What sort of person buys a signed copy of Mein Kampf?

March 1st, 2014 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

Whale Oil blogs:

Two rare early editions of Mein Kampf, signed by could sell for more than US$20,000 (NZ$24k) at an online auction, officials say.

Whale comments:

Check the back of the couch and see if you have a spare $24k.

But seriously what sort of sicko wants to own a book by Adolf Hitler. Only a nazi sympathiser could possibly want such a thing.

I think you have to be either genuinely unaware of what happened to millions of people during WWII under the rule of Nazi Germany, or you have to have a very specific personality fault to think that stuff is cool.

I agree. It is one thing to want to read Mein Kampf. It gives an insight into the mentality of the Nazis. But to want a copy personally signed by Hitler – that is rather sick.

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82 Responses to “What sort of person buys a signed copy of Mein Kampf?”

  1. corrigenda (142 comments) says:

    Who wants to buy one?? The same sort of person who would pay millions for a painting of “The Scream” which no-one in their right mind would give wall space to. Money, money, money!!!!

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  2. dime (9,849 comments) says:

    I dont think its sick. some people collect weird shit.

    its a piece of history. maybe someone wants to have a constant reminder of the evil people are capable of..

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  3. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,887 comments) says:

    Might turn out to be a very good investment, David. After all, Hitler was far more successful than Russel Norman.

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  4. Dean Papa (784 comments) says:

    It is a piece of history. I wouldn’t pay for it, but it takes all sorts. You could equally ask what sort of person would want to shoot a poor innocent goat who was bravely defending his herd? But there are some clowns who would. In fact they even brag about it and post pictures online, as if it was some great achievement. But Mike Hosking isn’t one of those clowns. He would rather shoot himself than do that.

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  5. mandk (968 comments) says:

    Maybe the sort of person who told us that NZ never suffered an infestation of Jews?

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  6. nasska (11,277 comments) says:

    I don’t reckon that too many people would pay $24K for a book with the idea of reading it. As a collectors item however, it would have few equals…..after all it is highly unlikely that Hitler will sign any more copies & flood the market.

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  7. kowtow (8,315 comments) says:

    Anyone who wants to own a VW and enjoy a drive on an autobahn must be an avowed Nazi sympathiser.
    What kind of a sicko would do that?

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  8. stephieboy (2,788 comments) says:

    Hitler slot more successful than Wussell.?
    I dont think so Adolf after watching the final days of ,is it your alter ego,?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpyMeBrljfQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    Everyone to their own tastes.The signed copy could be interpreted as of historical significance given the enormous ,albeit negative impact that Hitler made on History.

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  9. thePeoplesFlag (242 comments) says:

    Don’t be so politically correct David Farrar. Whether we like or not, Hitler was a major historical figure of the 20th century. Of course his signature is of interest to collectors.

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  10. hj (6,915 comments) says:

    Isn’t Whale Oil’s hero Gengis Khan?

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  11. Colville (2,261 comments) says:

    Dean papa.
    Roast goat tastes great :-)

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  12. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Collectors obviously, these are rare books.

    I know instead lets burn them, lets destroy all images of Hitler and any record of the nazi filth and then in a few years they will have ceased to exist – and that’s when the deniers and the sympathiser’s will have won

    The books are inanimate objects, its a shit book but these are serious history the provenance of these volumes will be a story in itself

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  13. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    Neo Fascism is on the Rise

    NZ is in on it also it is called

    Tino Rangatiratanga

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  14. georgebolwing (793 comments) says:

    What would Whale have us do instead? Burn the books?

    I assume that the bidders are more likely to be universities and research libraries. Probably some stupid fans of Hitler as well. I have no problem with treating stupid fans of Hitler exactly the opposite way to which Hitler treated people he disagreed with.

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  15. gravedodger (1,552 comments) says:

    If a few more leaders refusing to see or understand what was happening in Germany after WW1 as the Wiemar Republic set the scene for Herr Hitlers inevitable rise to Dictator, a rearmed UK, France and the Low countries might have cut the murderous bastard off at the Pass.
    likewise if Stalin had read the book he would have seen the Molotov/Ribbontrop treaty for what it was. Hitlers greater Germany was always going to attempt to absorb Poland, Belarus and Ukraine and it was as plain as the nose on his face he expected Hungary and Romania to join in.
    Be they Jews, Slavs, Romany, not much future after reading “My Struggle”.
    Clearly not many collectors of Literary object d art around on a Saturday.

