Clark wanting the UN top job

June 16th, 2014 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

walks into the conference room at her New York headquarters clutching the Smoke Free cup that travelled with her from New Zealand.

Five years in the big apple and she still hasn’t got around to getting herself a new tea cup.

Something else hasn’t changed since Clark bid farewell to New Zealand five years ago: she struggles to see a place for herself back home, though she doesn’t rule out returning eventually when the time comes to ”relax” a bit more.

That time is clearly not on her horizon any time soon, which is why there is mounting speculation about Clark’s future at the end of her second term as the United Nation’s third-ranked official, as head of the Development Programme.

Clark is increasingly having to bat away questions about her ambition to succeed UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon in two years’ time. 

She says she will neither rule it in or out – and adds that it is not appropriate for her to talk about the job now, given that Ban Ki-Moon is only midway through his second term.

”He has been a great supporter of mine, which is why I am here today.”

But she says ”there will come a time when that debate is appropriate and member states have got to work out what it is they are looking for in this day and age”.

The UN has never been headed by a woman, for instance – and that should matter, suggests Clark.

“I think the women of the world will be screaming ‘yes’. It will be a year when a woman is making a very strong bid for the US presidency. There’s a woman at the International Monetary Fund, a woman at the Federal Reserve, there’s a lot of last bastions being stormed by women, so the time will come when women say ‘what about the UN?’.”

And of course that woman could be her, by happy coincidence for Helen!

While not impossible, a Clark successful candidacy is very unlikely.  The job tends to go by regional rotation and it is Eastern Europe’s term. The Ukraine situation would make it even more intolerable for them to miss out.

Also there is an unwritten requirement the UN Secretary-General can speak French. Unless Helen has been getting lessons, I don’t think she can.

Also few Secretary-Generals come up through the UN. Most are serving or just retired foreign ministers.

Ban Ki-Moon was the South Korean Foreign Minister when elected. Kofi Annan was a UN bureaucrat, but before him Boutros Boutros-Ghali was Egyptian Foreign Minister when elected. Javier Perez de Cuellar was a career diplomat for Peru. Kurt Walhheim was the Austrian foreign minister. U Thant was a career diplomat for Burma. Dag Hjalmar Agne Carl Hammarskjöld was Deputy Foreign Minister of Sweden and Trygve Halvdan Lie was the Foreign Minister for Norway.

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75 Responses to “Clark wanting the UN top job”

  1. Manolo (13,516 comments) says:

    You can bet your house that Labour Lite would support her nomination on the grounds that she is a NiZilander. Pfftttt.

    Comrade Clark, social engineer supreme, deserves the support of no one.

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  2. unaha-closp (1,137 comments) says:

    Also few Secretary-Generals come up through the UN. Most are serving or just retired foreign ministers.

    Maybe Winston could get the job.

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  3. Fletch (6,142 comments) says:

    We don’t want that harridan as UN head. She did more than enough damage here in NZ.
    The very last thing we need is someone with her ideals (or lack of them) heading the most powerful political body in the world.

    Still, the way the UN is going, they’d probably welcome her.

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  4. David Garrett (6,734 comments) says:

    I am with you Manolo…this dreadful woman did a great deal of probably irreparable harm to this country…she showed herself to be utterly without principle on numerous occasions…but for me strangely enough, the thing I despise her for most is ruthlessly throwing her drivers to the wolves when SHE ordered them to do 100 mph through the Canterbury countryside,… remember how she was supposedly “working in the back, and didn’t notice the speed”…that is an utter lie…

    I have it on good authority that because of that incident, Crown drivers now have a little card they require the poli to sign if they are asked to exceed the speed limit…

    Meanwhile in her private life she continues to lead a grotesque and totally unnecessary fiction…

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  5. dime (9,662 comments) says:

    her biggest crime for me was when she was slagging brash off for having an affair.

    while sitting in the family home next to her “husband”.

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  6. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    She would make an excellent secretary-general. Probably won’t get it, though.

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  7. BeaB (2,081 comments) says:

    Why did her photo have to be displayed THREE times on the Stuff homepage.
    The media still haven’t got over their love affair.

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  8. David Garrett (6,734 comments) says:

    I’ll bite Milky…why would this woman make an “excellent” SG? do tell…

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  9. Yoza (1,671 comments) says:

    The thought of Garrett bursting blood vessels everytime Clark makes pronouncements as Sec.Gen. of the UN does it for me. Go Helen!!

