Youth smoking way down

March 14th, 2014 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

The latest data from the ASH survey of Year 10 students is encouraging.

  • Only 3.2% of Year 10 students smoke daily, down from 15.6% in 1999
  • Only 8.5% of Maori Year 10 students smoke daily, down from 30.3% in 1999
  • Only 6.8% of Year 10 students smoke regularly, down from 28.6% in 1999
  • Only 14.7% of Maori Year 10 students smoke regularly, down from 42.8% in 1999

Most Year 10 students are 15, so ideally the rates should be 0%. There’s still a fair way to go, but the trend is encouraging. It’s one thing for adults to decide to smoke (fine so long aas they pay the costs of their healthcare, not me) but a very bad thing for teenagers to start .

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18 Responses to “Youth smoking way down”

  1. Harriet (4,505 comments) says:

    “…..It’s one thing for adults to decide to smoke (fine so long aas they pay the costs of their healthcare, not me)….”

    Well you don’t as you don’t buy smokes with huge taxes. That’s what the taxes were always for – smokers costly healthcare – everytime smokes went up in the 70′s and 80′s the government always said ‘to pay for the rising cost of smoking related healthcare.’ Sure, the high taxes are ALSO to stop people from smoking – but that was never the ONLY reason.

    Do you hold the same view with regards to irresponsable sexual practices by both hetro and homo people – I do. Those who are irresponsable with regards to sex should pay for sexual disease treatment and other related treatment – and women who recieve pre-natal care and then decide later to abort -for no physical reason- should then have to pay back the cost. That’s pretty fair.

    Healthcare is not for irresponsable people – unless they pay MORE in taxes or have private healthcare. Gays -being a reasonable example but not all of them- do not get taxed for their irresponsability.

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  2. mikenmild (10,630 comments) says:

    The crazy is strong with Harriet today.

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  3. RightNow (6,647 comments) says:

    “The crazy is strong with Harriet today.”

    By which you mean Harriet makes sense but you don’t like what she’s saying so you’ll just say mean things about her and hope it influences other people to dismiss her argument.

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  4. mikenmild (10,630 comments) says:

    No, by which I mean her idea to make women who choose to have abortions repay the cost of their previous healthcare is crazy.

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  5. srylands (386 comments) says:

    “No, by which I mean her idea to make women who choose to have abortions repay the cost of their previous healthcare is crazy.”

    Because?

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  6. thor42 (907 comments) says:

    This is a very good trend to see.

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  7. mikenmild (10,630 comments) says:

    srylands
    Oh, where to begin? I suppose, in Harriet’s crazed world, we could have some kind of insurance-based scheme where an individual’s health costs go up or down depending on the likely impact of behaviour on health status, but I think s/he was just trying to think of a way to punish women who choose to have abortions.

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  8. flash2846 (165 comments) says:

    Maori smoking rates need to be up, not down.
    Gotta get tax out of them somehow :)

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  9. georgebolwing (602 comments) says:

    It is not at all clear what net contribution smokers make to the fisc. We know two things for sure:

    a) they do pay a lot of tax;

    b) they tend to have poor health outcomes, the treatment of which can be costly.

    What we don’t know is how much of their poor health outcomes is due to smoking or due to other lifestyle features, like diet and exercise. Researchers refer to this as comparing the health outcomes of smokers to “non-smoking smokers”: people whose only difference from smokers is that they don’t smoke. As I understand it, “non-smoking smokers” do not have very different health outcomes to smokers, suggesting that smoking alone is not causing high health expenditure.

    The other issue is people who die of lung cancer and other smoking-related illness tend to die quickly, meaning that the cost of their health care is concentrated, compared to long-term chronic illnesses. And, by dying young, smokers don’t receive the age pension for as long, thus saving the state money.

    But more generally, I fully endorse the idea of removing the state provision of health care and making individuals responsible for their own choices. Any concerns about poverty should be addressed directly.

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  10. tvb (4,199 comments) says:

    It is not fine for adults to smoke. It is a dirty anti social habit. And they stink.

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  11. Tautaioleua (281 comments) says:

    As a young person, I’ve also noticed a drop in the number of my peers who smoke. Popular media is having a positive affect (most of the latest movies and TV dramas don’t showcase smoking as much anymore) too.

    Great news all around, unless you’re in the tobacco industry of course.

    :-)

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  12. gump (1,474 comments) says:

    @Harriet

    “Healthcare is not for irresponsable people – unless they pay MORE in taxes or have private healthcare. Gays -being a reasonable example but not all of them- do not get taxed for their irresponsability.”

    ————————————

    What about Rugby players? We spend millions of dollars treating paraplegics and tetraplegics, not to mention the costs associated with sprains and strains.

    Should Rugby Players be taxed for their irresponsibility in getting injured?

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  13. mikenmild (10,630 comments) says:

    Just a wild guess here – Harriet is not opposed to rugby players in the same way as s/he is opposed to gay people.

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  14. bc (1,332 comments) says:

    Only Harriet could turn a post about smoking rates into yet another rant about gays.
    We could turn this into a game: pick a random topic and see how Harriet turns it into an anti-gay discussion.
    I’ve never known someone to be so gay obsessed. Even gays themselves don’t talk about it that much!

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  15. Harriet (4,505 comments) says:

    Gump#

    “….what about Rugby players? We spend millions of dollars treating paraplegics and tetraplegics, not to mention the costs associated with sprains and strains….”

    I was under the impression that when you pay fees to your rugby/pony/motocross club some of that was an ACC payment but I could be wrong[been living in Aus for 20yrs].

    But it’s fair if rugby players ect do make an ACC payment. All workers do at a rate that reflects their job.[ they did when I was there.]

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  16. Harriet (4,505 comments) says:

    “…..Do you hold the same view with regards to irresponsable sexual practices by both hetro and homo people – I do. Those who are irresponsable with regards to sex…..” “……Gays -being a reasonable example but not all of them….”

    LOL Harriet you stupid homphobe & bigot……

    ……..no one is irresponsable with sex…….we spend millions educating school kids from 8ylds onwards……….all of it is very well spent and not a dollar of taxpayers money is wasted…….teenagers no longer get sexual diseases or pregnant….go back to your foolish religious closet. Loser. :cool:

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  17. griffith (1,111 comments) says:

    Smokers die young. They also pay more in tax than their extra health costs now.
    The loss in ciggy tax revenue combined with the cost of maintaining olds into their eight, ninth and tenth decade is going to have a negative impact on the country’s finances .

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  18. Harriet (4,505 comments) says:

    Well put Griff.

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