Rutherford on Key in China

March 22nd, 2014 at 11:00 am by David Farrar

Hamish Rutherford writes:

Seconds after stepped off the plane from Shanghai to Hong Kong, the third and final stop of his Chinese visit, officials began rolling the red carpet away.

The move was no doubt to minimise the disruption to other passengers rather than a slight on the rest of the delegation, but was symbolic of the presidential nature of the trip.

How much of it has been down to  Key, and how much to Kiwi officials based in Wellington and Beijing, cannot be calculated. But in diplomatic terms the trip appears to be flawless, even as storms surround two of Key’s colleagues at home.

New Zealand achieved a trifecta – with a deal to directly trade currency, lofty new trade targets set and Key hosted at a private dinner with President Xi Jinping.

Only a week ago it appeared as though this visit was to deliver a humiliating defence of New Zealand’s food safety standards following last year’s botulism scare, to a country where even many locals refuse to drink the tap water due to contamination fears.

While there was no public acknowledgement that the botulism incident was a false alarm from Key’s host, the Chinese government could hardly have given stronger signals to its businesses of the high regard New Zealand is held. The frequent access to top Chinese leadership and growing rapport between Key and Xi was evidence New Zealand is given disproportionate importance by Beijing relative to our global status.

I’ll blog more on this during the week, but Key is incredibly good at developing not just professional relationships with other leaders, but a strong personal rapport also.

He’s not just done that with countries we share a common heritage with (Anglosphere of Australia, Canada, UK, US) but also President Xi of China, President Santos of Colombia, President Nieto of Mexico, former President Medvedev of Russia, President Sein of Burma etc.

And relationships do matter. They can be more important than almost anything else when it comes to politics (and business).

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53 Responses to “Rutherford on Key in China”

  1. mikenmild (11,569 comments) says:

    Is it true that world leaders get physically aroused when they meet John Key?

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  2. mjw (399 comments) says:

    A great effort in China from John Key. Thanks.

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  3. slightlyrighty (2,475 comments) says:

    No one can lessen the importance of these visits and the value of these relationships in the real world.

    On Planet Labour however, cries of crony capitalism continue.

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  4. Elaycee (4,403 comments) says:

    Milkmilo: Is it true that world leaders get physically aroused when they meet John Key?

    [Comment deleted by Elaycee – MM’s comment not worthy of a response]

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  5. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,913 comments) says:

    Ya gotta laugh at these poor envious jealous lefties. So far up themselves.

    Why you’d think Helen Clark regularly went hill climbing in the Caucasus with her good friend Vladimir.

    Or was it Nikita or Leonid?

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  6. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    mikenmild (7,931 comments) says:
    March 22nd, 2014 at 11:08 am
    Is it true that world leaders get physically aroused when they meet John Key?

    Probably in his own mind however, evidence is a little less convincing of his ‘importance’ – e.g. the ‘unidentified guest’

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  7. Chthoniid (2,047 comments) says:

    This is actually quite a big deal here in China. I’m in China at moment and was here when Key visiited. The photo of the symbolic exchange of bank notes to mark the currency deal was on the front page of most daily newspapers. The China Daily covered the story on two consecutive days. They covered the false alarm point in that following story.

    On the China Daily the front page pic was above the MH370 story.

    There are other trade deals going on here with other countries that in terms of volume, are far more significant. They didn’t get this attention.

    They’re sending out a pretty strong signal that they like Key and they like NZ.

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  8. Paulus (2,656 comments) says:

    The left wing media should remember that it was Helen Clark who set up the relationship with China.
    Best (and only) thing she did exceptionally well.
    We should be grateful to her.
    But the GreenLabourWinstonDotCrim Party cannot accept such a thing – it is beyond their Phd intelligence.
    Nasty little people – wanting to drag the whole country down to their sordid levels.

