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It was bewildering to hear “Tojo” Cunliffe once again getting the final word on TVNZ last night, mouthing off how he would be questionning the US president on the use of drones knocking off terrorists, especially ones holding NZ papers. Well “Tojo”, for starters:
(a) US president, of whatever political persuasion, would not give an arsehole such as you the time of day.
(b) Who cares about the annihilation of terrorists, and if they hold NZ papers, so what?
(c) Why become concerned about US drones, when you sanction atrocities committed by Japanese in World War II?
About time you started acting like a man, forgetting the rainbow room, McCarten, and the terrorist-protecting Manning . . . you are becoming a real loser! If it were not for your mate Little, controlling the media unions, you would be on about 2.5%.
Most decent thinking people in this country would like to see drones take out many more of these dangerous murderous Muslim terrorists.
I watched Campbell and was unimpressed by his attempts to be the Woodward and Bernstein of Aotearoa ,formerly New Zealand.
What encouraged me about the leftist smear attempt was that this government is finally doing something to correct the mistakes of the looney feminist Labour past and improve our ties with our traditional allies and the countries we share our closest interests with, Amen.
Martin, hashtags are what some people create when they’re really really worked up about something.
For example; #Bringbackourgirls. It’s a nice way of showing concern without actually risking anything, (or achieving anything for that matter), and it’s so easy.
You could promote stuff like #DPFisaliar, or, #Johnkeytellsfibs, or whatever you think will “create awareness” of your pet issue.
Or you could abuse people I suppose for not sharing your concern….
Shane Jones will deliver his valedictory to Parliament this afternoon. He made an interesting comment on Breakfast this morning, lamenting David Shearer’s removal from the role of Labour leader. He reckoned that the public would have warmed to Shearer the more they got to know him.
Given the role that David Cunliffe played in white-anting David Shearer, here’s hoping that Jones, who promised that his speech would have “personality” fires a few parting shots at Cunliffe as he makes his final statement as an MP.
FYI Martin, I expect they did talk about him at the meeting, but I don’t expect the PM to compromise his position by providing information to screaming lefties who are not really interested in the subject at hand, but are rather focused on political point scoring.
Sometimes it’s called realpolitik, and it’s what happens in the real world Martin, which appears to be a different world to the one you inhabit.
So you thus accept the PM is lying to the public.
The PM himself said not long ago on TV that once the public considers you have lied to them you are over.
I agree you cant have anyone as a PM you dont believe.
Does Cunliffe really think that if he was Prime Minister of New Zealand that O’bama will even acknowledge him let alone talk confidentially with him.
Cunners – Stop Dreaming. Learn to play golf well first – Oh sorry, I forgot you have single figure handicap (besides your colleagues).
whats ct mob?
DPF didnt pick up the main point of it thats why im asking this question i wrote at the beginning, so there is some balance in it.
You could watch it online and judge for yourself and then answer my question.
Id be interested in your response as no one else has being able to answer it
So you obviously dont mind being lied too
What do you think about DPF not picking up on the main point of the story?
I myself a disappointed as i like accurate assessments not partisan interpretations
Poor Martin loves CCTV cameras, tax and regulation on everything mandatory instructions on how to live. Every breathing moment the State lies but thats ok for Martin. Or are you claiming to be a libertarian. Lol. You got what you really wanted.
The narrative provided by DPF suggested that it was written by a nine year old, with no understanding of how the real world functions.
Which is what he does to anything he doesn’t agree with. Fairly typical human response/literary/debating effect. Trivialise and reframe to make it sound stupid. Just our modern world, I guess, we need instant yes/no agree/disagree answers for everything and we need it now
No i just dont want to be lied to by the PM, my life and my kids lives are greatly influenced by what goes on in govt as yours a are too and a liar isnt allowed to hold that position of trust. Key said so himself
What’s the difference between John Key and a Predator Drone? Trick question, there is no difference, both are controlled by Washington. Last nights astonishing revelations on Campbell Live prove how true that joke really is.
