs!

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  90. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    Best Actress……bingo!

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  91. wikiriwhis business (4,019 comments) says:

    Ambassador summoned, FTA on hold

    New Zealand has put a free trade deal with Russia on hold after it deployed troops to Ukraine, Prime Minister John Key says.

    Key also scrapped plans to visit Moscow this month. He has ordered Trade Minister Tim Groser, who is in Russia working on the trade pact, to leave tonight.

    And Foreign Minister Murray McCully has called in Russian ambassador Valery Tereshchenko to relay the Government’s disapproval.

    Key said it was not appropriate for Russia to deploy troops in Crimea.

    The FTA had been close to being concluded, Key said.

    “I don’t think this would be the right time for us to be signing an FTA if there was one of the table today,” he said.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9784942/Ambassador-summoned-FTA-on-hold

    What a joke. Key is not interested in an FTA with Russia. TPP or bust.

    And having FTA’s internationally, why push for the TPP. Because the TPP is more about state surveillance than trade.

    NZ will become a communist state overnight under the TPP. Secrecy !!

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  92. wikiriwhis business (4,019 comments) says:

    Degrees no longer a ‘golden ticket’

    In the past, a degree from such institutions promised a “golden ticket” to employment virtually anywhere the graduate desired.

    On a lesser scale, there has been a persistent mentality in New Zealand that a degree-holder will be rewarded with meaningful, well-paid work, albeit not necessarily with their “dream employer”.

    But considering how many now university graduates – even from reputable institutions – struggle in today’s labour market, is the sense of prestige attached to university institutions justified?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/9783623/Degrees-no-longer-a-golden-ticket

    Get a job Kiwibloggers complain

    yeah right

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  93. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    If it’s good enough for “Tojo” then let’s free Banksie and let him run down Lecher Len for Auckland’s mayoralty. This disgusting Brown is getting too much support from media, time more effective protests were made . . . along with the obese German thief, he must go!

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  94. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ wikiriwhis business (3,005 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    A basic degree can no longer be considered a good qualification. My advice to students is only do the degree if you have previous work experience, and so the degree is an added bonus, or do the degree if you are intending to go further.

    A Masters will get you a job, or an honours degree maybe.

    A PhD however is too much. It won’t get you a job unless its as an academic. No boss wants a employee better qualified than him/herself. If you are planning on being self employed/contracting etc PhD is good.

    So its a Masters, or degree and work experience that I advise. A degree will leave you will a $20,000 student loan, and possibly no employment prospects, other than starting with the minimum wage.

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  95. Harriet (4,975 comments) says:

    Some degrees are now just ‘certification’to employers, like the stuff an electrician would be expected to hold to get a job.

    It is wrong, as kids now have to have $20K worth of debt to get a minimum wage job interview – when in the past they would have been trained on the job for most things.

    Those in education don’t care as the more ‘certification’ that is asked for by employers – then the more that the likes of polytecs and 2nd tier unis will provide.

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  96. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    Best picture.

    Bingo!

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  97. thedavincimode (6,800 comments) says:

    Judith’s facile comments are so generalised and wide of the mark as to be completely pointless and evidence a complete lack of understanding of what employers across a wide range of technical skillsets are looking for.

    I would suggest that anyone thinking of a career in a particular field ignore Judith’s advice and speak to people who do know what they are talking about, including employers in your preferred field of interest. If you are undecided about exactly what you want to do, but have an interest in any technical discipline, study courses that provide options and are able to be cross-credited for different degree paths. That is generally easier at stage 1 level and gets progressively more difficult as you progress. Conjoint degrees can be another way of doing this eg Law/Commerce, Science/Commerce. But whatever you do, don’t drift along through a degree path without resolving what you want to do and the opportunities that are likely to await you.

    Avoid courses in aromatherapy and nasal inhalation unless you’re planning to be a green parliamentarian, and political science unless you want to wind up like Phil Goff or appear on Dancing With The Stars.

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  98. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ thedavincimode (5,976 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    You didn’t read the article that had been quoted, did you?
    That article does not support your assertions.

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  99. nasska (11,580 comments) says:

    Unless a young bloke has a well thought out career path involving one of the hard sciences they should forget varsity & do anything necessary to get themselves accepted into an apprenticeship.

