The man who wants to pick the next PM

March 27th, 2014 at 9:15 pm by David Farrar

Seven Sharp had the great idea that as has started his own political party, and wants to basically pick the next Prime Minister, they’d ask him a few very simple and basic questions about the NZ political system. You can watch it here.

Here’s what he could and could not answer:

  • No of MPs in Parliament – no idea
  • No of parties in Parliament – 10 – wrong (8)
  • Deputy Leader of Labour – Grant Robertson – wrong (David Parker)
  • Deputy Leader of National – Bill English – right
  • Most right party in Parliament – National – wrong (ACT)
  • Most left party in Parliament – Mana – right
  • 2nd on Mana’s list – no idea
  • Most important NZ election in last 30 years – no idea

Also stay on for the segment at the end with Mike Hosking relating the phone calls he gets from Dotcom!

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54 Responses to “The man who wants to pick the next PM”

  1. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    Actually, that’s a reasonably challenging quiz. I reckon I would have got four.

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  2. davidp (3,581 comments) says:

    As an aside, I’d like to compare two historical figures against a number of objective criteria…

    Has a giant narcissistic ego.
    Hitler: Check.
    Dotcom: Check.

    As a foreigner, used another country’s political system for his own amusement.
    Hitler: Check. As an Austrian in Germany.
    Dotcom: Check. As a German in NZ.

    Owns a copy of Mein Kampf.
    Hitler: Check.
    Dotcom: Check. But only as a reference source for his video gaming, mind you.

    Lives in a big house.
    Hitler: Check. Berchtesgaden.
    Dotcom: Check. Coatesville.

    Surrounded himself with bodyguards.
    Hitler: Check.
    Dotcom: Check.

    Treats his staff badly.
    Hitler: Check. Some met their ends in unfortunate accidents while others were just executed.
    Dotcom: Check. Doesn’t pay them and threatens them when they complain.

    Not very popular with American government.
    Hitler: Check.
    Dotcom: Check.

    Surrounds himself with feeble minions.
    Hitler: Check. Speer, Goering, Himmler.
    Dotcom: Check. Bradbury, Norman, Edgeler.

    Has certain members of the media fawning over his every word.
    Hitler: Check. Riefenstahl, Goebbels.
    Dotcom: Check. Fisher, Thompson.

    Spent time in prison.
    Hitler: Check.
    Dotcom: Check.

    Has a Nazi flag at home.
    Hitler: Check.
    Dotcom: Check.

    Operates under a cloud of secrecy.
    Hitler: Check. Living in a bunker.
    Dotcom: Check. Using injunctions to silence critics.

    Likes a black uniform.
    Hitler: Check.
    Dotcom: Check.

    Has performed in front of a large crowd.
    Hitler: Check. Nuremberg.
    Dotcom: Check. Rhythm and Vines. Altho it is noted that Hitler didn’t have to pay Nuremberg to let him perform.

    Has a big problem with Jews.
    Hitler: Check.
    Dotcom: Check. Seems to be the only person in NZ who doesn’t like our Jewish PM.

    Has invaded Poland.
    Hitler: Check.
    Dotcom: No.

    So the differences? Dotcom hasn’t invaded Poland. Yet.

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  3. Than (473 comments) says:

    Most of those questions were pretty hard, average kiwi’s wouldn’t have been able to answer them. That said, not knowing the number of MPs and not knowing about Act shows a basic lack of understanding about NZ politics.

    But Dotcom’s response sums him up in a nutshell – “I’ll know the answers tomorrow, I promise”.

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  4. Nostalgia-NZ (5,202 comments) says:

    He probably scored as high as the average person would in the general population. ‘Informed’ isn’t necessarily a merit point, the thing which most matters is votes. A traditional background in politics is possibly unimportant across the spectrum as JK has exampled. The Internet Party is alive despite claims that it was weeks ago consigned to the grave yard. Big suck a lemon for the beached one working as an operative ‘under cover.’

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  5. Keeping Stock (10,339 comments) says:

    This whole business about Dotcom wanting to “pick the next government” troubles me somewhat. Isn’t’ that why we hold elections? So that we, the voters of New Zealand can pick the government, not a man who isn’t’ even qualified to stand as a candidate here, but who thinks that he can buy political influence.