This country owe John Campbell and the Campbell Live team a standing ovation for the courage they have shown in pursuing this story. This is true journalism at its finest, not the National Party broadcast that is Seven Sharp. John and Campbell Live are revealing the true story of Power that John Key is desperate to hide.
There was once a time NZ would stand as one in disgust at this spineless subservience to America, we need to remind ourselves that we are not Obama’s South Pacific golf caddy and need that reminder this election.
Campbell Live is in the middle of showing a special on the GCSB. It is presenting information never before made public. It includes the US head of intelligence coming to NZ just before Key set up Ian Fletcher for the head of GCSB job.
Campbell is showing has shown how there was a major shift going on in NZ and 5 Eyes’ approach to intelligence.
Ok enjoy your life being lied too, seems you only care about people agreeing with you not the truth, i wouldnt want a direct answer from someone who doesnt care about being lied too.
Good day to you
Ps im not fussed about spelling but i do find it ironic when someone accuses me of being stupid but makes basic mistakes and also doesnt answer the question.
@ kowtow (6,917 comments) says:
May 21st, 2014 at 8:54 am
Yes, he is here to do a job, and that is to represent the people of New Zealand, regardless of race, sex, class. age or creed.
He is not there to represent the interests of any one group over another and at all times must take the principles that guide this nation into account – especially the right to freedom. He is not there to promote or advance the interests of any other nation unless that is what the people of New Zealand want him to do.
Ok, well I believe Key. Why should he know. Why should Key even care. Dot con is just not that important. He wants to be, being the massive narcissist he is, but alas he isn’t. He’ll be gone soon anyway.
Engdahl’s newest book is reviewed below. Titled “Full Strectrum Dominance: Totalitarian Democracy in the New World Order,” it discusses America’s grand strategy, first revealed in the 1998 US Space Command document – Vision for 2020. Later released in 2000 as DOD Joint Vision 2020, it called for “full spectrum dominance” over all land, surface and sub-surface sea, air, space, electromagnetic spectrum and information systems with enough overwhelming power to fight and win global wars against any adversary, including with nuclear weapons preemptively.
Other means as well, including propaganda, NGOs and Color Revolutions for regime change, expanding NATO eastward, and “a vast array of psychological and economic warfare techniques” as part of a “Revolution in Military Affairs” discussed below.
@ Colville (1,835 comments) says:
May 21st, 2014 at 8:59 am
So you oppose the right to freedom of speech then? Or do you just believe that your opinion, and those that think like you are the only people that are entitled to voice them? Do have any idea how those sorts of beliefs have affected the history of humankind?
@ lilman (738 comments) says:
May 21st, 2014 at 8:59 am
“Your stupid ….. (what)?”
Can I suggest that when you call someone stupid, you make sure you do it in a manner that is perfect, otherwise people might thing YOU’RE stupid. If nothing else, it really takes the punch out of your insult.
I thought it was a NZ Police raid because the FBI wanted to gather information. Police raids go on most days, and besides, aren’t Ministers supposed to stay out of Police operational matters?
It’s easier to tell the truth if you don’t actually know something, when you say you don’t know something.
Nutbar can post whatever he likes as far as I am concerned I would just far rather he was limited to , say, once every 10 minutes so he has to concentrate his splatter into larger less frequent outpourings so that the vomit is easier for me to sidestep.
@ Paulus (2,368 comments) says:
May 21st, 2014 at 8:37 am
Do you seriously believe that Obama only sees Key because he is SO nice?
Key is important to Obama only because he is an ally and provides another name to the list of countries prepared to stand by the States. His relationship with Key has developed simply because at this particular stage in USA’s fight for supremacy over their enemies, they need New Zealand’s cooperation – it wouldn’t matter who the PM was, they would still be subjected to that same level of ‘caring’.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Key didn’t learn about the Dotcom raid until the last minute. Just because the fat one seems to have made his way into the NZ psyche now doesn’t mean that he was actually terribly important at that time, i.e. prior to the raids. The Police don’t normally brief the P.M. on every raid they conduct, nor would the GCSB on every bit of surveillance they are carrying out. Dotcom had no real political significance, nor any social significance ( compared to, say, the Urewera raids)
Annette King claimed the Government had no knowledge of the Urewera raids until the night before they happened, and it would have been obvious to Police that there would be huge political fallout from those because they touched on highly contentious social issues such as Tino Rangatiratanga for Te Urewera, the arrest of noisy social activists and the prospect of terrorism charges.