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  9. Fisiani (1,047 comments) says:

    Boosting trade with China from 18 Billion dollars to $30,000,000,000 in just 6 years as planned will boost jobs and wages in New Zealand….IF we keep a strong National government

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  10. Keeping Stock (10,398 comments) says:

    Fran O’Sullivan’s column this morning on Key’s China trip really rips into Labour:

    It is a great pity that this “New Zealand Inc” approach has now been deliberately thrown out the window by Opposition politicians out to make domestic political advantage in election year.
    New Zealand exporters were pleased Key was able to make time after his Xi dinner for photo opportunities with their Chinese clients at Wednesday night’s Celebration of Dairy dinner.
    The event kicked on – as they tend to – elsewhere at the Four Seasons hotel and in various nightspots around Beijing.
    Here’s the thing: New Zealand exporters are scathing of the Opposition’s timing of the Oravida revelations. Beijing expats retain deep suspicions that in the first place, some “low-level” Foreign Affairs official leaked details of Cabinet minister Judith Collins’ off-schedule meetings with Stone Shi’s Oravida in October, and that the Opposition sat on the issue until the eve of the Prime Minister’s China trip to inflict maximum political damage while he was overseas.
    The upshot is that, yet again, a positive diplomatic foray by Key has been overshadowed by domestic politics.

    This sounds like an action replay of the Person A leaks from MFAT of a couple of years ago. It’s interesting that Grant Robertson is once again right at the centre of it all.

    But it’s also telling that Labour will be happy to ride on the coat-tails of Key’s success in China if and when they ever become government again, but that they will do everything they can to undermine both Key and New Zealand in the meantime. That is quite simply economic sabotage.

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  11. Chthoniid (2,047 comments) says:

    I doubt Labour alone would be able to damage Sino-NZ relations, but I suspect any government with Winston Peters in it will be much more problematic.

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  12. cha (4,076 comments) says:

    18 Billion dollars to $30,000,000,000

    $ 77,482,170,532

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  13. RF (1,439 comments) says:

    KS. 1.00pm. Little chubby bum is a sneaky little toad that has his fingerprints on anything anti National. He was my pick out of the 3 Amigos but now changed my mind. All three were useless.

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  14. Johnboy (16,980 comments) says:

    It’s music in the ears of a righty like me how we have these wonderful reports of JK and how he cruises into these photo-ops with Obama and the Queen and Xi Jinping and the hatred and angst it causes amongst the jealous lefties in NZ! :)

    Long may it cause them dyspepsia! :)

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  15. Ross12 (1,453 comments) says:

    Chthoniid

    Peters is in China at the moment with the Foreign Affairs , Defence and Trade Committee.. I hope they just ply him with drink to shut him up !!

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  16. Johnboy (16,980 comments) says:

    The cheap fag’s that he get’s to bring back should help with the coffin nails Ross12! :)

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  17. Dave_1924 (116 comments) says:

    While I am extremely happy to see an enhancement of our trading relationship with China – I am a little concern at the Chinese motivations, beyond securing primary customer status for Farm NZ produce.
    Given China’s growing power as a military force in the Pacific, its ambivalent at best relationship with the US and its on going goading of other north Asian and north Pacific countries like the Philippines, Vietnam, Japan over the South china Sea – I wonder what their end goal is for the NZ relationship?
    We need to be a little careful not to be beholden to China so we as a nation can speak out on international matters form our own independent viewpoint. China has a rather direct way of dealing with what it sees as dissent internal and externally it can punish countries economically very easily if it wants to via smear campaigns in its media and by stopping goods on wharves with one phone call. we saw this around the Dairy scare ….
    And no I am not Anti-China, not a fan of Communism or one party states though. I just wish the Chinese people were free to follow their own wishes not the dictates of the central committee

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  18. Johnboy (16,980 comments) says:

    Have no fear Dave_1924. Jk is positioning us to be the trusty brokers that are right in the middle of it when China and the US declare war on each other. We will be the Switzerland of the south pacific! :)

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  19. Dave_1924 (116 comments) says:

    @JB – in the middle maybe the right place to be as long as its not in the middle of the shooting…..

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  20. Johnboy (16,980 comments) says:

    Once the megatons have stopped detonating our strontium90 free dairy products will be greatly in demand Dave_1924, even if they are sourced from Oravida! :)

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  21. wikiriwhis business (4,111 comments) says:

    I rather suspect the reason NZ is so popular with China is because all our borrowing comes from China and the borrower is servant to the lender.

    And the borrowing continues

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  22. wikiriwhis business (4,111 comments) says:

    Why is everyone complaining about socialist Labour screwing up relations with China ??

    J Key is Keysnian socialist anyway.

    China laughs with both sides of the house in treasury seats.

