The Robson complaint

May 1st, 2014 at 7:00 am by David Farrar

3 News reports:

Former cabinet minister is under police investigation following a complaint regarding a Thai masseuse who was allegedly blackmailed into working in the sex trade.

The serious allegations were made by adviser and former Minister .

Mr Delamere says the former Alliance MP and Corrections and Courts Minister played a part in bringing a Thai woman to New Zealand to work as a masseuse based at the Stamford Plaza in Auckland.

However, the woman has complained to Immigration New Zealand after allegedly being forced to work at another premises in Parnell owned by the same company which ran the massage service at the hotel. She was allegedly blackmailed into offering sexual services under the threat of being deported.

Mr Delamere says he laid the complaint against the owners of the massage centre and asked police to investigate Mr Robson’s and Immigration NZ’s role in bringing the woman to New Zealand.

I don’t think this issue has anything to do with Matt Robson, and including him in the complaint to the Police seems to be a publicity stunt.

Unless there is evidence that Robson had anything to do with the alleged blackmail (and it seems there is none), then his role in helping her migrate is not material to what allegedly occurred. I think the inclusion of him in a public complaint is not in good faith.

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25 Responses to “The Robson complaint”

  1. Nostalgia-NZ (5,202 comments) says:

    Agreed.

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  2. All_on_Red (1,582 comments) says:

    No happy ending for any one then.

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  3. alex Masterley (1,517 comments) says:

    This is a tiff between Delamare and Robson being played out in public.
    Complete waste of time

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  4. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    Delamare would know all about being a dodgy motherfucker.

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  5. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Absolutely agree – no need for his name to be included in the complaint – however, also think it is time we had a better ‘code of conduct’ for our MP’s, or is that the medias handling of them? Personal tiffs should remain private – I realise this is an election year, and the scoring of points may impress the small minded who fail to capture the bigger picture – but it is a shocking example for our ministers to be dragged through the mud in this way. As for the media – well what can one say – the term ‘shirt stirrers’ doesn’t come close to doing them justice.

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  6. peterwn (3,271 comments) says:

    Tuariki tried a similar stunt several years ago – suing immigration officials and Crown lawyers for blackmail among other things. He also tried to prosecute them under S107 of the Crimes Act for contravening the law. He got these prosecutions past the first hurdle but they seemed to have fizzled out. Immigration wanted financial information from some residents to investigate irregularities concerning their required investment in NZ and threatened them with cancellation of residency if they did not comply. Tuariki considered this abusive, amounted to blackmail and in contravention of Immigration law.

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  7. All_on_Red (1,582 comments) says:

    PM
    One of the rare occasions we agree.

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  8. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    I realise this is an election year, and the scoring of points may impress the small minded who fail to capture the bigger picture – but it is a shocking example for our ministers to be dragged through the mud in this way.

    What has a ‘spat’ between Matt Robson (who left Parliament in 2005) and Tuariki Delamere (who left in 1999) got to do with election year 2014?

    Look! Over there!

    Pffttt….

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  9. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Elaycee (4,100 comments) says:
    May 1st, 2014 at 7:55 am

    The fact that the matter is complained about, being investigated and in our media, in this an election year!

    I’m sure you are intelligent enough to realise that it has NOTHING to do with the election because they are no longer candidates, but not everyone is that astute – some continue, for example, to attribute faults with the current Labour party, to Helen Clark, and so on. Current or ex, the results are the same and the parties receive bad press.

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  10. flipper (4,060 comments) says:

    Well, well, well….

    On another but similar matter, it seems that O’Rourke from PetersParty2 is , well prima facie, in a bit of strife over whether he is employing his “partner” in his “Electorate” office. The Herald seems to have been tipped on the complaint laid with Speaker Carter and has done its own work.

    It would be amusing if the 69 year old pensioner from St Marys Bay were to lose another dummy, would it not ????

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  11. Kea (12,824 comments) says:

    Labour made prostitution legal work.

    Just saying.

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  12. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    Labour made prostitution legal work.

    They didn’t make extortion legal, though – which is what this is about. Prostitution has nothing to do with it.

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  13. Kea (12,824 comments) says:

    Psycho Milt, no read it again. The extortion is an allegation. The prostitution is an established fact. Labour legalised the prostitution that [may have] led to the extortion.

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  14. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Psycho Milt (2,026 comments) says:
    May 1st, 2014 at 8:40 am

    Prostitution has nothing to do with it.

    No it hasn’t, but I’m sure if the media could find a way to throw a suggestion of it in the mix they would. It is difficult to know what is the actual facts of any of these sorts of things, once our media get hold of it – which is why I no longer subscribe to the Herald (or any other paper for that matter).