    I’ve yet to see a qualified tradie lined up with the jobseekers at McDonalds.

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  100. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    So Key has told Putin to get his troops out of the Ukrain – I bet that’s got Putin shaking in his boots!

    Do we actually have any tanks that work?

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  101. Tauhei Notts (1,724 comments) says:

    The Education Industry has sucked in far too many young New Zealanders.
    They have pocketed the dough while the young ripped off people are now saddled with dreadful student loans.
    Those in the Education Industry have no shame.

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  102. thedavincimode (6,800 comments) says:

    I should have added that the choice of tertiary institution is also important – employers will have prejudices about this. And if you are lazy academically, get un-lazy quick because the competition is hot. If your academic background is weak through being lazy, you should think seriously about spending a year revising so that you can hit tertiary up and running. Speak to tertiary tutors about what in particular you should work on. If you’re academic record isn’t strong through no lack of effort, don’t undertake tertiary education just because your mates are off there. Be honest with yourself in trying to work out whether you should do it.

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  103. Graham Sharpe (6 comments) says:

    Is there any truth in the rumour that Helen Clark is about to step down from her UN poat and return to Wellington to join Matt McCarten in David Cunliffe’s office?

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  104. Viking2 (11,488 comments) says:

    After hearing that one of the patients in a mental hospital had saved another from a suicide attempt by pulling him out of a bathtub, the hospital director reviewed the rescuer’s file and called him into his office.

    “Mr. Haroldson, your records and your heroic behavior indicate that you’re ready to go home. I’m only sorry that the man you saved later killed himself with a rope around the neck.”

    “Oh, he didn’t kill himself,” Mr. Haroldson replied. “I hung him up to dry.”

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  105. Longknives (4,764 comments) says:

    “A basic degree can no longer be considered a good qualification.”
    “A Masters will get you a job, or an honours degree maybe.
    A PhD however is too much.”

    I have never heard such utter bullshit in my entire life (or at least since the last Bain thread..)
    I have a humble Bachelors Degree and I hate to break it to you but I’m not flipping burgers Judith…
    Sure there are Degrees that are a waste of time but your sweeping generalisation is insulting, arrogant and ill-informed.

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  106. Viking2 (11,488 comments) says:

    Visiting China, it is not safe to drink the water, the produce is pretty dodgy and they are sending a lot of the food here
    Posted in Rural News March 3, 2014 – 04:59pm, Jeff Smith
    A resident of Sihoupo tends to his vegetable garden.

    The steady increase in cheap food imports is a threat not only to local producers but also to our health … if reports from China are to be believed.

    We imported $31.7 million worth of processed fruit and vegetables last year and the bulk of this was from China. At the same time we exported $100 million worth.

    The imports included frozen vegetable products, canned fruit and asparagus.

    There was also $10.8 million worth of “fresh” fruit from China up from $7.1 million in 2009. This included lots of pears and from 2010 grapes.

    Then there was of course the garlic under the fresh vegetable category worth almost $20 million.

    Last year a report by China’s national broadcaster CCTV detailed the manufacturing process followed by 16 companies that sell preserved fruit.

    If you have just eaten a can of peaches imported from China it would pay not to read any further.

    “Rotten peaches pickled in outdoor pools surrounded by garbage are spiked with sodium metabisulfite to keep the fruit looking fresh and with bleaching agents and additives harmful to the human liver and kidneys. The peaches are packed in uncleaned bags that previously held animal feed and then shipped off to big-brands stores,” according to the New York Times.
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    Toxic preserved fruit is the latest item on China’s expanding list of unsafe food products. Baby formula adulterated with melamine is the best known, but there is also meat containing the banned steroid clenbuterol, rice contaminated with cadmium, noodles flavored with ink and paraffin, mushrooms treated with fluorescent bleach and cooking oil recycled from street gutters.

    China grows half of the world’s vegetables and almost 20% of its fruit.

    China’s people consume most of its produce, but an increasing share is being exported to New Zealand, Australia, the United States, Europe, and the rest of the world.

    One of the biggest problems with eating Chinese fruit and vegetables is the rising risk of ingesting one of any number of highly toxic heavy metals, including mercury, lead, and the cadmium. In fact, according to China’s own Ministry of Land and Resources, more than 10% of China’s arable land has already been contaminated by heavy metal detritus from China’s factories, mines, smelters, and power plants.