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  23. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    Well all we can tell is

    HE DID NOT as any HARD QUESTIONS DID HE

    Leave that to an

    AUSTRALIAN WOMAN

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/27/julie-bishop-faced-unprecedented-rudeness-from-china-says-diplomat

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-27/china-rejects-australian-criticism-of-new-air-zone/5120920

    Australia risks becoming embroiled in another diplomatic spat in Asia, with China warning there will be consequences if Foreign Minister Julie Bishop does not withdraw criticism of a new air defence zone in the East China Sea.

    AS LONG AS YOU DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAY
    AND GIVE THEM EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANT WHEN THEY WANT IT
    AND REFUSE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS

    EVERYTHING WILL BE FINE

    ROLL OVER

    FETCH

    PLAY DOG

    GROVEL GROVEL APPEASE APPEASE IGNORE IGNORE

    DOn’t worry JOHN BOY you and your big tough Kid beating Kiwi Mates
    can leave it to an

    Australian Woman to ask the hard questions eh?

    Put a chicken on the flag
    along with some sheep to replace the southern cross

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  24. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/849973.shtml

    A guided missile destroyer was delivered and commissioned to the People’s Liberation Army Navy on Friday.

    The warship “Kunming” with hull number 172, was officially handed over at a ceremony held at the port of Jiangnan Shipyard (Group) CO., Ltd in Shanghai.

    The warship belongs to the new generation of China-made guided missile destroyers and has a strong capacity for regional air defense and naval warfare, navy sources said.

    Navy commander Wu Shengli said at the ceremony that weaponry and equipment are vital to the building of a strong navy and the Kunming warship will greatly enhance the navy’s fighting capacity.

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  25. mikenmild (11,569 comments) says:

    Thanks Ben for alerting us to the fact that China has a navy.

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  26. Steve (North Shore) (4,580 comments) says:

    $18B to $30B will create a lot of jobs and business.
    It’s almost like the lefties just don’t want to work and rather stay on the public tit, lazy bastards

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  27. Steve (North Shore) (4,580 comments) says:

    Peters is in China. Maybe China could inadvertantly put him on the wrong plane and send the drunken shit to North Korea?

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  28. tvb (4,487 comments) says:

    Key is possibly getting royal treatment in order to provide a boost politically for later in the year. Golf with Obama was possibly done for similar reasons. I assume the Russians will get a wide berth this year. Labour’s timing on the milk gate thing does have some logic to it and Judith Collins did make it easy for them.

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  29. OneTrack (3,204 comments) says:

    “It’s almost like the lefties just don’t want to work and rather stay on the public tit, ….”

    Yes, it is. If it’s not them doing something, they seem to do their level best to spoil for everybody else so that everybody loses. Including the country as a whole. It’s their own little version of the scorched earth battle tactic.

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  30. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    Don’t mention it mikenmild

    DID YOU KNOW AFTER JULIA BISHOPS QUESTION THE CHINESE
    SENT SOME SHIPS
    DOWN NEAR AUS

    TO SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE

    DID YOU KNOW THAT
    WELL IF YOU DON’T YOU ARE NOT UP WITH THE PLAY ARE YOU

    THAT WAS NOT A COINCIDENCE

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/raaf-scrambles-plane-to-observe-chinese-naval-exercise-20140212-32ief.html
    <
    Australia scrambled an air force surveillance plane earlier this month to monitor an unannounced Chinese military exercise that took the emerging superpower's ships closer to Australian territory than ever before.
    In what observers say is a significant strategic development, China carried out combat simulations at the beginning of the month between Christmas Island and Indonesia in an apparent flexing of its growing naval muscle.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/raaf-scrambles-plane-to-observe-chinese-naval-exercise-20140212-32ief.html#ixzz2wfgkxYrG

    When there are hard questions to be asked

    AND
    THERE
    ARE

    we can always rely on an Australian Woman to ask them?

    KEY does not have the Balls?

    AND YOU LIVE IN GAGA LAND

    Grovel Grovel Grovel Grovel
    to YOUR NEW MASTERS

    SHE JUST ASKED A QUESTION?

