Dyson goes electorate only

May 20th, 2014 at 11:00 am by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

, ’s longest-serving Christchurch MP, has decided not to take a place on the party’s list.

Labour general-secretary Tim Barnett confirmed Dyson, who holds the Port Hills electorate, had told the party she was withdrawing from the list selection process.

Dyson has dropped down the Labour Party rankings in a series of reshuffles, from No 5 under former leader Phil Goff in 2011, to recently being demoted by David Cunliffe to 28 (out of 34), behind the likes of Kelvin Davis.

Davis is not yet even an MP but will return to the Capital when Shane Jones leaves Parliament.

Barnett said it was “not unusual” for MPs not to chase list placings.

As the MP for Christchurch Central between 1996 and 2008, Barnett never had a list placing. Former MP Stuart Nash has also announced he will not seek a list placing as he pursues the Napier electorate.

Dyson’s move was announced at a regional list selection meeting in Christchurch on Sunday, which Barnett said was “relaxed”. He believed the move was tactical, with Port Hills always a tightly contested seat.

“It’s not unusual for somebody in a seat which is going to be a pretty tight, hard race to focus entirely on being an electorate candidate,” Barnett said.

National doesn’t allow electorate candidates to not be on the party list, as doing so can mean they campaign only for the electorate vote – and don’t have any incentive to campaign for the more important party vote.

Dyson not standing for the list (unusual for a former party president) indicates she is seriously worried she will lose , as it has got more marginal with boundary changes.

A candidate who doesn’t have a list place to rely on, can sometimes pick up extra votes by stressing that their opponent will be in Parliament regardless, but the only way to retain them is to give them your electorate vote.

So Dyson going list electorate only indicates she thinks she will need every single vote. It will be a seat to watch – depending on who National selects.

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25 Responses to “Dyson goes electorate only”

  1. Rich Prick (1,705 comments) says:

    She’s probably figured out that at #28 on Labour’s list, she’s toast.

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  2. RRM (9,932 comments) says:

    DPF:

    A candidate who doesn’t have a list place to rely on, can sometimes pick up extra votes by stressing that their opponent will be in Parliament regardless, but the only way to retain them is to give them your electorate vote.

    So Dyson going list only indicates she thinks she will need every single vote. It will be a seat to watch – depending on who National selects.

    As theories go, that sounds….. elaborate!

    If you were a labour mp worried about losing your electorate, wouldn’t you want a nice list placing to fall back on?

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  3. tvb (4,430 comments) says:

    I am not sure what this achieves. She must be under some sort of pressure from the party. But opening up a list spot achieves little if she wins the seat.

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  4. Pete George (23,591 comments) says:

    This looks a bit like trying to avoid a bit of embarrassment at being lowered down the list, but if this is the case it suggests a lower list position is at risk of being too low to get her in.

    Or she could just be getting jaded and is prepared to let the electorate decide her future.

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  5. Manolo (13,828 comments) says:

    Give that woman a driver, just in case. :-)

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  6. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (890 comments) says:

    Me thinks aunt Dyson will win Port Hills easily…….so moving on….

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  7. David Garrett (7,311 comments) says:

    RRM: I tend to agree..

    Dyson…the nastiest woman in Parliament…the stupid bitch once changed her vote on a conscience issue because I had indicated I would be voting with her…(True story…)

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  8. geoff3012 (75 comments) says:

    RRM (9,109 comments) says:
    May 20th, 2014 at 11:15 am
    DPF:

    A candidate who doesn’t have a list place to rely on, can sometimes pick up extra votes by stressing that their opponent will be in Parliament regardless, but the only way to retain them is to give them your electorate vote.

    So Dyson going list only indicates she thinks she will need every single vote. It will be a seat to watch – depending on who National selects.

    As theories go, that sounds….. elaborate!

    If you were a labour mp worried about losing your electorate, wouldn’t you want a nice list placing to fall back on?

