The biggest presidential lies

March 29th, 2014 at 7:00 am by David Farrar

The Washington Post has compiled a list of what it says are the biggest President lies since WWII. They include:

  • Eisenhower on the U2 spy plane, which he lied about
  • JFK stating that the US does not intend to militarily intervene in Cuba
  • LBJ on the Gulf of Tonkin incident which allowed him to escalate the Vietnam War
  • Nixon and secret bombings on Cambodia and Watergate
  • Reagan in denying Iran-Contra
  • Bush 41 on claims Iraq had pulled Kuwaiti babies from incubators
  • Clinton on not having sex with Lewinsky
  • Bush 43 on claims Iraq had WMDs
  • Obama on claims Americans will be able to keep their insurance plans if they want to

The Bush 41 and Bush 43 ones are debatable as there is no evidence that they did not believe what they said was correct. The other earlier ones are all clear lies, where the President knew what they said was false.

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62 Responses to “The biggest presidential lies”

  1. Harriet (4,523 comments) says:

    “…..» Bush 43 on claims Iraq had WMDs….”

    I seriously doubt he lied David. If the CH-CH Press is to believed!

    It is the truth that the CH CH Press had an in depth report in the late 1990′s that the NZ SIS had informed a NZ company that an overseas order that had been placed with that company was for Saddam’s chemical warfare programme[from memory it was some hi-tec ceramic parts.]

    Also in that artical was the fact that Saddam had placed orders with US uni’s to supply him with a substance that aids in the growth of chemical compounds – all hospitals use it too – except Saddam placed HUGE orders for it. From memory it was called ……’*something* media’

    It is the truth that he USED them on Kurds in Northern Iraq.

    It is also the truth that he did so to stop Iran from going to war with him.

    EDIT: It might have actually been in NZ’s SUNDAY Paper.

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  2. EAD (618 comments) says:

    Not a “presidential” lie but it is from the man, who was up until very recently the head of the privately owned Federal Reserve that allowed a small group of powerful, wealthy and unaccountable men to control the currency of a nation since 1913 and destroy 98% of the value of the dollar and allowed various presidents to fund the biggest welfare/warfare ponzi the world has ever seen.

    1min 07sec of a very illuminating interview that by his unconcealed lying, inadvertently tells the biggest truth of the lot:

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  3. EAD (618 comments) says:

    The other economic lies I would are:

    “we have a strong dollar policy” – yeah right
    “All of our social security promises will be honoured and the National Debt is under control” – yeah right
    “Inflation is less than 2% and we must avoid scary deflation” – yeah because the price of goods getting cheaper due to efficiencies will harm the economy
    “The American economy is growing strongly” http://www.theburningplatform.com/2014/03/24/the-fourteen-year-recession/

    And whilst not technically a lie, perhaps the most hypocritical of recent times was Secretary of State, John “Kohn” Kerry saying “You just don’t invade another country on a completely trumped up pretext”

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  4. Nostalgia-NZ (4,913 comments) says:

    If a person isn’t sure themselves isn’t the language to be used ‘I have been told,’ or ‘it has been reported to me’ or ‘I am led to believe.’ I can’t buy that a President wouldn’t understand that so it’s not that he or she didn’t know that it was a lie – but more simply that they did lie.

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  5. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Why have messengers of the left (I can’t call them journalists) failed to show lies and deception committed by Islamist leaning Obama?

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  6. OneTrack (2,613 comments) says:

    igm – Because he is the messiah, come down from heaven to save the world from the neolibs. And he’s black. You cant criticise a non-white without risking being called a “racist”, which is about the worst insult you can give to a lefty.

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  7. Judith (7,631 comments) says:

    Well its good to see that Clinton told the least powerful lie of all. The ol’ guy is still one very sexy dude!

    It’s a bit of a ‘let he among you who is without sin, cast the first stone’ situation, isn’t it? Politicians lie, the longer they hang around in politics usually the bigger the liar they are.

    In order to get the people’s vote, you have to tell them what they want to hear, and nobody likes hearing the truth about themselves, or their futures, so yep, the presidents lied. The list above is a representative list, and certainly not complete.