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/julie-bishop-stands-firm-on-remarks-despite-chinese-fury-20131127-2ya2q.html

    Foreign Minister Julie Bishop has refused to back down over comments to China regarding its newly declared air defence zone in the East China Sea, despite an angry response from the Chinese government.
    And Treasurer Joe Hockey has supported his Coalition colleague saying she is doing ''exactly the right thing''.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/julie-bishop-stands-firm-on-remarks-despite-chinese-fury-20131127-2ya2q.html#ixzz2wfcoMf4i

    GLAD IT IS ALL GOING WELL FOR ALL YOU GROVELLING APPEASERS

    ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS NOW CHANGE YOUR FLAG

    EVERYTHING IS FINE IN LITTLE CHINA AS LONG
    AS WOMAN JUST SHUT UP

    AND DON'T ASK TOO MANY QUESTIONS ISN"T THAT RIGHT

    KEY has it all under control

    Yeah Right

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  31. mikenmild (11,569 comments) says:

    You are getting all shouty again Ben.

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  32. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    Just keeping you informed I expect some ASIANs have only interacted with WHITE WOMAN

    in your GOVERNMENT LEGALISED BROTHELS

    MUST BE HARD for COMMIE BULLY BOYS TO STOMACH

    WHEN THEY GET ASKED HARD QUESTION ABOUT THE BILLION UPON BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS
    UPON BILLIONS OF MILITARY SPEND

    FORM A WHITE WOMAN
    Democratically elected

    must make them feel impotent

    WHAT IS THE NOT FLY ZONE FOR

    I WILL TELL YOU

    IT IS FOR CONVENIENTLY FINDING AN EXCUSE OR SCAPE GOAT
    OR IN YOUR CASE “SCAPE SHEEP”

    TO START A WAR

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  33. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    Just keeping you informed I expect some ASIANs have only interacted with WHITE WOMAN

    in your GOVERNMENT LEGALISED BROTHELS

    MUST BE HARD for COMMIE BULLY BOYS TO STOMACH

    WHEN THEY GET ASKED HARD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BILLION UPON BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS
    UPON BILLIONS OF MILITARY SPEND

    FROM A WHITE WOMAN
    Democratically elected

    must make them feel impotent

    WHAT IS THE NOT FLY ZONE FOR

    I WILL TELL YOU

    IT IS FOR CONVENIENTLY FINDING AN EXCUSE OR SCAPE GOAT
    OR IN YOUR CASE “SCAPE SHEEP”

    TO START A WAR

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  34. slijmbal (1,236 comments) says:

    @dave 1924

    Both the US and China will play the bully card – let’s be honest the US has played the bully card lots in the past. They’re not exactly nice (but also not nasty) to NZ for a few decades now.

    We are probably getting the ‘mate card’ played by both as the US has realised they have screwed up the Pacific area diplomacy for quite a while now. Several of the PI nations are becoming exceedingly friendly with China and anti the US. The US runs the risk of having Australia as its only real significant ally in the region. Oz has started behaving like a little US in the region and isn’t exactly making friends, either.

    NZ using the tension could be brilliant for us and Key seems to be using it well.

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  35. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    Your little isolated country only exists because largely because of US and Aus sacrifice in the Pacific

    When you change your flag do not put a silver fern

    Try a White Feather

    China has attempted to set up spy bases in Timor
    the company that controls NZ internet Aus and Us will not touch?

    Splitting AUstralia from it’s traditional Allies is deliberate strategy

    YOU and “YOUR LEADER”
    WOULD SELL THE ENTIRE REGION
    DOWN THE DUNNY for
    30 pieces of Silver or less?

    As you have as you will

    When it all turns to c r a p for you as it will

    YOu will expect help

    the only country to s c rew up in the Pacific so far is NZ

    Sell your milk powder and Drive your Tourist buses to your Brothels

    that and worse is the future for SLAVES and grovellers

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  36. Fisiani (1,047 comments) says:

    Seek professional help sir.

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  37. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    Now you Read your own

    Communist Newspaper before you GIVE MEM A LECTURE LIAR

    You don’t have Clue

    IF YOU ARE SO INTERESTED IN CHINA check this website every week for a week or two
    http://www.globaltimes.cn/CHINA/Military.aspx

    Get back with your findings?

    THat is NZ for you Whining about the Country USA that saved it from extermination

    and the Chinese criticise AUS for asking them a simple Question
    Aus help stop Japan ?

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  38. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    Seek professional help sir.