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  10. RightNow (6,839 comments) says:

    Has she stopped beating her wife then?

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  11. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    David, why the very same qualities that made her a good prime minister and good leader of the UNDP.

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  12. David Garrett (6,734 comments) says:

    Yoza:…by God it must be sad to get to your age and find everyone else has grown up and moved on…and the only ones who share your juvenile ideology are 17…

    Milky: Well do tell what made her an “excellent Prime Minister”…for me she was a ruthless social engineer with no discernible principles, and no personal loyalty to those around her…except to the members of the coven she headed..

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  13. dad4justice (7,968 comments) says:

    “I think the women of the world will be screaming ‘yes’.

    Is Helen Clark really a woman?

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  14. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    David
    Wouldn’t you say the true measure of her success has been the way her policies have been endorsed and maintained by the present government?

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  15. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    D4J demonstrating his tenuous connection with reality…

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  16. David Garrett (6,734 comments) says:

    Milky: I have to concede you have a point there…

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  17. kowtow (7,932 comments) says:

    The UN is past its use by date. In fact because of the Soviet Union it was always going to useless.Then we dropped an old friend Nationalist China for the commies,making a bad situation worse.

    An organisation set up to prevent war and the worst of human rights abuses has presided uselessly over the breakdown of formerly peaceful and productive African colonies into failed states and kleptocracies.Literally across the length and breadth of the continent.

    The independence of India into a state of almost continuous war in and between its formerly constituent parts…..Pakistan. east pakistan,kashmir and India itself.Not to mention Indo China.

    The constant state of war between Israel and its neighbours ,in one form or another.The continuing breakup of what was the old ottoman empire across North Africa and through out the Middle east.

    On top of that we see the return of defeated diseases across the unstable Muslim world.

    Mass illegal immigration and deaths from Africa and the Middle east to as far as Australia.

    And what seems to be their top agenda item( other than cushy well paid diplomatic positions for themselves)………global warming,which is n’t even happening!

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  18. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    So, if she could get National and Labour so close together, world peace should be a cinch!

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  19. dime (9,662 comments) says:

    “Wouldn’t you say the true measure of her success has been the way her policies have been endorsed and maintained by the present government?”

    kinda like clarkes govt and rogernomics

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  20. Ross12 (1,267 comments) says:

    Wasn’t there a big report done on the section of the UN that HC heads and it was a very rosy report on how well it functions. I believe the report mostly covered the time before her arrival — so the question has to be , has she improved it or made any difference ? If not then she should have no show of the top job.

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  21. stigie (999 comments) says:

    Where is Peter these days ? Is he still by Helens side…does anyone know ?

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  22. Manolo (13,516 comments) says:

    Nobody knows, but H2 is. :D

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  23. burt (8,023 comments) says:

    David Garrett

    the thing I despise her for most is ruthlessly throwing her drivers to the wolves when SHE ordered them to do 100 mph through the Canterbury countryside

    Hurry hurry or I’ll miss the Rugby !

    That was never said …. Tui add…..

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  24. David Garrett (6,734 comments) says:

    burt: I have no idea whether the “miss the rugby” line was ever used or not…But do you doubt that she ordered her driver to speed? Have you ever sat in the back of a car doing over the old ton and NOT realised it was hooping?

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  25. burt (8,023 comments) says:

    Wouldn’t you say the true measure of her success self serving policies to get elected has been the way her policies have been endorsed and maintained by the present self serving government?”

    There – fixed that for you !

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  26. burt (8,023 comments) says:

    David Garrett

    I didn’t make that line up … I’m agreeing with you …. That’s all I will say in this forum.

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  27. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    What makes DPF think that it’s Eastern Europe’s turn, anyway? Might as well say the Middle East or a Muslim for that matter.

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  28. 2boyz (255 comments) says:

    I don’t like the lady (okay I use the term very loosely). You think life’s getting back to normal and she pops up again.

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  29. Huevon (211 comments) says:

    The idolisation of Helen Clark is a real mystery. I’ve seen people literally ecstatic when talking about her. And yet so many others seem to see through her so easily. Obama has the same effect. So strange.