If the Police didn’t tell the PM about Dotcom, it says more about what a relatively insignificant person Dotcom was considered to be. Of course, in Dotcom’s alternative universe, he is unable to accept that he is not the man. The almost fawning adulation he has received here since the raids has done nothing to give him a reality check. Perhaps that will only occur when he gets to a country where rich fat criminals are a dime a dozen. Roll on the extradition.
“Do you seriously believe that Obama only sees Key because he is SO nice?”
Judith, I have to say there probably is some truth to that. Obama is noted for refusing to have golf games with Political colleagues. He just doesn’t do it, quite unlike most who use golf for business. He’s been chastised for it as some see it as a great opportunity for him to bond with some of his detractors.
Like it or not but Key really is respected and liked by quite a number of world leaders. We are such a little and insignificant country yet Key has spent far more time with Obama and the Chinese leaders than almost any other leader in the world.
I don’t think that’s really because NZ is soooo powerful.
David Fisher, journalist and author of a book on Dotcom, reported on court yesterday:
In questioning over Mr Dotcom’s sumptuous 2010 New Year’s Eve fireworks display, Mr Dotcom offered without prompting the claim that Banks had told the PM of the display. “He wanted him to come and watch it,” he said. “Is that what you call a nuke?” asked Mr Jones.
The Eviscerated replied: “That was one of those things. There are others.”
The obvious implication is that Banks identified Dotcom to Key, not sure why Banks would smile in relation to that.
However it’s quite possible Banks invited Key to the fireworks without revealing who the donor was. There was in fact two fireworks displays. And Dotcom was also known as Schmizt then.
Auckland saw one of the awesome fireworks display when this time fireworks were simultaneously launched from Skycity Tower and Auckland Harbour. Master pyrotechnician Martin van Tiel set up the Sky Tower display as well as one which operated from two barges in the Waitemata Harbour. Thanks to jet-setting German businessman with a chequered past of computer hacking and insider trading laid on a spectacular New Year’s fireworks display for Aucklanders. Kim Schmitz, who calls himself Kim Dotcom,
Ugly, all extradition arrests are carried out at the request of foreign agencies, the FBI is but one of them. Likewise, the enforcement of overseas restraining orders such as were used to seize Dotcom’s assets is always through a Government to Government request, but these are not matters with which the executive are involved. Just because something is done through a government agency doesn’t mean that it’s a political decision. The separation of powers between the judiciary and the government, and the well-recognised convention that politicians are not involved with policing decisions are just two examples.
These types of operations happen, not all the time, but they are not exceptional. That is why I very much doubt that Key would have been told. It’s fun to think there is a great big conspiracy going on out there, but the reality is most pollies and cops haven’t the time or energy to be bothered interfering in each others business.
OK. So G-D is a Jewish thing allowing them to erase or dispose of the writing without showing disrespect to God, and others observe the custom of substituting the word “God” with G-d in English, based on the traditional practice in Jewish law, to gove God’s Hebrew name a high degree of respect and reverence. Likewise, G!D. Despite the Ugly Truth it may be otherwise.
I am old but can still learn something new.
But now explain the fucking hypocrisy of writing “f**ked” or variations of it.
Ugly, all extradition arrests are carried out at the request of foreign agencies, the FBI is but one of them.
This extradition arrest was different because of the recent political appointment of Fletcher by Key and Fletcher taking time off from his Queensland job in the days leading up to the commencement of the Dotcom raid.
Here’s the relevant part of the timeline from the Standard:
12 December 2011: PM recorded his regular video journal in Parliament office. New cabinet had been sworn in. Fletcher had been expected to attend a major meeting in Aussie on this day, but sent an apology. From 12-16 December Fletcher took recreation leave from his Queensland employer. Fletcher was in NZ that week, using NZ government funding for the trip.