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  6. Yogibear (366 comments) says:

    The only think that would have made the piece better was a sneaky handover to a clip from Hogans Heroes, with Sargent Shultz (or is that Shmidt) shouting “I know noth-think!!!!”

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  7. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    KS
    I wouldn’t worry too much about Dotcom. Winston will be picking the next government.

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  8. Zapper (1,021 comments) says:

    I wouldn’t have got David Parker, but apart from that, any amateur can get those surely.

    Incidentally, if Kiwiblog is the Arts and Travel blog, Whaleoil is surely now simply the Dotcom blog. 2-3 posts an hour on him! Don’t get me wrong, I love that Cameron Slater is exposing the fraud, but surely the posts can be bundled up?

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  9. edhunter (546 comments) says:

    So what’s the answer to the last one? 1984?

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  10. Nostalgia-NZ (5,202 comments) says:

    It’s MMP KS, employed as it always has been. More interesting to me is the ammunition unwisely spent on trying to sink the good ship ‘Internet.’

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  11. Than (473 comments) says:

    The Internet Party is alive despite claims that it was weeks ago consigned to the grave yard.

    The Internet Party (or rather Kim Dotcom) is still newsworthy, i.e. entertaining enough that people read articles about it/him. That’s not the same as having any realistic chance of political success.

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  12. SGA (1,028 comments) says:

    Most right party in Parliament – National – wrong (ACT)

    Come on, be fair people. He had John Banks as his main reference point :-)

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  13. davidp (3,581 comments) says:

    The best part of this is… When is the last time anyone heard from Cunliffe? Maybe is is enjoying an overseas holiday somewhere without the telephone or internet. But more likely he is beavering away releasing policy and trying to land a hit on Collins or Parata or whichever National Minister they’re targeting this week. And nobody hears him because Dotcom and his bizarre political lunacy have taken over the entirety of the opposition parties’ media bandwidth. Cunliffe may think that is a good thing, since he isn’t in the news every day being corrupt and secretive, botching policy announcements, and fronting for declining polls. But by September, most voters are going to have forgotten the name of the leader of the Labour Party. All they’ll know is that who ever it is, they’re scared that they might form a coalition with the Clown Circus Nazi Party.

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  14. Nostalgia-NZ (5,202 comments) says:

    Cunliffe is best out of it right now. If the Nats continue to engage with the IP to this level then Cunliffe continues to benefit.

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  15. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    “If the Nats continue to engage with the IP to this level…”

    I haven’t heard anything abut the Nat’s engaging with the IP at all. I just checked Stuff’s politics section and nothing. NZ Herald politics section – nothing. What the fuck are you talking about? Are you having some sort of wet dream that somehow Cun’liffe is going to make a spectacular comeback?

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  16. EAD (1,086 comments) says:

    What is with this constant ramming of Kim Dotcom down our throats? The guy is travelling circus and a relative non-entity yet we seem to hear about him non-stop as if he is the greatest threat this country has ever faced.

    This constant scare-mongering and over-excitedness of the “problem” of KDC makes me think he is being set up as a classic Hegelian Dialectic.

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  17. berend (1,709 comments) says:

    Kim is right. These questions are about statistics, and irrelevant. If we get 120, 200 or 100 MPs in our parliament, they will still do the same thing: forcibly take your money, to give you services you didn’t ask for, with a nice markup to them, their mates and future selves.

    Unfortunately Kim won’t change that.

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  18. Interested (23 comments) says:

    But DID his creditors get paid today as he promised?

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  19. Reboot (101 comments) says:

    First of all, fuck Kim Dotcom.

    But Jesus fucking Christ, those were perhaps the most annoying TV presenters I have ever seen. The interviewer was a bitch and thinks she’s hot shit but seriously was she trying to make us hate Kim Dotcom or her? She reminds me of a chick at the bar who thinks she’s smart but it’s obvious she’s envious of people who have what she doesn’t. Thank God I don’t have a TV, if this is the sort of garbage that’s being aired these days.