    Helen as Sec-Gen says more about the UN and the current state of international diplomacy than anything else. I’ll just retreat further into the NZ countryside and redouble efforts to live a quiet life.

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  30. Ross12 (1,267 comments) says:

    My post above should have said “it was Not a very rosy report “

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  31. stigie (999 comments) says:

    @ Manolo
    “Nobody knows, but H2 is”.

    Must be still having great sex then ?

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  32. burt (8,023 comments) says:

    David Garrett

    Oh, I will say one more thing;

    do this google search; hurry hurry or I’ll miss the rugby site:www.kiwiblog.co.nz

    I didn’t make it up – but I might have typed it before ;-)

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  33. RightNow (6,839 comments) says:

    mikenmild (10,004 comments) says:
    June 16th, 2014 at 3:43 pm
    So, if she could get National and Labour so close together, world peace should be a cinch!

    Hard to imagine then, given your premise, that anyone would still vote Labour, given how clearly inept they currently are. If you want Labour policies then you’d have to vote for the party most able to implement them.

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  34. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    That’s one of the obstacles Labour faces to governing again isn’t it: “who nicked all our policies?”
    I suppose, to be completely cynical, if you wanted the preserve Helen Clark’s legacy here, you should vote National as the party most committed to maintaining it.

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  35. edhunter (515 comments) says:

    Regional Rotation of the post? Eastern Europe’s turn?
    Quick google search shows there’s never been an Eastern European (or for that matter North American) Secretary General, I mean there’s only been 8 but the list goes something like UK, Norway, Sweden, Burma, Austria, Peru, Egypt, Ghana, South Korea.
    So maybe there is hope of everyone’s favourite Aunty becoming the Boss & staying away from the country for another 10 years.

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  36. RightNow (6,839 comments) says:

    I’m a centrist, so as long as this government is hated by Redbaiter and The Standard simultaneously then they’re in the right zone.

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  37. RightNow (6,839 comments) says:

    ” if you wanted the preserve Helen Clark’s legacy here, you should vote National as the party most committed to maintaining it.”

    Could you try posting that on a lefty blog just for a laugh….

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  38. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    ed
    UK never provided the Secretary-General. Maybe it’s their turn (or France). I don’t think it will actually be decided by whose ‘turn’ it is.

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  39. James Stephenson (2,088 comments) says:

    UK never provided the Secretary-General. Maybe it’s their turn (or France).

    Yeah, I think you’ll find that the S-G never comes from the permanent members of the Security Council.

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  40. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    From the ever helpful Wikipedia:
    ‘While the appointment and approval process of the Secretary-General is outlined in the UN Charter, specific guidelines have emerged regarding the term limits and selection process. These include a limit to two five-year terms, regional (continental) rotation of the appointee’s national origin, and the appointee may not be a citizen of any of the Security Council’s five permanent members.’
    What continent is NZ part of?

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  41. PhilP (159 comments) says:

    @ stigie
    “Where is Peter these days ? Is he still by Helens side…does anyone know ?”

    Wasn’t there a problem in the States where a RNZAF plane was dispatched to pick someone up?
    Does anyone know more?

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  42. beautox (434 comments) says:

    I bet she fucking loves it. All that tax free money, huge expense account, and people treating her like she was actually important not a lowlife scumbag that should be rotting in jail. But at least she’s not stinking up NZ any more. Can’t we offload her on the Aussies or something?

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  43. alwyn (400 comments) says:

    mikenmild @ 4.40pm

    The ever helpful Wikipedia also tells me that New Zealand is part of the “Western Europe and other” group.

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  44. edhunter (515 comments) says:

    Fair enough Gladwyn Jebb was only acting SG until the first SG was elected.

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  45. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    Holy cow, DPF is right. It is the turn of the East European group. Except that they’ve never had a turn and the regional rotation has not been strictly adhered to.

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  46. stigie (999 comments) says:

    @PhilP
    “Wasn’t there a problem in the States where a RNZAF plane was dispatched to pick someone up?”

    Did hear a whisper some time back that a plane was sent to pick Peter up because of something apparently going down.
    Maybe just a rumour perhaps !~

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  47. Tautaioleua (291 comments) says:

    Helen Clark’s politics to one side, her success would boost New Zealand’s profile in the international community. The current UN Secretary General has put South Korea on the map as far as international relations is concerned. South Korean diplomats play the card of “oh, we can get the ear of the UN Secretary General” and this can work wonders in board rooms on the other side of the world.

