The socialist paradise of Venezuela

March 6th, 2014 at 4:00 pm by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

Chavez died on March 5, 2013, after a long battle with cancer. He chose Maduro, a former bus driver and union leader, to be his successor, but the ride since his death has been anything but smooth. Inflation hit 56 per cent last year, there are shortages of basic commodities such as cooking oil and flour and one of the highest murder rates in the world keeps people locked in their homes at night.

Imagine a country where the price of goods and services is 50% higher at the end of the year. And then even worse that you can’t buy basic necessities. And finally you cower inside at night. Welcome to the success of socialism. They even have had shortages of toilet paper!

has a huge amount of natural resources. Its problem is that it has one of the weakest property rights regimes in the world and has nationalised and confiscated property. So investment goes away.

As for crime, the crime rate is so bad there, do you know what the Goverment did in response? They no longer publish crime data!!

A person is murdered every 21 minutes and the homicide rate has quadrupled in the last 15 years. More people are killed there than in the Iraq War. In the capital city, the homicide rate is 122 per 100,000. That means that over 1 in 1000 residents are killed every year. Over a 10 year period your chance of being murdered is greater than 1 in 100.

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40 Responses to “The socialist paradise of Venezuela”

  1. Brian Smaller (4,037 comments) says:

    Yet moonbat lefties, especially celebrity ones love the Venezuelan socialist paradise. Guess they don’t have to live there.

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  2. Bill Ted (92 comments) says:

    Only place you have a higher chance of being knifed is in Labour’s caucus room…

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  3. David Garrett (6,929 comments) says:

    Must have used an awful lot of lead paint in Venezuela 20 years ago (See thread on 3 strikes for burglary to make sense of that comment)

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  4. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    The bus driver Maduro is as ignorant as you can get:

    The president of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro, has hosted a ceremony in tribute to the late Hugo Chavez, one year after his death, in an an event attended by the heads of state of Cuba, Raul Castro, Bolivia, Evo Morales, and Suriname, Desiré Delano Bouterse.

    “Today, March 5, one year after our boss flew to his eternal life, we want first (…) greet the brothers of the world, brothers and sisters who are here,” Maduro said in celebrating the presence of his peers and the Argentine vice president Amado Boudou and Ecuadorian Foreign Minister Ricardo Patiño.

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  5. metcalph (1,426 comments) says:

    The 50% inflation rate is the official statistic. The actual inflation rate is closer to 300%. I’d never thought it possible for an oil-producing country to experience hyperinflation so Maduro obviously deserves the Noble Economics Prize.

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  6. davidp (3,572 comments) says:

    >As for crime, the crime rate is so bad there, do you know what the Goverment did in response? They no longer publish crime data!!

    The same as our own Labour Party’s approach to school performance. Make school performance information a secret.

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  7. alloytoo (525 comments) says:

    As for crime, the crime rate is so bad there, do you know what the Goverment did in response? They no longer publish crime data!!

    Par for the course, all the better to hide the skulduggery of the political elite.

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  8. RightNow (6,966 comments) says:

    I’m sure before the end of this thread someone will blame all the problems in Venezuela on the USA. Somehow I’m sure they’ll make it all GW’s fault too.

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  9. alloytoo (525 comments) says:

    Much (probably all) of Venezuela’s woes can be attributable to price controls on both goods, and currency…..

    Basically the sum total of Russel Norman’s economic proposals.

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  10. Grant (434 comments) says:

    You guys are being unfair.

    Just like all the other socialist cock ups in history, Venezuela is just not doing their socialism properly.

    If Cunners, Norman, McArten, et al get the opportunity they’ll show us how it’s really done.

    G

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  11. emmess (1,418 comments) says:

    I’m sure before the end of this thread someone will blame all the problems in Venezuela on the USA

    Yes, I was thinking the other day regarding the Ukraine situation, that there should be a Godwin’s law Part 2.
    Referring the Iraq war to excuse any bad behavior by an autocratic leader should automatically lose the argument as well.

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  12. RRM (9,769 comments) says:

    Do the socialists do all those murders? :-P

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  13. burt (8,183 comments) says:

    We almost had this glory in NZ under Muldoon then sadly we veered away from total state control. Luckily for NZ the Labour/Green coalition will let us have this glorious situation. Vote for a change to let NZ continue what we missed after 1984.

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  14. lolitasbrother (621 comments) says:

    The official exchange rate Venezuela Bolivar to $USA is / was 0.16. 7 Bolivar = 1$USA
    Apparently the black market is changing daily, and you need about 50 bolivar for 1$USA.
    Its affecting all the Colombians who cross the border for work also.

