Transtasman on Winston

May 22nd, 2014 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

Transtasman notes in their latest newsletter:

NZ First leader Winston Peters is known for his expensive suits but he triggered a Savile row of a different nature when he turned on ex-NZ First MP Brendan Horan this week. To say there is bad blood between the two is an insult to leukemia. The loathing runs deeper than the Marianas Trench, as wide as the mouth of the Amazon.

But to do as Peters did, and to describe Horan as “the Jimmy Savile of NZ politics” – and to do so not once but twice in what was clearly a calculated insult – takes it to a whole new level. Savile, the deceased British “celebrity” who sexually preyed on young, often handicapped, girls, is the nuclear option of insults. It all looked a bit desperate. You cannot make such a comment without backing it up with some evidence.

I really hope the media don’t let this drop and they ask Peters when is next turns up to Parliament what he meant by his comments. Was he alleging Horan is a paedophile, and if so what is his proof. If he wasn’t implying that about Horan, then why did he twice refer to him as a Jimmy Saville.

Yet Peters not only failed to front in Parliament the following day, when Horan signalled he would reveal his own deep scandal about NZ First.

It left the rest of the NZ First MPs – who tend to resemble a bunch of ageing Social Creditors with anger management issues at the best of times – making a shambles of trying to use Parliament’s standing orders to block their former colleague.

That bit in bold is gold.

In the end Horan’s revelations Peters was using the leader’s budget for electioneering and campaigning expenses, namely software and staff, proved something of a damp squib. It is still far from clear NZ First is doing anything wrong with its parliamentary funding, although no doubt the party does – like all the others – push it right up to the edge of the rules.

I have to say I don’t see any proof of wrongdoing either, at this stage.

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24 Responses to “Transtasman on Winston”

  1. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    A couple of hours after making the Saville insinuations in Parliament on Tuesday Peters had a scheduled Q & A on Facebook. There was one question that looked suspiciously like a patsy.

    Comment From Andrew
    When you called Brendan Horan the Jimmy Savile of NZ politics, did you mean he has a fondness for cigars, or tracksuits? I’m confused.

    Winston Peters: Take a wild guess.

    http://yournz.org/2014/05/21/winston-peters-q-a/

    A non-committal answer outside Parliamentary privilege but no retracting from the insinuation.

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  2. Pete George (23,559 comments) says:

    Re using the leader’s budget for electioneering and campaigning expense…

    Parliament’s Speaker David Carter has confirmed he is investigating whether NZ First misused taxpayer funding by paying for software used to seek votes and raise cash for the party.

    Former NZ First MP Brendan Horan yesterday claimed claimed NZ First had spent as much as $20,000 in parliamentary funding from Winston Peters’ leader’s budget to develop and operate “taxpayer-funded software for party political purposes such as campaigning and fundraising”.

    He made an complaint to Mr Carter, who early this afternoon confirmed the matter was under investigation.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11259765

    That may or may not get anywhere, but a complaint accepted by the Speaker for investigation must be a win of sorts over a dirty insinuation that has people talking of a new low in Parliament.

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  3. hj (6,995 comments) says:

    Winston needs taking out as National is vulnerale over immigration.
    As Dr Greg Clydsdale writes:

    The housing boom has meant good profits for many New Zealand companies supplying
    materials and building services, but it implies investors would rather invest in their country’s
    homes rather than its businesses (Bollard 2005). The high returns for property has attracted
    finance and reduced the capital available for productive investment (Moody, 2006). The
    consequence is investment is going in to industries with limited capacity to increase per capita
    incomes. For example, real estate and building are domestically bound and do not have the
    market potential of export industries. They also have less opportunity to increase productivity
    through new processes and products. The irony is, as these sectors grow, they have incurred
    skills shortages which in turn has increased demand for skilled immigrants. The Department
    of Statistics ‘Long Term Skill Shortage List’ of 28/3/2006 includes carpenter/joiner, plumber,
    electricians, fitter and turners, fitter welders; all indicative of a nation building its
    construction/property sector.
    There is a danger that a sector of the economy is being augmented that is totally reliant on a
    small domestic economy. Not only do these industries have limited potential for per-capita
    growth but ‘deriving growth via factor inputs such as labour places pressure on infrastructure
    such as transport and land supply, and ultimately have a further negative impact on growth
    (ARC 2005). Finally, as the sector gets larger, it gains in lobbying/political strength and can
    lobby for immigration regardless if it is the best interests of the economy as a whole.
    This
    could be seen in Canada where the development industry has lobbied hard for high sustained
    immigration levels (Ley and Tutchener 2001).

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  4. burt (8,269 comments) says:

    I have to say I don’t see any proof of wrongdoing either, at this stage.

    Right … so other parties like National are doing this too ?

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  5. burt (8,269 comments) says:

    Parliament’s Speaker David Carter has confirmed he is investigating whether NZ First misused taxpayer funding by paying for software used to seek votes and raise cash for the party.

    Oh dear, Winston will be so concerned if he needs to pay back that $20,000 because then he’ll have $178,000 to never bother repaying !

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  6. ShawnLH (4,999 comments) says:

    “Winston needs taking out as National is vulnerale over immigration. ”

    Winston is taking himself out by just being Winston.

    National is not vulnerable over immigration or the polls would show that. They don’t.

    Winston’s old anti-Asian shtick was never anything more than an attempt to gain votes by indulging in racist rhetoric. Once in power with both National and Labour he did nothing at all on the immigration front.

