Greens trying to fundraise on back of defamation case

March 5th, 2014 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

The have announced:

The Green Party has launched an appeal to cover the costs of action being taken against the party by Conservative Party leader Colin Craig.

Or is it!

The fine print:

You should know that any funds not used in the court case will go towards the Green Party’s work to create a smarter, cleaner, more compassionate New Zealand for all of us.

So actually it is a plea for campaign funds. You see it is highly likely that the Greens will use the taxpayer funded leader’s budget to cover Norman’s legal costs. They have every right to do that, but don’t be surprised if they use that fund to cover most of the costs, and then pocket all the donations for their election campaign.

On Facebook, a Green party member, Alan Bell, comments:

Totally misguided and somewhat deceitful. Nothing to do with free speech. Russel could well have spoken about Green policy without referring to Craig. Does the Green party so underestimate our intelligence as to infer we are unable to evaluate Craig for ourselves? Do the Greens plan to repeal the Defamation Act? Will the Greens introduce policy that means access to the courts is available to all rather than only the wealthy? Russel made his bed and should lie in it – his political stunt backfired. As a paid up member of the Green party I expect my representatives to stand up for the rights of all NZers including women and homosexuals and respect my ability to gauge for myself the policies of other parties. Craig has a right to defend himself against defamation – I despise the man and hope his case falls over. But I also think positing this as a defence of free speech and LGBT and womens’ rights is a load of bollocks and a stain on the integrity of the party. MPs are are on far more than “middle income” (as Cunliffe should know) so you lot can pay for it.

Another person, Graham Hooper comments:

Rusell could have made a speech defending the rights of Women and Gay people without mentioning Colin Craig. Why give the Guy any News coverage? You MPs get a Good pay. if You feel that you should waste money on Paying Lawyers then your Choice but there is an election coming up why not just say sorry and put the money towards an election

So sounds like some unrest with members and supporters.

Hat Tip: Pete Goerge

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21 Responses to “Greens trying to fundraise on back of defamation case”

  1. alex Masterley (1,507 comments) says:

    These greens are a duplicitous lot. That on top of their sanctimony.

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  2. Harriet (4,795 comments) says:

    ‘This is not unique. This is not satire. This is not parody,’ It means that liberalism cannot hold up to scrutiny. It cannot withstand a challenge. If liberalism were infallible, if liberalism were so powerful and automatic, they would welcome challenges to it — and they would welcome the attempt to persuade and to convert. But instead they’re threatened by it.’ – Rush Limbaugh

    Norman doesn’t want to debate conservatism against Liberalism, all he want’s is silence; totalatarianism. And he is prepared to twist what Mr Craig has said to get that.

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  3. Andrei (2,547 comments) says:

    Nobody has to give money, if they don’t want to.

    People are so precious about how other people manage their affairs

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  4. James Stephenson (2,145 comments) says:

    So sounds like some unrest with members and supporters.

    It seems unlikely that David Hay was a faction of one.

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  5. freedom101 (492 comments) says:

    I note from Allan Bell’s Facebook profile that he is a member of the Facebook group “Release all JFK assassination records now” – enough said.

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  6. Pete George (23,437 comments) says:

    I note that Allan Bell has one vote like everyone else. And I also not that his views are not uncommon, on the various Green discussions on Facebook (Green Party, Norman, Turei) there is a significant amount of disapproval being expressed.

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  7. bhudson (4,736 comments) says:

    As I understand it, the defamation proceedings are against Russel Norman, not the Green Party. Russel will personally benefit from funds raised to pay for his legal costs.

    Given the news this week, surely the Greens will not funnel these funds through some Trust or Party donation such that Russel can avoid disclosing any donation greater than $500 as a pecuniary interest?

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  8. Kimble (4,426 comments) says:

    I note from Allan Bell’s Facebook profile that he is a member of the Facebook group “Release all JFK assassination records now” – enough said.

    Wasn’t “he is a Green voter” enough said already?

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  9. anonymouse (709 comments) says:

    If you google the the Bank Account number the Greens gave out for this “appeal” it is exactly the same one they used in their “big whip round” when they got pinged by the AG for diddling taxpayer funding. Its also the one used for Memebership renwals.

    Sure they say put “legal fund” in the reference, but it is all one account and is used as the general party slush fund.

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  10. Keeping Stock (10,268 comments) says:

    @ anonymouse – but the Greens are the Party of Principle. Surely they, of all parties, wouldn’t do anything devious like raise campaign funds under false pretences. Goodness; I think I need a Tui :D

    PS: Do they want e-mail addresses as well? I seem to remember they were harvesting them from the Asset Sales petition.

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  11. tvb (4,327 comments) says:

    Add to this the KDC deal and Norman is looking a bit shabby. I am sure Green supporters have better things to donate money to than legal costs. Colin Craig is a wealthy man he can buy silence through his lawyers. Norman is a prize arrogant idiot. And picking a fight with Craig is utterly pointless politically. And the legal action will be distracting to Norman when he should be focusing on a bigger game. He does not have the skills of Rod Donald. He should have cut and run when Craig game him the chance to do so.

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  12. RF (1,370 comments) says:

    The communist should pick up his flag and go back to Australia.. A nasty little man.

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  13. homepaddock (408 comments) says:

    Labour got up the noses of its supporters when it went to them for funds to pay back the money illegally spent on their pledge card. The Green Party risks the same result in asking for funds to help defend Norman.

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  14. ShawnLH (4,482 comments) says:

    While I despised their policies, the previous co-leaders of the Greens at least had pretty sharp political instincts. The same cannot be said for Norman and Turei.

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  15. RRM (9,784 comments) says:

    Greens trying to fundraise on back of defamation case

    Why not? Good on them for turning it into an opportunity.

    No-one compelled Kolun to do any of this…

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  16. Pete George (23,437 comments) says:

    It’s a risky opportunity.

    No one is compelling Norman to dig his toes in and use it as a “principled” stand for free speech, gays, women and filling Green coffers.

    But there’s a lot of negative feedback – Green supporters saying that time, money and focus could be far better directed at other things. And to see the Green faithful criticising their leaders is notable.

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  17. OneTrack (2,981 comments) says:

    All because Norman wanted to defame the evil neolib and show how “hip” he was.

    Go Russel, focussing on the stuff important to Green voters. Actually, maybe it is important to them.

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  18. OneTrack (2,981 comments) says:

    Pete – “And to see the Green faithful criticising their leaders is notable.”

    Names will be taken and noted, ready for the revolution.

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  19. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    And these wankers reckon they have the next Minister of Finance . . . personal records speak loads.

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  20. OneTrack (2,981 comments) says:

    igm – “And these wankers reckon they have the next Minister of Finance . . . ”

    The way David “Crash” Cunliffe is going, I expect the Greens are now looking at Prime Minister. Turei can be Minister of Finance.

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  21. Viking2 (11,368 comments) says:

    yep, well they were out on the street today badgering passerby’s. Fortunately for the yound lady and her long haired hippy looking freind they didn’t ask me to donate.
    That would have been an invitation to be impolite.

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