One way to lift turnout!

March 11th, 2014 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

With no one else on the ballot, state media has reported that supreme leader Kim Jong-un was not only elected to the highest legislative body in , but he won with the unanimous approval of his district, which had 100 percent turnout. 

That’s up from 99% turnout! I guess the threat of execution if you don’t vote was effective!

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26 Responses to “One way to lift turnout!”

  1. burt (7,436 comments) says:

    With the right amount of KFC vouchers this level of participation could be achieved for Labour in south Auckland.

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  2. David Garrett (7,701 comments) says:

    It’s always puzzled me why these totalitarian regimes go through the charade of voting..every society contains the usual bell curve of intelligence…therefore most citizens of these kind of countries realise it is all a total sham…the rulers certainly know they will be held up to ridicule internationally…why do it? Anyone got a theory?

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  3. burt (7,436 comments) says:

    Anyone got a theory?

    They are socialists at heart and they are conditioned to believe their own lies.

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  4. redqueen (597 comments) says:

    Sounds like ‘democracy in action’. I can think of a few Wellington city councillors who would be chanting at this point…

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  5. Brian Smaller (3,966 comments) says:

    therefore most citizens of these kind of countries realise it is all a total sham

    I seriously doubt that apart from a few photo opportunities anybody actually votes at all in these countries.

    Anyone got a theory?

    Just one. The threat of a bullet in the brain pan is a powerful incentive to say nothing.

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  6. Manolo (14,179 comments) says:

    I can almost hear the imbecile Reverend Don Borrie praising the virtues of DPRNK.

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  7. YesWeDid (1,056 comments) says:

    To answer David Garrett’s question, they apparently use the elections as a de facto census to keep tabs on the population and to force people to return to their villages if they have moved away or crossed a border.

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  8. UglyTruth (4,554 comments) says:

    They are socialists at heart and they are conditioned to believe their own lies.

    This condition is more pervasive than you might think.

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  9. tas (655 comments) says:

    North Korea has it figured out! We have far too much disharmony caused by having too many political parties. Low voter turnout is a sign that our democracy is in trouble. Unanimity and 100% turnout; that’s a sign of a functioning political system!

    </sarcasm>

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  10. emmess (1,398 comments) says:

    According to radical leftists, if they have elections it must be a democracy
    Now while, not even the most stupid commies would believe that North Korea’s elections were free and fair, they tell us elections in places such as Venezuela,Russia and Iran are.

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  11. David Garrett (7,701 comments) says:

    Brian S: good point…if you are the Grand Poo Bah of one of these countries I guess you can organise a few shots of smiling peasantry gleefully voting…and then just announce the 99% vote in favour (That was Mugabe’s latest endorsement wasn’t it?)

    The interesting thing – or one of them – for me is that this 100% turnout/vote in favour is unusual…they normally make it 90 or 95% as if that is somehow more credible,,,

    As an aside, Yoza provided good sport last night on the thread re the election on 20 September, which morphed into the glories of socialist regimes….Like listening to one of those guys at Speakers Corner in Hyde Park who don’t stop talking, but say nothing…Check it out if your day is going slowly…

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  12. Odakyu-sen (871 comments) says:

    “It’s always puzzled me why these totalitarian regimes go through the charade of voting..every society contains the usual bell curve of intelligence…therefore most citizens of these kind of countries realise it is all a total sham…the rulers certainly know they will be held up to ridicule internationally…why do it? Anyone got a theory?”

    I suspect the reason is that these press releases for international consumption are prepared by a press control office that is fairly down in the pecking order (the domestic press control office is probably higher ranking than the international one due to 1) the greater importance of controlling the domestic population) and 2) the staff of the “international” office are “tainted” by their association with the outside world, and are therefore regarded with suspicion.
    The staff of the international office (being low-ranked and under suspicion) are therefore desperate to show 110% devotion to the cause, so they over compensate. The Big Boys in the PRNK probably don’t give a rat’s arse about the English that is broadcast, and probably want to maintain a facade of looking like out-of-touch hicks to the Western media, to keep them off guard.

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  13. Mobile Michael (476 comments) says:

    In North Korea, the election is underway. Each person enters the hall, registers, then is given an envelope to place in ghe ballof box. Suddenly one person starts to open the envelope and write in a vote! The police immediately run up and grab it away. “Comrade! No! This is a secret ballot! “

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  14. tvb (4,560 comments) says:

    We have got a thing or two from a socialist dictator.

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  15. tas (655 comments) says:

    David Garrett: Interesting question. Maybe it’s to test loyalty – party apparatchiks will pretend to believe the official story and if you call out the farce, you’re shot. You have to be pretty loyal to believe the elections are meaningful.

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  16. Weihana (4,621 comments) says:

    David Garrett (4,877 comments) says:
    March 11th, 2014 at 10:03 am

    It’s always puzzled me why these totalitarian regimes go through the charade of voting..every society contains the usual bell curve of intelligence…therefore most citizens of these kind of countries realise it is all a total sham…the rulers certainly know they will be held up to ridicule internationally…why do it? Anyone got a theory?

