Shock horror – PM open law firm of colleague’s wife

March 14th, 2014 at 9:38 pm by David Farrar

Those who are appalled by the fact that Judith Collins opened an office for a company her husband is a director of, will surely be appalled that the Prime Minister opened the offices of a company owned by a Cabinet’s Minister’s wife. And this wasn’t a major exporter earning money for NZ, but a boutique law firm in Auckland.

Whale Oil has the details of this terrible conflict of interest that surely will have the Leader of the Opposition calling for the Prime Minister and Minister to resign.

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43 Responses to “Shock horror – PM open law firm of colleague’s wife”

  1. Keeping Stock (10,092 comments) says:

    I wonder if it’s someone from Chancery Green who is one of the mystery donors who made anonymous donations to that nice Mr Cunliffe’s secret trust.

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  2. Zapper (925 comments) says:

    Of course, this is no big deal and wasn’t criticised at the time. Except that now it is a big deal, when National have a similar story.

    I assume Cunliffe will come out and admit Collins did nothing wrong, and he and Helen Clark did nothing wrong. Move on.

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  3. cha (3,779 comments) says:

    Helen who?.

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  4. Nostalgia-NZ (4,898 comments) says:

    Another title for this ‘topic’ could have been, ‘Desperate Smoke Signals from the Vanquished.’

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  5. griffith (1,111 comments) says:

    …. Sigh …..
    Something tells me this is going to be a down’n’dirty election process.

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  6. Graeme Edgeler (3,262 comments) says:

    I see nothing in that news article indicating that the Prime Minister endorsed the law firm. Did I miss it?

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  7. itstricky (1,536 comments) says:

    I see nothing in that news article indicating that the Prime Minister endorsed the law firm. Did I miss it?

    And, sorry, the Prime Minister lied about it, where?

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  8. itstricky (1,536 comments) says:

    Have a good tramp DPF. Hope, while you’re stuck inside a tent in the rain, you have a good think about doing a post on Collins. I’ll be waiting.

    Did Cunliffe burn Slater’s Vogels?

    It was six years ago alright Cameron, let it go!

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  9. Reid (15,912 comments) says:

    I see nothing in that news article indicating that the Prime Minister endorsed the law firm.

    Normally the PM attending an opening of a law firm is taken as read they’re endorsing it.

    In the real world.

    Interesting isn’t it the law firm in question at its opening in 1995 was focusing on AGW consultation which focus of course during her tenure is one of the main reasons why Hulun got the UN job and which focus of course is why Chancery Gween got so much business. Wonder how much of it was paid by we taxpayers?

    Pays to be in the right circles doesn’t it.

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  10. itstricky (1,536 comments) says:

    Normally the PM attending an opening of a law firm is taken as read they’re endorsing it.

    In the real world.

    You mean the Prime Minister endorses the NZ Open and The Millbrook Resort?

    http://www.nzopen.co.nz/news/NZ-Open-PM-John-Key-confirmed-for-Queenstown-117.html

    Shock horror. Better get that one up there as well.

    I’m sure he didn’t open his mouth and say “I love the beds at the Millbrook resort and I really love their beer” whilst owning shares. And then lie about what he said, or didn’t, after that.

    Good one. I’ll remember that “In the real world” quote for whenever any MP opens anything from now on…

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  11. Reid (15,912 comments) says:

    I’m sure he didn’t open his mouth and say “I love the beds at the Millbrook resort and I really love their beer” whilst owning shares. And then lie about what he said, or didn’t, after that.

    Are you implying that’s what Collins did tricky?

    You are tricky aren’t you, in a weak, transparent sort of way. Just like your leader.

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  12. Sofia (817 comments) says:

    After this comment I will give up on the issue, as no one seems to want to believe it happened, but refer to John Key’s tricky and definitely “cute” [Collins' great crime] answers to journalists’ questions about John Banks and whether Key had read the Police Report on [in his turn] John Banks own fucking trickiness.

    Both Johns, not so cutey cute at all, nor transparent or honest, and in Banks situation, as “Christian” as he professes to be.

    And, for how fucking long there was John Key endorsing John Banks in what was such an obvious conflict of interests, that the whole nation was going “Ha ha, it’s OK, John, we understand exactly what you are doing – hanging on to Bank’s vote, and probably saving the country from an early election, as long as the fucking Opposition and useless Winston Peters can’t frame a question cute enough to catch you both out.”
    _______

    PS: The Noodle Canteen, Tuwharetoa Street, Taupo has a photograph on a wall showing Helen Clark dining there with Management, which I figure amounts to endorsement because the only other photograph shows the same thing.