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  8. stephieboy (2,186 comments) says:

    EAD, try to stick to topic instead of going out on a tangent about Federal Reserve and other banking relating conspiracies.Myths relating to the US banking system and especially the Federal Reserve are covered below. Your first mistake is to say that the reserve is privately owned and leaving it there.As we see it’s in fact controlled by a publicly appoined board of governors.

    http://www.publiceye.org/conspire/flaherty/Federal_Reserve.html

    Harriet you provide a highly dubious description of a WMD.The irony here is that the US originally supplied Saddamm Hussein with many of those chemical weapons he used against the Kurds.Depends what you define a WMD.
    Thoughts. ??

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  9. Paulus (2,502 comments) says:

    Saddam Hussein did have chemical weapons – he used them on the Kurds.
    When the shit hit the fan he shipped all that he had by road to Syria, who are currently maybe disposing of them.
    Please tell me why the US troops found abandoned chemical cartable lorries empty in the desert on the road to Syria ?

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  10. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Judith: Go get on your mobility scooter and take your candle with you.

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  11. stephieboy (2,186 comments) says:

    ign,one track there you both go out on another simply mindless tangent directed naturally at the “Islamist leading Obama”etc.
    Be honest and both admit that like other Birthers , tea Baggers and other assorted nutters can’t stand the thought of a Black family in the Whitehouse .!

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  12. jcuk (586 comments) says:

    As I remember it Clinton said he had not had ‘sexual intercourse’ with monica and of course a ‘blow job’ is not intercourse.

    IGM I doubt if Obama is leaning to Islam with his Catholic connections

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  13. itstricky (1,569 comments) says:

    Why have messengers of the left (I can’t call them journalists) failed to show lies and deception committed by Islamist leaning Obama?

    Because he is the messiah, come down from heaven to save the world from the neolibs. And he’s black. You cant criticise a non-white without risking being called a “racist”

    But hold on, you’re the one who just introduced his skin colour into the conversation. You didn’t have to. But you did. And if he was white you wouldn’t have introduced his skin colour into the conversation. So there we go, some would say “you started it”

    That darn terriost loving, illegal immigrant, lizard-alien-from-outta-space Kenyan. How could he have ever got there under his own steam? He must be a fakey.

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  14. Judith (7,631 comments) says:

    @ jcuk (476 comments) says:
    March 29th, 2014 at 9:13 am

    I remember a rather hilarious conversation at the time of the Clinton ‘affair’ regarding whether a ‘blow job’ was in fact ‘sexual relations’ by both those involved. According to one ‘expert’, obviously a male, he said that the males role in such an act was a physical response and therefore could not be fully regarded as being complacent in the act.

    The question was then raised as to why the President would be wandering round with his male appendage exposed, to be ‘taken advantage’ of. An oversight from toilet perhaps. One commentator suggest perhaps he was on the phone to the Queen, and felt it would have been rude to interrupt the conversation, and with a cigar in his other hand, what was the man to do?

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  15. itstricky (1,569 comments) says:

    Be honest and both admit that like other Birthers , tea Baggers and other assorted nutters…

    http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/BIRTHER%20CASE%20LIST.pdf

    Total Actions:226
    Birthers win: 0
    Birthers lose:220
    Pending:6

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  16. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    jcuk: He has no Catholic connections, he has a hypocritical, left-wing agenda, making a visit to our Pope trying to gain some traction.

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  17. jcuk (586 comments) says:

    The anti-Obama mob, and they do not deserve to be called anything else with the crazy ideas they have,[ and Catholic to boot “our pope” LOL } would be very funny if the matter wasn’t so serious.
    He could have been the best thing for America except for the RWNJ blocking him at every step … it is all very dissapointing to those who would like to see America crawl out of the hole it has dug for itself. But I fear the walls are too steep and thier efforts simply make the hole deeper.

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  18. itstricky (1,569 comments) says:

    …making a visit to our Pope trying to gain some traction.

    I hope you’ve taken all necessary precautions to make sure he’s not walking into The Vatican with 20 sticks of TNT under his cashmere jersey. I mean he is a terrorist loving extremist, after all.

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  19. stephieboy (2,186 comments) says:

    itstrcky,jcuk,

    Why do you both believe in weird things.?

