General Debate 6 March 2014

March 6th, 2014 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. duggledog (1,620 comments) says:

    Morning Labour Party!

    Say, before you begin your day flailing around in that self-created quicksand you love so much, a quick thought from me.

    National has out-Laboured you. Their slogan going into this election could well be: ‘Labour, But Done Properly. And National’

    You need a better leader. I can’t think of anyone off the top of my head, but hey best of luck.

    That is all.

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  2. iMP (2,455 comments) says:

    First election debate tonight with several leaders. Should be a fascinating opening salvo.

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  3. stigie (1,439 comments) says:

    Getting gifted great news is good for us righty’s and New Zealand.

    No need to say anymore really !~

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  4. Harriet (5,200 comments) says:

    C’mon, who’s gonna Crimea river today ? :cool:

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  5. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Harriet

    Good morning sunshine – that actually made me smile – you are in top form this morning!

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  6. Keeping Stock (9,373 comments) says:

    Not content with screwing his mistress in the Ngati Whatua room, Len Brown now wants to screw all Aucklanders by imposing an “income tax” on them to raise money to pay for all his daft spending ideas. Is he nuts?

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2014/03/thatll-go-down-like-lead-balloon.html

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  7. duggledog (1,620 comments) says:

    iMP

    Where and when is this debate please. I have ample popcorn, sweet and savoury

    Harriet

    Nice

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  8. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  9. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    “Tojo” Cunliffe is whinging on about being maligned by media. He is not being singled out, they are in a position where they can no longer ignore the actions of this pathetic, dishonest, and incapable loser. I also take exception to the fat weirdo from Wgtn Central attempting to cover his leader’s arse by waffling on about Judith Collins’ promoting of NZ products in China . . . he is still sitting in his rainbow haven with Alf awaiting Cunliffe’s demise, but he is wasting his time, when “Tojo” gets dumped they will need Jones as he is “straighter” with a real wife and family. This is a party in disarray with too many rival factions, many with disgusting agendas, and that has come through in opposition, imagine if they were in Government!

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  10. martinh (1,272 comments) says:

    Anyone else thinking the mischief aint here now and these are just bland pre written national party bloggs

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  11. Scott Chris (6,178 comments) says:

    Yup, people who run around with guns for a living shouldn’t have to be drug tested :?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9795219/Army-winds-down-its-drug-testing

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  12. stigie (1,439 comments) says:

    You are being silly again Judith…!

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  13. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Judith: You waffle the same old Labour-based crap. You are Labour, have always been Labour, and will trot off and vote for the weirdos on election day as you have done for a lifetime. I find it strange you can use a computer, your ilk being entrenched in the past.

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  14. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Scott Chris (5,627 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 8:19 am

    I disagree – strongly. Anyone, including our police force that has access to weapons should be drug tested and regularly – I include in that all registered gun owners (license holders).

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  15. stephieboy (3,519 comments) says:

    This from Brian Edwards blog , Sept 2013 on the accension of David Cunniliffe , ” …and why John Key’s days are numbered ”

    http://brianedwardsmedia.co.nz/2013/09/congratulations-david-and-karen-from-brian-and-judy-and-why-john-keys-days-are-numbered/

    LOL.!

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  16. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ igm (604 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 8:23 am

    Goes to show you know shit all, doesn’t it. I have voted labour 3 times in my life. The vast majority of times up until the last twenty years I always voted National. I voted for John Key the first time he ran for PM – stupidly. The other times (I am 56 years old) I have voted for various minority parties. Until 1995 I was actually a member of the National party – my family are mostly smurfs, including 3 ex MP’s – so suck eggs Igm – it never pays to assume!

    PS the fact that you are stupid enough to make such a broad statement against someone you don’t know and have only seen post on the internet, indicates what a complete air head you are – not wonder you are a John Key supporter!

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  17. kowtow (8,936 comments) says:

    igm
    I was listening to Radio Aotearoa, sorry Radio New Zealand this 8 am , and I could have sworn it was also “waffle the same old Labour crap”……..disguised as feedback and “news”.

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  18. All_on_Red (1,742 comments) says:

    igm
    She sure is an opinionated and patronising old trout with a propensity to constantly make shit up. So yeah, Labour through and through.

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  19. bhudson (4,741 comments) says:

    Or the Council could stop spending so much!

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9796451/Browns-bold-tax-plan

    (Len’s plan to get his train set a little earlier, I suspect.)

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  20. stephieboy (3,519 comments) says:

    Judith, I wonder if your aversion to National could have something to do with the other Judith.?

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  21. JMS (368 comments) says:

    Len Brown now wants to screw all Aucklanders by imposing an “income tax” on them to raise money to pay for all his daft spending ideas. Is he nuts?

    Not nuts.
    Just bad, he’s a socialist.

    Edit: Oops, just remembered the face-slapping thing, so yes he’s bad, and nuts.

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  22. kowtow (8,936 comments) says:

    judith

    You’re full of the proverbial.

    Licensed gun owners know the law will be very heavy on them for infringements and the last thing one wants is to lose ones licence…….

    Pity the same can’t be said about so many licenced vehicle drivers who are ,in terms of fatalities and serious injuries, a much greater danger to the general public than licensed fire arms holders.

    How about anyone with access to a vehicle needs regular drug testing?

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  23. bhudson (4,741 comments) says:

    @KS,

    I didn’t notice you had already called out Len’s little plan. I should have known you would have been onto that one quick smart.

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  24. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ All_on_Red (830 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 8:29 am

    Another air head – they say people that see liars all around them, tend to judge from their own habits.

    The fact is Red, you wouldn’t know, and have no way of knowing, – so stupid statements like that, simply confirm your stupidity.

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  25. CHFR (241 comments) says:

    Good to see the king of the Maoris getting us such great international publicity…muppet

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/harrymount/100073668/memo-to-king-of-the-maoris-if-you-want-to-look-grand-act-humble/

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  26. kowtow (8,936 comments) says:

    judith votes on the basis of a silly students silly opinion of Colin Craig……

    …..who gave these airheads the vote?

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  27. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ kowtow (6,452 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 8:35 am

    I agree with you, a vehicle is a far greater and accessible ‘weapon’ than any gun – and there is always the argument that those you are most dangerous with weapons, are never licensed anyway.

    BUT – the army, and the police have had incidents where their members have been involved with illicit drugs – particularly the army. Therefore, I stand by my statement – weapon possession needs to be taken seriously in a society where illicit drugs are so readily available and drug taking such a widely practiced behaviour.

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  28. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Stephie: The “other” Judith is a capable and successful lady . . . the one here is a silly incompetent old trout, out of control.

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  29. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ kowtow (6,453 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 8:39 am

    Oh dear, can you be anymore pathetic? I simply stated what one of the students said, I had already decided where I stood before that… you really are getting very desperate aren’t you? Do you actually think through those kind of bullying statements before you make them, or do you just pull them out of thin air or your butt?

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  30. All_on_Red (1,742 comments) says:

    I see you don’t deny making shit up Judith. You are Labour, but fair enough, it’s probably very embarrassing to admit it given recent events.
    Hypocrite too

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  31. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ stephieboy (652 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 8:32 am

    Well she is certainly no shining star in my mind – I would be very reluctant to support her as leader, but it is my hopes that Gerry would be the holder of the next top position when it becomes vacant – hopefully sooner rather than later. I think he is an excellent statesman and just what this country needs – and would soon sort out the Nepotism etc that the ‘other Judith’ likes to partake in.

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  32. Harriet (5,200 comments) says:

    “…….I am a tall male trapped in a short male’s body.

    Does that give me the right to list my height as 6 feet five inches tall on my driver’s license? Can I deceive the police like that?

    This is evidence of a deep mental disturbance, something that should be obvious, but will be ignored by authorities.

    The problem is that there just aren’t enough evil bigots running around to victimize all the people whose melodramatic personal identities center around being a victim of evil bigots, the vast majority of whom exist solely in some victim fetishist’s head.

    The problem with this attention getting strategy is that when it involves false accusations towards specific people and not some nebulous group, it can lead to real prosecutions and real ostracizing of people who are innocent.

    Enough of this campy, crybaby nonsense….”

    Whining sexual exhibition disorder. :cool:

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  33. All_on_Red (1,742 comments) says:

    Judith,
    Showing your ignorance again. The common thread of gun rampages in the US is a high dependence on prescription drugs and not “illegal” drugs. But hey, you’re just making shit up again.
    God I can just imagine you in a classroom pontificating and loving the sound of your own voice. Poor poor students.

