Dotcom invited to Mana AGM

April 7th, 2014 at 11:00 am by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

In a statement this evening, Harawira confirmed talks with Dotcom in central Auckland over the weekend to discuss possibilities “for a relationship between the Mana movement and the Internet Party”.

He said the Mana executive had extended an invitation to Dotcom to address its AGM on Saturday,.

Dotcom had accepted the invitation in order to “talk to and understand the views of Mana members” Harawira said.

Oh this is too funny to be true. Hone can’t wait to sell out.

So will any Mana member have the courage to get up and berate Dotcom over the low wages he pays his staff (allegedly below minimum wage).

Will any Mana member say how disgraceful a look it is for him to fly into Huka Lodge in a helicopter to relax for the weekend, while scores of struggling Kiwi businesses had been waiting over two years to be paid by him?

Or will they just ask him how much money they can have for their election campaign?

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61 Responses to “Dotcom invited to Mana AGM”

  1. Ryan Sproull (7,058 comments) says:

    Is Bradford invited? Is the next question.

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  2. wikiriwhis business (3,883 comments) says:

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  3. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    The money (read koha) from the obese German talks very loud. It’s too much of a temptation for the uncouth Harawira.

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  4. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Dishonest slobs of a feather . . . !

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  5. wikiriwhis business (3,883 comments) says:

    Third party representation potential I say.

    An excellent experiment in a democracy.

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  6. ShawnLH (4,412 comments) says:

    If Dotcon ends up king maker (unlikely) it will be the death of mmp.

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  7. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Manolo: The money Slobcom gives Hone should be paying his creditors and staff. He is interfering in our politics, and laughing at our left-wing inspired judiciary. He should be extradited NOW!

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  8. RightNow (6,835 comments) says:

    Hasn’t Hone learned anything about signing treaties?

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  9. queenstfarmer (754 comments) says:

    Not often I say this, but Sue Bradford has it right: Dotcom is “a man who tried to buy off the right and failed and now he seems to have turned to the left to buy the left off”.

    Perhaps Dotcom will turn up with muskets and blankets.

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  10. Keeping Stock (10,166 comments) says:

    @ Manolo – dead right. No doubt Dotcom will have been briefed about the protocol with regard to giving a koha to his hosts, and the envelope he presents Harawira with will be bursting with $100 notes. Hone should however check that the ink is dry :D

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  11. tvb (4,240 comments) says:

    I presume KDC will be paying for hospitality so that should fix it for him.

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  12. hmmokrightitis (1,566 comments) says:

    I have no time at all for Sue Bradford and her position on just about everything – I think shes a complete loon.

    But, I cannot fault her position on this, saying she will walk if a deal is done. Thats real integrity. Assuming she keeps her word of course :)

    A few others in public life could learn from that moral compass Ms B owns.

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  13. Keeping Stock (10,166 comments) says:

    @ queenstfarmer and hmmokrightitis – couldn’t agree more. I despise Sue Bradford’s politics, but I admire her display of principles – so far. Time will tell whether she is pressured to back down, or whether she accepts that the end justifies the means.

    The ball’s in your court Ms Bradford. You will have far more mana than your leader if you stick to your guns and walk away.

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  14. metcalph (1,401 comments) says:

    It wouldn’t the first time Sue Bradford walked away from a party. She quit New Labour after Anderton banished the Permanent Revolution Group.

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  15. JC (932 comments) says:

    Bradford and Minto will stay regardless.. they’ve got nowhere else to go and so will rationalise their positions as “acting as the conscience of the Party”.

    JC

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  16. Peter (1,662 comments) says:

    Does anyone really expect a stance on principle? This is the far left we’re talking about…

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  17. Puzzled in Ekatahuna (340 comments) says:

    Has anyone asked the Electoral Commission how such a union works.

    Do they appear as united Mana / Dotcom on the election papers?
    In which case they receive a combined party vote, and must have a combined and fixed Party List published before, for voters information.
    Otherwise, if you can still vote for independent parties each must still get over 5%, or have an electorate member to get in.

    It has gone on long enough that the Electoral Commission should confirm if it is legal or whether Mana / Dotcom just hope it is.

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  18. doggone7 (751 comments) says:

    “Oh this is too funny to be true. Hone can’t wait to sell out.”

    “Or will they just ask him how much money they can have for their election campaign?”