    NO YOU JUST NOD AND OBEY AND BELIEVE everything the puppet master tells you

    Change your flag quick

    It will help legitimise anything else that comes after

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  39. Johnboy (16,980 comments) says:

    I luv your capitalisation Ben! :)

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  40. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    I mean I should APOLOGISE and so should AUSTRALIA

    the only Australians allowed to ASK the CHINESE Questions are their

    OWN FAKE media companies set up by
    THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY

    in AUSTRALIA set up deliberately to ask

    EASY questions to make you ALL FEEL GOOD

    http://little-red-blog.com/how-china-is-using-a-fake-news-service-to-spread-its-propaganda/

    <
    Global CAMG is peddling propaganda as news — it’s wrapping itself in an Australian identity that is fraudulent.
    ?

    Don't you people even know this is going on ?

    ARE YOU CLUELESS or MIS informed by your own media

    http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2014/03/11/will-the-real-foreign-reporter-please-stand-up/

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  41. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    PLEASE READ FROM THE SCRIPT

    DO NOT ASK HARD QUESTIONS

    OR BRING UP ISSUES THAT QUESTION PARTY POLICY AND MOTIVATIONS

    http://rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/15/a-foreign-reporter-serves-up-softballs-in-beijing/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=1

    A Foreign Reporter Serves Up Some Softballs in Beijing

    HONG KONG — Before the Chinese Communist Party concluded its landmark congress on Thursday with a new roster of leaders, a mild furor broke out among the foreign press corps when an Australian journalist was allowed to ask questions at several official gatherings where overseas reporters are almost pathologically ignored.

    Who is Andrea Yu?
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-15/an-who-is-andrea-yu3f/4373496

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  42. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    SWALLOW THE LIES NZ HOOK LINE AND SINKER

    Melbourne-based, Beijing-funded

    First of all, what was the CAMG Media Group, journalists wanted to know.

    According to the company’s website, CAMG is an emerging “media star” with media and cultural across the Asia Pacific region.

    It was founded in Melbourne in September 2009, and says it has been committed to building “cross cultural bridges” with subsidiaries registered in New Zealand, Thailand, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, and Nepal, among others.

    By Ms Yu’s own admission, few people have ever heard of CAMG.

    Another little known fact is that its affiliated with state-run China Radio International, with the major shareholding in Beijing.

    In an interview with Ms Yu, the ABC’s China correspondent, Stephen McDonnell, asked whether she agreed it was disingenuous to present herself as an independent, international journalist when she actually works for a Chinese company.

    “Yes, that’s a good question. It is interesting, and a lot of people have asked me about that. The fact is, I chose to be employed by them, and I’m representing their company. So when I ask questions in press conferences and anything like that, I’m representing the company as well as representing Australia,” she replied.

    Mr McDonnell continued: “The company though, it’s controlled from Beijing, right?”

    “Ah, well we do have a head office in Melbourne, so…” Ms Yu said.

    “The majority shareholding is from Beijing – that’s right, isn’t it?” Mr McDonnell pressed.

    “Ah, yes, yes that’s true,” she conceded.

    Managers for CAMG have declined to comment.

    Innocent journalist or covergirl?

    And what of Ms Yu?

    She was certainly the media star of the congress.

    Ms Yu appeared on state-run China Central Television’s Monday night news bulletin.

    She also featured on the official website of the Communist Party’s newspaper, The People’s Daily, in a slideshow labelled ‘beautiful scenery at 18th CPC National Congress’.

    Ms Yu told the ABC that she had only been working with CAMG for a month.

    Not much is known about her life prior to that, but speculation is rife.

    The Beijing Cream blog reported that her real name is Andrea Hodgkinson, and she will appear on the cover of the next addition of Oriental BQ Weekly Magazine.

    The search for more information on laowai, or foreigner, of the moment continues.

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  43. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    I luv your capitalisation Ben!

    NO JOHNBOY YOU LOVE

    JOHN BANKS

    That is why you have to hide the TEA Tapes

    It is ok it is legal now you can come out of the closet

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  44. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO THIS INTERVIEW

    BEFORE YOU READ ANOTHER THING REGARDING CHINA

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-14/politburo-revealed-as-mysterious-australian/4372186?section=australianetworknews

    China uses mysterious Australian to rig Congress coverage
    Updated Sun 18 Nov 2012, 5:33pm AEDT

    Tomorrow in Beijing will see the dawning of a new era, when the Politburo Standing Committee reveals itself to the world. There’s been much about this Congress that could fairly be described as really just a piece of theatre, including the role of a mysterious ‘journalist’ from Australia who’s been thrust into the limelight.