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  16. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    Read the

    The Beast Re Awakens

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Beast-Reawakens-Resurgence-Spymasters/dp/0415925460

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  17. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    You are missing the Point you have to “Study” to understand

    because you all subscribe to “Jock Anderson’s” version of ANZAC history

    you naive people do not realise or do not know that Australia’s first day in France fought directly opposite
    A Hilter
    there is an account from his fellow dispatch runner that matches the australian records
    I estimate they got within 50-100 yards of him

    Now if they had killed him??? Would it change History Much?

    I DO NOT THINK SO I am sorry
    SAD to SAY – But that is the Truth

    It did not begin with Adolph Hilter
    and it will not end with him either

    He was a Dispatch Runner

    Studying his List regiment will give you insights into the incubation of National Socialism

    But the real Question or Answers are not in Mein Kampf

    You have to Ask

    How and why were they there in the first place?
    and what happened after is important to know

    But it like many other books is available as a PDF download

    You have to dig deeper than Mein Kampf for real answers

    And it is not over – it is just beginning again

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  18. nasska (11,277 comments) says:

    Ben Dover

    ….”And it is not over – it is just beginning again”….

    You could be right & if so the responsibility needs to be sheeted home to those who have acted as enablers…..

    …..the politicians & bureaucrats who have allowed Europe to be swamped by hostile Muslim immigrants.

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  19. flipper (3,979 comments) says:

    I loathe everything that Hitler did and everything he stood for.

    But this crap about $24K for a signed copy of Mein Kampf is crap.

    If I had that spare cash, and the opportunity to buy, I would . It would go into my library along side the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (Shirer), The SS State and De Nazification (since donated to the holocaust centre, Wellington), and many others covering all aspects of 1910 to 1949, including Nuremberg.
    Like it or not, it underpins the truly psychotic policies and people that were Hitler and his gang.
    We learn (or we should) from history.
    I am sorry David, you are totally wrong on this.

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  20. Fentex (936 comments) says:

    I think it’s a fairly positive thing that the expected price is only twenty grand, I’d expect there’d be enough people that would want one the price would be higher than that – or maybe there are a lot more of them around than one may think?

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  21. Ross Nixon (559 comments) says:

    Maybe someone rich could buy it – then have a well publicised burning of it.

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  22. jackinabox (776 comments) says:

    “Maybe someone rich could buy it – then have a well publicised burning of it.”

    Yeah!

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  23. stephieboy (2,788 comments) says:

    What sort of person would buy’ Robespierre’s manuscripts who was in charge of the bloody Committee for Public Safety during the French Revolution.?.?
    They were recently auctioned at Souteby’s ,

    http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/11135

    Like Mein Kampf the manuscripts give us valuable insights into the workings of the fevered mind of a tyrant and one in the making. Of immense historical interest and fascination .Two men who had an incalculable impact on history.

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  24. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    I see no difference between this and New Zealand leaders

    worshipping Chairmans Maos Maori Cloak

    Hilter 6 million
    Mao 40+ million

    What is the difference? methods location

    How accurate are the figure methods ?

    Mao boasted about burying over 400,000 scholars alive

    You have already bought into it folks

    it is too late like the Natzis you have voted away your democratic rights already
    and you don’t know it yet

    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/news/nbmao/870292564-maori-cloak-given-to-chairman-mao–returned-to-nz-govt

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  25. Reid (16,290 comments) says:

    When you look at what Eisenhower did with the German civilians and POWs after the war, you realise that it really is true that the victors write the history. I feel sorry for people who haven’t yet bothered to acquaint themselves with the true brutality of that total conflict, especially for those who’ve only read one side of the story and think they have been educated on it.

    But when you do bother to acquaint yourself, you realise that DPF’s point could be equally made against signatures on anything many of the top commanders and politicians on the allied side wrote about the conflict as well.

    Google this one as just one example – there are many many many others and there are some extracts of this in the search results: http://www.amazon.com/Hellstorm-Death-Nazi-Germany-1944-1947/dp/097138522X

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  26. rouppe (967 comments) says:

    There’s plenty of Stalin memorabilia around. What’s the difference?