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  34. Ed Snack (1,939 comments) says:

    To get away from the local scene and the petty arguments over who is a dyed in the wool labour voter or not, I see that ‘ol lame duck Obama has failed to get his hand-picked nominee for the Dept of Justice Civil Rights division confirmed; and this AFTER Harry Reid invoked the “nuclear option” by disallowing filibusters against nominees. The democrats even had Biden standing by to cast the deciding vote should it be tied but 8 democrat senators flipped and Debo Adegbile was not confirmed. Just how lame can you get and barely a year into his second term. I can well believe that Americans are suffering a bad case of “buyers remorse” over re-electing this turkey.

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  35. Keeping Stock (9,373 comments) says:

    @igm – I suspect Judith’s dislike of John Key stems from the fact that Key is reluctant to worship at the Altar of St DavidB, and hasn’t offered Joe Karam a high list placing and the chance to become Attorney-General :P

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  36. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ All_on_Red (831 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 8:45 am

    I could deny it all I like, but for what reason – as I pointed out – you have no way of knowing whether it was the truth or not, which is why stupid statements like yours, only prove what an absolute idiot you are. This is the internet sunshine – I admit in later years I am more centre/left than right – but I can assure you, I am not a member of any political party now, and have no affiliation or support any one of them.

    It is rather sad that you tend to judge people by your own standards though Red. Does your judgement indicate that you are merely a mule and following the agenda? I think so… but then do I care or even want to know … hell no – your comments come across as so deluded on here its really rather pathetic -

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  37. lilman (973 comments) says:

    Judith I forgive you,after all your thought process says to you David Bain is a fine up standing person ,coupled with the fact you wont vote for Key because you cant stand this Horrible man.
    As I said I forgive you simply because you have lived a long and harsh life based on the belief that you are above the rank and file with an cutting mind that can filter truth from fiction,lies from truth.
    Oh! you are a woman as well.

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  38. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Keeping Stock (9,639 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 8:49 am

    Now that is hilarious because I just said to my colleague here, which one of these idiots do you think will be first to bring up Bain – and there we go, it was you!!

    Really funny! Congratulations, you make the biggest ‘W’ of the day award! When you have to revert to my support of David Bain being innocent to win an argument KS, you can bet you’ve already lost it!

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  39. All_on_Red (1,742 comments) says:

    Getting under your skin are we Judith. Insults coming fast now.
    Btw, your own words say you voted for Labour 3 times but that’s ok, we all know you forget about the patronising shit you say. It’s pathetic really.
    Do you talk down to your students too?

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  40. lilman (973 comments) says:

    You actually work with someone,in the same office ! I bet their day just gets better and better.
    PS cleaning ladies are paid to clean.

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  41. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ All_on_Red (832 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 8:48 am

    Prescription drugs – yes, but illegally sourced and taken Red – you should check your facts before you give them.

    I don’t teach in a classroom Red – again it pays not to ‘assume’ :-)

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  42. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ lilman (636 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 8:58 am

    Oh dear, that was your best shot? Poor you!

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  43. Bovver (173 comments) says:

    I know I shouldn’t but I’m starting to feel a little sorry for the Labour Party, having the Dear Leader is taking away the focus from any policy they may wish to share with the public, the problem with a weak opposition is it could give Nat’s a feeling of complacency.

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  44. All_on_Red (1,742 comments) says:

    Lilman
    You’re right, there is pattern with Judith that she thinks her opinion is above the rank and file. But do you notice she never provides links or evidence to back up any of the bullshit she says?

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  45. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ All_on_Red (833 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 8:56 am

    Red, you have spent the last few minutes talking down to me and being insulting, but when you get it in return, you complain and don’t like it. Is there something in the rules that say its alright for you and your team of ‘little men’ to do, but I’m not allowed to respond in like?

    No you aren’t getting to me at all – I actually find it quite stimulating and funny to see how ‘defensive’ you all are when your poster boy is criticised – nothing like a but of ‘man love’ and ‘boy crush’ to bring out the beast in a guy – aye?

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  46. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ All_on_Red (834 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 9:01 am

    Oh no, now you’ve extended your capabilities to mind reading over the internet ! Excellent – now you can tell what I think!

    You want me to give links to what, are you not capable of sourcing and using google or some other search programme to seek information – and why should I give links – I don’t see you doing the same to your statements? Or are you like your ‘leader’ a great supporter of double standards?

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  47. flipper (4,328 comments) says:

    Judith…

    On many issues you are sensible, and I agree with you. On some issues on which you clearly have detailed knowledge, you lead the way.

    But it would enlighten me, and most other folks here, if you were to detail the reasons for your position in John Key.

    Most of the vitriol and outlandish assertions I see poured/made/stated by others is, as someone you know of famously said: “An orchestrated litany of lies.”

    At the moment, in most areas, but for the moment anyway, confined to political sophistry, I detect a run away leader in the “Liar stakes”, and it “ain’t John Philip Key”. :-)

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  48. All_on_Red (1,742 comments) says:

    Judith
    “Prescription drugs – yes, but illegally sourced and taken Red – you should check your facts before you give them.”
    Oh really. Care to back that up with some links? Of course you won’t- and can’t. You are so arrogant and patronising you think we should just accept what you say, yet your track record is one of just constant bullshit.

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  49. lilman (973 comments) says:

    Yes that was my best shot.
    Sad to think you say you are rational and you converse with your work mates but yet you hate Key ,love David and the people stuck with you all day will laugh at others post,but secretly we know Judith.,we know.
    Now,coffee and 2 sugars,quickly now ,or your not going to be able to get the tea trolly to the next floor in time.

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  50. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ All_on_Red (835 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 9:06 am

    You make a statement that they are prescription drugs – you failed to provide any backing support in the way of a link or any such reference and then you have the cheek to call me out and say I’m ‘arrogant and patronising’ because I didn’t?

    You REALLY REALLY need to check those double standards of yours Red.

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  51. All_on_Red (1,742 comments) says:

    Judith
    I’m not complaining, just putting into words what many of us clearly think about you. 5008 posts! Btw, who is ” my leader”?
    As for reading my mind over the internet- self projection much?

    Must go, off fishing with my son.

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  52. Paulus (2,707 comments) says:

    Len Brown is copying Margaret Thatcher’s “Poll Tax”.

    Actually a good idea – but not in screaming New Zealand, but Auckland – well anybody who elected Liar Brown get what they deserve.

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  53. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ flipper (3,176 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 9:06 am

    I worked with John Key on a particular issue before he was leader of National. In that process he made several statements regarding his beliefs on a certain issue, that encouraged me to think he was a great guy and shared similar values over the issue that I did (I’m not prepared to give details of what that was because it would identify me and you know my reasons for protecting that).

    The fact is that in his second term, ( I voted for him first time round) he did a back flip on what he had said and so I no longer have confidence in him. I am of the opinion he simply told us what we wanted to hear to get us on side initially – and I don’t respect those sorts of games. It could be that initially he was being true to his own beliefs, and then once leader had to go with the consensus of his party – (which I accept was probably the case) but either way, it no longer endears me too him.

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  54. thedavincimode (6,890 comments) says:

    Why is everyone picking on Nursey?

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  55. kowtow (8,936 comments) says:

    drug test the cops and army….

    parental authority hang up

    bullying statements…..

    talking down…..

    being insulting…..

    Bingo

    Judith does gender studies.(aka cultural marxism)

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  56. thedavincimode (6,890 comments) says:

    The fact that pants down brown is attempting to justify his dodo tax policy on the basis of elderly not being able to afford his rates, when in fact the real solution is to stop spending pissing money up against the wall ands reduce the rates, is a pretty good indicator of just how stupid he thinks the people who voted for him are. And he would be right.

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  57. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    lilman (637 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 9:08 am

    Firstly, no one is ‘stuck’ with me all day – again you assume because I spoke to a colleague that we are in the same space all day long. Dear oh dear!!

    And as for you little put down over cleaners, I am not a cleaner, but I have no problem giving them the respect they deserve. Its not a job I would want to do, but just think about it for a minute – they are one of the most important parts of any industry. Can you imagine for one minute how long a hospital would continue to run, if the cleaners failed to do their job correctly?

    Your denigration of cleaners clearly defines you -

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  58. Scott (1,807 comments) says:

    Just caught this headline –

    “Nigerian Islamists burn students alive to discourage education Militants with Boko Haram set fire to the dorm, and shot and slit the throats of students who tried to escape through windows during a pre-dawn attack Feb. 25. Many were burned alive.
    They “slaughtered them like sheep” with machetes, and gunned down those who ran away, said one teacher, Adamu Garba.”