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  20. Keeping Stock (10,339 comments) says:

    @ Right Now – quite correct. Nostalgia’s allegation that the Nats are engaging with Dotcom is a figment of his rather fertile imagination. Next thing he’ll be telling us that David Bain will standing for the Internet Party in Papakura.

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  21. Nostalgia-NZ (5,202 comments) says:

    So you believe there’s no engagement with Dotcom yet there are endless blogs about him here KS. The book story was straight out of the National war kit, delivered on the day the IP was announced. Interesting that you should mention another person that was subject to a similar blog ‘campaign’ at the same time the Nats chose to usurp a legitimate report with a ‘finding’ in another report that basically said the author of the first report may still have reached the same conclusion had he ‘followed’ the guidance on a relatively insignificant Jurist with no international reputation. Pretending something isn’t ‘going on’ when it plainly is gives the public a whiff of arrogance. Not every one is a ‘follower of fashion’ when in comes to which party they vote for and a simple message of speedier internet will resonant, how much remains to be seen of course but – reading between the lines is very easy when what is written between the lines is in capitals and hardly subtle. Being smart isn’t a crime, appearing clueless to the obvious is stupidity ‘can’t fool all of the people….’

    My point about Cunliffe is also relevant. He wins by being able to stay out of the skirmish and appear above it or unwilling to engage – whether Labour can manage that for any length of time is a big question but making hay and all that while the nats play a hardly clandestine hand against a proposal to give more and faster internet usage has a lack of foresight I think.

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  22. Keeping Stock (10,339 comments) says:

    Did you not see the Herald story yesterday Nosty, where Dotcom admitted that he had front-footed the “Mein Kampf” story, telling 3News what to ask him in the interview with Brooke Sabin?

    A spokesman for Mr Dotcom told the Herald the Megaupload founder, who is fighting a US bid to extradite him on internet piracy charges, decided to go public over the book before his adversaries did.

    He and his camp were aware of “insinuations” that Mr Dotcom owned the book which were “part of an ongoing smear campaign that’s been fomented by various bloggers and opponents” including Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater.

    “That’s where it’s been coming from by and large. It didn’t take a lot of rocket science as it were what the general thrust of these things were. It’s something that we thought we should front-foot.”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11227512

    No mention of the National Party there either. Dotcom is once again making wild accusations to try and take the focus of his somewhat colourful past. Good luck with that, because he’s pissed too many people off without the National Party needing to be involved, or being involved.

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  23. redqueen (562 comments) says:

    ‘All just meaningless statistics…’ He’ll make a fantastic leader…poor Mike. Should probably get the number blacklisted =P

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  24. kowtow (8,470 comments) says:

    In the studio those 7 Dull clowns were doing their very best German accent impressions of the Fattie.

    Very childish and incredibly unprofessional.

    Of course nothing will be made of it as they were taking the piss out of a rich? fat white man.

    Now had it been a Pacific Islander…………

    first off they wouldn’t dare and second they’d be sacked for racism.

    Aotearoan media,the first bastion of hypocritical double standards.

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  25. tvb (4,421 comments) says:

    He has ruled out National so he is going to pick Labour. As for the most important election in the last 30 years, that is purely subjective. But I think the 1984 election would be my pick as it got rid of Muldoon, ushered in Rogernomics though that was not signalled, but Bob Jones made it clear that is what he wanted and he got a sizeable vote from many National voters.

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  26. prosper (164 comments) says:

    I believe MMP was dreamt up to prevent people like Hitler gaining power. It’s not working very well is it?

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  27. nasska (11,503 comments) says:

    prosper

    With the benefit of hindsight, MMP was dreamt up by the usual bunch of academics in the name of promoting “diversity” & facilitating the engineering of NZ society.

    It wasn’t although, a hard sell to those of us who were fed up to the back teeth with being lied to & then ignored by politicians elected under FPP…..in short we wanted to make their lives awkward & unpleasant. From memory Bolger & the broken promises over National Super were the straw that broke the camel’s back.

    I now concede that MMP was the biggest political mistake of the 20th century.