    It’s not about having people believe it, it’s about demonstrating to the North Korean people the power of the state to force them to pretend it is true, along with all the other mythology that surrounds the leader. Of course it isn’t true and everyone knows it. But if you are North Korean and everyone around you is forced to accept it, that is a powerful demonstration of the power of the state and gives you less hope that if you stood up and said something that there would be other people standing beside you.

    Moreover, what better test of loyalty do you have than to concoct something so ridiculous and then observe who dares question it? At it’s core North Korea is a cult. It operates by demanding unflinching loyalty and the more ridiculous the dogma is, the more likely it is to fish out those who dare think for themselves.

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  17. Kimbo (1,265 comments) says:

    It’s always puzzled me why these totalitarian regimes go through the charade of voting…Anyone got a theory?

    According to Marxist theory, only a communist state is democratic (the state owing the means of production, distribution and exchange). Hence why they are the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK). It is only our so-called elections that are a sham.

    So this is their workers’ paradise endorsing the leadership. Which, unsurprisingly given the job that they do(!), is brilliant. Nothing unsurprising about the 100% vote, because this is what Marx said the classless society would produce – bliss and satisfaction.

    …therefore most citizens of these kind of countries realise it is all a total sham…

    Two problems. They know nothing else and live in fear of the outside world, so Stockholm Syndrome applies on a vast scale. Weihana’s comment above about a vast cult is spot-on. This is Jonestown as an entire state. Surprised? It is the 21st Century and millions still believe in the doctrine of Papal Infallibility – and will defend it dogmatically and aggressively.

    Also, have a look at the inability of otherwise intelligent people on this site, despite the free availability of information and the exchange of ideas to comprehend and accept political and practical realities and their frightening capacity to subsume their critical faculties in the interests of ideology and partisan causes.

    Which, David Garrett, is why ACT was always going to be a minor party, winning no more than about 6% of the vote. Most folks NEVER make life decisions, including whom they vote for, on the basis of reason alone. Roger Douglas’ calls for ACT to “get back to basics” in the assumption that would make them a major political player was a chimera – as was Hide’s populism to expand their vote for that matter.

    I don’t make the rules. I just report them.

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  18. RRM (10,104 comments) says:

    Where to from here, though?

    110% approval from a turnout of 101%?

    It’s hard to continue to improve when you’ve already achieved perfection.

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  19. David Garrett (7,701 comments) says:

    Kimbo: At the risk of threadjacking…of course ACT was always going to be – and in fact SHOULD be – a 10 – 15% party…its ideas were never particularly centrist, and as everyone knows, you have to capture the centre if you are going to be elected as the major party…As far as I am aware Roger never saw it as other than a party of influence…hopefully one of considerable influence, but never a lead party…

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  20. Kimbo (1,265 comments) says:

    No, wasn’t trying to threadjack, Just illustrating the point. And neither are you. Just trying to find some local applicability in this North Korean election result :)

    At 10-15% Roger Douglas, whose grasp of the hard numbers is otherwise impeccable, over-estimates by almost double the number of people who will make decisions on the basis of logic alone. It wasn’t ACT’s policies that makers the lefties curl up their lips. It was being forced to debate within the confines of reason, cause-and-effect, and actions and consequences that used to make them melt like the Wicked Witch of the West that made them react so strongly against ACT!

    They were never going any higher – IMHO.

    In contrast, at least 30-35% of the population WILL be swayed by nothing other than emotion alone. Hence Mana, the Greens, and NZ First in particular- plus the populist pitches of the two major parties, and the air-brushing of their leaders. And Kim Jong un :)

    Again, I don’t make the rules…

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  21. s.russell (1,650 comments) says:

    It is quite possible that the report is true. All residents of this district (except for the great leader) have either died of starvation or been executed. So there is a 100% turnout of one. Or maybe it was a gerrymandered rottenborough with only one (or a few) voters to start with.

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  22. kowtow (8,945 comments) says:

    Al Jazeera news covered this (why couldn’t TVNZ?)

    The process is as follows.

    Everyone must vote.There is only one candidate.There are separate and very public yes and no booths.

    It is also a form of census and lets the regime know how many have escaped since last time.

    It would take a very brave man to vote No in North Korea.

    Having said that if a candidate got a few No votes it would be an indication to the dictatorship that there was some dissent……

    my guess is in that scenario the no voters and the candidate eventually end up in the gulag.

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  23. lazza (401 comments) says:

    Ahhhh Sow.

    Velly glood lesult fo me.

    My Daddy would be velly ploud.

    Must ling Dennis now … tell him da noose.

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  24. Nookin (3,573 comments) says:

    I think I read that there is one candidate only and the choice is “yes” or “no”.

    One does not need to ponder for long especially having given your name to the scrutineers.

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  25. chiz (1,175 comments) says:

    Kim Jong-un clearly believes in the principle of one man – one vote. He’s one man, and everyone gets one vote for him.

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  26. Steve (North Shore) (4,538 comments) says:

    Len,
    See how this works, just ask North Korea, actually, just go there – please

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