    Isn’t the religion of peace wonderful?

    http://www.worldmag.com/2014/03/islamists_burn_students_alive_to_discourage_education

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  59. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ kowtow (6,454 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 9:15 am

    Wrong again – I do not do gender studies, never have! The Ass is strong in you, isn’t it?

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  60. Scott (1,807 comments) says:

    But some people at least are fighting back –

    “Australian Liberty Alliance, backed by anti-Islam Dutch MP Geert Wilders, set for launch
    In a Youtube message, Mr Wilders said he would visit Perth next year to help launch the Australian Liberty Alliance, which he described as a freedom party. “Many of you are disappointed with current political parties and have had enough of politicians who sell out western civilisation,” he said.”

    Some of us have certainly had enough of politicians who sell out Western civilisation.

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  61. kowtow (8,936 comments) says:

    My maoribullshittometre has just gone off the scale ,again.

    If it’s maori it’s special……and the fuckers don’t even know what the things actually are ,but have decided they’re real special.

    And since when should the debt ridden Dunedin ratepayer be buying shit that’s significant to someone else.They want it,they buy it.

    http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/294040/mayor-stops-leg-irons-sale

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  62. martinh (1,272 comments) says:

    Gees Gerry did well on National Radio, National Radio should watch out what decrepid idiots they put on that are misleading listeners.
    Good one Gerry for not losing your cool, i would of with them

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  63. Scott Chris (6,178 comments) says:

    Yeah, Pant-Down-Brown wants to introduce local government income tax to take some of the burden off us poor old property owners, what, with no capital gains tax and record low interest rates and rapidly appreciating property values. Not to mention the availability of rates rebates for people who earn under a certain amount, or reverse mortgages to free up bound equity.

    Oh the suffering!

    (Hint Judith: sometimes yeah means nah with regard to this post and my earlier one about guns)

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  64. Harriet (5,200 comments) says:

    “……Colin Craig – as one of my students said yesterday, “vote for Craig and its a vote for hetero-sexual male dominance” – so he won’t be getting my vote….”

    LOL – National won’t turnover to a party of 5-10%.

    What are you really scared of Judith? Is it that you don’t want to listen to the commonsense Conservative arguement? Are you that scared of it Judith? Really?

    If you were a true smart liberal progressive woman Judith, then you would embrace the liberal idea of putting forward arguements and critiquing them, and if liberalism is then so robust and perfect, then the liberal arguement should hold true and win.

    Why do you no longer have faith in Labour’s smart liberal progressive women discussing matters in open forum Judith?

    Have they failed your idea of female ability Judith? Are progressive female Labour MP’s really that pathetic?

    Are they really that scared of Mr Craig? :cool:

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  65. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Is it true that old crow Judith is a failed admirer of Lecher Len?

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  66. RightNow (7,014 comments) says:

    I think you all should ease up on Judith. She’s got compulsive commenting disorder and you’re all enabling her. I’m sure she actually has some work that she should be doing if she could just ignore Kiwiblog for a while.

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  67. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Harriet (3,750 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 9:53 am

    Scared of Colin Craig? Now there is an interesting concept – I’m sorry, but I can’t take him seriously. I don’t think Craig has the balls to be a serious politician, his action against the Leprechaun leader proves that.

    @ igm

    A failed admirer of Lecher Len? You are kidding. That bottom groping fool deserves all he gets, the only comments I’ve made about him succeeding or rather keeping his position are because there is no way to get rid of him (none that are legal anyway).

    Nice to see you doing your best to demean me though – I suggest you give up – I’m not here to win friends and influence people – I simply like reading the blog and commenting as a good means to take a break from work (and before you waste time coming back with the ol’ ripping off the employer by using the internet crap – I am a self employed contractor – I work on my own time and equipment! I will say though – some of what I do is funded by your tax dollars – thank you very much for that :-)

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  68. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ RightNow (6,174 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 10:20 am

    Nope, if I was compulsive, I would be here all the time, and I’m not. There are times when I don’t come near here for months on end. It just so happens that things are slow at the moment, and I have more time than usual. I have to admit though, I do love the way you all bite. As long as you are picking on me, you’re leaving the political left alone !! :-)

    I mean just look at this thread… normally by now it would have been full of comments about Norman and Cunliffe, and maybe even a pinch of Winnie, instead this morning they’ve been ignored. A great way to interpret the propaganda machine, don’t you think?

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  69. Harriet (5,200 comments) says:

    “…..Scared of Colin Craig? Now there is an interesting concept – I’m sorry, but I can’t take him seriously. I don’t think Craig has the balls to be a serious politician, his action against the Leprechaun leader proves that….”

    You did say this previously:

    “…..Colin Craig – as one of my students said yesterday, “vote for Craig and its a vote for hetero-sexual male dominance” – so he won’t be getting my vote….”

    Nearly all women are scared of hetrosexual male dominance Judith. And rightfully so – and you would be no differant Judith!

    Looks to me like you are just making it all up as you go Judith.

    Much like Dear Leader is. :cool:

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  70. dime (10,212 comments) says:

    “……Colin Craig – as one of my students said yesterday, “vote for Craig and its a vote for hetero-sexual male dominance” – so he won’t be getting my vote….”

    BAHAHAHAHAHA

    and wouldnt that be terrible!

    what we really need is an inclusive government. by inclusive we mean 50% + female (80% female is ok) and 30%+ fags. cause umm heaps of people are gay. at least 10%. honest. its not 2% at all. 1 in 10 people are gay.

    we need increasing special rights to make the gays equal. ya see, only by giving gays MORE rights that straight people will they gain equality. same goes for women, maori, pasifika, etc etc

    wouldnt it just be easier to take away rights of white straight males and leave everyone else how they are now?

    Freaks.

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  71. Tauhei Notts (1,687 comments) says:

    Judith,
    In amongst all the crap you write here, there is one particular gem; Your post at 9.14 a.m.
    Your comment then so closely resembled a pub discussion with a friend, who had dealings with John Key before 2008, that it was uncanny.

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  72. thedavincimode (6,890 comments) says:

    Is there a better example of the Kenyan’s hypocrisy and buffoonery than his response to the Crimea?

    What did he really expect Putin’s response would be? Putin was confronted with what was nothing more than a pro-West revolution usurping a democratically elected President in a neighbouring country that was of huge strategic importance to Russia both economically (the pipelines to the West) and militarily (the port) and that had the potential to put at risk a sector of the population with traditional Russian relationships and sympathies. Add to that the Western stirring of the pot and the prospect that the West might subsequently establish a military presence in the Ukraine, What would the US expect of their President in such circumstances? What if the roles had been reversed and Mexico became the US’s Crimea?

    If big ears had wanted some insight into Putin’s likely response, then he had to look no further than the US’s own responses to the Russian missile bases in Cuba (the small matter of a drop dead threat of nuclear war), Grenada and Panama; all examples of strategic threats to the US and to the safety of its citizens – a nice spot of hypocrisy

    Add another bucket-load of hypocrisy in the form of the US response to the Russian invasion of Afghanistan (another neighbour) followed by the subsequent US lead invasion of Afghanistan (a non-neighbour) when it suited the US.

    Add a credibility vacuum by threatening “consequences” after big ears sat on his hands watching his Libyan embassy get ransacked and his ambassador being murdered.

    US foreign policy is a shambles and their shit-stirring is biting them in arse big time. Instead of trying to broker some outcome that would address the real threats to Russia’s strategic interests, he leans back, assumes the pose and threatens “consequences”. Once again, the fool Obama makes Putin look like a leader, and in the process further undermines US interests and credibility in the Middle East.

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  73. Rowan (2,604 comments) says:

    Judith
    Yes Key and National have there problems but at the moment they are the best of a bad lot and I’d rather have Key as PM than the arrogant idiotic Cunliffe, Just think how much damage Labour could do if they and the Greens were able to form a coalition. Some of the recent idiotic proposals (business taxes and pot etc) will probably ensure that they are not a threat this time around.

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  74. dime (10,212 comments) says:

    “I am of the opinion he simply told us what we wanted to hear to get us on side initially – and I don’t respect those sorts of games.”

    LMAO you wouldnt see wussel/winston or cunliffe pulling that shit

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  75. Longknives (4,953 comments) says:

    Enjoy this crazed woman ranting on about how evil White males are- The most blatantly racist and sexist thing I have read for a while..

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11214525

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  76. Rowan (2,604 comments) says:

    The election will be a bit like the recent chch mayoral election (which I didn’t bother voting in), Ms Dalziel was the best of a bad bunch, I’d far rather still have Bob in charge.