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  28. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Has a big problem with Jews.
    Hitler: Check.
    Dotcom: Check. Seems to be the only person in NZ who doesn’t like our Jewish PM.

    Really? I can’t stand Key, and I have jewish ancestry. There are people that actually think the only reason one wouldn’t like Key is because he’s jewish?

    Let’s play with this shall we?

    Has a giant narcissistic ego.
    Hitler: Check.
    Key: Check.

    As a foreigner, used another country’s political system for his own amusement.
    Hitler: Check. As an Austrian in Germany.
    Key: Maybe (His mother was a Jew in a Christian country, something Key takes political advantage of when it suits).

    Owns a copy of Mein Kampf.
    Hitler: Check.
    Key: NO, but then isn’t open about what he does own either

    Lives in a big house.
    Hitler: Check. Berchtesgaden.
    Key: Check.

    Surrounded himself with bodyguards.
    Hitler: Check.
    Key: Check.

    Treats his staff badly.
    Hitler: Check. Some met their ends in unfortunate accidents while others were just executed.
    Key: He doesn’t pay his staff – we do.

    Not very popular with American government.
    Hitler: Check.
    Key: Check. “Key Who?” (but man does he try!!)

    Surrounds himself with feeble minions.
    Hitler: Check. Speer, Goering, Himmler.
    Key: oh where to start … there isn’t enough space, but Cam Slater is a good place to begin

    Has certain members of the media fawning over his every word.
    Hitler: Check. Riefenstahl, Goebbels.
    Key: DPF, Whaleoil for starters

    Spent time in prison.
    Hitler: Check.
    Key: No.

    Has a Nazi flag at home.
    Hitler: Check.
    Key: No, doesn’t even like the NZ Flag

    Operates under a cloud of secrecy.
    Hitler: Check. Living in a bunker.
    Key: Check. Using his influence to silence critics.

    Likes a black uniform.
    Hitler: Check.
    Key: Check, surrounds himself with uniforms

    Has performed in front of a large crowd.
    Hitler: Check. Nuremberg.
    Key: Check – e.g. Gay Pride etc

    Has a big problem with Jews.
    Hitler: Check.
    Key: Check. Seems to play the ‘I’m jewish’ card for political gain

    Has invaded Poland.
    Hitler: Check.
    Key: No (but would he like to?)

    I fully realise this will get up peoples noses, but if its ok to do it for one member of the community, its ok to do it to another – right?

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  29. Laksa (16 comments) says:

    Be afraid, be very afraid.

    If you think the odds of such a narcissistic, self-centred, egotistic, attention grabbing twat becoming a Member of Parliament let alone somebody whom could one day affect the balance of power is so low as to not be worth worry about the think again.

    Think back to the last a narcissistic, self-centred, egotistic, attention grabbing twat in 1994 with his Wine Box of secret documents and look where he got to.

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  30. OneTrack (3,093 comments) says:

    Judith -Fail

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  31. Nostalgia-NZ (5,202 comments) says:

    Hadn’t read that KS. Hardly gripping stuff – the ownership of a book. Did read a poll on Yahoo in which 10 or 12% said they’d vote or consider voting for the IP. But neither of those points negates the ‘use’ of the blogs giving the impression that the Nats are breathing life into what might otherwise be greeted with little attention across the board. If you don’t think there is a campaign against him there is a special on at ‘Spec Savers.’ ‘Specs,’ another ‘issue’ on which there has been a similar campaign.

    To be frank giving the DC effort a title as being an attempt to avoid extradition doesn’t bother me, it is expected that people will fight against such a thing. That reminds me when you have said he should voluntarily go to the States if he is innocent, that’s more naivety, but what may be becoming clearer is that this (the IP) is pitching at another generation who may give little heed to the level of the value of the dollar or overseas earnings while being very mindful of the internet and the ‘bad guys’ dealing to someone over what some consider is at worst a civil case, information storage, access and so on, or more simply as faster internet without perhaps considering the capacity of the IP to deliver that.

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  32. radvad (765 comments) says:

    When did he play “the I’m Jewish card” Judith?
    From what I see the media mention it occasionally but it is not instigated by Key. I suspect your hatred is taking you to funny places, as hatred tends to do.

