72% against big spending increases

May 15th, 2014 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

Stuff reports on their Ipsos poll that only 21% of adults said the should see a big increase in spending, 51% say the current spending levels should be maintained and 21% say spending should be cut.

So 72% are against increasing spending beyond current levels. That’s excellent for those who believe in fiscal restraint and a rejection of those who propose big tax and spending increases.

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24 Responses to “72% against big spending increases”

  1. Longknives (4,690 comments) says:

    Then 72% should know who to vote for in the upcoming election! Simple as that…

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  2. queenstfarmer (774 comments) says:

    True, mind you Labour & the Greens seem to classify tax cuts as “spending increases”…

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  3. thePeoplesFlag (242 comments) says:

    News shock: Biased question in poll by right wing newspaper delivers predictable outcome.

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  4. alloytoo (530 comments) says:

    @Queenstfarmer

    Easy mistake for them to make, the reduced tax on their constituents benefits would technically be a spending increase.

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  5. deadrightkev (441 comments) says:

    Its time NZ embarked on a strategic reduction in government spending and corresponding tax cuts moving toward a flat tax. It is a matter of international competitiveness as much as creating a more dynamic economy.

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  6. James Stephenson (2,153 comments) says:

    Biased question in poll by right wing newspaper delivers predictable outcome.

    Could you explain why you believe the question is biased, or are you just trolling for the sake of it?

    I agree though, 50% in favour of steady-as-she-goes status quo, is hardly a surprising result.

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  7. dime (9,856 comments) says:

    Man this country is left wing. Leighton Smith on the radio this morning:

    “in times like this, what is the first thing you do? when you get a surplus you pay back debt!”

    Dime would have thought the first thing you do when going backwards is cut spending, then pay some debt back.

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  8. RightNow (6,986 comments) says:

    thePeoplesFlag is doing satire now too? Sir Cullens Sidekick is really getting a lot of competition lately.

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  9. James Stephenson (2,153 comments) says:

    Its time…

    You’re dead right, kev.

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  10. dime (9,856 comments) says:

    rightnow – fwag has gone beyond sad. not even a troll anymore. just desperate for attention.

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  11. ShawnLH (4,605 comments) says:

    “Sir Cullens Sidekick is really getting a lot of competition lately.”

    Sir Cullen’s Sidekick is actually funny though. TPF is just plain boring.

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  12. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (876 comments) says:

    Gim me my @thepeoplesflag back!!!

    OK, I think Cunliffe will attack this budget saying there is nothing in it for first home buyers! I am not sure what Government can do for first home buyers….do they expect the government to give them the 20% deposit for free?

    I am not excited with this budget. As there will not be anything meaningful for any group to be satisfied. Most of the announcements have been already made. English is not known to make any surprise announcements in the budget….so this is going to be as dull as a Green party conference. Move on fellows……the budget will be a massive failure except for the milestone of reaching a $62.13M surplus (my prediction)….

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  13. david (2,556 comments) says:

    STUFF, it would seem, don’t read and digest their own poll results. Their on-line poll asking about what people want to see in the budget is all about “more spending on …” this and that. “Extra support for …” lots of other things etc. Nowhere is the subject given the choice of “Further reduce the size of Government” or “Cut public sector wastage by a further 3% per annum” etc.

    In other words the default mindset of outfits like STUFF is that the meaning of “The Budget” is that it is a lolly scramble with handouts and freebies rather than a document that describes the country’s financial direction for the following x years.

    This may be a throwback to the good-ol-days when everyone stocked up on ciggies and beer filled the car with petrol and gathered around the wireless on budget night to count up what it would mean to them with registers kept of “winners and losers”.

    Unfortunately it seems that the media have not kept up with the improving financial understanding of the population and the more intelligent approach that is now taken to the country’s financial affairs.

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  14. Ross12 (1,410 comments) says:

    Cunliffe’s hypocrisy —

    https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/23527809/opposition-demands-govt-act-swiftly-on-debt/

    When the asset sales were on he fought “tooth and nail” but a prime purpose for those was to control debt levels now he comes out with this rubbish. Have the Labour internal polls finally told him voters aren’t interested in personal attacks trying to remove Ministers and they are more interested in the state of the economy ?

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  15. Ed Snack (1,849 comments) says:

    The Dom is now a “right wing newspaper”, when did that happen ? It has been a reliable left-biased publication for many, many years, just look at the editorial comment for a start, and the guest commentors that are published.

    I think what has happened is that it hasn’t gone “left” to the extent that tpf would like and so gets labelled as “reactionary”.

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  16. emmess (1,427 comments) says:

    Interesting that the Labour/Green position (increase spending) has roughly the same level of popularity as the ACT position.
    As people reduce reliance on the mainstream media, a Labour/Green government will become increasingly unelectable if they hold that position.

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  17. Martin Gibson (242 comments) says:

    Astonishing that 78% of respondents though that the current 42% of GDP or more should be government spending! 25% would be better, en route to 20%.

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  18. Rick Rowling (812 comments) says:
    Biased question in poll by right wing newspaper delivers predictable outcome.

    Could you explain why you believe the question is biased?

    It’s biased because (s)he disagrees with it!

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  19. lolitasbrother (669 comments) says:

    I do not doubt the result of the next election at all.
    But I do have concern when the Government calls surplus when we are borrowing at epic proportions.
    Google up say ‘ NZ Govt debt’ , or ‘Public debt rises by $NZ27 million a day’.
    Thats $7 every day for each of us, $20 if you are a taxpayer, every day, and $7000 a year , pay here

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  20. Jim (397 comments) says:

    I’d be in the 21.3% that opted for spending cuts.

    The title of this post is a little misleading though. The figures were rather evenly tied:

    21% increase spending
    50.6% keep the same
    21.3% cut spending

    and 7% no fucking clue

    So you could equally say “72% against big spending cuts”

    :p

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  21. hj (6,918 comments) says:

    What about spending on infrastructure to subside the development industry (population increase is government policy)?

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  22. weizguy (118 comments) says:

    I don’t believe for a second that you think the people polled have any idea of what current spending levels are. People have been sold a narrative and they’re parroting it.

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  23. Weihana (4,496 comments) says:

    Martin Gibson (214 comments) says:
    May 15th, 2014 at 10:49 am

    Astonishing that 78% of respondents though that the current 42% of GDP or more should be government spending! 25% would be better, en route to 20%.

    It is not astonishing at all. The vast majority of tax dollars are spent on things the public genuinely and legitimately values: education, health, superannuation, social safety net, infrastructure, etc. It would be astonishing if 78% of the population was libertarian and thought the government shouldn’t be involved in those areas. If you are genuinely astonished (rather than just expressing your own preferences) then you must not have much experience with the attitudes of your average person.

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  24. Weihana (4,496 comments) says:

    lolitasbrother (381 comments) says:
    May 15th, 2014 at 11:03 am
    I do not doubt the result of the next election at all.
    But I do have concern when the Government calls surplus when we are borrowing at epic proportions.
    Google up say ‘ NZ Govt debt’ , or ‘Public debt rises by $NZ27 million a day’.
    Thats $7 every day for each of us, $20 if you are a taxpayer, every day, and $7000 a year , pay here

    A budget is a forecast. The forecast is that we will achieve a surplus. When that is achieved we stop borrowing.

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