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  77. ShawnLH (6,611 comments) says:

    “US foreign policy is a shambles and their shit-stirring is biting them in arse big time

    Change that to “Russian foreign policy is a shambles and their shit-stirring in Georgia, the Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Chechnya, and many other countries is biting them in the arse big time” and this would have been an accurate statement. As it is it just mindlessly repeats Kremlin propaganda.

    Do you get paid to do that?

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  78. dime (10,212 comments) says:

    Longknives – “or non-Pakeha person ” – i guess that sounds less racist than a “non-white”.

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  79. Paulus (2,707 comments) says:

    Judith – Got get a job, and stop trolling all day.

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  80. kowtow (8,936 comments) says:

    I suppose this is what Obummer considers a thaw in relations with the mad mullahs.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/03/iran-announces-missile-breakthrough-201435145446818812.html

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  81. thedavincimode (6,890 comments) says:

    Shawn

    The comment was directed at Obama/the US and the fact that Obama is making Putin look good.

    Only a complete fuckwit would interpret those remarks as a ringing endorsement of Russian foreign policy and it appears that you have.

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  82. freemark (651 comments) says:

    Judith referred to comments Craig has apparently made that would make Norman’s comments re: women in the kitchen non-libellious. Which comments were they Judith? I hope you are not filling your students’ heads with bullshit..otherwise it’s easy to see and label you as just another Socialist Educator (indoctrinator).

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  83. ShawnLH (6,611 comments) says:

    “It was directed at Obama/the Us”

    And it was wrong. Citing “shit-stirring” by the US is bullshit. The only shit-stirring has been by Putin.

    And no, Obama, who I despise, is not making Putin look good. Putin looks like a deranged psychopathic nutjob. He actually manages to make Obama look good.

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  84. kowtow (8,936 comments) says:

    Longknives

    They’ll have to change the oath if they want police to “reach out particularly to women and Maori”.(It’s bad enough as it is at present)

    I’ve no doubt the day will come.

    In the meantime they’re sworn to serve “without favour or affection,malice or ill will.” As it should be.

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  85. ShawnLH (6,611 comments) says:

    John Key did make some mild noise before his first election win that suggested he would be more socially conservative than he has been, so I get Judith’s disappointment myself. That said, Key is a vastly, vastly better choice than a Cunliffe/Norman government, by a million freaking miles. So if the election looks like it will be much closer than polls suggest, I would still vote for Key just to keep the other lot out.

    And while I might have a lot of differences with Key on a lot of issues, he’s still a likable and decent bloke, something I cannot say about anyone on the opposition benches.

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  86. ShawnLH (6,611 comments) says:

    “hetero-sexual male dominance” is Cultural Marxist New-Speak for the natural order. ;)

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  87. stephieboy (3,519 comments) says:

    thedavinciimode,
    You make a number of false assertions.But one example is the Cuban Missile Crisis.This was resolved by the willingnes of both sides to listen, negotiate and compromise.The Soviets withdrew their missiles from Cuba and the US agreed to dismantle their nuclear silos in Turkey. A very basic fact of history..
    There is absolutely no evidence that the West or the US is trying to stir the pot in the Ukraine.But there is plenty of evidence that ex KGB Lt Colonel Putin , like Cunnilffe , is not what he appears to be .Am referring to the murder of whistle blowers and journalists by the FSB accounts of which you won’t see on RT or here on V of R or read in Pravda.
    For a reasoned,balance and interesting acoout of the crises go know further than Sergie Khrushchev ,son of the former Soviet leader ( Ukrainian ) Nikitia Khruschev

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/afternoons/audio/2587905/ukraine-commentator-professor-sergie-Khruschev

    It comes as know surprise that a bevvy Conpiracy Theorists are Attracted to to this crises like flies to a cow pat.

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  88. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,760 comments) says:

    Another day another leaked conversation.

    So many secrets.

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  89. publicwatchdog (3,124 comments) says:

    Is NZ Prime Minister John Key telling fibs?

    We shall see………………….

    FYI

    ________________________________________________________________________

    6 March 2014

    NZ Prime Minister
    John Key

    OPEN LETTER / OIA request – re: the alleged ‘conflict of interest’ of Minister of Justice Judith Collin’s perceived endorsement of Oravida milk.

    Dear Prime Minister,

    Please provide a copy of the advice purportedly provided by the Cabinet Office, upon which you are relying, which substantiates your following reported statement:

    Prime Minister John Key said the Cabinet Office “unequivocally .. said no there’s no breach.”

    Yours sincerely,

    Penny Bright
    ‘Anti-corruption / anti-privatisation Public Watchdog’

    …………………..

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11214597

    Collins told Oravida its milk was ‘nice’

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  90. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ freemark (288 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 11:16 am

    I do not, nor are allowed to give my political opinions to my students. What they state in open discussion up to them. The student concerned is a business studies student taking the paper as an elective. The discussion arose after someone bought up the issue of minority parties and their increasing power in New Zealand politics.

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  91. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ dime (8,500 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 11:03 am

    It is a sad fact of the times that they are all ‘pulling that shit’ – which is why I wouldn’t give my vote to any of them. As I said, it was installed in me as a young person to always vote. This year, unless there is some drastic change (which I very much doubt short of a miracle) I will be voting against, rather than for someone (and believe me I find that as flakey and difficult to accept as the rest of you – but that is the sad state of NZ politics I’m afraid).

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  92. kowtow (8,936 comments) says:

    OECD

    I listened to that leak.

    It would appear from that conversation the snipers who killed so many in Kiev shot at both sides.Both police and protesters.
    The new govt is not interested in investigating that!Ashton didn’t seem that concerned.

    Strongly implies the snipers were agents provoking the destabalisation of the legitimate govt.And the EU is unconcerned about mass murder and a coup in Kiev?

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  93. lilman (973 comments) says:

    Judith,lol, I am and have to clean up after myself,where did I denigrate the cleaners?
    I think you used your powers of deduction like you did for David and came up with the wrong premise.
    I was saying you were a coffee lady,and a poo.r one at that
    The fact that you have any input to any child makes me fearful for their longterm goals and aspirations.
    Now where’s that coffee?

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  94. Ed Snack (1,939 comments) says:

    Judith, your student is way out of date, you should remind them that the correct term is now cis-gendered hetero-normative white males. They also shows signs of reading too many newspapers and not thinking for themselves, though I doubt you can help them with that.

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  95. kowtow (8,936 comments) says:

    The treacherous “progressive” European media collude with the destruction of Europe and call for more oppression of honest free and open speech.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/islamophobic-hate-groups-become-more-prominent-in-germany-a-956801.html

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  96. kowtow (8,936 comments) says:

    judith is clearly not an English teacher.

    “…..someone bought up the issue….’

    There’s a difference between to bring and to buy.

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  97. freemark (651 comments) says:

    Thanks Judith, but as someone grammar nazi’d me here the other day I’ll pull the same..especially as, as kowtow states, you are clearly not an English Teacher. “I do not, nor are allowed to” If you are even considering voting Green or Labour you are surely not a Business Teacher either..:)
    But I am still interested on which of Craig’s comments you base your assertions that he is accurately labelled by Norman?
    Thanks

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  98. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ kowtow (6,464 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    I speak proper! (that is a joke in case you don’t get it) I type really fast – I just don’t type very well.

    Never made a mistake Kowtow or are you just in bully mode, happy to pick up on anything you can – one could almost be forgiven for thinking you are obsessed. But bullies are like that apparently – carry on sunshine – bigger fools than you have tried and failed.

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  99. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ freemark (289 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 1:23 pm

    I quoted what someone else said about Craig, if you are referring to the comment on Craig earlier.

    On other threads, the comments I don’t agree with regarding Craig are those he made about abortion and homosexuality. If you don’t know what they were, there are plenty of links on google that you can follow. I don’t waste my time looking for obvious links, to post as references, and I don’t need anyone’s approval so couldn’t care whether you don’t like the fact I don’t post a link or not.

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  100. stephieboy (3,519 comments) says:

    OECD ranked 22 kiwi,

    There are no secrets here. Liz Wahl Russia Today anchor resigns live ,disgusted at the way the Kremlin shamelessly manipulates and falsifies the news coming out of the Ukraine,

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/05/exclusive-rt-today-anchor-liz-wahl-explains-why-she-quit.html

    Most on the far left refuse to face the basic fact that RT is Kremlin (state ) controlled, censored and manipulated.