    Probably told she was going to be 123rd on list

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  9. Auberon (873 comments) says:

    Yes, it will be interesting to see if she does “a Cosgrove.” Despite having a list place at the last election, he was so aware of how toxic Labour’s brand had become – and so full of his own hubris at the belief he was some sort of god to the people of Waimakariri – that you needed a magnifying glass to see Labour’s logo on his billboards.

    Fat lot of good it did him though. Turns out the people of Waimakariri think he’s a tit.

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  10. alloytoo (544 comments) says:

    This looks to be the first Labour electorate MP to go home and batten down the hatches. Stuff the party vote, she wants to guilt the electorate to returning her.

    More to come?

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  11. Fentex (986 comments) says:

    Dyson not standing for the list (unusual for a former party president) indicates she is seriously worried she will lose Banks Peninsula, as it has got more marginal with boundary changes.

    I don’t find that theory convincing. And even if true it’s a credit to her character suggesting she is more concerned with winning support than backstopping her employment.

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  12. David Garrett (7,311 comments) says:

    I think I’d have to crack a bottle of Pol Roger if both Dyson AND Cosgrove lost their seats…odious little man…

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  13. wally (65 comments) says:

    A few years ago my daughter was working in a restaurant where Dyson and her Labour Party team (about 70 people were there) had their Xmas function. They treated the staff like crap ( so much for respect for the workers) and left a total of about $4 in tips. Turned my daughter (then 19) into a lifelong National voter!

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  14. Manolo (13,828 comments) says:

    Let me know D.G and I shall add a bottle of Taittinger myself to celebrate the occasion!

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  15. MT_Tinman (3,202 comments) says:

    Probably told she was going to be 123rd on list

    I’d suggest no. 10 on the list will be in jeopardy.

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  16. Auberon (873 comments) says:

    And me DG, I’d bring a magnum of Pol Roger to that gathering.

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  17. B A W (100 comments) says:

    This tells us things are hopeless in Labour. With low poll numbers the MPs are now out to save their own skin, and let the party worry about the overall election result.

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  18. David Garrett (7,311 comments) says:

    Shit, this “Bye bye Ruth and the carpet inspector” idea is growing!! We might have to hire a restaurant…You are all very welcome to join me at the Kaukapakapa pub…It’s a Free House and the food is good…

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  19. Fentex (986 comments) says:

    left a total of about $4 in tips

    The implication being that tips are a good thing. Putting aside the details of any particular instance, and the joy at benefitting from a handsome tip, as a standardised practice they are a bad idea for workers.

    As people only have as much leverage in financial negotiation as they have wealth anything that represents a fall-back for the weaker negotiator is an enemy to their success. Thus tips represent a weakness in the theoretical free negotiation of services between staff and employer and as an uncertain quantity must be discounted by the employer.

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  20. edhunter (547 comments) says:

    Could this not just be another way to implement the man ban? Ruth retains her seat, another woman takes her place on the list possibly in a higher position & voila you’ve got two in parliament for the price of one.

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  21. GPT1 (2,122 comments) says:

    The other reason National severely limits list only candidates is to prevent fly by night wannabe MPs swanning in at the last minute and taking up a list space ahead of someone doing the hard yards in an unwinnable electorate.

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  22. johnwellingtonwells (137 comments) says:

    Don’t worry, Lynn already has a good job lined up for her if she loses. We all know that Dyson’s are renowned for their sucking power. Is she “bagless”

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  23. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    What is Dyson going to do, leech of ratepayers or unionists? Sure as hell falls in the unemployable category. Maybe she could get a job wine tasting, that would be her forte.

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  24. Shazzadude (529 comments) says:

    The boundary changes to Port Hills were probably more significant there than to any other existing electorate, gaining almost the entire Banks Peninsula in the redistribution. On 2011 results, National have an effective majority in the seat of around 2000 votes. I think Ruth Dyson probably claws back some of that through her own local profile, and I fully expect a swing against the government in Christchurch so I give the edge to Dyson, but she has every reason to sweat this one out.

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  25. Shazzadude (529 comments) says:

    “As theories go, that sounds….. elaborate!

    If you were a labour mp worried about losing your electorate, wouldn’t you want a nice list placing to fall back on?”

    It worked wonders for Damien O’Connor.

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