    Hone’s not supposed to meet people to sort out the best deal for himself? Hone might possibly “sell out.”
    To almost go back to the beginning, “This is too funny to be true.” No, not what Hone is up to but the reaction from a blog site person who gets invites to speak all over the place, be interviewed or have his say as a ‘serious’ commentator.

    Funny in what way? It’s the Mana Party, one seat out of 120 odd, not likely to be more, could be less with Kelvin Davis standing. Secondly it’s Dotcom who people like Farrar rubbish, who most say won’t make any dint on the real political landscape i.e. seats won, and who might be in the USA by years end.

    Finally, not really funny I suppose but ludicrous and pathetic at the same time, that Farrar scorns trying to cajole and wheedle money out of any nook and cranny, deal making and selling out to the highest bidder. How come when it’s John Key, the National Party and SkyCity do it it’s prudence?

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  19. davidp (3,556 comments) says:

    It isn’t as if Harawira is selling out the integrity of Mana for a few hundred thousand bucks. He is selling out Mana’s integrity for the PROMISE of a few hundred thousand bucks. And we all know what Dotcom’s promises are worth… If he stood behind his word then his staff wouldn’t be chasing him for unpaid wages that have been owing for months, he would have funded Team NZ, he would have built a submarine cable to the US and given everyone in NZ free internet, and (we’re getting in to bizarre world here, but he promised it) he would have paid a large reward to the people who traced and found bin Laden.

    Or, you could compare Mana’s situation to this exchange… recorded at night time a few weeks ago in a dodgy part of Auckland. Hone is standing on the footpath, dressed up in his dirty hooker-ware and looking for customers. A car pulls up and the window winds down…

    Dotcom: Hey love. How much for a hand job?

    Harawira: $20.

    Dotcom: Make it $10. And I have standards, so you have to use hand santitiser first.

    Harawira: Brandford and Minto aren’t going to be happy. But mum shouts at me when I come home with nothing. It’s a deal.

    Dotcom: Oh. I forgot to mention… I don’t have the money with me at the moment. What say I, errr, give it to you next week. I’m very rich so you know I have the money.

    Harwira: Norman said you promised him free internet in return for a 2 minute “Len Brown”, but he still has dialup. Peters said you promised to buy him a boat if he dressed up like a school girl and let you tie him up, but it turned out to be a drawing of a boat. How do I know I’m not going to end up with spunky hands and you won’t even give me my tenner?

    Dotcom: I gave Bradbury a new iMac and look how happy he is.

    Harawira: Okay then. But you have to promise to respect me, because no one else does.

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  20. chris (587 comments) says:

    I’m with Puzzled. I’ve asked about this at least a couple of times on this blog and no one seems to have an answer. How can 2 separate parties share a list? I don’t believe they can, and that they would literally have to merge as a single political party with at least 500 signed up members. That’s how the Alliance worked. If they can share a list, what’s stopping e.g. ACT and The Conservatives from doing the same thing?

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  21. RRM (9,631 comments) says:

    Capitalist 1% rich prick white motherfuckers are ok as long as they’re giving you cash.

    Or as Comrade Napoleon put it, “Four legs good, two legs BETTER!”

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  22. David Garrett (6,712 comments) says:

    metcalph: Are you serious? A New Zealand political party once had “permanent revolution” group a la Castro’s Cuba, Mao and Adolf??

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  23. RRM (9,631 comments) says:

    what’s stopping e.g. ACT and The Conservatives from doing the same thing?

    Policies? ;-)

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  24. chris (587 comments) says:

    Im not really sure Mana and DotCom’s parties share much similarity with regards to policy either, RRM. And yes, I did see your winky ;)

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  25. Reid (16,085 comments) says:

    Puzzled and chris, read this. Also bear in mind Graeme Edgelar is the IP’s legal counsel so presumably whether or not what whale says is the actual plan, whatever it is will check out legally.

    http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/03/relationship-hone-harawira-kim-dotcom/

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  26. Pete George (23,273 comments) says:

    Mana-Internet deal possible – Electoral Commission

    The Electoral Commission says it would be possible for the Mana Party and the Internet Party to campaign together under an umbrella group and share the party vote.
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    Mana on Sunday raised the possibility that it could share a joint list with the yet-to-be-launched Internet Party of Kim Dotcom.
    That would mean their respective members would run in electorates under their separate parties, but only the umbrella group would appear under the party vote section on voters’ ballots.