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  101. freemark (651 comments) says:

    Thanks Judith, but you specifically mentioned somewhere that you supported Norman’s comments regarding Craig’s attitude towards women (ie that they should be in the kitchen) and that was a reason you felt you could label him sexist or misogynist or something similar.
    I am genuinely interested in why you hold that attitude about him – I have been labelled these things before and I believe that they are often used highly dishonestly to play the man not the ball so to speak.

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  102. Gulag1917 (1,083 comments) says:

    The Psychological Profile of President Obama
    http://beforeitsnews.com/obama/2013/12/the-psychological-profile-of-president-obama-2458548.html

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  103. kowtow (8,936 comments) says:

    judith

    I stuff up my apostrophe’s all the time.

    But there’s a big difference ‘tween bought and brought.It’s a very common and very lazy speech affectation that a lot of folk do these days and it has now crossed over to how the word is spelled. I heard a barrister doing it on the radio the other day,standards really are falling.

    I’m not bullying either …..if you see all opposition and disagreement ,as well as a bit of fun , as bullying then you rally are a sensitive petal.

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  104. Tauhei Notts (1,687 comments) says:

    It’s General debate so I can post this. I wish I had the information technology skills to do a link, but I do not have those skills.
    The Ajuntament de Barcelona has signs on the streets saying;
    GRAFFITY
    SUCKS LIKE
    DEEP THROAT.
    Note the spelling. I think the Ajuntament is the Spanish term for the Barcelona City Council. Linda Lovelace, like Elvis, will never die.

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  105. Don the Kiwi (1,808 comments) says:

    Careful Judith.

    You’ll entice Johnboy to come on and want to pat you on the tush. ;-)

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  106. Andrei (2,653 comments) says:

    What a surprise eh OECD Kiwi, the snipers that undermined the peace deal were from the peaceful maidan protesters.

    Silly Western clods are finding out it is easy to break things – not so easy to put them back together again.

    You’ld think they’d have learned by now with Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Libya and Syria that their “color” revolutions and “spring” things do not lead to outbreaks of democracy, only to chaos and disorder.

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  107. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    rally are a sensitive petal.

    “Rally old chap’? Is that a high class english accent you have there!

    Hey, I spend most of my time laughing at what is said to me – so it will never get me down. I have no problem with being called names, I often introduce myself a ‘opinionated bitch at your service’ – the one thing that peeves me off though, is when people judge their entire opinion based on the fact that I think DB is innocent. I mean really (or rally) who basis their entire opinion of someone on one issue?

    I just get a little sick of the old boys club in here. If people don’t want alternative opinions to their own, then why have open membership. Anyone that comes here to have their back patted and be constantly agreed with, should really find an exclusive membership blog – as long as its open, you’re going to get people that disagree with you.

    The one thing I am is frank – if I’m wrong, I will admit it, and often have, but people seem to ‘miss’ those occasions.

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  108. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Don the Kiwi (1,265 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    Nah, it’s almost tupping time – he’ll be otherwise engaged. :-)

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  109. stephieboy (3,519 comments) says:

    Andrei,

    Russia wags the The Dog with Ukraine Disinformation campaign ,

    http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-big-lie-ukraine/25286568.html
    and whose really behind Synagogue attacks in Ukraine,

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/03/who-s-really-behind-ukraine-s-synagogue-attacks.html

    Did you follow up my previous post re Liz Wahl resigning from RT disgusted at Kremlin manipulations and distortions re Ukraine /???

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  110. Manolo (14,166 comments) says:

    P.G. assures me Colin was on board:
    http://travel.msn.co.nz/travelnews/8810003/pilot-told-cockpit-no-place-for-a-woman

    Being a female pilot in a male-dominated industry, Carey Stacey is used to sexist comments but nothing could have prepared her for the shocking note she received on Sunday.

    The message scrawled on a napkin addressed to the “captain”, began with the warning, “the cockpit of an airliner is no place for a woman”.

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  111. kowtow (8,936 comments) says:

    judith .You’re entitled to your opinion ,but how’s your cooking and ironing?

    Parallel parking,reversing a trailer?

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  112. Manolo (14,166 comments) says:

    To Stephieboy’s profound and bitter disappointment: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/05/fox-news-poll-obama-approval-hits-new-low-falls-in-key-areas/

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  113. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ kowtow

    Cooking… ok when I’m in the mood – great chocolate cake – scones would be better on the rim of a car wheel.

    Ironing? umm what’s that?

    Parallel parking – never used to be a problem until I bought (not brought) a VE commodore – was a nightmare as it was so high in the rear. Gladly traded it for a VF which has a reversing camera.

    Reversing a trailer – family has a farm – could reverse a tractor and trailer before I could drive a car – at 10 used to drive the truck to pick up hay too! Having said that, I can’t remember when I last reversed a trailer, so hopefully its like riding a bike and I haven’t forgotten how.

    Now how about you? How’s your lawnmowing, gardening, handyman skills and grip? Can you drop and give me 50? :-)

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  114. kowtow (8,936 comments) says:

    I could drop, but that would be all you get.

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  115. stephieboy (3,519 comments) says:

    No disappointments Manolo but the facts of political life. I would be interested to see how Fox conducted the poll and what solutions they and the far right Tea Party are offering in terms of viable solutions for the US economy .
    It will undoubtedly; be the usual libertarian drivel and dross about abolishing the Fed and DC etc .
    But one thing is for sure ,no president has received such intense critical scrutiny based on both the issue of his race and the utterly bogus and fraudulent Birther claims about ,” The Kenyan” etc.

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  116. kowtow (8,936 comments) says:

    What about the Mick catholic JFK?

    Romney got heaps of shit for being a Marmite.

    And by golly there was a lot of muck raking about GwB’s air natioanl guard AWolness,which in the end never amounted to anything.

    Obummer made/makes race an issue and his family are from kenya. In my book that makes you at least more than a little ‘Kenyan”.

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  117. stephieboy (3,519 comments) says:

    Kow tow, the facts are the JFK did get heaps for being Catholic ( Mick )and it helps to explain the very narrow margin between Nixon and him in the Presidential race . The narrowest ever.
    Obama does not make race an issue.!
    Its you,Manolo, Birthers etc you can’t stand the thought of a Black family being in the white house.!

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  118. Andrei (2,653 comments) says:

    stephieboy – you can post all the Russophobic links you like but it wont alter the facts that the USA has done something incredibly stupid in Eastern Europe, so fricken stupid it defies belief and potentially a lot of blood may be spilled.

    Now Vladimir Putin has acted, as he had to and thus far with remarkable restraint.

    What the hell does it matter if an American employee of a Russian TV channel gets her 15 minutes of fame by resigning during the count down to what maybe WW3?

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  119. goldnkiwi (1,612 comments) says:

    Judith (5,033 comments) says:

    March 6th, 2014 at 9:02 am

    @ All_on_Red (833 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 8:56 am

    Red, you have spent the last few minutes talking down to me and being insulting, but when you get it in return, you complain and don’t like it. Is there something in the rules that say its alright for you and your team of ‘little men’ to do, but I’m not allowed to respond in like?

    No you aren’t getting to me at all – I actually find it quite stimulating and funny to see how ‘defensive’ you all are when your poster boy is criticised – nothing like a but of ‘man love’ and ‘boy crush’ to bring out the beast in a guy – aye

    Freudian slip ;) “nothing like a but of ‘man love’ and ‘boy crush’ to bring out the beast in a guy – aye”

    I had to laugh about the bought and brought, then the reply to the rally (really), to then have included in that diatribe a basis instead of bases @2.26. Such fun lol. ;)

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  120. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ goldnkiwi (613 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    I am glad something made you laugh, I’m sure you probably laugh a lot – mostly at nothing. I do hope you’ve got some teeth now. Although if you do, they clearly don’t fit well, because your bite is as weak as ever.

    Again I am honored that with so many posts you troll through until you can find something of mine to comment on – obsessed much? In all the topics that there are to comment about – wow – you must have a very shallow mindset.

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  121. goldnkiwi (1,612 comments) says:

    Love pots, kettles and the colour black ;) and can recognise a pompous ass when I see one lol.

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  122. Manolo (14,166 comments) says:

    The poor divas at The sub-Standard are losing the plot and throwing hissy tantrums.
    Here some words of the effeminate Lynn Prentice:

    [lprent: Get off your lazy arse and do it yourself. Why do you want us to do your work for you? Just like you appear to be too pig ignorant to read the about on this site. The last section was specifically written for gormless lazy fuckwits like yourself.]

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  123. Manolo (14,166 comments) says:

    Its you,Manolo, Birthers etc you can’t stand the thought of a Black family being in the white house.!