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  20. WineOh (553 comments) says:

    Regarding WMD’s, while Hussein had chemical weapons in the past (and yes used them on the Kurds… who the US & allies totally abandoned after calling for an uprising against Hussein in Gulf War I)… he dismantled and destroyed or disposed of virtually all of these. In the leadup to Gulf War II Iraq had complied with virtually ALL the requirements from the West around inspections of weapon sites and facilities that could be potentially used to developing a nuclear program. The US deliberately made higher and more onerous requirements to create a ficticious ‘casus belli’ for invasion. So yes, it was a clear lie and deserves to be on the list.

    I would also include “We do not torture” on the list by Bush 43.

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  21. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    No What about some Truth
    The Zapruda film was altered

    What about the changes to The American Banking System JFK proposed

    that really ensured his assassination

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  22. stephieboy (2,186 comments) says:

    Ben Dover , the allegation that JFK was assassinated due his Exexective Order 11, 110 is an undiluted myth
    .From my link above ,

    http://www.publiceye.org/conspire/flaherty/flaherty9.html

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  23. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    Yes Yes

    that would be like asking Stalin to hold elections
    B A N G or was it

    Bang bang bang

    The Zaprruda film was retouched so the blast on his head looked like it came from another direction
    so the

    Biggest truth
    is a LIE

    Well Done

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  24. mikenmild (10,744 comments) says:

    This is a most promising thread. We’ve already had crazy beliefs aired about the Federal Reserve, Obama’s birth and the JFK assasination. I’m looking forward to the rest of the ‘discussion’.

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  25. stephieboy (2,186 comments) says:

    Sorry Ben Dover , there is no evidence that the Zarprder fiilm was faked or tamperded with.The allegation arose by CTers to try to make their magic bullet theory( ie a shot or shots came from the grassy knoll ) fit the known facts.,

    http://jfkmurdersolved.com/myths.htm.

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  26. EAD (618 comments) says:

    It is still my belief that JFK, Martin Luther King and then Bobby Kennedy were all shot dead by “lone” gunmen because they all believed and spoke in the same “truths” that run polar opposite to the almost universal agenda of modern politicians:

    1) they believe in peace, not sending men to die in unnecessary wars
    2) they believed the power to create money should not be with Central and Private bankers and should be with the people
    3) they believed in equality for ALL races and that all men were created equal. Not this fake “equality” we have today which empowers governments to pit one group against another and keeps society divided.

    Compare MLK and his “I Have a Dream” speech given from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial (August 28, 1963) with JFK and his American University Commencement Address (June 10, 1963), both spoke the truth beautifully and elegantly: “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” “For in the final analysis, our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this small planet. We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children’s futures. And we are all mortal.” The mere fact that they were killed by the “lone nut coincidence theory,” as was with Bobby and many others, should indicate the degree of effectiveness that they were beginning to make in the scheme of things at waking up the masses to the great truths.

    Every single President since Kennedy has been controlled. The 2 great hopes since who have spoken with great rhetoric of real change, Reagan and Obama were both shown to have exactly the same agenda as everyone since Kennedy.

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  27. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    Who shot him stephie?

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  28. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    ‘Though I was born in the same district in which Ned Kelly did his bushranging, I did not inherit his methods.’

    Victory 1935
    http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/speech/34030/michael-joseph-savages-victory-speech-1935

    Declarations of War 1939
    http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/speech/34551/new-zealand-declares-war-on-germany

    Biography
    http://home.vicnet.net.au/~tathg/Savage/michaelsavage.htm

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  29. Fletch (6,026 comments) says:

    Actually, there most likely were WMD’s in Iraq.

    According to the second in command of Saddam’s air force, the WMD’s were moved out of the country to Syria.
    That’s likely where the chemical weapons that Assad used recently came from.

    In 2006, former Iraqi general Georges Sada, second in command of the
    Iraqi Air Force who served under Saddam Hussein before he defected,
    wrote a comprehensive book, “Saddam’s Secrets.”

    It details how the Iraqi Revolutionary Guard moved weapons of mass
    destruction into Syria in advance of the U.S.-led action to eliminate
    Hussein’s WMD threat.

    As Sada told the New York Sun, two Iraqi Airways Boeings were
    converted to cargo planes by removing the seats, and special Republican
    Guard units loaded the planes with chemical weapons materials.

