Labour again focusing on the big issues

April 22nd, 2014 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

The Herald reported:

Labour’s Immigration spokesman says he would be concerned if British television cook was given an exemption to come to New Zealand solely because of her celebrity status while other cases of people in more need were being rejected.

Labour now campaigning on keeping Nigella out of NZ. That will go down well.

Although she had no convictions, Ms Lawson was ineligible for a visa because the United States had refused entry, so a discretionary ‘special direction’ was required for her to enter New Zealand in May to film another advertisement for Whittakers chocolate.

Mr Prasad said as a general rule he did not believe people who abused drugs should be allowed in to New Zealand but there should be discretion to allow it in special circumstances.

Really? So he thinks Bill Clinton should have been declines a visa, because he smoked pot at Oxford? Also should the Beatles have been banned?

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62 Responses to “Labour again focusing on the big issues”

  1. prosper (130 comments) says:

    How does Prasad feel about not only letting convicted terrorists with no documentation into the country but giving him permanent residence. Achmed Zoui. How does he feel about letting in and giving residence to a convicted fraudster Kim Schmidt. Idiot!

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  2. Southern Raider (1,539 comments) says:

    If Nigella needs to be bonded to a fixed addres while in NZ as part of her visa requirement I’m happy to take a hit for the country and offer my house.

    Just need to find a way to get rid of the wife for a week

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  3. Manolo (13,330 comments) says:

    Prasad is an imbecile, a socialist imbecile. Enough said.

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  4. Inky_the_Red (734 comments) says:

    David, an MP raises an issue on who we let into the country. Maybe if this government had more criteria than letting in as many rich people as possible then DotCom wouldn’t be here

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  5. big bruv (13,218 comments) says:

    There are two very big reasons why Nigella should be welcomed into New Zealand.

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  6. alex Masterley (1,490 comments) says:

    I would hate to see what Mr Prasad thinks about the Rolling Stones.
    You can’t say that Mick and the boys have been paragons of virtue!

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  7. Dean Papa (709 comments) says:

    Whittakers chocolate is horrible, especially that L&P flavoured rubbish. That should be reason enough to ban her.

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  8. RRM (9,428 comments) says:

    There are two very big reasons why Nigella should be welcomed into New Zealand.

    :-)

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  9. ShawnLH (3,213 comments) says:

    It seems that every time someone from Labour opens their mouth it is calculated to turn as many NZer’s off as possible, like Cunliffe’s whining about the royal visit.

    They really do seem to be trying real hard to lose the election.

    Good on them! :)

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  10. gazzmaniac (2,317 comments) says:

    Bill Clinton should be OK. He did not inhale.
    Or have sex with that woman.

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  11. mikemikemikemike (301 comments) says:

    Leaving partisanship aside DPF:

    an official agrees to grant citizenship to person against official advice, and is currently up on criminal charges = OK

    opposition representative – ‘we should consider not letting people who have admitted to Class A substance abuse’ = not OK

    huh?

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  12. dime (9,368 comments) says:

    that’s the spirit labour! pick on the chick who everyone likes and who was recently assaulted/humiliated in public by her asshole husband. thumbs up!

    Dime says – piss off back to Fiji dick wad!

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  13. DJP6-25 (1,268 comments) says:

    Manolo 10.12 AM. Socialist/imbecile. Same thing really.

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  14. GPT1 (2,087 comments) says:

    It’s a transparently desperate publicity whore PR. I see he’s been backtracking. What annoys me is that the MSM simply get a comment from someone and mash it in with the PR for the story. What about ringing him and asking him “what about the Rolling Stones” etc.

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  15. BeaB (2,056 comments) says:

    I wonder if Prasad has discussed this with his colleagues – or Labour’s mates in the Greens. NZ would empty out if everyone who ‘abused’ drugs wasn’t welcome here. of course the upside could be ta ta to Russel Norman.

    By the way Dime I am not sure exactly how blameless Nigella was in that whole divorce fiasco. She had much better PR but as much as I like her and her cookbooks I think she made sure Saatchi was seen as the villain while she was the innocent victim. It’s not usually that clearcut.