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  15. Changeiscoming (178 comments) says:

    Labour and the Greens still think Socialism works and still want to try it.

    I still have the haunting image of David Cunliffe celebrating Socialism when given the red roses and his inauguration media event.

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  16. burt (8,183 comments) says:

    Changeiscoming

    Socialism appears to be a mental disorder. It’s failed every single time it’s been tried but the *drug* of other peoples money is irresistible to those who don’t remember last time they had their fill the ( economic ) hangover was a disaster.

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  17. dime (9,793 comments) says:

    Lmao no doubt it’s capitalisms fault somehow.

    It baffles me how people still think this shit works

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  18. David Garrett (6,929 comments) says:

    burt: Yes, but it’s never really been tried PROPERLY…as someone else has noted above…

    I remember from pol sci at Uni that Albania was the only socialist country in the world that made religion actually illegal…as opposed to just suppressing it…of course that worked very well…whatever happened to Enver Hoxha, can anyone remember??

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  19. mara (760 comments) says:

    Socialism is a mental disease ,,, how else to explain the inexplicable. How Silent T and the Greens rate as highly as they do in the polls is a mystery to me. Maybe it is just about sheer fecking stupidy. How do you fix that?

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  20. lolitasbrother (621 comments) says:

    David Garrett (4,839 comments) says: March 6th, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    …whatever happened to Enver Hoxha, can anyone remember??

    He died David, we all die and our lives and hopes are buried with us.
    Some lunatics like Abraham Lincoln are revered, but Abraham Lincoln took out 500,000 Americans.
    Death to his memory.\

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  21. Simon (727 comments) says:

    Venezuela another Anti Neoliberal triumphant

    On a protesters banner

    Talk like Marx
    Rule like Stalin
    Live like Rockefeller
    While the people suffer

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  22. David Garrett (6,929 comments) says:

    Lolitasbrother (where do they get them?): Thank you…I think the best end of a socialist despot ever was Nicolae and Elena (?) Caescescu of Rumania..christmas 1989 if memory serves…after failing to control a restive crowd Caesecscu and the Mrs were taken away…”tried” before a military tribunal and shot…Elena’s famous last words “Nicolae, I think they are going to shoot us!” Smart girl Mrs C…

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  23. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (868 comments) says:

    Search and replace Venezuela with New Zealand – Exact description of NZ under Labour-Greens-NZ First-Mana-Maori in 2020….

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  24. cha (3,920 comments) says:

    Seems nothing’s changed since John Gunther’s day.

    http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=5N8OAQAAMAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=caracas

    http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=5N8OAQAAMAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=venezuela

    http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=5N8OAQAAMAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=prices

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  25. PaulL (6,015 comments) says:

    I think it was Yoza who was blaming Venezuela’s problems on the US last I saw. Expect him here soon. Or maybe he learned last time that he had no sensible argument, and will be “doing something else” and “not see the thread”. (To be fair, he might actually be doing something else….but that doesn’t change the fact he was wrong last time, and he’ll still be wrong if he comments on this post).

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  26. Yoza (1,771 comments) says:

    The reason Chavez attained power in Venezuela was the same reason so many other countries in that part of the Americas turned to independence from Washington, they were sick of the death-squads.

    Will Congress act to stop US support for Honduras’ death squad regime?

    Five young men walk down a quiet street in Tegucigalpa, Honduras. A big black SUV pulls up, followed by a second vehicle. Two masked men with bullet-proof vests jump out of the lead car, with AK-47s raised. The two youths closest to the vehicles see that they have no chance of running, so they freeze and put their hands in the air. The other three break into a sprint, with bullets chasing after them from the assassins’ guns. Miraculously, they escape, with one injured – but the two who surrendered are forced to lie face down on the ground. The two students, who were brothers 18- and 20-years-old, are murdered with a burst of bullets, in full view of the camera. Less than 40 seconds after their arrival, the assassins are driving away, never to be found.

    The video is violent and shows the killing of the two students

    This is the alternative the US has lined up for Venezuela.

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  27. lolitasbrother (621 comments) says:

    Yoza , watched the video , ugly beyond belief,

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  28. OneTrack (2,966 comments) says:

    Yoza – not sure what your point is. They cut themselves off from the US, embraced full-retard socialism, and now the place sounds like a hell-hole. Is this what you and Russel have planned for New Zealand – I mean Aotearoa, which what it will be called shortly after the revolution.

    Maybe they should have stuck with the US.