    There were 56 flights disguised as a relief effort after a 2002 Syrian dam collapse.

    There were also truck convoys into Syria. Sada’s comments came more
    than a month after Israel’s top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom,
    Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam “transferred the chemical agents
    from Iraq to Syria.”

    Both Israeli and U.S. intelligence observed large truck convoys
    leaving Iraq and entering Syria in the weeks and months before Operation
    Iraqi Freedom, John Shaw, former deputy undersecretary of defense for
    international technology security, told a private conference of former
    weapons inspectors and intelligence experts held in Arlington, Va., in
    2006.

    According to Shaw, ex-Russian intelligence chief Yevgeni Primakov, a
    KGB general with long-standing ties to Saddam, went to Iraq in December
    2002 and stayed until just before the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003.

    http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/071912-618875-syria-chemical-weapons-came-from-iraq-.htm?p=full

    In addition to that, Bette Middler tweeted in October of last year a criticism of Bush and his ‘lie’ about the WMD’s. She was answered by Waarant Officer Rick Elliot SFG, who was there –

    “@BetteMidler – I was there. While we waited for Congress & the U.N to vote for the invasion, many convoys went into Syria from Iraq”.

    http://weaselzippers.us/159465-us-army-warrant-officer-schools-bette-midler-that-there-were-wmds-in-iraq/

    Includes screencaps of tweets.

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  30. EAD (618 comments) says:

    It’s funny, how many American Presidents have issued warnings about the dangers of Central Banks but in the eyes of Stephie and Milkenmaid, they must be all “conspiracy theorists”

    “Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce.” – James Garfield

    “All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise, not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as from the downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.” – John Adams

    “I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.” – Woodrow Wilson, after signing the Federal Reserve into existence

    “Paper money has had the effect in your state that it will ever have, to ruin commerce, oppress the honest, and open the door to every species of fraud and injustice.” – George Washington

    “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks…will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs” – Thomas Jefferson

    The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson – Franklin D. Roosevelt

    Conspiracy Theorists the lot of them :)

    http://www.themoneymasters.com/the-money-masters/famous-quotations-on-banking/

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  31. ShawnLH (3,454 comments) says:

    “failed to show lies and deception committed by Islamist leaning Obama?”

    There are many things to be critical of in terms of Obama’s policies. But statements claiming he is Muslim or Islamist “leaning” are just plain silly.

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  32. ShawnLH (3,454 comments) says:

    “except for the RWNJ blocking him at every step”

    Right Wing New Jersey? ;)

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  33. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    really the Foundations of New Zealand Democracy start in Victoria Australia.

    With Michael Joseph Savage.

    Victoria was harsh and corrupt and reformed to an extent and living in that environment gave MJS the resolve to form something sane, pragmatic and just in NZ.

    Most Prime Ministers in Labour and National have also – lost the plot.

    You are better served reading up on the corrupt practices of Squatters (in Victoria) to realise why
    Sound Pragmatic Government is something we can not take for granted.

    If you visit Victoria in the same Hall as all the Ned Kelly Memorabilia there is a small room dedicated to “Michael Joseph Savage”- you are allowed a “free cup of tea”.

    It is Fantastic.

    With an old Photo of “Bastion Point”

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  34. ShawnLH (3,454 comments) says:

    “Be honest and both admit that like other Birthers , tea Baggers and other assorted nutters can’t stand the thought of a Black family in the Whitehouse .!”

    Stephie, stop making this claim. Now. Accusing people of racism simply for being opposed to Obama’s policies is stupid, childish, and no better than other peoples conspiracy theories. You put yourself on the same level as Ugly Truth or Reid with this dumb crap.

    Grow up.

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  35. stephieboy (2,186 comments) says:

    Ben Dover,

    Who shot JFK .?
    Lee Harvey Oswald IMO.
    The difficulty many CTers like you find hard to accept is the fact that someone as inconsequential as Oswald could assinate someone of consequence,!

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  36. stephieboy (2,186 comments) says:

    Shawn, LH Childish stupid claims about Obama.? I f you take the trouble and examine closely the Birther and Tea Party movements one can only come to one conclusion that both are largely motivated by animosity towards the first black Presodent of the USA.An animosity that is largely a racially bseas one IMO.
    BTW are you a Birther by chance .?
    An aside , do think it’s your. ” libertarian right ” ( let’s say a private right ) to racially abuse and squander at will.?