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  16. WineOh (541 comments) says:

    Another reason why Labour is in such trouble at the polls at the moment – they are pissing around the edges rather than contributing any significant & popular policy directions. Honestly… Nigella Lawson and registration on trailers & caravans.

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  17. dime (9,368 comments) says:

    BeaB – she got strangled in public. dont get me wrong, im sure shes not blameless. she coulda been saying anything “i blew your best mate” etc but still, what kind of week asshole cant control himself and strangles his chick?

    Also, isnt her husband some guru? he invented/made her etc? and he has crap PR now? lol

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  18. mandk (818 comments) says:

    alex Masterley: “You can’t say that Mick and the boys have been paragons of virtue!”

    I think you mean Sir Michael (and soon to become Lord Jagger of Dartford?) :-)

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  19. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    So I’m guessing that a reporter rang Prasad out of no where and asked him for a quote, so he had no chance to think about the issue and to prepare a properly-considered response. But surely an MP should be able to think on his feet, rather than stuff those feet in to his mouth. Is it possible that he was drunk at the time? Because it sounds like the sort of incoherence I’d come out with after drinking a bottle of wine, and someone had just woken me up and forced me to talk to them about any issue more complicated than “would you like a lift home”.

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  20. wreck1080 (3,725 comments) says:

    Every person who admitted smoking drugs (in media / biographies) should be on the US ban list.

    You’d ban a lot of people, including Steve Jobs were he still alive!!!

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  21. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (785 comments) says:

    Next Labour leader is just warming up bros….

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  22. Rich Prick (1,538 comments) says:

    Oh God, and we’re paying this tool to be a fool!

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  23. doggone7 (677 comments) says:

    Rajen Prasad said something. Rajen Prasad said something about an immigration issue. Rajen Prasad probably says a lot of things.

    And so headlines like “Labour again focusing on the big issues” are born.

    How about the other headline? “Rajen Prasad says something unimportant and it becomes a big deal on one of New Zealand’s most read blog sites which is again focusing on the big issues the country faces.”

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  24. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    doggone7>And so headlines like “Labour again focusing on the big issues” are born

    I agree the headline isn’t particularly useful. It should actually read “Labour MP too dim to think on feet – Still selected for Labour List – Could be a Minister in September”.

    Alternately, you could contrast the Greens approach to immigration, where foreign criminals who promise to do electoral favours for the Greens will escape extradition, to Labour wanting to ban people who haven’t been convicted of any crime but have confessed to a misdemeanour some time in the past.

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  25. somewhatthoughtful (450 comments) says:

    I’d probably be blogging about this too, you know, given Collins.

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  26. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    What has Prasad got to say about Darien Fenton, a self confessed crack addict. Does it now matter when its a leeching leftie?

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  27. mikenmild (10,620 comments) says:

    I think you’ll find Fenton was addicted to heroin, not crack.

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  28. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    mikenmild: Who gives a stuff what it was hooked on, it is a leeching left-wing addict . . . should not be in Parliament paid by decent hard-working taxpayers. The whole Labour movement is run by liars, leeches, and losers. The leader even has a fictitious CV.

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  29. tvb (4,197 comments) says:

    She is a poster child on how cool it is to take drugs. But people can judge her on her merits. I do not think she has much to offer.

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  30. Rex Widerstrom (5,254 comments) says:

    Mr Prasad said as a general rule he did not believe people who abused drugs should be allowed in to New Zealand

    Drug (ab)use – as opposed to drug dealing – is a health issue. Obviously Dr Prasad has a PhD not a medical degree, but did he not study anything useful to get it?

    Are we going to ban those who’ve ever over-indulged in alcohol? Because it’s far more likely, statistically, that a booze hound will cause trouble in NZ during a visit (especially if following a sports team) than someone who once used drugs.

    Come to think of it, I’d be all for that if we applied the rule to everyone who tries to get into the country. That way when an MP went off on a “fact finding” mission we could refuse them re-entry based on the fact it was clearly an excuse for a piss up.