    The fact is that he was a major historical figure. The alternative is to expunge him from history, much like Kim Jong Un did with his uncle. I don’t advocate that.

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  27. Scott1 (528 comments) says:

    It is part of history, nothing to see here.

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  28. James Stephenson (2,152 comments) says:

    What sort of person? Presumably not the sort of person that would wear a Che Guevara t-shirt…

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  29. labrator (1,847 comments) says:

    I suggest you don’t ever go to a torture museum. The human race has a horrific history, a book with a signature seems to be the least of it.

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  30. Akaroa (552 comments) says:

    Not really surprised that Whaleoil – perceptive commentator though he often is in many respects – was off hand and condemnatory about the Hitler-signed copy of Mein Kampf’

    I’m a bit surprised at your agreement with him though, web-meister!

    Anyone with an ounce of nous, or an appreciation of the way the value of rare artefacts sky-rockets, will know that the next time one of these Hitler-signed copies comes on the market the price it fetches will have appreciated many times over. In short, a fantastic investment opportunity – if you could afford the asking price!.

    It isn’t the artistic or literary excellence of paintings, rare books and other artefacts per se that warrants the high prices, its the market. For instance who would want any of Picasso’s daubs hanging in their lounge or dining room? They’re awful in any conventional artistic sense! But look at the prices they command!.

    And what price bits of the ill-fated “Titanic”, scavanged from the Ocean floor? One man’s scrap metal is another man’s retirement fund!!

    It’s the rarity and historical significance of this kind of artefact that puts the price of articles such as a Hitler-signed copy of ‘Mien Kampf’ so high.

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  31. Don the Kiwi (1,705 comments) says:

    “What sort of person buys a signed copy of Mein Kampf?”

    A collector of historical memorabilia. So what’sthe prblem with that.

    What sort of a person buys the original signed “Communist Manifesto”?

    You could go on and on.

    What sort of a person would buy Jenghis Khan’s penis protecting sheath? (if you could find it ) :-)

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  32. goldnkiwi (1,276 comments) says:

    Who would? Lots of people, the subject matter ticks lots of boxes for a variety of collectors. I think one should be housed in a museum depicting the Holocaust. How about at the Simon Weisenthal Centre?

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  33. Reid (16,290 comments) says:

    “What sort of person buys a signed copy of Mein Kampf?”

    A better question is: why are people such morons they think a signature from a famous person is valuable, in anyway whatsoever?

    I watch PawnStars on Prime which is about a Las Vegas pawnshop and they pay ridiculous money for a scribble from a famous person. Sure. It’s the market. People do pay that. I understand.

    My question is: why?

    It’s not art. It’s not say the original score of Beethoven’s Fifth. It’s not the original Declaration of Independence.

    It’s a stupid book, from a “celebrity.”

    Slack jawed village idiots might pay for the Brooklyn Bridge, why are there so many of them out there. In some things the human race doesn’t cover itself in glory, this phenomena is one of those things. Especially while millions of us are dying of hunger. To me, it’s like arms dealing. Except that’s blood money. This is idiot money.

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  34. nasska (11,277 comments) says:

    Reid

    The signature of a living person is not worth much regardless of their fame or notoriety. Once they die however, anything they signed, wrote, sketched or painted acquires a value as it cannot be replicated. It is now a collectable item as it has a scarcity factor.

    I predict that even “Dear Leader’s” signature on a painting she did not paint will be worth heaps when she departs this earth. You don’t happen to be the current owner of the work of art do you? :)

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  35. stephieboy (2,788 comments) says:

    Ride , I would like to take you up on that tome by Thomas Goodrich.A review of a very similar book After the Reich The Brutul Allied Occupation makes the point that the author e.g cites the allegation of Red Army rape and crucifixion of women in Easr Prussia etc but does not apparently cite primary sources.Also a lot anecdotal accounts , again not properly cited or sourced

    http://www.amazon.com/review/R10P7Y1UXDWYNC/ref=cm_cr_pr_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0465003389&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=#wasThisHelpful.