    A second major health issue is the exceedingly high levels of pesticide residues often found in Chinese produce.

    As documented in the Journal of Environmental Toxicology and Chemistry, the underlying problem is the tendency for China’s farmers to overuse pesticides in an effort to boost their meager crop yields. As a result, the FDA has had to reject Chinese agricultural products ranging from ginseng and frozen red raspberry crumble to mushrooms.

    Der Spiegel recently reported that China’s farmers no longer eat the same foods that they sell.

    Zhou Li, a lecturer at Beijing’s Renmin University who studies food safety, told the newspaper farmers were now aware of the harmful effects of pesticides, fertilizers, hormones and antibiotics. They still produced a portion of their farm products for the market and a portion for their own families.

    The only difference was that the food for their families was produced using traditional methods.

    In fact, many wealthy Chinese have bought their own farms so as not to be dependent on what’s available in supermarkets.

    There were also reports of special plots of land used to produce food exclusively for senior government officials.

    People concerned

    The Chinese people themselves are becoming increasingly concerned about what is happening in their country.

    Air pollution has just been recorded at the end of last year as the worst in 52 years.

    And this week a $330 billion battle to tackle water pollution got underway.

    Figures just released showed the state of drinking water was a worry for more than 80% of citizens, the second biggest concern behind smog (90%) and over 80% say they have real concerns about China’s environmental problems.

    The government recently announced tiered water charges to encourage people to use less water.

    A six-month campaign against major industrial polluters is due to start later this month.

    http://www.interest.co.nz/rural-news/68758/visiting-china-it-not-safe-drink-water-produce-pretty-dodgy-and-they-are-sending-lo

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  107. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Longknives (3,975 comments) says:
    March 3rd, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    I am presuming you are older than in your early 20’s… I was talking about young people today, in reply to the person above my comment, and about the article they had posted a link to, which says similar thing.

    Sure it was different in the past, and degrees opened doors, but they don’t have the same effect today ..

    I suggest you get out there and talk to some of the young people who are unable to get good jobs with their degrees.

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  108. nasska (11,580 comments) says:

    I made a video of me speaking in Indian accent and uploaded it on Youtube.

    Next morning when I checked my email, I had job offers from twelve call centres.

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  109. Nostalgia-NZ (5,220 comments) says:

    LK

    ‘I have never heard such utter bullshit in my entire life (or at least since the last Bain thread..)’

    You don’t actually hear threads you read them, however I agree about your contributions to Bain threads being utter bullshit. I guess like others you have the need to keep bringing up the B word to try and re-explain your investment in fairy tales.

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  110. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    Best writing,Adapted Screenplay.
    Bingo.

    I’m appalled that a Pallywood movie ,Omar, didn’t win the foreign film category.God knows we shouldn’t let any opportunity to get the boot in on those darn israelis.

    And the academy have insulted Saint Nelson Mandela by not giving the best original song award to Ordinary love.

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  111. Ross12 (1,432 comments) says:

    longknives @ 7.46pm

    Judith has a point especially with her added comments at 8.05pm. In Australia now it is common to go onto Masters because you become more employable ( my son was flatting with an Architecture student who doing just that). Our son did an IT degree and tried for 2.5 years before he got a full time job. ( he did some short term and voluntary IT work during that time.)
    There businesses in Australia setup to help graduates become more employable ( they are rip off merchants) — not just helping write CVs but they get them into voluntary work to get work experience etc.
    As Judith says if you are say 30+ then it would have been easier when you graduated but that is certainly not the case now.

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  112. thedavincimode (6,800 comments) says:

    When mentioning the need to be careful about the choice of tertiary institution, I should also have advised that a life sentence at the University of Paremoremo should be avoided at all costs, if only for the benefit of the people whose demise has occasioned the attendance; eg nightclub patrons standing on the footpath. That said, life attendance doesn’t, sadly, mean that you attend for life.

    Judith’s anecdotal experience accords with my own. Kids who went to ‘varsity who were too lazy and/or unprepared / not smart enough to compete in the market / took bullshit courses. Basically went there as a consequence of parental or peer expectation or because they thought they had nothing better to do. I’m not sure how any rational person would interpret those circumstances as rendering a degree pointless but that is not to say that nobody would.