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  31. BeaB (2,056 comments) says:

    “BeaB – she got strangled in public. dont get me wrong, im sure shes not blameless.
    Also, isnt her husband some guru? he invented/made her etc? and he has crap PR now? lol”

    As far as I know she admitted they were having an affair while her first husband was dying of throat cancer and they married within a very short time after his death. She was already famous in her own right and had a full publicity machine. Because she is alive and kicking now I doubt he actually strangled her and they were photographed the following week at the same table at the same restaurant having a perfectly amiable meal together. No mention of that since.
    Let’s not fall for the hype and the sensationalised press reports.
    Interesting that her mother was a famous bolter and also had a rocky marital history.

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  32. straighteight (2 comments) says:

    Is Rajen Prasad going to be the immigration minister under labour ? better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool ! but now we know, how many more fools are under the Labour bed ?
    What have these people done (Labour) other than tick boxes ? Gay, woman, deaf, blind, Maori, India, idiot, dumb, dumber,,,,, do they even vet these people or do they just want the right demographic standing in the election and if they get elected they are then spoon fed media bites and polices ? if so then they need to minder these fools and remind them to talk to Matt before they open there mouth.

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  33. dime (9,368 comments) says:

    BeaB – so youre the sort to take a punch and forgive? nice.

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  34. georgebolwing (602 comments) says:

    It continues to infuriate me that politicians in New Zealand, especially junior opposition ones, think that holding the government to account always involves criticising every decision made by the government, at either the ministerial or official level.

    My reaction to the story that Ms Lawson had been given special permission to enter NZ was “good”. The US decision to ban her on the basis of self-admitted infrequent recreational use, with no conviction, was heavy-handed idiocy of the highest order. That someone in the New Zealand government made a sensible decision should be a matter for praise, not routine carping.

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  35. BeaB (2,056 comments) says:

    Dime
    You need to cool down and have a wee rest. Nigella is getting you over-heated.

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  36. johnwellingtonwells (121 comments) says:

    Perhaps Prasad’s reasoning has been affected by being forced to sit next to Clare Curran?

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  37. mikenmild (10,620 comments) says:

    I’ve just re-read this post. Is it just me, or did DPF completely misrepresent what Prasad said? He didn’t say Lawson should not be allowed into NZ, did he?

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  38. dime (9,368 comments) says:

    “You need to cool down and have a wee rest. Nigella is getting you over-heated.” – huh?

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  39. mikenmild (10,620 comments) says:

    dime is immune to Nigella’s charms.

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  40. doggone7 (677 comments) says:

    At least an acknowledgement to igm please for getting one thing right!

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  41. Fentex (857 comments) says:

    Labour now campaigning on keeping Nigella out of NZ. That will go down well.

    Labour is right to criticise exceptional treatment of people for their celebrity. It is a good and pertinent question to ask why a person is privileged over others.

    It is a weakness of National that it’s ministers are vulnerable to questions about ethics, morality and possible corruption and Labour should be keeping questions that reflect on that before the public.

    It is a weakness of Labours that they have so often botched presenting to the public that their opponents can now roll anything coming from them into an ongoing joke about how minor it all is.

    Corruption and privilege to celebrity is not a minor concern. This particular item is not, however, an exemplar of corruption but merely a needle of privilege to poke with. But as a reminder that corruption is an issue for New Zealanders to keep in mind come elections it has a use.

    It is a shame that Labour is wielding that needle with it’s own house in no good order.

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  42. kowtow (7,585 comments) says:

    Never mind Slick Willy ,what about Obummer and the Choom Gang?

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/06/18/rare-photo-of-barack-obama-the-choom-gang-unearthed/

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  43. stephieboy (2,154 comments) says:

    kowtow, errr a reminder. You naturally choose to ignore your idol Republican GWB and his interesting track record with Alcohol , DIC and Cocaine abuse ,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_substance_abuse_controversy

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  44. Barnsley Bill (974 comments) says:

    Who can name all the Labour people involved in “gifting” citizenship to Bill Liu?
    We can start with Jones and Samuels.

    Looks to me like he bought his way in, how many others offered a bung and got the red carpet when Labour were last in charge.
    A fucking Lootocracy.

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  45. kowtow (7,585 comments) says:

    stephie

    No need to remind us.

    The MSM and other leftists, eg you,were all over that story big time.