    Undoubtedly excesses were committed , especially by the Red Army but it’s wrong to suggest, especially the Western Allies .indiscriminately plundered and murderd the German population.
    The type ofcthinking in He’ll Storm is music to Holocaust deniers and modern Neo Nazi organizations

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  36. Reid (16,290 comments) says:

    It is now a collectable item as it has a scarcity factor.

    As I said mate, I understand how that market works. I’m saying the human race are a bunch of collective morons for engaging in such a vapid, meaningless, unproductive market.

    The diamond market is no different. You know of course diamonds are incredibly common and billions of them are locked in vaults, released in a timed fashion according to market conditions. The interests behind the major diamond producers financed a marketing campaign to make idiots think they were rare and signified love, which of course women all over the world completely fell for. Diamonds are Forever wasn’t a movie, it was an advertisement.

    Same thing, different place. Most humans are morons. Sad, but evidently true.

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  37. stephieboy (2,788 comments) says:

    A more balanced view of Germany and the aftermath of WW 2 is here,

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1250000203/ref=cm_cr_asin_lnk

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  38. nasska (11,277 comments) says:

    ….”I’m saying the human race are a bunch of collective morons for engaging in such a vapid, meaningless, unproductive market.”….

    I’ll not attempt to argue that statement but try to keep your thoughts on the matter confidential.

    If the idea gained traction it would spell the end of the antiques market. Dunbar Sloane & Trade Me would put a price on your head. :)

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  39. Reid (16,290 comments) says:

    The type ofcthinking in He’ll Storm is music to Holocaust deniers and modern Neo Nazi organizations

    stephie, you want to educate yourself. One of the first things you want to start doing is to do your own research. Google ‘eisenhower death camps’ for example. And buy that book if you’re interested and if you don’t want to, do what I suggested and look at the google results and you’ll get an extract, which will tell you what the review you cite is worth.

    Tell me stephie, do you chose what movie you want to go to based on the reviews, or do you just chose it depending on your current fancy and go and see what it’s like, anyway?

    And if you do that with movies, why don’t you take the same approach to truth-seeking, which I would have thought, is more fruitful than a 120 min entertainment fantasy. Unless of course your mental model has already told you what the movie is about without even seeing it and anything which doesn’t match that model causes emotional pain in your tummy.

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  40. Duxton (640 comments) says:

    Given a choice between an original of Mein Kampf signed by the late AH, and a drawing signed by another dictator, Helen Clark, I think I’d go for the former :D

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  41. Harriet (4,849 comments) says:

    “…..What sort of person buys a signed copy of Mein Kampf….”

    Pro-abortionists…..euthanists……the sexually perverted……..Geobble’s MSM & academia,…..Green MP’s…..then we have the KKK….

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  42. valeriusterminus (243 comments) says:

    “What sort of person buys a signed copy of Mein Kampf?”
    The descriptive word for this person type is “Speculator”
    Someone who believes that there is someone who will pay more subsequently.
    There are many “Speculators” who assume normality.

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  43. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    You can’t Read

    MEIN KAMPF

    withut the Propaganda Gift Given to the NATZIS

    by the ZIO Fascists
    Published in1941

    Germany Must perish

    It advocates genocide of The German Race

    Reviewed in Time Magazine

    Check but many German schools became familiar with it

    From the German perspective they were fighting a War of Survival?

    Any ideas why the kept fighting?

    Ironically many ideas post 1941 and sentiment – came from that book
    it was used to vindicate what the Fuhrer had fed them all along

    Sad but it is true

    And they still use it

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_Must_Perish!

    “I believe, that the Jews have a mission in life. They must see to it that the nations of the world get together in one vast federation. ‘Union Now’ is the beginning of this. Slowly but surely the world will develop into a paradise. We will have perpetual peace. And the Jews will do the most to bring about this confederation, because they have the most to gain. But how can you get peace if Germany exists? The only way to win an eternal peace is to make the punishment of waging war more horrible than war itself. Human beings are penalized for murder, aren’t they? Well, Germany starts all the wars of magnitude. Let us sterilize all Germans and wars of world domination will come to an end!”

    Germany Must perish
    The Gift that keeps on Giving?