    One Review for Noodle Canteen
    Lianne J.
    very average fast food. Disappointed with our noodle meal – did not match the picture.

    Oh, apparently she means picture of the food, not the photo of Helen’s endorsement.

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  13. Concerned (36 comments) says:

    Would someone please articulate what the “conflict” Judith Collins is perceived to have engaged in? Who would benefit or be disadvantaged?

    What are the commercial rather than political ramifications?

    Thank you.

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  14. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    Those who are appalled by the fact that Judith Collins opened an office for a company her husband is a director of

    What I’m appalled by is Judith Collins’ arrogance, her lack of contrition, her failure to understand what a conflict of interest is, misleading the PM and lying to the public. But some on the Right seem to think that’s alright.

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  15. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    Hope, while you’re stuck inside a tent in the rain, you have a good think about doing a post on Collins. I’ll be waiting.

    There’s a greater probability that the missing plane will be found with every passenger still alive…

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  16. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    The Noodle Canteen, Tuwharetoa Street, Taupo has a photograph on a wall showing Helen Clark dining there with Management, which I figure amounts to endorsement because the only other photograph shows the same thing.

    Is or was Helen’s hubby Peter Davis a director or shareholder of the Noodle Canteen and has the Noodle Canteen made large donations to the Labour Party? No? Didn’t think so.

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  17. Ross12 (1,144 comments) says:

    To Graham , Itstricky and Ross69 — the real point here is most of us don’t think Judith Collins or Helen Clark did anything wrong.

    Prominent politicians open new factories , offices etc all the time. Similarly prominent politicians visit offices or factories overseas very often and if they think it will help NZ Inc they will probably have a photo op. The average voter outside the beltway would be happy with all that.

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  18. Ross12 (1,144 comments) says:

    ” Is or was Helen’s hubby Peter Davis a director or shareholder of the Noodle Canteen and has the Noodle Canteen made large donations to the Labour Party? No? Didn’t think so.”

    Is or was Union leaders involved in the Labour Party and did the union make donations to the Labour party ? Yes and Yes

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  19. m@tt (587 comments) says:

    David, you need to deal with the glaring difference that in Judith’s case she lied her arse off. Judging from the comments you are only fooling yourself and the self deluded by ignoring that.

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  20. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Envy of the left, they only get invited to events run by losers, looking for more taxpayers’ handouts; those of the right are invited to functions that are run by producers and taxpayers, not leeches. Ross 69 would be in the losers’ lineup, after all, he is a kept person, like all lefties, who knows everything, but does nothing.

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  21. OneTrack (2,574 comments) says:

    “Something tells me this is going to be a down’n’dirty election process.”

    It would be nice if Labour and the Greens focussed on their policies instead of name calling and gotcha. But, I guess, they have to focus on the things that are important to them.

    And policies can be “hard”, people ask nasty questions about them and the supply of beer coasters to write them down is running low. Better just to call people names and talk about glasses of milk.

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  22. itstricky (1,536 comments) says:

    Are you implying that’s what Collins did tricky?

    You are tricky aren’t you, in a weak, transparent sort of way. Just like your leader

    But in the same breath you imply that Clark did. From one article.from six years ago. Classy logic. And you lump everyone who’s slightly interested in what happened with this into the ‘Cunliffe supporting traitors’ category. More sound logic. Eww and you’ve picked up National and DPFs very obvious subliminal branding of Cunliffe as tricky. Wow.

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  23. RF (1,261 comments) says:

    I smell trolls. Has the standard closed down ?

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  24. burt (7,793 comments) says:

    Sofia

    One Review for Noodle Canteen
    Lianne J.
    very average fast food. Disappointed with our noodle meal – did not match the picture.

    I’ve seen that picture too. I looked at it and thought – did not match the billboard.