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  37. ShawnLH (3,454 comments) says:

    “I f you take the trouble and examine closely the Birther and Tea Party movements one can only come to one conclusion that both are largely motivated by animosity towards the first black Presodent of the USA.An animosity that is largely a racially bseas one IMO.”

    Your cultural Marxist assumption ignores that many are just opposed to his policies. Your assume a racial conspiracy because you refuse to admit that people might actually be opposed to his policies because they are in fact opposed to his policies.

    “BTW are you a Birther by chance .?”

    No. And look above at my post about the claim that He is a Muslim is silly.

    “An aside , do think it’s your. ” libertarian right ” ( let’s say a private right ) to racially abuse ”

    Your the one racially abusing here. You abuse me and every other non-white person who opposes Obama when you make this childish claim. There are African American conservatives and libertarians who also oppose Obama. There are Native Americans who oppose Obama. There are Asians who oppose Obama. Are they all racist?

    Your infantile “your just a racist” claim is just a way to abuse those who disagree with you.

    I have looked closely at the Tea Party movement. Your claim that it is all just racist is not backed by the facts. But then all you do is google Left wing web sites to get your information.

    That is not looking closely at anything. It is navel gazing.

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  38. ShawnLH (3,454 comments) says:

    Stehie, question. Are you white?

    If so, here is why I find your accusation offensive. Something your racial ancestors did to mine.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

    I oppose Obama because I oppose his policies. There may well be racists on the fringe of anti-Obama sentiment, but your constant accusation that anyone opposed to him is opposed to his being black is deeply, deeply offensive to me.

    Or is short, and to paraphrase Shane Jones,I won’t be lectured to about race by a white boy.

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  39. stephieboy (2,186 comments) says:

    If you go back to my post re the Birthers and Tea Party I clearly stated “” largely ” are motivated .I did not every one of them.I stand by my statement that most of them (but not all ) are motivated by a racial based animosity towards Obama and his family .
    Be offended if you want to be but I again stand by my claims as above , notwithstanding that you are ,indeed an exception.!

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  40. ShawnLH (3,454 comments) says:

    Stephie, “largely” is also wrong. And your habit of throwing the accusation at those on KB ends now. If not, I’ll play exactly the same game with you, and see how you like it.

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  41. ShawnLH (3,454 comments) says:

    The problem here is not your standard brand left wing view of overseas movements, but your way of casually throwing the accusation at specific people here on KB. Others may indulge this behavior. I don’t. It would be different if there was reasonable evidence that an individual is in fact promoting racist views. But simply opposing Obama’s policies is not reasonable evidence.

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  42. stephieboy (2,186 comments) says:

    I will not listen to your threats and you can play whatever game you choose and see how I like it ( whatever potential nastiness that might imply )
    This link here underscores much of the racism behind the Birther movement including aclink to thevNew York Times editorial that I believe takes up my position,

    http://theweek.com/article/index/214793/why-birthers-wont-quit-racism

    I happen to to as a matter of my opinion agree with it.
    Yourself.?

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  43. ShawnLH (3,454 comments) says:

    The discussion that began this issue had nothing to do with Birthers. It had to do with someone simply disagreeing with Obama’s policies. Your trying, desperately and pathetically, to change the subject to deflect from your appalling behavior.

    Accusations of racism are extremely serious. They should not be made casually, and certainly not, as you do, simply as a tactic to tar your political opponents with.

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  44. ShawnLH (3,454 comments) says:

    15 Moronic Things Liberals Call Racism Since Obama Was Elected.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2013/08/27/15-moronic-things-liberals-call-racism-since-obama-was-elected-n1674131/page/full

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  45. stephieboy (2,186 comments) says:

    It’s my view that e.g No 15 by Jimmy Carter’s opinion is a very tenable and reasonable one, moronic or not. Am quite confident that John Hawkins would not of written it if the present incumbent was one, white, two either or both parents born in say Canada , three then emigrated and granted US citizenship and finally the white incumbent born of them in Hawaii.
    It’s a platitude to state otherwise.