    That umbrella group could be either of the two parties, or another party set up to subsume the other two.

    Chief electoral officer Robert Pedan said the Alliance Party operated that way for the 1996 and 1999 elections.

    The Mana Party says a merger with Kim Dotcom’s Internet Party is not an option, but an arrangement involving a joint list and sharing the party vote could be.

    Mana’s secretary Gerard Hehir says a formal merger is not an option, but there may be scope for an arrangement where they campaign together under an umbrella party to take advantage of the combined party vote.

    Professor Andrew Geddis from the University of Otago says the arrangement is like a marriage of convenience and similar things have been done in the past. He pointed to the grouping of parties under the Alliance.

    “The Alliance party was the name on the party on the ballot paper that people ticked, but underneath remained Mana, the Green party was originally in there, new Labour was in there, the Liberal party was in there. So, they remained individual parties in their own right.”

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/239630/mana-internet-deal-possible-commission

    The Electoral Commission have generally been conservative about what they allow, but there seems to be no problem with a combined list.

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  27. chris (587 comments) says:

    It might be legal, but it still doesn’t make any sense. I wouldn’t vote for the Conservatives, but seriously if Mana and DotCom can do this, the Conservatives and ACT should do the same thing.

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  28. chris (587 comments) says:

    “The Alliance party was the name on the party on the ballot paper that people ticked, but underneath remained Mana, the Green party was originally in there, new Labour was in there, the Liberal party was in there. So, they remained individual parties in their own right.”

    If I recall correctly, the individuals were listed as Alliance candidates. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

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  29. metcalph (1,401 comments) says:

    David Garrett

    The people concerned were Trots. I think there must have been less than ten people in the PRG and Anderton kicked them out because they were being disruptive.

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  30. griffith (1,111 comments) says:

    Criss we had a conservative act party with banks .
    did you notice the response of the electorate?
    Act tanked.
    As did the brief flirtation with the ultra conservative christian brethren affect national.
    I actually wish the conservative party all the best
    The sooner we have strong separation between liberal and conservative factions on the right the better
    It would mean The right wing has finally woken up to MMP

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  31. Puzzled in Ekatahuna (340 comments) says:

    How this works is this way. There is a Party A and Party B.
    Both are registered parties…and both stand for election in a general election.
    At some point it appears that Party B may win a seat due to the force of character of one of the candidates…but the Party B has only about 1% support nationwide.
    Party A though has about 3% support but no prospect of winning a seat.
    Party A could in theory become a component party of Party B…or vice versa…notify the Electoral Commission “as soon as practicable” as s128A requires and thereby combine and gain extra seats…off of the back of the electorate seat win and the combined percentage of 3-4% thereby gaining 4 or so MPs.

    This is fraught with danger however and may not even be acceptable to the Electoral Commission, let alone the electorate.
    http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/03/relationship-hone-harawira-kim-dotcom/

    OK, well that really doesn’t tell us much more, and I still do not see, apart from them having a combined part list, what a Party voter could vote for.
    They couldn’t have two lists, otherwise a 5% threshold applies to each.
    They can’t combine them after the Election, because that is not what people voted for.
    And a combined list would have to be “set in concrete” otherwise it would put in parliament, members not elected by party which is what the list if for.

    You follow :-) … anyone? :-)

    [In the 1999 election, the Alliance gained around 8% of the vote, giving it ten seats. – sounds like a single combined List]

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  32. RightNow (6,835 comments) says:

    Peter Dunne should get in on this – with Ohariu as a fairly safe electorate seat he might be able to get one or two extra MP’s in if the IP can bring in some extra party vote.
    United Internet Future Party – catchy

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  33. dime (9,646 comments) says:

    Rich European buys Maoris off cheap HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAAHA

    This is just gold.

    “bro, you fuckin whiteys ripped us off! you stole from us” – nah, some asshole maori got PAID at some point back in the day, just at the expense of other maori.

    Repeat cycle.

    Glorious.

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  34. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    RN
    I reckon Peter Dunne could be a good candidate to be that sitting MP that Dotcom says he already has in his pocket.

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  35. Rex Widerstrom (5,327 comments) says:

    chris says:

    If I recall correctly, the individuals were listed as Alliance candidates. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

    That accords with my recollection too chris. NewLabour, the Greens, the Democrats and Mana Motuhake agreed to form a fifth, separate, party to be called The Alliance. The constituent parties then divided up electorate seats and list places amongst them (and, later, the Liberal Party). Naturally the constituent parties agreed not to stand candidates under their own banners.