    Nothing to do with the Messiah’s skin colour, but with the fact he’s a lying incompetent socialist in charge of the most powerful country on Earth.

    A Trojan horse is a better description of your hero.

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  124. wikiriwhis business (4,192 comments) says:

    “critical scrutiny based on both the issue of his race and the utterly bogus and fraudulent Birther claims about ,” The Kenyan” etc.”

    Obama has openly declared his intention of running for a third term despite that being unconstitutional.

    A war with Russia would totally suit that scenario. He would be able to enforce a state of emergency and declare martial law. Then would then be legally allowed to suspend elections until who knows when.

    The Patriot Act 2 certainly covers a lot of ground concerning what the state can shut down and marginalise. In fact, there’s nothing the state cannot control in the US.

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  125. stephieboy (3,519 comments) says:

    wikiriwhis business ,
    It’s my understanding that it will be constitutionally impossible for Obama to stand for a third term. The Republicans were able to amend the Constitution not long before FDR died to limit the tern of an incumbent to two terms.
    That still stands.
    A war with Russia would not suit Obama’s scenario whatever that maybe. Even FDR and Truman were not able to nor had the inclination to suspend elections etc during WW2.
    Just who initiated the Patriot Act 2.?

    Manolo , from your past postings the Colour of Obama’s skin is a very relevant factor in your rants and raging.

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  126. kowtow (8,936 comments) says:

    judith@354

    Surely one trawls through comments ,not “trolls” through ,unless of course one is kea when one rally is a troll.

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  127. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ kowtow (6,469 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    Oh no, trolls through was definitely the right word in this case, believe me, both ascetically and behaviorally IMO.

    So where is the lovely Kea lately, don’t tell me he’s become extinct? He hasn’t posted since I came back from holiday.

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  128. nasska (12,095 comments) says:

    Judith

    Not extinct…..just endangered.

    Regrettably he lost the plot on a thread a few weeks ago & one of the Godaddled must have narked.

    DPF banned him for two months so he should be back mid April.

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  129. Lucia Maria (2,651 comments) says:

    DPF’s demerit system is a bit harsh, in that if someone is having a meltdown, then a whole lot of demerits can be accumulated in a very short time without the person being given a chance to notice and maybe, restrain themselves. Also, the same behaviour can be exhibited without any sort of effect, and then all of a sudden – BAM!

    It is a bit odd, though, that Kea has not gone anywhere else to comment in the meantime. Plenty of options on the political blogs.

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  130. Reid (16,683 comments) says:

    Interesting take on the Dow. According to this guy, Putin’s playing the rally so he can tank it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiNiRjewYbw&list=UUoOhzyG-i7IMBEMbyRlI66g

    And a summary of the colour revolution technique.

    http://www.activistpost.com/2014/03/color-revolutions-101-making-of.html

    Putin’s an interesting character. His moves are seemingly against the NWO PTB but he’s NWO through and through.

    Regrettably he lost the plot on a thread a few weeks ago & one of the Godaddled must have narked.

    Which thread nasska?

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  131. Steve (North Shore) (4,536 comments) says:

    Judith = Pete George in drag. Does Judith know she is Pete george?
    Does Pete George know he is Judith? Like hours in the sandglass, so are the daze of our lives

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  132. nasska (12,095 comments) says:

    I didn’t keep a note of which thread Reid but it was the evening of 9th Feb.

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  133. kowtow (8,936 comments) says:

    kea is not a he.

    She is a troll. Many believe to be Marni something or other.

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  134. stephieboy (3,519 comments) says:

    Reid , Putin’s is an interesting character given his KGB genealogy, etc

    https://cpj.org/killed/europe/russia/

    NWO. ????
    and you’ll just love this,

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/03/05/rt-anchor-quits-on-air.html

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  135. wikiriwhis business (4,192 comments) says:

    SCANDAL! Does Hillary Clinton Have Brain Cancer?

    In today’s video, Christopher Greene of AMTV reports on a rumour that Hillary Clinton has brain cancer.
    http://www.amtvmedia.com/re-direct-sc
    [SOURCES]

    Whispers persist that Hillary won’t run: Health may be worse than disclosed

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/28/rum

    What Hillary Clinton’s health means for 2016
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/t

    Hillary Clinton does NOT have brain cancer: Officials slam ‘nonsense’ claims debilitating illness was behind collapse and decision to step down

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic

    .

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  136. wikiriwhis business (4,192 comments) says:

    Federal Reserve to Increase QE Above $85 Billion

    In today’s video, Christopher Greene of AMTV reports on QE infinity and the Federal Reserve ponzi scheme.
    http://www.amtvmedia.com/re-direct-fe

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  137. freemark (651 comments) says:

    Hi Judith
    I’ve patiently waited for an answer to my polite questions regarding what Craig has said.
    Shall I assume then that he didn’t really say anything that would trigger your and Russel’s accusations that he is somehow sexist or misogynistic?
    Should we assume that you just assert that someone who has differing views than you on homosexuality, religion, morality, abortion etc must think that a woman’s place is in the kitchen?
    I think it is just hate speech on your part, prove me wrong?
    But on abortion as well – when people assert that it is a woman’s right to her body etc, do you think that the sperm donator to the pregnancy should have a say in a termination decision?
    I am genuinely interested in your views.

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  138. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Steve (North Shore) (4,233 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    I am? Well it may interest you to know if I’m Pete George, he’s been castrated and miraculously managed to give birth!

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  139. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ freemark (291 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    FFS, his comments were all over the bloody media, if you can’t find them, bigger fool you.

    If the situation was reversed would you go looking for a link for me – no, I didn’t think so.

    What do I think about sperm donors – I think they need to think a hell of a lot more about the relationship they are forming before they get involved, because no, they have no rights to tell a woman what to do. She is the one who has to carry the child, give birth etc. He cannot do that for her. It is she that has the financial burden if she is unable to work etc. Sorry, but he needs to think about that before donating.

    PS if it is just hate speech on my part, then how come there are so many others commenting on other places on the web and in the media, or is that me too?

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  140. stephieboy (3,519 comments) says:

    wikiriwhis business ,

    Hilary Clinton Brain Cancer rumours.??

    None of your links work but this might,

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/02/28/daily-caller-trolls-supermarket-tabloids-for-hi/198276

    But your point.?

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  141. thedavincimode (6,890 comments) says:

    stephieboy

    I’m hardly a Putin cheerleader but stand back and look at what he is doing relative the US track record of protecting whatever it considers to be in its national interest. That’s the hypocrisy right there – what would the US do in the same situation? Well, we already know because the US has done it. What would the US expect of Obama? So then, why would the blithering idiot Obama not be able to work out what Putin’s likely response would be and why should he not expect Putin to laugh in his general direction when big ears threatens “consequences” after he sat there watching his Libyan embassy get raised and his ambassador get murdered.

    Obama is the international equivalent of Viscount Cunners. Plenty of talk, plenty of fuckups, no trousers, intelligent but incredibly stupid at the same time. He is a disaster zone and it is no wonder that yanks you talk to cringe with embarrassment.

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  142. wikiriwhis business (4,192 comments) says:

    But your point.?

    Thanks fior the link Stephieboy.

    Ma point is in the vid. Hillary is guaranteed to win in 2016. She may not even have the health to contest.

    Will that help the Repubs??

    Hilary is very valid in the world today

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  143. wikiriwhis business (4,192 comments) says:

    Bitcoin CEO Found Dead in Her Home Of Apparent “Suicide” – The Free Patriot

    https://www.facebook.com/#!/tim.wikiriwhi/posts/744085118959494?notif_t=close_friend_activity

    another financial top dog found dead…another suicide

    Why are wealthy successful people all comiting suicide at the same time ??

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  144. freemark (651 comments) says:

    Thanks Judith, but I can’t find any statement from Craig anywhere that would give any indication that he thinks women should be in the kitchen – that’s why I was hoping you could back up your comments on that. It seems that you can’t.
    So are you saying that if a couple have sex and a pregnancy ensues it is only the female that has a choice whether a child is born or not? Is an “accidental”pregnancy only the fault/responsibility of the male, but then he has no choice in the matter of whether it is terminated or not?

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  145. griffith (1,111 comments) says:

    Try that again
    .
    .
    I am Griff
    I am happy to take on griffs demerits under this id
    Lookout wingnuts :lol:

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  146. nasska (12,095 comments) says:

    freemark

    If a literal transcript of Colin Craig stating that “a woman’s place is in the kitchen” existed then it is obvious that the thin skinned one wouldn’t be suing the Green’s co leader.