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  15. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Kea

    Awww, come on, Men have being selling their best assets for years, what’s wrong with the girls selling their best asset?

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  16. Kea (12,824 comments) says:

    No it hasn’t


    Judith, so you would feel the same way if she had been forced to work as CEO of Telecom, as you would her being forced to sell her cute little Thai arse to dirty old men ?

    You surprise me Judith.

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  17. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Kea (10,789 comments) says:
    May 1st, 2014 at 8:48 am

    Being forced is an entirely different argument – my previous comment was addressing the decision to make prostitution legal (presuming the business women are taking part voluntarily).

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  18. Reid (16,448 comments) says:

    Robson’s one of the few lefties I’ve ever seen who I’ve thought had integrity. He was wrong, but he had integrity.

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  19. Jimbo (43 comments) says:

    Robson is the guy who made a highly distasteful attack on John McCain, ridiculing him for a disability he suffers after undergoing torture at the hands of Viet Cong.

    Robson is the guy who writes nonsense about Cuba and North Korea after his useful idiot tours there.

    He extolled the virtues of the Cuban prison system for goodness sake.

    I don’t know if there’s anything to this story either but let’s not get into the trenches with Matt Robson yet.

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  20. gump (1,647 comments) says:

    @Kea

    “Labour made prostitution legal work.

    ————————————–

    The Prostitution Reform Act specifically prohibits people from inducing or compelling another person to work as a prostitute via improper means.

    It’s a crime that’s punishable by up to 14 years imprisonment.

    http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2003/0028/latest/DLM197866.html

    As an aside, National has had six years to repeal the Act. The fact that they haven’t done so means that they must also support it.

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  21. kowtow (8,468 comments) says:

    Jimbo ,too right. He’s a nasty piece of leftist shit!

    Another thing. Aotearoa can’t be complacent about women being trafficked for the sex trade.

    We’re far too quick to rest on whatever laurels we rest on “We’re better than Oz,race relations ” bollox etc

    Doesn’t mean there isn’t some serious criminality and exploitation going on.Meanwhile the cops think 4 kph over is the most heinous thing on Earth.

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  22. Tuariki (3 comments) says:

    The primary issue is the employer who transferred the complainant from the Auckland Thai Massage spa at Stamford Plaza to the Mantra Thai Massage parlour in Parnell where the complainant alleges she was blackmailed, threatened and forced her to provide sex services to “special regular clients”. The second issue is with the actions of Immigration New Zealand (INZ) as the young lady went to INZ seeking help as an exploited migrant worker.

    INZ publishes documents encouraging exploited migrant workers to come to INZ for help and support. The complainant did this in September last year. She got no help and has been further victimized because INZ declined her visa application on the grounds she admitted to being a sex worker.

    INZ states on their web site “You will not get in trouble if you complain about exploitation at work. Immigration New Zealand, the Labour Inspectorate and the New Zealand Police will help you.”

    Yesterday Paula Bennett and Jo Goodhew stated “It is a basic right that people should feel safe and secure and free of fear, which is too often taken away from people through sexual violence. ….………………..We’re committed to providing the right support for those working with both victims and perpetrators of sexual violence, so that when someone comes to them for help they can provide it.”

    Why would any victim ever go to INZ when they are treated the way the complaint was treated by INZ?

    Matt Robson arranged for the complaint to work at the Auckland Thai Massage in the Stamford Plaza. He was the agent for the owner. This is totally legitimate. And if Mr Robson has no knowledge of the complainant being transferred to the Mantra Thai Massage, which is owned by the same person who owns Auckland Thai Massage, then there is no issue re the involvement of Mr Robson.

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  23. Scott1 (552 comments) says:

    It seems – in the most generous interpretation – pretty naive of Matt to go to Thailand to get a massage therapist, interview them and take them to work in a massage place in NZ considering the size of the industry getting Asian women to come to New Zealand on false pretenses.

    Like Dotcom, yes he can say he was not doing anything illegal, but Dotcom probably won’t get away with it…

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  24. Tuariki (3 comments) says:

    For me, the issue is not about Matt Robson. He is involved, however, because he was the agent who arranged for the complainant to come to NZ. The issue is solely about the actions of INZ doing nothing when the complainant went to INZ for help and reported the forced sexual abuse being perpetrated against her. And worse they now seek to punish her. How many other female migrants have been similarly treated, and therefore abused, by INZ.

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  25. Daigotsu (457 comments) says:

    Matt Robson has always been a dodgy bastard with shady overseas connections, this seems in line with what I would expect from him. Definitely cause to look into it.

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