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  29. smttc (725 comments) says:

    Actually Sir Cullen’s Sidekick, you have got your troll cards wrong. You are supposed to promote Venezuela as Cunnyleaf’s benchmark for socialist policy.

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  30. lolitasbrother (621 comments) says:

    I wrote in several places that I thought a Green / Labour government could cause withdrawal of overseas investment , and currency from NZ. That is a collapse in the $NZ. People tell me that is nuts, but why. Would you invest in a Country with Socialists and Communists and possibly Maori racist sympathy leading.
    I wouldn’t , I would ring up Eric Crampton and say what you think Eric, maybe you put your money in Canada now.

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  31. hj (6,802 comments) says:

    This is just a bullshit post because it is irrelevant to NZ since only a minority leftist group would try to follow such a prescription. What matters is the nitty gritty of why government vere away from a correct course of action. This was the question the (government’s own) Savings Working Group* posed:

    Clearly, there are serious questions to be asked about New Zealand’s economic policy and how we got into this mess. Why was it not better designed and managed, and more focussed, coordinated and strategic? Did the electorate simply get what it voted for, without realising what was really happening, or have New Zealanders not been well served over the years?
    Underlining the current difficult situation, the government is spending at an unsustainable level and running large deficits (the opposite of saving). As a result, it is borrowing a hefty $300 million a week. It needs to return the Budget to a surplus of no less than 2% of GDP as soon as possible.
    Looking ahead over the next 20 years or so, the government will face increasing costs from the effects of an ageing population. If the government is to keep its borrowing within a sustainable level (as it must) over this period, its options are to: substantially increase tax revenue, reduce government spending, or increase government sector productivity and performance. The first two options are clearly unpalatable. However, modelling shows that if the government can lift its performance and increase productivity by 2% a year for five years and 1% thereafter, there would be no need to raise taxes or cut government services. The SWG strongly recommends this.

    http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/reviews-consultation/savingsworkinggroup/pdfs/swg-report-jan11.pdf
    * Described as “a group of great thinkers” By Matt Nolan.

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  32. Ryan Sproull (7,093 comments) says:

    I mean Aotearoa, which what it will be called shortly after the revolution.

    Imagine the worst thing in the world, then TIMES IT BY A MILLION

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  33. All_on_Red (1,548 comments) says:

    Ah, Comrade Yoza, back from your stint as Minister of Finance and Toilet Paper Supply in the great Chavistic paradise of Venezuela What a success your work has been. I hear your idea to make the currency with softer paper has been greatly appreciated by the peasants. So much so that Comrade Norman wants you to do the same here in NZ. It will be about all it’s good for after the Greens get in.
    Still, should leave you to it. Those potatoes need weeding and I guess you need to be up early on the collective in the morning.

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  34. simonway (380 comments) says:

    Inflation since Chavez was elected is lower than it was before.

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  35. Crusader (300 comments) says:

    Socialism works, it has just never been implemented properly.
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    Yeah right.

    (Tui Advert to be posted up outside Cunners’ office)

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  36. Fisiani (1,022 comments) says:

    Election 2014 is shaping up as a straight choice between economic and social progress being promoted by National or the Venezualan/North Korean version under Labour/Greens. Holly Walker of the Greens actually claimed in parliament today that the Greens wanted to waive student debt. That,s a cost of $3,000,000,000 . That money would pay for much of the rebuild of Christchurch. They also want to buy back MOM shares. That’s another $4,500,000,000 . If you have half a mind to vote Green apparently that,s all you need.

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  37. Couchpotatoe (28 comments) says:

    What no comment on Judith “Milkmaid” Collins? Theres a surprise.

    [DPF: I blogged on it the evening the story broke. I'm unaware of any new facts since then]

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  38. DJP6-25 (1,353 comments) says:

    David Garrett 6.03 pm. It was a very large firing squad. All the secret service guys wanted to be included because they feared reprisals from the people. I don’t think anyone would cry a river if Mad Uro, or Kim Jong Un-hinged went the same way.

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  39. hj (6,802 comments) says:

    As with Holly Walker pandering to students the real story is why policy gets derailed by sectional interests (property investors/ banks/ developers).

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  40. Dave Mann (1,200 comments) says:

    I can see Yoza’s point about the death squads. I lived in Uruguay and Argentina in the 70s and people were routinely ‘disappeared’. I lost a couple of acquaintances that way and its a fucken freaky way to live. But I don’t think all this was America’s fault necessarily. Latin America is so…. umm… latin somehow. They often tend to go for the grandiose rather than the subtle…. which is what makes their food, music and women so exciting and their governments so scary.

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