    What is certain is that Mr Craig is a traditionalist. Witness a recent twitter comment:

    ….”Colin Craig @ColinCraigNZ

    Gender differences do matter, and so do the roles modelled to us by our parents. No regrets in stating the obvious.
    3:43 PM – 27 Jul 2012″…..

    The treat we have in store will be Norman’s legal team dredging up this & every other utterance the CCCP leader has ever made about a woman’s place in society. By the time they’ve finished with him he’ll be lucky to get the votes of six women from the entire voting population of NZ.

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  147. calendar girl (1,258 comments) says:

    It’s embarrassing to see stage-managed photos of PM John Key mopping up a flooded floor in Christchurch – wearing a suit!

    http://nz.news.yahoo.com/news-gallery/photo/-/21849328/pm-tours-flood-hit-christchurch/21849382/

    Why can’t political minders & PR people understand, intuitively, that this kind of contrived photo op is belittling to a leader’s public image?

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  148. wikiriwhis business (4,192 comments) says:

    .Bitcoin 2012 London: Max Keiser .

    Max Keiser speaks “On Corporations and the American School of Economics”, at London Bitcoin Conference 2012.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEHIOi8iXqE

    Amazing knowledge you’ll never read in the MSM

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  149. Viking2 (11,672 comments) says:

    For those who haven ‘t heard, Washington State has passed both laws – gay marriage and legalised marijuana.

    The fact that gay marriage and marijuana were legalised on the same day makes perfect biblical sense because Leviticus 20:13

    says “If a man lies with another man they should be stoned.”

    We just hadn’t interpreted it correctly before!

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  150. kowtow (8,936 comments) says:

    Why can’t the politico figure that out for himself,after all he’s meant to be the leader,the guy running the show?

    But I agree if these guys were themselves more (like Colin Craig),instead of taking the lead from think tanks and PR spin wallahs the public may take to them more than we do.

    Though to be fair to Key he is generally more of his own man than most of the professional permanent politicians.Of which of course he ‘s not.

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  151. nasska (12,095 comments) says:

    What the NZ conservatives really want…..

    Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/53e8rzav59858tr/Conservonutter%202.jpg

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  152. freemark (651 comments) says:

    “gender differences do matter”.. I guess they often do when buying shoes… but is that it?
    Apparently they do when decisions are to be made around having babies too.
    I suspect Judith doesn’t really like men..unless they are gay, or emasculated, or apologists.
    She’s definitely not alone in that however, by the amount of anti-man hate speech out there, and man-bans.
    It will be an interesting case however..does anyone know if Norman has kids..or many of the Greens?

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  153. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ freemark (293 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    Just a bloody minute, you asked me whether a sperm donor has any rights, and suddenly you are transferring my answer to signify that it is the same for a couple in a committed relationship or similar?

    You aren’t a politician are you? The two things are very very different. If you want to abuse me, go ahead, but no reason to lie your way and trying to find an excuse to do so.

    You take something I’ve said, refer it to another situation and decide as I don’t like Colin Craig, I must not like men?

    The father of my five children might tell you otherwise, unfortunately he is asleep in the chair after working a full day and having a meal that yes, I cooked, which I believe I should have done as he was out working a full day, whilst I only worked four hours.

    To judge a person by what they say on a blog is a really stupid thing to do, especially when you know absolutely zilch about them. I stand up for women’s right to equality – not supremacy.

    You aren’t clever twisting replies you get – doing that is dishonest and it makes a mockery of your whole argument.

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  154. nasska (12,095 comments) says:

    My mate couldn’t handle living with his wife any longer so last week he hired a hitman.

    RIP Paddy.

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  155. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ nasska (9,092 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 7:37 pm

    As I have said time and time again. I suspect Mr Craig is trying too hard to fill in the gaps that he thinks will get him votes. He can’t as your link has pointed out, all he has done is complicate and contradict his own message.

    I do not believe Craig has what it takes to be a politician. I have no doubt that he is probably a nice guy, and doesn’t have his wife tied up, barefooted and pregnant, to the kitchen table. He is trying to turn back the clock and wants society to revert to the days of old, when yes, I’m first to admit, most communities were nicer places. Unfortunately he hasn’t factored in the changes in technology, shortages of resources and a general change in consumer habits and so on. All of which drive society, and prevent the ways of old days being compatible with current society.

    He will gain some ground, simply because there is no strong viable alternative to National, but in the long run, he’ll fail – dismally.

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  156. nasska (12,095 comments) says:

    You’re probably right Judith & Mr Craig is probably a decent person & a good neighbour.

    This although is politics & in that sense I wouldn’t piss down his throat if his spleen was on fire.

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  157. Rowan (2,604 comments) says:

    Judith @ 5.13
    Unfortunately he isn’t extinct and I wonder what more he has to do for DPF to make the ban permanent, he was starting to get all dotcommie and would have a major melt down any time someone challenged his views or returned the abuse back at him so David has kindly given us all two months rest from his bird-brain.

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  158. freemark (651 comments) says:

    Judith
    “Just a bloody minute, you asked me whether a sperm donor has any rights, and suddenly you are transferring my answer to signify that it is the same for a couple in a committed relationship or similar?”
    I don’t think so, I was asking questions. If my assumptions were wrong, so have yours been. No abuse though, so take a chill pill.
    “What do I think about sperm donors – I think they need to think a hell of a lot more about the relationship they are forming before they get involved, because no, they have no rights to tell a woman what to do. She is the one who has to carry the child, give birth etc. He cannot do that for her. It is she that has the financial burden if she is unable to work etc. Sorry, but he needs to think about that before donating.”
    Maybe we are at cross purposes.. when I said sperm donor I meant the male part of a fuck/shag/lovemaking/coitus..whatever we call it.
    But I’m interested in exploring the way you think about these things, and the differences you see in decision making rights.

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  159. cha (4,138 comments) says:

    Things Ukrainian.

    http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116857/british-sanctions-russia-would-be-bad-londons-economy

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/opinion/friedman-why-putin-doesnt-respect-us.html?ref=thomaslfriedman&_r=0

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/03/ukraine-putin-tv-and-the-big-lie-104261.html?ml=m_u3_1#.UxfHLM7lbAL

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  160. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ freemark

    I thought you were referring to actual sperm donors, and I don’t believe they have any say whatsoever, regarding what the receiver of the sperm does with any resulting pregnancy.

    As far as one nighters, casual sex – I’m sorry but I think the same applies. Unless there is an ongoing relationship which involves a commitment to each other, then should a woman decide not to go through with an unwanted pregnancy, that choice is hers, providing she meets the legal criteria.

    I do NOT believe that abortion should be a method of contraception. There are plenty of adequate methods of contraception that should be employed. However, if a woman is suffering health, including mental health issues then abortion in limited circumstances should be available, but only up to 3 months gestation. If a woman is suffering in some way, then I believe it is her choice. A woman carrying a baby when she is neither emotionally or mentally able to, is never going to end well, for either the baby or the mother. I do not and never will support stranger adoption – because I do not believe it is fair to the child.

    As far as the father is concerned, the woman’s health should take priority. If the couple are in a committed relationship, then I think the father has a say, up to a certain point. I believe in those situations the couple should have to see a mediator, who attempts to solve the difficulties with the ultimate aim of assisting the couple to continue with the pregnancy and either staying together or one or the other committing to raising the child. However if that can’t be achieved, then I revert to the same argument, that as the woman must carry the baby, then if she meets the criteria for a termination, then that is ultimately her choice.

    There are far too many children bought into this world that are not loved or cared for sufficiently, many of whom end up suffering and dead from the violence of being caught up in dysfunctional families. It takes a village to raise a child – without that ‘village’, they suffer. In some cases it is better not to ‘be’ than to ‘be abused’.

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  161. Steve (North Shore) (4,536 comments) says:

    Goodnight Pete/Judith.
    Is Pete sick? he has not been here today

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  162. nasska (12,095 comments) says:

    ….”There are far too many children bought into this world that are not loved or cared for sufficiently, many of whom end up suffering and dead from the violence of being caught up in dysfunctional families.”…..

    Godnutters…..looking after the foetus from conception until birth. After that you’re on your own baby!

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  163. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ steve

    Goodnight Steve – please try not to fantasise too much about who is or isn’t – we wouldn’t want you making a mess of the sheets with your active imagination. Sweet dreams.

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  164. Ryan Sproull (7,360 comments) says:

    There are far too many children bought into this world that are not loved or cared for sufficiently, many of whom end up suffering and dead from the violence of being caught up in dysfunctional families. It takes a village to raise a child – without that ‘village’, they suffer. In some cases it is better not to ‘be’ than to ‘be abused’.