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  44. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    While you are all Celebrating the Roots of Socialism

    because National Socialism is really just Socialism

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rewi_Alley

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  45. BlairM (2,320 comments) says:

    Aside from thinking motorways are a pretty awesome invention, I have no affinity for anything Hitler did. But I’d love to own a signed copy of Mein Kampf. What a marvelous piece of history to have in one’s possession!

    I’m a bit bewildered as to how both Farrar and Slater could be so disapproving on this issue. They are normally a lot less puritannical than this.

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  46. scott.stevens (3 comments) says:

    Its a collectors item and a rare book, irrespective of what it contains it does have significant historical value. I am 1 set short of having the complete stamp issue of the Third Reich (1933 Nothilfe is still missing) as well as having the complete issue of Occupied Poland, Jersey, Guernsey, Bohemia/Moravia, Estonia, Latvia and a few others as well. Do I agree with the regimes policies and beliefs ? No. Do I believe that they tell a story and have historic value? Yes, its why I collect them (and why a lot of stamp collectors collect in their speciality too). Its the same reason someone will buy the AH copy of Mein Kampf.

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  47. Brian Smaller (4,012 comments) says:

    Mein Kampf is still a big seller – in the Middle East. Still in print over there.

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  48. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    I wonder if Jock Anderson
    knows or cares how close the Aussie Diggers

    he was so keen to put the Boot into got to taking out Young Adolph?

    Bummer he lost his Job eh
    I used to Laugh at everything he wrote for NBR

    Maybe he can come and work in Australia

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11141779

    Where and who does this NZ
    Historical Expert Work for Now

    I need a laugh

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  49. valeriusterminus (243 comments) says:

    Balfour’s wet dreams predicated a “Sorting Hat”
    The logistics were impossible without a holocaust.

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  50. Johnboy (16,059 comments) says:

    I’m happy to sell personally autographed copies of Mein Sheep to any of you for say $100….Make me an offer? :)

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  51. nasska (11,277 comments) says:

    A quiet paddock & two pretty lambs for an hour is as high as I’ll go JB. :)

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  52. Johnboy (16,059 comments) says:

    Ach bein nasska. Ve have ways of getting a higher price from you mein leibchin! :)

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  53. edhunter (536 comments) says:

    Harriet I don’t normally down tick, but seriously fuck off back to the rock from under which you crawled.

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  54. Johnboy (16,059 comments) says:

    Quite right Edward. Only queer cunt’s downtick! :)

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  55. Johnboy (16,059 comments) says:

    Minus must be home with Mummy tonight and not allowed to play on the computer! :)

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  56. Odakyu-sen (597 comments) says:

    Original German title: “Mein Kampf.”

    Modern English translation: “My Jihad.”

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  57. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    … the sort of person who in years to come will be able to sell it for a damn sight more than they paid…

    I inherited a couple of first edition Noddy Books signed by Enid Blyton … am I meant to throw them away or sell them because they are no longer considered appropriate .. does keeping them mean I’m a racist ? (Yes I know you can’t compare Noddy to Hitler’s Mein Kampf … or can you? )

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  58. valeriusterminus (243 comments) says:

    Thanks Odakyu-sen
    Other observatins;
    “Go Crusaders” equates ‘Go Jihadists”
    Saying “Allahu Akbar” in the airport departure lounge will likely have a different outcome than saying it’s derivative “Hallelujah”

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  59. Johnboy (16,059 comments) says:

    I thought Noddy was Big Ears toyboy Judith so your books should be perfectly in order these days. :)

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  60. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Well yes, that part is fine, but then there is the ‘G’ word … not PC today!

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  61. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    Here you go Save yourself
    24 k

    If you must read it

    https://archive.org/details/Mein_Kampf_Facsimilie

    Essential Reading like the Koran Bible
    and Talmud etc etc

    Just as or nearly as Fruity

    https://archive.org/details/GermanyMustPerish

    Nothing bad has ever happened in Neeew zeeland
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=149838

    I have not got around to this one yet

    But can’t wait

    Visions of Infamy

    Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto smashed the American fleet at Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941, yet the man who first conceived of the Pacific war — Japan’s surprise attack, the seizure of the Philippines & Guam, & the American island-hopping campaign — was a British naval correspondent, Hector C. Bywater. He wrote a series of brilliant books & articles in the 1920s & 1930s that prophetically outlined naval strategies that would read like a blueprint for the Pacific Theater during World War II. Bywater’s ideas created an uproar & then were quickly forgotten. But Yamamoto adopted Bywater’s ideas as his own. Photos.