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  33. Ross Miller (1,704 comments) says:

    Judith … spot on with your last sentence. You disgust me.

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  34. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Nostalgia-NZ

    I was reading the university students blog yesterday, and what they were saying is almost exactly what you have said. No, I was not an active participant.

    Several points were made:

    1. They were aware that anything Nazi was wrong – but they do not believe that Dotcom is a Nazi and was simply investing, and playing games and interested like them – his wife and five children being evidence of that. As one pointed out, the ethnic construction of his family would break one of the first and most important rules, ein volk – one people, no interbreeding if he had any Nazi leanings.

    2. They are very concerned regarding ‘leaks’ of officially gained information deemed to be held by the government being used to target political opponents, and so there were cries of dirty politics and more concerns over the spy bill and unlawful searches and seizes etc. Lots of questions as to how the info was got, and from whom.

    3. The internet was heavily discussed, and the fact that the current govt is not only restricting them as students regarding economical issues, but it is not acknowledging the technical requirements of the future, and therefore restricting their possibilities.

    4. Bullying came up over and over again. Even though this has nothing to do with Key, he is the one that was getting the blame for it. They don’t separate the free press from his influence.

    Females in particular were vocal – it would appear that aesthetics are not that important after all in the young female mind when it comes to politics.

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  35. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Ross Miller (1,622 comments) says:
    March 28th, 2014 at 8:26 am

    Don’t like it when its pointed back at you though do you? Which was exactly my point. People can make up stuff, and poke as much shyte at any member of the opposition, but as soon as someone on your own team is treated in the same manner, you all cry foul.

    I was simply pointing out the hypocrisy. Anyone can build a list and like me, twist it to suit any argument, I don’t actually believe half of what I put, but it fills the list!.

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  36. prosper (164 comments) says:

    Nasska.
    I agree however I believe MMP NZ style was fashioned after the German version that the allies put together to prevent the rise of another Hitler then gerrymandered by the NZ academics to come up with a system closer to the Italian system. That country seems to change its leaders annually. I still cannot believe kiwis voted for mmp. One man one vote not two. One small party and therefore a tiny minority of the voters deciding the countries leader. It’s a system that encourages corruption, lying, double dealing etc. And undue influence to convicted non citizens such as KDC.

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  37. ShawnLH (5,025 comments) says:

    Key has never played the “I’m Jewish” card. That’s one problem with Judith’s list. That said, it strikes me as just as dumb to claim that some people don’t like Key because he’s Jewish as to claim that people don’t like Obama because he’s black.

    Still, it was pretty obvious to me that davidp had his tongue firmly planted in his cheek.

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  38. ShawnLH (5,025 comments) says:

    “and the fact that the current govt is not only restricting them as students regarding economical issues”

    How?

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  39. Paulus (2,627 comments) says:

    Which is why only New Zealand Citizens should be allowed to Vote in New Zealand Election (National and Local Government – although I would suggest the latter be actual Ratepayers only – as Ratepayers on the Council Rates lists)

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  40. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ ShawnLH (701 comments) says:
    March 28th, 2014 at 8:53 am

    I think they were referring to cut backs in the student allowance and student loan schemes. Either way as I said yesterday and have said many times before, if this isn’t handled correctly, and I don’t believe it is, then there is serious risk of Dotcom being regarded as the ‘hard done by’ and the govt and its supporters as bullies, in which case, the underdog loving NZ public will turn against them.

    Whilst I have no problem with them turning against the govt, I do have a problem if they turn to alternatives like the IP, because I cannot see that as being constructive for our country.

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  41. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    watching the usual left nutjobs defend WHATEVER dot com does is fucking hilarious.

    it must get tiring?

    imagine if some RICH WHITE dirtbag was doing everything dot com was doing, but was getting into bed with ACT.

    the left would go apeshit.

    but ah no, not when hes getting in bed with the left. apparently it doesnt matter he failed this quiz miserably cause “the average kiwi would struggle too”.

    is the “average kiwi” trying to become the king maker?

    some of you on the left need to give yourselves an uppercut.

    judith – im not sure whats pushed you over the edge lately but youre in my “batshit crazy” pile now. just so you know. i skip through your posts at the same speed i scroll through penny “soon to be homeless” bright

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  42. prosper (164 comments) says:

    SHAWNLH
    The students probably think they are being restricted economically as they now have to start paying back their loans before returning to NZ. Don’t worry most of them will mature and realize thesilliness of their student days unless of course they become lecturers.