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  46. tom hunter (4,422 comments) says:

    Accusations of racism are extremely serious.

    but your constant accusation that anyone opposed to him is opposed to his being black is deeply, deeply offensive to me.

    @Shawn
    Perhaps I’ve been commenting on KB for too many years while you’re new here, but I think you’re taking exactly the wrong approach with this, especially when involved in political discussions. Being called a racist has been the standard tactic of leftists for a long time now and it’s purpose is to deflect the debate.

    There’s nothing the Stephieboy’s of this world love more than hurling that accusation and getting people like you offended, stamping your foot and loudly saying “I am not a racist”. From their perspective it’s brilliant: you’re on the defensive, arguing something that cannot be falsified (not that they would care anyway), and being completely taken off topic.

    If you think this idiot is bad you should have seen some of the ones from the past on KB!

    And on that note, take a look at this nasty piece of work sticking it to The LightWorker. A typical piece of white trash, and she even burns a sacred Obama image – an we all know that tells something about what she’d really like to do if whe had the chance. Disgusting. Stephieboy needs to get on to this sort of real racism pronto: perhaps sending a set of KKK sheets to her.

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  47. griffith (1,111 comments) says:

    You get that from your daughter tom?

    Teeny girl with a problem because nasty obuma kept her waiting for three whole hours.

    :lol:

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  48. Fletch (6,026 comments) says:

    I don’t think the tea party are motivated by race at all. There is nothing to support this. Many would vote for Allan West, Herman Cain or Elbert Guillory. It’s just race baiting to say people don’t like Obama because he is black.

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  49. mikenmild (10,744 comments) says:

    Yeah, but the whole birther thing is a barely coded racist attack. It has its roots in a feeling that something about Obama can’t be right because he is so…different.

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  50. Fentex (867 comments) says:

    Eisenhower on the U2 spy plane, which he lied about.
    Clinton on not having sex with Lewinsky.
    Obama on claims Americans will be able to keep their insurance plans if they want to.

    Trying to keep a secret about his military’s technical capability, attempting to avoid a personal scandal and a relatively minor matter regarding which insurance plan a person would end up with (perhaps costing some more money I suppose is the complaint) are compared on equal terms with lying to enable wars and/or murder people?

    If I were looking for a comparable lie to hang on Obama I’d pick the one where he claims authority to murder U.S citizens or trying to hide gross abuses by security apparatus against citizens personal privacy and property, not the relatively trivial one over improving his countries health care.

    Some screwed up priorities there I think.

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  51. ShawnLH (3,454 comments) says:

    The fact that Obama sat happily in racist Jeremiah Wright’s “church” listening to his anti-Jewish rantings is clear evidence of the racism and anti-Jewish hatred of the Obama-Left.

    The question is why Barack Obama, raised without any faith at all, chose one of the most incendiary preachers in Black America to preach the word of God to him. Wright became, in Obama’s words, “like family to me. [Wright] strengthened my faith, officiated my wedding, and baptized my children.”

    This is the guy who Obama was happy to have officiate at his wedding and baptize his children: Wright’s anti-Semitism reared its ugly head in June 2009. “Them Jews ain’t going to let him talk to me,” he told the Daily Press of Hampton Roads, Virginia. They were “controlling” Obama.

    http://spectator.org/articles/36529/gospel-according-wright

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  52. ShawnLH (3,454 comments) says:

    I guess stephie is quite happy associating with racist Jew-haters, so long as they support Obama.

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  53. tom hunter (4,422 comments) says:

    … not the relatively trivial one over improving his countries health care.

    Ah yes. The Noble Lie

    I guess stephie is quite happy associating with racist Jew-haters, so long as they support Obama.

    That’s the spirit Shawn!!!!

    For an extra laugh go and check out the Southern Democrat who recently went after Clarence Thomas because he’s married to a white girl. Typical for an Alabama Democrat but sadly not untypical of the racist shit that’s been chucked at him for decades now.

    Doesn’t seem “coded” either.

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  54. ShawnLH (3,454 comments) says:

    Yes, I’m curious what stephieboy has to say about Obama spending so much time with Wright that he considered the man family, when Wright blames the Jews for negative publicity about him. There is no way that Obama could not have heard this kind of anti-Jewish hate if he spent that much time with him. But he only “repudiated” Wright when he became inconvenient to his Presidential bid.