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  113. wiseowl (899 comments) says:

    Viking.
    Exactly.
    Meanwhile our producers/growers are put through the hoops in every way possible.

    Our sprays now are like weasel piss and the compliance costs to meet export standards for countries like China are forcing people out of production.
    Free trade, yeah right.

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  114. thedavincimode (6,800 comments) says:

    ross 12

    Architecture is a good example of a discipline that has limited opportunity/payback. Unless you’re Frank Lloyd Wright, the risk/reward dynamics aren’t great. If your son was a good scholar, then maybe you’ve identified another discipline where risk/reward is dodgy. One of the biggest parts of thinking about what you do is the market for what you want to do. I’m not suggesting that is easy at all with degree lead times – that’s one of the problems – employer demand can be volatile.

    eg, because of Christchurch, we are going to need more civil engineers for the next 20 years.

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  115. Nostalgia-NZ (5,220 comments) says:

    ‘Architecture is a good example of a discipline’ so is being full of crap and letting in out in small increments.

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  116. thedavincimode (6,800 comments) says:

    so is being full of crap and letting in out in small increments.

    A very insightful observation Nosty. Hopefully, Judith will take your comment on board.

    I can see that time thinking about whether it was safe to bend over to pick up the soap has certainly paid off in terms of your observation skills.

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  117. cha (4,036 comments) says:

    A poem.

    The Parable of the Old Man and the Young

    So Abram rose, and clave the wood, and went,
    And took the fire with him, and a knife.
    And as they sojourned both of them together,
    Isaac the first-born spake and said, My Father,
    Behold the preparations, fire and iron,
    But where the lamb for this burnt-offering?
    Then Abram bound the youth with belts and straps,
    and builded parapets and trenches there,
    And stretchèd forth the knife to slay his son.
    When lo! an angel called him out of heaven,
    Saying, Lay not thy hand upon the lad,
    Neither do anything to him. Behold,
    A ram, caught in a thicket by its horns;
    Offer the Ram of Pride instead of him.

    But the old man would not so, but slew his son,
    And half the seed of Europe, one by one.

    Wilfred Owen

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  118. nasska (11,580 comments) says:

    A little bloke, after nine years in Pare, would probably have an arse like the sleeve of a wizards cloak Davinci. :)

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  119. Nostalgia-NZ (5,220 comments) says:

    The addition of one gutless wonder to another, zero with zero, still equals zero.

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  120. thedavincimode (6,800 comments) says:

    I expect so nasska. I understand that’s where they keep all the really useful stuff.

    nosty

    Couldn’t agree more. So remind me who the driver was?

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  121. Manolo (13,837 comments) says:

    To delight Stephieboy, staunch feminist and Obama lover: http://www.westernjournalism.com/harvard-law-review-bio-obama-born-kenya/

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  122. Ross12 (1,432 comments) says:

    thedavincimode

    My comments were not meant to imply I think degrees are a waste of time. I’m just saying that Judith’s comments were not rubbish.
    Further to what I said above –the IT industry says they have a shortage of skills but it is quite common for a job adv. to say,
    even for junior positions, ” no graduates”. So the young people are stuck between a “rock and hard place” because to get on in the market they need the experience the employers are asking for.
    I agree with your comment that there are too many “rubbish” degrees on offer.

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  123. thedavincimode (6,800 comments) says:

    ross12

    I take your point about entry into IT. But to extrapolate a market circumstance into the type of assertions Judith made is just silly. Degrees as such ceased to be a meal ticket in the 1960s – the notion that having a BA was somehow in itself is long dead.

    The commercialisation of education has seen an exponential increase in the number of students and completely bullshit degrees. The fact that “graduates” in political studies, women’s affairs, communications, journalism can’t get jobs outside the liebour party is because they are bullshit degrees with limited marketability. That, and the fact that the employment market is so competitive are the reasons kids don’t get jobs. The employment market is so competitive because business is so competitive and employers hiring graduates want the cream of the crop with relevant qualifications. Asserting that degrees generally are intrinsically less valuable, or that a Masters or PhD is intrinsically more or less valuable or pointless is just facile.

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