    Mana and the Internet Party would have to agree to become “component parties” of a third party; they couldn’t simply run a merged ticket.

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  36. Puzzled in Ekatahuna (340 comments) says:

    Rex – Mana and the Internet Party would have to agree to become “component parties” of a third party; they couldn’t simply run a merged ticket.

    Like Rainbow ortion now is part of Labout, and Young Nats part of the National Party.
    Internet Party and Mana would have to run combined under a third name.

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  37. RightNow (6,835 comments) says:

    Mikenmild, I wouldn’t put it past him.

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  38. doggone7 (751 comments) says:

    chris: “…but seriously if Mana and DotCom can do this, the Conservatives and ACT should do the same thing.”

    There possibly has been thought been put into this, there possibly have been questions raised, there may have even been discussions mooted or meetings planned.

    If any of those have happened or do happen there will be no major kerfuffle on here. As already said it will be called doing what needs to be done to get into or stay in power, playing the game as it needs to be played. In the context of these pages it’s not right if Dotcom and Harawira do it though.

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  39. RightNow (6,835 comments) says:

    doggone7, I think you need an antacid tablet. Since you don’t see any glaringly obvious smack you in the face fundamental differences between Harawera and Schmitz, perhaps you could enlighten me with what their common policy platforms are?

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  40. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    Get rid of John Key and have cheaper internet?

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  41. RightNow (6,835 comments) says:

    I can see the first one is a given, but I doubt they’ll agree on the second one, I’m sure Hone’s position is that Maori are the traditional owners of the data transport layer.

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  42. georgebolwing (673 comments) says:

    Mana and the Internet Party have choices to make.

    The simpliest is that they both stay as registered parties, but only one submit a list and they encourage all their supporters to vote for that list. The list would be public before the election.

    The choise here is which party has the strongest brand and can they be confident that all the supports of both parties will (a) understand and (b) follow the suggestion.

    The second is that form a new Party, a la the Alliance, and for it to be the sole vehicle. Easier to explain. Post the elelction, the precedent of the Greens remaining in the Alliance for parliamentary funding purposes, but campaigning as a seperate party in the lead-up to the 1999 elelction, is also available.

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  43. ShawnLH (4,412 comments) says:

    I’m no fan of Dunne, but I can’t see him jumping into bed with Hone and Dotcon.

    Oh great, now I have that image in my head.

    *shudder*

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  44. kaykaybee (149 comments) says:

    Confirms what I have always thought….MANA are all hot air and weasel words. Amazing how short a distance Hone has travelled since the days his forebears sold out for promises, nails, blankets and the odd musket. Dotcom represents all that is an anathema to them surely!

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  45. chris (587 comments) says:

    doggone7:

    chris: “…but seriously if Mana and DotCom can do this, the Conservatives and ACT should do the same thing.”

    There possibly has been thought been put into this, there possibly have been questions raised, there may have even been discussions mooted or meetings planned.

    If any of those have happened or do happen there will be no major kerfuffle on here. As already said it will be called doing what needs to be done to get into or stay in power, playing the game as it needs to be played. In the context of these pages it’s not right if Dotcom and Harawira do it though.

    I don’t think it’s right if anyone does it, by somehow sharing a list. I only made that suggestion because if one side’s doing it, then other side may as well too. It’s a stupid rule if it’s allowed.

    On the other hand, if Mana and the Internet Party were to create a new single party (e.g. ManaInternetParty) that had party members, candidates standing for it and a list for it, then that would make sense. Well it’d make sense from a purely political perspective. It still wouldn’t make sense that Mana’s getting into bed with the antithesis of what it stands for ;)

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  46. ROJ (97 comments) says:

    What the heck is it with folk here, and pretty much most of the MSM, to conflate the Conservatives and ACT as the same “right-wing” ?

    That’s just imagining the American situation with their Republicans. And I’m sure that’s a creature of their history, FFP and only two historic parties. Not even with a party whip that can get actual government.

    What I do read about the minute amount of policy uttered by CC, he’s an unreformed SOCIAL conservative with an incredibly populist view of finance – “oh that would be nice to have …”. Watch out Winnie.

    Back at ACT, there are fiscal dries with frequently very liberal social views – to the point which frightens many back into their comfy chairs.