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  45. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    PLEASE IN FUTURE ONLY ASK EASY QUESTIONS ABOUT CHINA

    IF YOU DON’T

    PEOPLE HAVE TO THINK

    AND SOME PEOPLE FIND THAT HARD

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-14/politburo-revealed-as-mysterious-australian/4372186?section=australianetworknews

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  46. Nostradamus (3,418 comments) says:

    Ben Dover:

    I’m tempted to ask if you’re UglyTruth in one of his most hallucinogenic moments, but time is short (I barely got out alive) so I’ll come straight to the point. They ARE out to get you. The men in white coats, I mean. I overheard them talking about how they were going to capture you, and then force you to listen to music by Britney Spears until you reveal EVERY conspiracy theory you know about. Wait – I hear something. Quick RUN!

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  47. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    THIS IS HOW WOMAN SHOULD BEHAVE

    BE A GOOD GIRL ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE PRE APPROVED AND WE PUT YOU ON A NICE COVER

    http://beijingcream.com/2012/11/woman-of-the-hour-andrea-yu-is-actually-andrea-hodgkinson-magazine-cover-girl/

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  48. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    MORE GOOD READING

    Down the Fake Journalism Rabbit Hole with Andrea Yu and CAMG Media

    http://jamestgriffiths.com/2013/05/12/down-the-fake-journalism-rabbit-hole-with-andrea-yu-and-camg-media/

    STEPHEN MCDONNELL: Because I mean you could say that it’s as if the Chinese government has brought you up here as a sort of friendly journalist to essentially ask itself questions that it likes about its own performance.ANDREA YU: Yes, you could say that, but you could only say that if you knew who my company was and we are fairly, I would say, not very well-known at this stage.
    Yu goes on to admit that the questions she asked were pre-written by Chinese colleagues and that CPC officials “know my questions are safe”. Yu is essentially fulfilling a very old laowai role: providing a white face to Chinese business.

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  49. Nostradamus (3,418 comments) says:

    MORE GOOD READING spam

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  50. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    REMEMBER BELIEVE WHAT THEY TELL YOU IT IS ALL THE TRUTH

    ABSOLUTE TRUTH AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT NEED ANSWERS

    CAMG

    WILL ASK THEM ON YOUR BEHALF

    From their Melbourne office

    They don’t need offices in NZ because you believe anything and everything you are told
    by your media with out question

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  51. Chthoniid (2,047 comments) says:

    China isn’t a monolithic force but the intersection of competing interests in government between pragmatists, ideologues, market liberalisers etc. Navigating this is the art to business, diplomacy and everything else in China. At the moment the old guard is losing ground. Sustaining those who prefer pragmatic, peaceful solutions based on mutual gains I think, is the only viable strategy we can have. The new premier is an exemplar of a much more forward looking approach based on tackling the real problems China faces rather than ignoring them. The PLA is always going to get funding because they have to be kept happy and China is still carrying the scars of foreign interventions in 20th C.

    There is an odd affection for NZ here. It’s a good time have an NZ passport. At last banquet I explained we sent a plane to help look for MH370 because we live on an Islands and are good at finding things in the sea. The local Chinese were genuinely appreciative.

    I’d hate to be in Malayasia’s foreign service about now.

    Also I meant it in the news stories. China is doing talks with S Korea at the moment and they make up nearly 10% of their imports. It got nothing like the coverage the NZ-China stories have got. And we’re barely a blip on their trade stats.

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  52. Duxton (657 comments) says:

    “The cheap fag’s that he get’s to bring back should help with the coffin nails Ross12!”

    Sorry, I didn’t realise Grant Robertson was on the trip :-)

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  53. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    I’d hate to be in Malayasia’s foreign service about now.

    CORRECT THEY ARE BEING THREATENED WITH VIOLENCE
    FOR NO LOGICAL REASON

    TAKE NOTE OF THAT

    WHEN THINGS GO WRONG

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