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  7. BeaB (2,123 comments) says:

    George Bernard Shaw said it best:

    “Oozing charm from every pore, he oiled his way across the floor.”

    Sadly the charm is fast wearing off and we are seeing only a sad and unpleasant old wreck. What a waste of talent. Like Shane Jones.

    What is it about these promising Maori men, marked for greatness, yet they fritter away their gifts?

    Perhaps they should stay away from Parliament and seek glory elsewhere.

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  8. Dave Mann (1,218 comments) says:

    Actually (and this is a serious question), why do so many people in the media and the blogosphere revile Winston Peters so much? Is he so much worse than the average politico, really? Just asking…..

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  9. All_on_Red (1,581 comments) says:

    Ah Dave, quite possibly because he compares people to pedophiles like Jimmy Saville! Google Lord McAlpine Twitter and see what happened to those that tried it with him …

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  10. burt (8,269 comments) says:

    Dave

    The media are like kids, like kids being told not to laugh at Granddad wetting his pants and forgetting where he left his slippers.

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  11. unaha-closp (1,164 comments) says:

    Dave, Its the cost of the baubles.

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  12. goldnkiwi (1,303 comments) says:

    Not sure that Savile Row would appreciate the inclusion in the discussion.

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  13. Auberon (873 comments) says:

    DPF, it would seem there’s no equivocation about what Winston was referring to. Soon after question time he took part in an online Q&A session, here: http://nzfirst.org.nz/event/q-and-winston-peters-may-2014

    You’ll see below someone called Andrew asks whether he was referring to two of the three other other things Jimmy Savile was notorious for.

    Comment From Andrew:
    When you called Brendan Horan the Jimmy Savile of NZ politics, did you mean he has a fondness for cigars, or tracksuits? I’m confused.
    Tuesday May 20, 2014 16:37

    Winston Peters:
    Take a wild guess.
    Tuesday May 20, 2014

    The third thing, other than being a paedophile, that Savile was known for was raising money for charity. I’m guessing Winston wasn’t suggesting that’s why Brendan was “the Jimmy Savile of New Zealand politics.”

    So you’re right, the press gallery needs to ensure he puts up or shuts up (apologises to Brendan Horan) on this. And they need to keep doing it until there’s some satisfactory resolution.

    BUGGER, SORRY PETEGEORGE, HAVE ONLY JUST SEEN YOUR COMMENT – can’t hurt to reinforce it though ;-)

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  14. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (888 comments) says:

    “I have to say I don’t see any proof of wrongdoing either, at this stage.” – So while we need to move on, I see this is going to be investigated by the Speaker. He can cut & paste the following lines in an announcement and save time and money.

    “I have the take the word of NZ First that they are using their parliamentary budget for rightful purposes. This matter is closed now”.

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  15. G152 (337 comments) says:

    Keep pressure on him. The MSM should be chasing him (wherever he’s skivved off to) with those questions.
    Don’t take ‘NO’ as an answer…

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  16. Johnboy (16,516 comments) says:

    Horan is doing a wonderful job in parliament, at least until the election.

    Unlike the rest of the turds in the Winston First party he’s got the balls to ridicule the dreadful old arse that the rest of them depend on for the taxpayer provided income none of the cunt’s have earned! :)

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  17. Johnboy (16,516 comments) says:

    MMP is a fuckin dog. It’s put pieces of shit like Norman and Sausage, Winnie and Prinny, Hone and Phoney, Hori and Mori, Dunny and Funny, Banksy and Wanksy, into the highest court in our land.

    As poor old blind and deaf Carter is prone to say they all bring disorder to the house.

    Lets get back to FPP. At least we could arsehole the bastards at the next election and give the other side a go, now we can’t get rid of any of the fuckers! :)

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  18. Johnboy (16,516 comments) says:

    Evening Minus! Glad to see you haven’t passed away yet!!! :)

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  19. RandySavage (222 comments) says:

    I genuinely hate Johnboys posts

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  20. Johnboy (16,516 comments) says:

    Pleased to see that I can still excite passion in a savage breast Randy! :)

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  21. Johnboy (16,516 comments) says:

    Minus is a plus in your case! :)

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  22. Yvette (2,812 comments) says:

    I have to say I don’t see any proof of wrongdoing either, at this stage.

    Some wrongdoing is hinted at in the dog’s breakfast of a response from Peters,
    as outlined by “minus” this morning, and echoed almost word-by-word later on Radio Live by Horan, after midday –

    Speaking from Auckland, Mr Peters said Mr Horan’s claims were lies. While he confirmed NZ First had used parliamentary funding to develop the software, he denied the software was used for party political purposes.

    “It’s used to enable our expansion into sector groups, all sorts of commercial and social interest groups where we’re able to spell out what our policies are and interact with them.”

    “It is run by someone who knows precisely what the law is as to the appropriateness of use and what you can and cannot do.”

    However he also said the software had not been launched yet.
    ____________

    1st sentence Winston denies the software is used for party political purposes.

    2nd sentence Winston describes uses which seem to be party political

    3rd sentence confirms that someone uses it
4th sentence denies it is used at all – “had not been launched yet”

    Kī tōnu taku waka topaki i te tuna, Winston

    The last comment I understand means “There are too many eels in his somethingorother …”

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  23. ldypen (40 comments) says:

    Johnboy “Lets get back to FPP.” agree…MMP is a wreck… tail wagging the dog every time!

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  24. MH (751 comments) says:

    Alas they keep changing the posts; it’s more of thirst past the post now. Another Peterfile allegation that needs resolving.

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