    http://www.amazon.com/Visions-Infamy-Journalist-Bywater-Devised/dp/0312054548

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  62. doggone7 (776 comments) says:

    I don’t even have to read all the contributions to know that someone must’ve suggested how bizarre it is that capitalists like Slater and Farrar profess to not understand a person wanting to own something because it’s worth a lot of money. The feigned indignation at that is quite amusing but the Slater comments top even that. He asks a question fairly addressed about his own writings… “But seriously what sort of sicko wants to …”

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  63. tuesday88 (11 comments) says:

    Hitler was a mass murdering asshole, just like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Trotsky, Pol Pot and all those other left-wing mass murderers. Anyone who has the slightest academic or political interest in these morally bankrupt cockroaches, is also morally bankrupt and deserves nothing but contempt. You know, so Matt M deserves nothing but…

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  64. valeriusterminus (243 comments) says:

    Tuesday88
    So are you saying Hitler was “left-wing” ? your assertion is not clear! (lest we question the double octal)

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  65. Colville (2,261 comments) says:

    Tuesday88.
    Funny coz the 88 mm flak cannon invented by the Germans remains one of the greatest weapons in the history of warfare.

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  66. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    Now Post a Graph of Export to your Communist Mass Murderer Buddies now

    and get all “Morale”

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  67. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

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  68. stephieboy (2,788 comments) says:

    Ben Dover , whoa there.!. I just want to pull you up on Theodore Kaufaman and his polemic ” Germany Must Perish.” First of all he published it in his own private capacity and dds not represent official Jewish policy internationally.To be sure many might of felt that way given what the Hitler and the Nazis had in mind for them and the way they treated them.With the invasion of the Soviet Union Einsatzgruppem mobile extermination squads were already in action against Jews in the occupied territories.
    But naturally the publication was a godsend for Nazi Propaganda and Goebell’s and most likely helped to crystalize and sharpen in their own minds what to finally do with them.
    It also has become a a bit of propaganda windfall for Holocaust deniers who have attempted every devious trick in their books to justify their views and discredit those of Jews and the historical reality and fact of the Holocaust. Most Jews sent East did not survive. Mist Germans sent back West did survive.!
    Reid, you again displaying your speciousness . Google ” Eisenhower death camps ” and naturally you’ll get very predictable results. Its known as Confirmation bias that links you to all the Anti Jew hating , holocaust denial and neo nazi etc under the sun.The one that dominates predictably is Jeff Resne’s blog , www resne.com. Its to the far right of Alex Jones, would you believe .!
    Enough said.!

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  69. stephieboy (2,788 comments) says:

    Colville , yes the 88mm flak gun ( augmented as a field gun ) was arguably was a great weapon but it couldn’t win the war. They were simply outgunned on all fronts and accounts.
    Also they simply could not match the industrial and personal output of the Allies.e. g the Soviet T34 and the US Sherman M 4 Tanks

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  70. stephieboy (2,788 comments) says:

    Harriet (3,685 comments) says:
    March 1st, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    iI take your latest diatribe is official Conservative Party Policy.?

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  71. valeriusterminus (243 comments) says:

    Hey Stephieboy
    Have you ever contemplated the fantastic logistics of Balfour’s “Right of Return” to the Homeland remiss a European “Sorting Hat” operation ?

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  72. HC (153 comments) says:

    The book Mein Kampf is hardly literary expertise on show, but to be honest, it has immense historic value, as it can be used to show what people are capable of. It also raises issues about policy, and while Hitler certainly was wrong on many issues or matters, he may indeed have had some points worth arguing. Sadly, in PC times, we are NOT allowed to even go near discussing that, as it is under NZ and English law now all VERBOTEN!

    So get a life, someone was prepared to pay that, to add to the personal library, but what does it matter?

    Are we as upset about inflated house prices in Auckland and Christchurch then? It seems not, maybe someone here gets the priorities wrong?

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  73. Colville (2,261 comments) says:

    stephieboy.
    The side that makes the most steel wins.
    In the case of WW2 that USA.
    Didnt 30 million tonnes on Liberty ships get sunk and yet they kept on keeping on?