Key also met with the GCSB on 12 December.
14 December 2011: Grant Wormald, police officer in charge of Dotcom case, met with GCSB.
16 December 2011: GCSB’s “illegal surveillance” of Kim Dotcom began.
12-16 December: Fletcher met Key, Simon Murdoch (Acting GCSB Chief), Hugh Wolfenson (oversaw spying on Kim Dotcom)
The separation of powers between the judiciary and the government, and the well-recognised convention that politicians are not involved with policing decisions are just two examples.
The separation of powers is a convenient fiction, since the agents of the executive, the judiciary, and the legislature all swear (or affirm) allegiance to the head of state, and in NZ the executive and the legislature are comprised of the same people.
Iranian authorities arrested on Monday at least six people who starred in a viral YouTube video that shows them dancing to Pharrell Williams’ “Happy,” according to multiple reports.
In the video, three men and three women without hijabs are seen dancing to the hit song in an apartment and on a Tehran building rooftop. It went viral in the past few weeks, attracting nearly 200,000 views on YouTube, according to a Facebook post published by the video’s art director, Reihane Taravati. No official explanation has been given for the arrests yet, though some believe the content runs afoul of Iranian law.
Negar Mortazavi, an Iranian freelance journalist based in Washington, D.C., told Mashable that she wasn’t surprised the six people were arrested. When Mortazavi first saw the video, she thought it was dangerous to upload it online, considering its content. “Not wearing hijabs and dancing, boys and girls together — that’s three big red flags,” she said.
That Logie thing from Greens would be better suited to haunting houses, or lead in a horror show; sure as hell is not on a full tank of gas. No wonder it went on about English child production, Logie would have hell of a job finding a sire. Envy once again by the left.
The most expensive housing market in North America is not where you’d think. It’s not New York City or Orange County, California, but Vancouver, British Columbia. Now, Vancouver is a beautiful city—a thriving deep-water port, a popular site for TV and movie shoots. By all accounts, it is a wonderful place to live. But nothing about its economy explains why—in a city where the median income is only around seventy grand—single-family houses now sell for close to a million dollars apiece and ordinary condos go for five or six hundred thousand dollars. “If you look at per-capita incomes, we look like Reno or Nashville,” Andy Yan, an urban planner at the Vancouver-based firm Bing Thom Architects, told me. “But our housing prices easily compete with San Francisco’s.”
When price-to-income or price-to-rent ratios get out of whack, it’s often a sign of a housing bubble. But the story in Vancouver is more interesting. Almost by chance, the city has found itself at the heart of one of the biggest trends of the past two decades—the rise of a truly global market in real estate.
The globalization of real estate upends some of our basic assumptions about housing prices. We expect them to reflect local fundamentals—above all, how much people earn. In a truly global market, that may not be the case. If there are enough rich people in China who want property in Vancouver, prices can float out of reach of the people who actually live and work there. So just because prices look out of whack doesn’t necessarily mean there’s a bubble. Instead, wealthy foreigners are rationally overpaying, in order to protect themselves against risk at home. And the possibility of losing a little money if prices subside won’t deter them. Yan says, “If the choice is between losing ten to twenty per cent in Vancouver versus potentially losing a hundred per cent in Beijing or Tehran, then people are still going to be buying in Vancouver.”
The challenge for Vancouver and cities like it is that foreign investment isn’t an unalloyed good. It’s great for existing homeowners, who see the value of their homes rise, and for the city’s tax revenues. But it also makes owning a home impossible for much of the city’s population. And the tendency of foreign buyers not to inhabit investment properties raises the spectre of what Yan has called “zombie neighborhoods.” A recent study he did found that a quarter of the condos in a luxury neighborhood called Coal Harbour were vacant on census day.
lol, My spell check hasn’t been used in about 4 months,not bad effort for one who left school at 15.
Leaving school at 15 has different shades of meaning, assumption and stigma depending on if the person is a member of generation A, B or C. For older members of current Gen C – most finished their education around 15 – therefore no stigma.