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  25. itstricky (1,536 comments) says:

    Ross12 you could quite possibly be right. But when DPF and WO present nothing about Collins but do trot out posts like this you can tell the PR machine is in full spin mode. Spin spin spin spinnity spin. And the good citizens of this.blog drink the blue coolade down like they’re supposed to. Here we go have another teaspoon… I am surprised by the way supposedly intelligent people just gobble this up. Just like The Standard…

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  26. itstricky (1,536 comments) says:

    Haha yep trolls as in “someone who asks questions”,- like “where are the posts on Collins like the ones on Shane whats-hi-name-from-tvnz” – yes you are 100% right. Has anyone given you your blue medicine today?

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  27. burt (7,793 comments) says:

    RF

    I don’t think it’s shut down, rather just an echo chamber now. I’ll not be surprised if we get 2 sites soon for Labour activists. One where lprent can spout on about his earth sciences degree and how the worst case predictions for AGW simply don’t go far enough. His pithy assertions about sea level rising intertwined with tech porn snippets like how he updated the java script for the comment editor on his iPad on the bus this morning. The second site focusing on more union centric Labour issues that aren’t directly related to throwing mud and Key and protesting it’s ok when Labour do it. Don’t hold your breath for a third site that has constructive policy debate.

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  28. Hamish_NZ (39 comments) says:

    It’s not the opening of the office that’s the problem, that’s a red hearing. If you read the article whaleoil has posted it has a quote from Cunliffes wife about how Labours global warming policy created the reason for the law firm being set up. Now isn’t this a greater case of conflict of interest for Cunliffe and Labour? Cunliffe and his family personally benefited from Labour’s policy. Indeed you could even argue that Cunliffe gave his wife a heads up about Labour policies in this area to give her company a material advantage over other lawyers. Unless Cunliffe and his wife don’t talk to each other it would be very hard for him to refute.

    Now that is a real breach of the cabinet manual.
    Question is will Cunliffe apply his own standard to himself and step down as leader of the Labour party and potential PM?
    No, didn’t think so. So obviously Collins doesn’t need to either.

    Edit:spelling

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  29. Judith (7,477 comments) says:

    Do whales have mummy fetishes?

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  30. Judith (7,477 comments) says:

    @ RF (1,093 comments) says:
    March 15th, 2014 at 8:49 am

    That’s not the smell of trolls, that’s the smell of opposition. Something some of you seem unable to deal with.

    Did you just expect this blog to be a sort of ‘you pat my ego and I’ll pat yours’ site? – obviously you don’t come here to share opinions – you only come here to be agreed with. How boring.

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  31. Nostalgia-NZ (4,898 comments) says:

    Why is there an image hanging over this thread of somebody blubbering in defence of themselves or their patrons by pointing out what they believe that somebody else did that was equally bad or worse. School yard much? I suppose we should be grateful that the ‘customary’ death threats claim has been omitted, for once.

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  32. Nostalgia-NZ (4,898 comments) says:

    If JC had followed the rules, submitted the details of her trip to cabinet in the form required JK, it would be assumed, would have informed her in writing that parts of her ‘visit’ to China as MOJ were inconsistent with that task and could invariably give an impression of self interest. But JC left those details out, we can assume because she didn’t want them known, that omission brings discredit to Cabinet foremost and Key as the Leader over no fault of their own – let down by a senior Minister readily willing to ‘confuse’ her warrant to the benefit of herself and her family. The result reflects on JK, particularly now because Collins claims to have been limited by JK as to what she may or may not say – who knows if that is true, but in any event if it is, then it is also indiscreet. In the meantime we have farce whereby Collins ‘plays the public’ by revealing what she claims was not talked about, but doesn’t reveal what was talked about during a ‘quick’ dinner (maybe takeaways, fish and chips on the trot in a 5 star hotel assumedly) – all of which goes back to her dishonesty with cabinet. Surely it shouldn’t be hard for a Minister of Justice to first of all follow the rules and to understand using or be seen to potentially using her position to the benefit of herself or her family is absolute ‘no go’ ground. On that basis was refusing to reveal it to cabinet, an ‘innocent’ gesture or as it appears completely deliberate?

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  33. berend (1,630 comments) says:

    To have a conflict of interest, whatever the party, surely it must be the case that if you ask the PM to come to your business, he does not come, while going to your competitor.

    Else it’s simply general advocacy I would say.

    Can we find anyone who has asked the PM to open an office, and he refused but did it for their competitor?

    In my opinion it’s impossible to find a politician who won’t turn up given the few opportunities they have to open an office.