    And Wright’s views about Jews are not unusual on the Black Democratic Left. I guess some people only see the racism they want to, when it’s politically convenient.

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  55. ShawnLH (3,454 comments) says:

    More racism on the Obama Left.

    The New Black Panther Party and Obama appointee Eric Holder’s liberal racism:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/mar/3/eric-holders-liberal-racism/

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  56. tom hunter (4,422 comments) says:

    Yes, I’m curious what stephieboy has to say about Obama spending so much time with Wright …

    Don’t be. In Stephieworld all this was answered way back in 2008 by Obama’s wonderful speech about the “problem” and “that’s not the Jeremiah Wright I know” schtick. Classic political spin where a negative is turned into a positive. Obama said such nice things about healing racism in America that his MSM sychophants dropped the whole Reverend Wright question. It was so beautifully played that even the normally savage Clinton machine had its teeth pulled on the subject.

    You could run a Google search on Kiwiblog for that year and observe lots of Stephieboys in full “Wind Under My Wings” Obama flight. My favourite was an ex-Labour press secretary named “Jafapete”. Like my Obama-voting relatives in Chicago they’re very, very quiet and sad now and in the context of KB, appear to have vanished from the blog altogether.

    Stephieboy is an antique remnant of those joyous, golden days. He does not even suffer the bitter sense of betrayal you see from the Obama-YouTube-girl I linked to. We should enjoy him for the nostalgia at least.

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  57. Crusader (279 comments) says:

    ‘Though I was born in the same district in which Ned Kelly did his bushranging,

    I have always thought “bush ranging” sounded a bit risque…

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  58. ShawnLH (3,454 comments) says:

    Yes, I never bought the whole “post race” claim. A President who was post race would never have appointed racist nutter Eric Holder to the DOJ. Holder on his own has done more to set back race relations than all the neo-Nazis and KKK nuts combined.

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  59. Ed Snack (1,738 comments) says:

    Addressed most specifically to mike mild but also stephie and the other racists. You should remember who started the whole birther meme in the first place….the Clinton campaign.

    And just as a reminder, the Tea Party people are essential anti-racist by the old definition, that is they wish to follow the MLK stricture of judging a man by the content of his character and not the colour of his skin. But that is racism these days, as the new definition is anyone who doesn’t agree 100% with Obama and think the sun shines out of his arse is a racist. So Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, and Thomas Sowell are all utter racists and can be disparaged as they often are as “uncle toms” and planation dwellers, without a problem, by anyone white or black, because they have the wrong beliefs.

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  60. tom hunter (4,422 comments) says:

    You should remember who started the whole birther meme in the first place….the Clinton campaign.

    In the same way that the first group to start hitting Dukakis about the black parole murderer, Willie Horton – was the Al Gore campaign during the 1988 Democrat primary. I didn’t find that out until more than a decade later – which made me feel rather annoyed about wanting Bill Clinton to defeat G H W Bush in 1992, largely because I thought the GOP Willie Horton attacks had been so despicable.

    Pfft. And then Lefties wonder why the Right gives less than a shit if the Legacy Media dies. Man am I grateful to the Internet.

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  61. UglyTruth (4,000 comments) says:

    It’s not really a lie that he told, but Truman kept significant information from the American public regarding the Roswell incident.

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  62. Fentex (867 comments) says:

    … not the relatively trivial one over improving his countries health care.

    Ah yes. The Noble Lie

    I think this misses the point. I don’t know much about the supposed lie regarding insurance plans but I’m confident that as far as worst lies told by U.S Presidents go it’s not in the same league as those lies used to actively pursue war and kill people.

    Obama has also told lies to justify murder and much more serious crimes than misleading people to enact some changes to healthcare (I get that botching healthcare up badly enough could kill a lot of people but I don’t think that’s the argument) and my point isn’t that he may or may not be right to do so but that as far as lies go it’s a relatively petty one to focus on compared to most others in that list.

    It may be a lie, I don’t claim there’s anything noble about it, but it isn’t as bad a lie as claiming he has authority to murder anyone, U.S citizens included, at his personal whim.

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