Judith @9:09am – I think my attitude to commenter typos is softening over time. Is it a sign that the commenter is stupid, or are they simply time poor and crack out the comments without wanting to check them endlessly ? I’ve noticed with my own comments that typing is inaccurate, editing and correcting is an endless black hole of effort – and I can well imagine those who knowingly sacrifice accuracy for output or otherwise have their reasons for sloppy shoddy work unrelated to intellectual ability.
I mean – I assume that most commenters appreciate the your / you’re distinction. Far be it from me to understand – but they are comfortable conveying their thoughts without the requisite additional taxing effort of grammatical perfection.
Oh dear, Judith Collins in hot water again according to TV3. This time “illegally ” using a gun at the ESR Forensics gun range according Richard Lincoln president of the National Shooters Association, ,
Ten or a thousand made no difference – could’ve gone out with a whole lot more style and really gone to town – give some entertainment to us dribbling peons in the cheap seats dammit !! Push the boat out next time !!
DPF has been known very rarely to delete the odd post lrc. He has done it to one of mine that was exceedingly obscene directed towards a very filthy homo hating scum sucker.
If you blowout like that it wouldn’t stay up for others entertainment.
Just looked at whaleoil comment rules – makes this place look like the wild west. Eg – no curse words – well fuck me sideways !!
EDIT: I don’t look at the whaleoil site. I don’t know why. I don’t like the name – ‘whaleoil’ WTF ? I don’t like the layout of it. And you’re not allowed to edit your posts except for grammar and spelling. Cool.
You really have to wonder about minus
What sort of brain dead moron spends their time coming here night after night just to give us down ticks ?
It would be good to have a track back on the ticks just once to see who the retarded fucknuckle is.
One day lrc I will find some more whale spew
I remember finding a large chunk when I was a kid. I didn’t know what the hell it was and the smell and funny white waxey texture stuck in my mind
I’m watching Back Benches – Wallace Chapman asks a fucking ‘hard-up’ student about his supermarket spend . . .
‘I’m a student – so $50.’
Poor little fuckwit – and yet – there he stands – yep, that’s right – with a fucking half downed beer handle. Did he buy it himself ? How many drinks is he having tonight ? How much is that fucking costing ? These poor students living in poverty socialising at fucking Back Benches with a drink in their hand. That’s real life for you. People just talk a lot of total shit.
To be fair he didn’t whine about being poor or hard done by. I’m still struggling to grasp how a person would be in a pub if they can only afford to spend $50 a week at the supermarket ?
Box of weetbix, 2 x 5pack of 2 minute noodles, few cans of bake beans, loaf of bread, a dozen eggs, a can of lynx supplemented with a couple of nights of McD’s or KFC (not included in your supermarket budget) and voila $50.00 pw at the supermarket. Not saying it’s healthy and not devoid of meat but I’m pretty sure beer covers every food group.
yeah yeah. Even with an income of $800 – one beer at a pub is 1% of income. It buys social time and surroundings but still. 2% of disposable income. On a full time low wage – holy hell – one $8 drink is roughly 5% of disposable income.
When is the evil and left-wing piece of shit Campbell going to get his beans? For years this snivelling little effeminate creep has been running a pro-Labour campaign at the expense of advertisers. Our company stopped using anything related to Mazda a while ago, and I implore everyone on this thread to take similar action. Anyone who supports this gutless little mongrel is sick in the head. I was hoping Brian Tamaki would give him a whack when the weasel was harrassing him, some time ago; personally I would have offered to fund his legal expenses if he had. Why is it that these scumbags can start all sorts of bullshit to try and gain traction for the likes of the obese German slug, a convicted felon, and financier of the left (does not pay his suppliers though). Come on Kiwis, we don’t need, nor want the likes of this Campbell arsehole polluting the airwaves.
Reading between the lines, one of the family is responsible for shooting the deceased, the cops haven’t figured out which one yet, so they charge father and son with firearm offences in the meantime, and the judge grants bail!