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  34. doggone7 (677 comments) says:

    In his recent Herald interview Slater said he had good days and not so good. It must be fascinating watching what sort of a day it’s going to be. Does he search for moths and other errant insects to pull their wings off or put slaters upside down in honey at breakfast to watch them struggle?
    Before his feet even hit the floor has he determined how many nasty things he is going to in his day? When he can find nothing sinister to leap into how long does it take him to find some innocent incident or situation that he can attach an inflammatory, misleading headline on to get some nastiness going?
    What he produces reminds me of Mongo in ‘Blazing Saddles.’ Not Mongo himself of course, not the horse, but the stuff the horse leaves in the street.

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  35. CraigM (694 comments) says:

    Not that The whale wants, or needs, anyone to stand up for him…..but doggone…what a nasty sub species of human you are.
    And off topic to boot.

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  36. mikemikemikemike (301 comments) says:

    Seriously???

    /headdesk

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  37. doggone7 (677 comments) says:

    CraigM

    On topic according to the two paragraphs in the opening item. Cameron Slater knows it’s just a game and you can say and imply anything you want for affect. Of course we both prove that a real nasty burger, and being a “nasty sub species of human” is all a matter of perception and personal opinion. On a daily basis Slater posts vitriol. I post (I think) moderate, harmless views in this forum and on others. I still think it’s weird that when Judith Collins gets some of the treatment she dishes out to people she gets all upset and her supporters are angered. I hold a mirror up to the observed behaviour of one of her prime on-line cheerleaders and I need head help.
    Just the way the game is played I guess.

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  38. UglyTruth (3,944 comments) says:

    I still think it’s weird that when Judith Collins gets some of the treatment she dishes out to people she gets all upset and her supporters are angered.

    It’s double standards. Collins expects obedience to the rules that she makes, but the dishonourable woman breaks the rules about perception of corruption and fobs it of as trying to help a NZ exporter out.

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  39. Fisiani (944 comments) says:

    This is getting pathetic. So a politician cuts a ribbon or praises an exporter . So what? Is this the pettiness that will plague election 2014? Hopefully it will be a stoush in the beltway March 2014. None of the revelations will make someone change their vote in September. It’s just small beer. Labour are desperate for relevance. Every day that this is in the headlines is a day closer to Sep 20th where they will be ignored.

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  40. itstricky (1,536 comments) says:

    Not that The whale wants, or needs, anyone to stand up for him

    I think he does (need someone to stand up for him) – he did start crying when he was taken offline for a couple of days, remember.

    but doggone…what a nasty sub species of human you are.

    I’m not sure that very valid comment was any nastier than one suggesting that an accidental death of a child did the world a favour by removing a ‘feral’. Now that’s the definition of nasty.

    And here we have mummy’s bidding. Please Cameron darling, please spend hours trawling inconsequential garbage from six years ago to deflect away from me… …please…

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  41. Mark (1,359 comments) says:

    Of course its a nonsense but the reality is Labour scored a significant hit against Collins, one of Nationals best performing ministers. It will not releive the pressure on the gaffe prone Cunliffe for long however it is a reality that blogging about the PM opening a law firm in Auckland is not going to help. Better just to let it die and move on as Collins, no doubt, already has.

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  42. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    JOhn KEY

    can endorse what ever he likes and people can use his image how ever they like APPARENTLY

    of course there are SEVERE LEGAL CONSEQUENCES

    IF YOU DARE TO LOOK FOR THE TRUTH

    THERE IS A LAW AND LAWYERS
    PREVENTING YOUR FROM KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT
    WAS IN JOHN BANKS

    TEA LEAVES

    http://www.farmingshow.com/news/nbrur/john-key-unimpressed-by-baby-formula-ad

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/8284962/Mixed-reception-for-Key-at-Big-Gay-Out

    http://www.meganews.co.nz/news/29-oct-2013/john-banks-and-matter-integrity

    OF COURSE HE IS GOING TO ENDORSE “SOME” LAWYERS

    WHAT IS THE PROBLEM

    Jesus next thing you will say is you can’t prove or dis prove that
    him and John Banks were

    well you know “Buddies” of “some sort”
    in a brotherly sense and what is wrong with them having
    a

    Private Brotherly chat

    and if they need lawyers to UN ENDORSE What was said
    that is fine

    In a Totalitarian State

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism

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  43. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Has Peter Davis been to the States lately?

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