    The Choom Gang? Not so much.

    http://www.ezralevant.com/baracks_backstory/

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  46. David Garrett (6,333 comments) says:

    I’m astounded Rajen Prasad is the spokesman for anything! He contributed so little to the debate when I was there that I once raised a bullshit point of order about the “stranger” on the floor of the House …IIRC I described him as “that brown skinned chap with glasses sitting to the left of X”. Got a smack from the assistant speaker, but it livened up a dull night.

    I recall his “contribution” to the 3S debate was the phrase “you just want to punish” endlessly repeated. Unsurprisingly he didnt actually attempt a speech…

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  47. mikenmild (10,620 comments) says:

    David – he’s also Associate Spokesperson for Ethnic Affairs and Associate Spokesperson for Social Development (CYFS) – quite the heavy hitter.

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  48. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    I wonder if Oscar Pistorius would be welcomed by this government. I suspect he would.

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  49. David Garrett (6,333 comments) says:

    Mikey: He is actually an object lesson in what bullshit half the sincecures the lefties have introduced are…As Race Relations Conciliator he could get away with not doing or saying very much of any consequence…When you are on daily show in the House it quickly becomes obvious who are the dumb/lazy/incompetent/unable to debate…Prasad appeared to be all four to me…Well, perhaps I am being a bit unkind with “dumb”…he never said enough to make a proper judgment…

    Ross: Fuck off to the Standard and peddle your sad line there…they’ll lap it up…Excellent also to see you have convicted Pistorious before Her Honour and the two Assessors have…and with the trial only half done…

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  50. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    How does he feel about letting in and giving residence to a convicted fraudster Kim Schmidt. Idiot!

    Well, that’s your beloved National Party for you!

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  51. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    When you are on daily show in the House it quickly becomes obvious who are the dumb/lazy/incompetent/unable to debate

    Is that a veiled reference to Simon Bridges and Judith Collins?

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  52. itstricky (1,539 comments) says:

    How about the other headline? “Rajen Prasad says something unimportant and it becomes a big deal on one of New Zealand’s most read blog sites which is again focusing on the big issues the country faces.”

    You do know there’s nothing else to talk about, right? I mean National are too s* scared to talk about anything.

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  53. doggone7 (677 comments) says:

    itstricky

    Such flippancy about such an important issue! But at least it gave igm the chance to show he could spell ‘cv’ correctly.

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  54. RRM (9,428 comments) says:

    Sad, pathetic and desperate.

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  55. mikenmild (10,620 comments) says:

    Yes RRM, it was a sad, pathetic and desperate posting by DPF.

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  56. itstricky (1,539 comments) says:

    I described him as “that brown skinned chap with glasses sitting to the left of X”. Got a smack from the assistant speaker, but it livened up a dull night.

    Nup, that’s sad, pathetic and desperate. Shows the quality of our.politicians I guess. Really, you thought that was ‘livening’? Ever thought to yourself why you had to distinguish him by skin colour?

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  57. David Garrett (6,333 comments) says:

    tricky: Perhaps to distinguish him from the other colourless white men to his left and right?

    As for “livening”, you no doubt have never sat through the committee stages of some utterly boring tax bill…actually you’ve never been there at all (or probably done anything else of note) so you actually have a clue of which you speak…

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  58. itstricky (1,539 comments) says:

    Of course I don’t. I do recognise an attention seeker who somehow needs to distinguish a man by the colour of his skin rather than his person though.

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  59. Johnboy (14,911 comments) says:

    Gee I’ve actually learned how to spell Ragin Prisshards name from all this publicity the little fellers finally getting! :)

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  60. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Ross69: Pick up your benefit and go to the pub, along with your leeching cohorts. People such as you, living lives in envy of the successful make me puke.

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  61. itstricky (1,539 comments) says:

    It’s amazing you know what the guy/girl does for a living. For all you know s/he could be more successful than you.

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  62. doggone7 (677 comments) says:

    its tricky: ” For all you know s/he could be more successful than you”

    Mathematics might pose a problem. The disparagement carried the implication of someone being worth nothing. A claim will be made to being four times as successful. Before New Maths and National Standards, 4 x nothing equaled nothing!

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