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  43. CrazyIvan (90 comments) says:

    KDC says he got the copy of Mein Kampf (or was it Mein Kamp which could be rhe title of a German gay porn film?) because he enjoys Call of Duty. But COD hasn’t produced a WWII shooter since 2008, so the explanation sounds a little odd…

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  44. alex (304 comments) says:

    Godwin! Godwin! Godwin!

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  45. notrotsky (84 comments) says:

    @ dime “watching the usual left nutjobs defend WHATEVER dot com does is fucking hilarious.”

    I disagree, there was a time when you used to be able to have a sensible discussion across the political spectrum but now there seem to be people so entrenched in their team that anything goes exhibit one.

    http://thestandard.org.nz/the-mein-kampf-distraction/

    Sone of the comments have me questioning what kind of people i sure the country with.

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  46. cas (39 comments) says:

    I suspect the history of WW II, Hitler, the holocaust and Dr Mengele etc will not be known to some ( a lot of ?) younger people and they will consider whether Dotcon has a Nazi flag, Waffen SS helmet, copy of Mein Kampf, talks about world domination and so on irrelevant more’s the pity.

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  47. nasska (11,503 comments) says:

    Judith

    ….”Whilst I have no problem with them turning against the govt, I do have a problem if they turn to alternatives like the IP, because I cannot see that as being constructive for our country”…..

    It’s not important on two counts:

    1) The demographic who would embrace the Internet Party would never vote for a party of the right. Therefore it is only a matter of how the Leftist vote is carved up amongst the parties of the Left.

    2) The students you are referring to will vote Left because they are young, stupid & idealistic. The hard cold world that involves earning a living while housing & bringing up kids brings many of them back to the realities promoted by the Right.

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  48. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    notrotsky – i like to think a lot of us on the right still turn on the shit heads when needed.

    i like to think we dont defend light weight MP’s just cause they are from the right.. or centre right. eg not a lot of love for the education minister here

    there wasnt a lot of love for paula bennett when it came out that she let the disgusting thug of a son in law stay at her house rather than go to jail..

    but the left will defend anything to the end. it is their team.

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  49. ShawnLH (5,025 comments) says:

    “I think they were referring to cut backs in the student allowance and student loan schemes”

    Ok, I see. Totally different to what I thought they were saying.

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  50. BlairM (2,339 comments) says:

    I thought Robertson was the Deputy Leader too. Shows you how irrelevant Labour has become.

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  51. Viking2 (11,471 comments) says:

    Truly amazing the hysteria some people have.

    Fact KDC will not be an MP. Can’t.

    The Internet Party is another party in the scheme of things. They are entitled to be there and the funding is no more doggy than happens with all the other parties.
    They may or may not get voter support.
    If they do then that’s genuine choice of people based on the policy they espouse. (That you don’t like it is your problem not the other voters.)

    KDC is not the first outrageous person to challenge the system and particularly the Nats. Think Robert Jones.

    I guess you have and that’s what making you so hysterical. :lol:

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  52. David Garrett (7,272 comments) says:

    I just watched that clip of Dotcom trying to answer some basic questions on the NZ political system. I didn’t realise the man is so grossly obese…I think cholesterol will probably rid us of him sooner rather than later…he makes Norm Kirk – who died aged 51 – look like a long distance runner.

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  53. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (890 comments) says:

    davidp (3,288 comments) says:
    March 27th, 2014 at 9:23 pm
    As an aside, I’d like to compare two historical figures against a number of objective criteria…

    Has won the war
    Hitler: NO. Fails with his allies
    Dotcom: Wins 2014 election and defeats Key with the help of his allies Labour, Greens and Mana.

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  54. tas (625 comments) says:

    TBH, I couldn’t tell you who was number two in Labour, Mana, ACT, or UF either.

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