    Sound like the same agenda – NOT !!

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  47. Komata (1,140 comments) says:

    KKB

    Re: ‘Amazing how short a distance Hone has travelled since the days his forebears sold out for promises, nails, blankets and the odd musket. Dotcom represents all that is an anathema to them surely!’

    No, it’s different when you do it yourself, but remember, based-on past experience, when everything goes wrong (as it inevitably will), it’s all the white man’s fault; he led the poor ignorant maori to trade-away his freedom …

    As it completely reinforces their perceptions and conforms to the narrative that they WANT to believe, the tragedy is that Hone’s constituents will accept that reasoning without questioning ‘Why’.

    Ultimately, at least in this instance, it all depends on how things are presented.

    BTW: A dollar to a donut that the ‘lower classes’ won’t see the money, Titiwhai and ‘the cuzzy’s’ will get new cars and that Ngapuhi will eventually discover that, as a result of Hone’s actions, they have sold-away their heritage for the proverbial ‘baubles’, without even being aware it has gone.

    Sue Bradford probably won’t walk either – it’s all noise..

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  48. chris (587 comments) says:

    ROJ: FWIW, I don’t think ACT and the Conservatives are at all alike. I would doubt the Conservatives are even much of a “right wing” party at all from the policies I have seen. I only suggested it because it a political party with a seat but no party vote and another party which may potentially have some party vote can do this, even though they are nothing alike, then perhaps other parties should do it too. Peter Dunne + the Conservatives would probably make more sense. I should have suggested that :)

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  49. ShawnLH (4,412 comments) says:

    “he’s an unreformed SOCIAL conservative”

    That’s an interesting way of putting it.

    There is some common ground between ACT and the Conservatives, especially on education.

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  50. georgebolwing (673 comments) says:

    While there might be some common ground between ACT and the Conservatives, there is also some common ground between almost all the the political parties.

    But there are greater differences, best summed up in William Harcourt’s statment: “But liberty does not consist in making others do what you think right”. The Conversatives do believe in making others do what they think right, ACT doesn’t.

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  51. lolitasbrother (580 comments) says:

    We are having a Conservative Party meeting in Christchurch tonight
    I don’t go because whenever you go to a party meeting they give you work.
    I found that out especially with Act. You pay me here they say and I will represent you .
    Act were very draining , and nil result

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  52. Warren Murray (289 comments) says:

    Hone has found a very effective way of getting noticed. Before this, who knew, or cared, that Mana was having its party conference.

    With the help of Kim dotcom, Hone’s getting almost as much media exposure as Cunliffe, for a fraction of the effort. From his pov, that has to be good.

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  53. ShawnLH (4,412 comments) says:

    “The Conversatives do believe in making others do what they think right, ACT doesn’t.”

    Sure they do. I don’t know the status of it now but one of ACT’s original and central policies was compulsory retirement savings.

    Unless ACT has adopted the non-aggression principle and become a real Libertarian party, they cannot claim that are not going to make people do things.

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  54. Anthony (785 comments) says:

    When I read “sell out” I thought DPF meant the AGM would be a sell-out of capacity with everyone wanting seats to see the discussion!

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  55. CharlieBrown (921 comments) says:

    Hone… Sell out… John Key… sell out, two peas from the same pod.

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  56. Nostalgia-NZ (5,025 comments) says:

    All the dotcom talk seems to push Cunliffe out of the picture, probably giving his breathing space on which to build. In the meantime it can’t be ignored that dotcom was hysterically predicted to have been deported a couple of years ago, and more recently that the IP was never going to see the light of day – still gives the feeling that’s the IP is being fed votes.

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  57. DJP6-25 (1,301 comments) says:

    The Internet Party has done a great job at showing up the left for what they are. Hypocrites.

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  58. Johnboy (15,537 comments) says:

    If Mana baptised the German in cold tea they could make him an honorary Murri. He has suitable BMI to pass as a bro. :)

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  59. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (828 comments) says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised Hone becomes the Justice Minister in David Cunliffe-Norman cabinet. A mere coincidence……

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  60. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (828 comments) says:

    The name of the new party is MANA.COM – rocking!

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  61. itstricky (1,689 comments) says:

    Meanwhile Banks has his appeal thrown out. I’m surprised one Dotcom related story makes it all the way to Nepal but the other doesn’t…

    http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11233854

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