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  74. HC (153 comments) says:

    “Now Post a Graph of Export to your Communist Mass Murderer Buddies now”

    Ben Dover, you raise a valid question. Here we have a NZ government and one blogger “moralise” about one past historic figure of disrepute, but we are daily engaged in massive exports to a regime that is not only democratic, but that persecutes and locks away thousands, even is suspected of killing political prisoners, apart from “organ harvesting”.

    The hypocrisy is mind boggling, and I dare to ask, what moral high ground have any here, to run down Nazis on one hand, as a convenient past enemy they beat, but do engage in trade with dictatorial and human rights breaching regimes. Shame on NZ for doing so!

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  75. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    The Australian Poet Banjo Patterson who worked on Ambulances in WW1
    wrote a poem post WW1 that predicts WW2 and
    if you read it it also predicts WW3

    Not bad for 1923? it is called a Job for McGuinness

    It is about the post WW1 depression era
    about a certain type of unemployed servicemen

    A Job for McGuinness

    <
    Oh, it's dreadful to think in a country like this
    With its chances for work – and enjoyment
    That a man like McGuinness was certain to miss
    Whenever he tried for employment.

    He wrote to employers from Bondi to Bourke,
    From Woolloomooloo to Glen Innes,
    But he found – though his wife could get plenty of work –
    There was never a job for McGuinness.

    But perhaps – later on – when the Chow and the Jap
    Begin to drift down from the tropics,
    When a big yellow stain spreading over the map
    Provides some disquieting topics,

    Oh, it's then when they're wanting a man that will stand
    In the trench where his own kith and kin is,
    With a frown on his face and a gun in his hand –
    Then there might be a job for McGuinness!

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  76. RRM (9,826 comments) says:

    The composer Richard Wagner was so anti-semitic he made Hitler look like a part-timer.

    What kind of person buys an autographed score of Die Meistersinger von Nuremburg?

    You’d have to be a sicko.

    Or someone with an eye for a good investment.

    Fuck off whale oil, you’re a dick. And you don’t know everything.

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  77. valeriusterminus (243 comments) says:

    Money, unstained genealogy, and for the rest – Work will set you free.
    Thanks Arthur !

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  78. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    I just want to pull you up on Theodore Kaufaman and his polemic ” Germany Must Perish.” First of all he published it in his own private capacity and dds not represent official Jewish policy internationally.

    I agree but he or the book handed them what they wanted? The Natzis
    It is a tool of NeoFascism (people need to be aware of it)
    they have others.

    Neo Fascism is on the increase it is alive and well in Australia just bubbling under the surface.

    Didn’t Hitler promise Fascist Italy most of Australia

    well they are all here anyway?

    Swastika rings are sold in High Street Auckland Golden Dawn etc etc etc etc

    The Beast has Awakened

    There has to be a way forward for Humanity

    I used to believe in a Form of Design Science Revolution that
    worked for the pragmatic and technical improvement for all people but

    Look around you?

    Chairman Mao’s Maori Cloak in Tepapa

    Cuckoo

    Many religions are given tax free status that are just

    Primitive Head Hunting Cults

    The Problems did not start with Hitler and will not end with him he did not act alone

    I have to study him for personal Historic research reasons revolting as it is I have to read
    FN Mein kamf

    I can only read it in small doses

    But Visions of Infamy

    which predicted the Pacific War

    is more relevant to All people in the South Pacific

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  79. Simon (697 comments) says:

    Hogan!

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  80. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

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  81. Bob R (1,363 comments) says:

    Memorabilia from major historical figures, good or bad, are always going to attract major interest. You’d get similar interest for something signed by Napoleon, Mao or Stalin for instance.

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  82. Ben Dover (526 comments) says:

    Yeah
    Bad enough a private collection but a State one

    the only thing we need to go with the Maori Cloak of
    Chairman MAO the Mass murderer

    is his undies so all the psychopath power freakin fascists can sniff them

    it is perverse in every sense of the word

    You have to study these like you study

    A DISEASE and THE DISEASE

    IS ALIVE AND WELL IN NEW ZEALAND

    AND I AM TELLING YOU LOUD AND CLEAR

    A GLOBAL EPIDEMIC IS COMING

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