    Judith,

    Where do you stand on the humane euthanasia of 2-month-olds living in dysfunctional families?

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  165. Reid (16,683 comments) says:

    Judith Your 8.39 is a common view but I’m afraid it’s always sounded to me like one of the laws from Animal Farm:

    All animals are equal but some are more equal than others.

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  166. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Ryan Sproull (6,323 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    I support euthanasia of those mentally and mature enough who are facing terminal illness and painful suffering.

    As far as children are concerned, I haven’t given it a lot of thought, but unless that child was terminally ill, then I would advocate they be removed from the family and placed with care. HOWEVER, foster parenting is fraught with problems, just as often keeping the child within extended family can also be problematic.

    I personally believe that leaving a child in the same environment seldom works – either.

    The only answer, and it is only a long term one is to teach those who do not get the correct example from their parents, what it takes to be a good parent, and get the message through to them, that if they can’t provide what it takes, then chose never to have children.

    I have a friend that felt he could never provide a child what it take and chose serialization, to ensure there were no mistakes. I wish more would decide the same – it would solve a lot of social problems.

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  167. Pete George (23,793 comments) says:

    Parable farm:
    God loves everyone equally…until you die.

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  168. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Reid (15,057 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    I believe we are just socialised animals anyway Reid. I’m sorry but I am not a creationalist.
    Although we are socialised, there are animal traits that still exist within us, which is why we have the troubles we do in society. Some cope with socialisation better than others.

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  169. Reid (16,683 comments) says:

    Have you ever noticed that animals are social creatures as well Judith?

    The trait that distinguishes us is not socialisation, it’s conceptualisation. The ability to imagine. All other species operate in the here and now, reacting to stimulus.

    But what does that have to do with what we were discussing?

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  170. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Reid (15,058 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    I don’t agree, I believe other animals can conceptualize, perhaps not anywhere near as advanced as humans, but anyone that has observed some species can see that. For example, the elephants reaction to death and ‘elephant graveyards’.

    If humans can evolve like they have, there is no reason not to believe that other animal species cannot also develop certain abilities albeit less developed ones.

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  171. Reid (16,683 comments) says:

    Anyway, a lot of truth in this.

    http://rense.com/1.imagesH/steak-(R).jpg

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  172. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    I just don’t seem to be able to get enthusiastic about the current situation in the Crimea. It seems like my whole life there has been on going hot and cold relations surrounding Russia and the rest of the world.

    Perhaps I’ve got complacent, but this all seems a bit ‘ho hum’ here we go again! I wish they’d just let the girls sort it out – we’d have it done in a day, and everyone would be wearing much better outfits by evening.

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  173. Reid (16,683 comments) says:

    Judy Walkman, a professional genealogy researcher in southern California , was doing some personal work on her own family tree. She discovered that Senator Harry Reid’s great-great uncle, Remus Reid, was hanged for horse stealing and train robbery in Montana , in 1889. Both Judy and Harry Reid share this common ancestor.

    So Judy recently e-mailed Senator Harry Reid for information about their great-great uncle.

    Believe it or not, Harry Reid’s staff sent back the following biographical sketch for her genealogy research:

    “Remus Reid was a famous cowboy in the Montana Territory . His business empire grew to include acquisition of valuable equestrian assets and intimate dealings with the Montana railroad. Beginning in 1883, he devoted several years of his life to government service, finally taking leave to resume his dealings with the railroad. In 1887, he was a key player in a vital investigation run by the renowned Pinkerton Detective Agency. In 1889,Remus passed away during an important civic function held in his honor when the platform upon which he was standing collapsed.”

    Now THAT’s how its done, folks! That’s real Political Spin!

    http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=92125

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  174. freemark (651 comments) says:

    Thanks for the answer Judith, & comments others. It’s an interesting debate and I guess we are all influenced by our history/decisions/experiences/ideology.
    Someone suggested once that people should be offered a sum of money to be sterilised..has it’s merits I guess.
    Personally I feel that a woman’s ability (and right??) to bear and raise a child alone and practically deny the father (& the child) the opportunity to be together (where a male doesn’t realistically have that choice) is a pretty good balance against the perceived advantages of males or patriarchy. I enjoy a healthy r/ship with my (planned x 2) kid’s Mother, and get to spend a fair bit of time with them, but to a certain degree it is at her whim despite legislation & the FC.
    I feel very sorry for the guys that don’t have that, yet have had no legal power in any decision for or against termination, or where their resultant offspring live, or who they live with.. yet are forced to contribute (sometimes cripplingly) to the finances of the mother. A couple of the young guys working for me have found (or put) themselves in really shit situations having had very little ability to influence any of it.

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  175. kowtow (8,936 comments) says:

    judith

    children “bought” into the world!

    Now you’re takin di piss.

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  176. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ freemark

    Oh don’t get me wrong, I have friends that have played the game and used their children as pawns in games to get back at their husbands and ex-partners. It is not an admirable female trait – what we lack in physical strength we certainly make up for in the ability to hold a grudge.

    As I tell people (male friends) that have been caught up in this kind of situation “sit tight”, one day that child will be a teenager and they will want to know you. Whatever you do, let that child know you love them, and when they want to know you, you will be there for them”.

    Children are not and should not ever be used as property to be bargained over – they need input from both parents (providing of course they are both capable parents).

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  177. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ kowtow (6,472 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    I’m just a shocking typist – there are mistakes in all my comments, either grammatical or spelling, if I take the time to read back over it, I fix the mistakes, but I’m doing three things at once here – watching TV, finishing a review and commenting here – I can assure you I’m not superwoman, my knickers stay under my outer garments!

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  178. nasska (12,095 comments) says:

    This link should prove useful for the pedants amongst us.

    Ref: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/using-capital-letters

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  179. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Too late to teach this old dog new tricks.

    However I found this statement on that site quite refreshing “We use cookies to enhance your experience on our website”.

    I use cookies to enhance the ol’ boys experience of life with me – it seems me and the oxford dictionary do have something in common after all.

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  180. Reid (16,683 comments) says:

    I just don’t seem to be able to get enthusiastic about the current situation in the Crimea. It seems like my whole life there has been on going hot and cold relations surrounding Russia and the rest of the world.

    Perhaps I’ve got complacent, but this all seems a bit ‘ho hum’ here we go again!

    Judith this is not the same as its always been. This is the beginning of what Matthew 24:6 spoke of:

    And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

    But for those who haven’t understood recent events because they have no context and indeed are willing to hallucinate their lives mean what happens to them in this world,

    …in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

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  181. nasska (12,095 comments) says:

    Amen. :)

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  182. freemark (651 comments) says:

    I’m not even talking about playing a game Judith, as often it’s not.. and I think it rarely happens that there is a fairytale reunion when the embryos (or babies, or kiddies) become teens.
    Maybe I’m turning Green, as even when it has little to do with me..”it’s so unfair” :)
    But again, my point is that this outweighs any perceived (or real) gender imbalances or bleating about biological advantage..IMHO.
    Anyway, that’s me for the night..all tomorrow’s (and half of today’s) labour is going in a large part to paying a whole bunch of unappreciative troughers. I’ll more enjoy the 1/2 hour or so being spent on roads & other useful stuff.

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  183. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    Ref: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/using-capital-letters

    GO TO HELL

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  184. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    Ukrainian

    DUHH Follow the MONEY Trail

    WHERE DOES IT LEAD

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  185. DJP6-25 (1,389 comments) says:

    freemark 1.39 pm. Yeah, I saw that too. Fancy someone in the MSM having integrity. It’s good to see.

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  186. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ freemark (297 comments) says:
    March 6th, 2014 at 9:58 pm

    I think we all hate the fact we are paying so much towards other people’s inability to lead a self sufficient life.

    I have no problem contributing some of my taxes towards those that are genuinely struck down by some unexpected or sudden disaster in their lives. I accept that those on lower wages cannot afford income insurance, but what I hate is the generational effect that has occurred. Initially there was no doubt someone (a grandparent or maybe even a great-grandparent) that needed assistance – however the way of life has been adopted by subsequent generations, who all lack a decent work ethic, and yes, have a sense of entitlement.

    Until we break that generational effect, we will continue to keep paying for a situation that has been allowed to perpetuate for many years, until it has become so set solid, that there is no quick fix for it that is humane.

    People that have no work ethic cannot teach the next generation to have one – sadly it is going to be up to those of us that do, to teach it. I believe that the governments (all of them) have been too wound up on trying to change those that can’t be taught (they benefit too much by their current state). Instead the focus should be on enforcing a work ethic in the next generation/s.

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