    Imagine that for our own diplomats? influence like that can’t be bought. Helen Clark, as Administrator of the UNDP, is already making huge strides for New Zealand’s image in remote areas of Asia, Africa, and Latin America (she’s frequently introduced as former New Zealand prime minister).

    I may not agree with her politics, but she is doing more for our country than most of us combined. I always thought that conservatives were more patriotic than the socialists? perhaps I was mistaken? perhaps we put petty politics ahead of the greater good of the country’s reputation?

    I wish her every success.
    :-)

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  48. burt (8,023 comments) says:

    Tautaioleue

    Helen Clark’s politics to one side, her success would boost New Zealand’s profile in the international community.

    America’s Cup justifications ….

    DPF

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…. Any chance of an analysis of NZ’s donations to the UN between the period 1999-2008 ? what they were each year during that period ?

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  49. Nukuleka (270 comments) says:

    Other folk obviously know a lot more than I do about Ms Clark and her current living arrangements- what are these references to ‘H2′ for heaven’s sake???? Can someone make the oblique a mite more opaque without being libellous?

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  50. Steve (North Shore) (4,522 comments) says:

    Yakety – yak, don’t come back

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  51. stigie (999 comments) says:

    “Other folk obviously know a lot more than I do about Ms Clark and her current living arrangements- what are these references to ‘H2″
    I simply could not answer that Nukuleka without being rude and then coping a ban !~

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  52. Komata (1,142 comments) says:

    nukuleka

    By way of an answer: a one-word summary: ‘Rainbow’.

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  53. Fentex (909 comments) says:

    Also few Secretary-Generals come up through the UN. Most are serving or just retired foreign ministers.

    But as not all are and it isn’t a requirement is entirely beside the point. Besides which, wouldn’t an ex Prime Minister trump an ex Foreign Minister?

    As to the regional rotation idea, well, when was the last Pacific nations Secretary General?

    The idea that crises in Eastern Europe would encourage a Secretary General from there seems around the wrong way to me – someone with a possible dog in a fight would be unappetising to opposing factions in the fight and one would think it easier for them to agree to a disinterested third party.

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  54. Harriet (4,614 comments) says:

    “……It takes a village to raise a child…….”

    Hiilary has only one village in mind – the one Hulun works at – the UN.

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  55. maxwell (49 comments) says:

    The UN is a corrupt, money guzzling talkfest, full of it’s own importance …

    If the shoe fits ….

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  56. dirty harry (444 comments) says:

    The foul beastly social engineer H Klarkula..a true political monster.

    How you sleep at night is beyond me.

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  57. big bruv (13,552 comments) says:

    The very idea of the corrupt former leader of the Labour party becoming SG makes me laugh. While the UN might be full of stinking liberals who love the failed concept of multiculturalism they have not yet managed to work out that they are being played for the bunch fools they are by the Islamic nations.

    Make no mistake, these stone age followers of Islam will never vote for her given well known private life. Those same stone age followers will keep playing the liberal fools whilst taking every hand out, and, back down to the Islamic lifestyle the UN so freely offers.

    I have never managed to work out how the left can swallow an Islamic lifestyle that encourages child rape, wife beating and child marriage yet also claim to be the champion of women’s rights.

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  58. Johnboy (15,564 comments) says:

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/531933/secretary-general

    Aunty will certainly be the ugliest Secretary-General the UN has ever had! :)

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  59. Johnboy (15,564 comments) says:

    Your not D4J in disguise are you dirty harry? :)

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  60. Johnboy (15,564 comments) says:

    It’s not a bad disguise. The H Karkula gave you away! :)

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  61. big bruv (13,552 comments) says:

    Johnboy

    The same thought crossed my mind.

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  62. Johnboy (15,564 comments) says:

    “The foul beastly……” clinched it bb! :)

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  63. Johnboy (15,564 comments) says:

    I’ve up ticked it though cause Dad cuts through the shit and sez it like it really is! :)

    Go Dad…… in all your re-incarnations! :)

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  64. spanish_tudor (56 comments) says:

    Anything that keeps that vile woman from meddling in NZ domestic politics for another 5-10 years is alright by me. Let her get her trotters and snout deeper into the useless UN’s trough.

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  65. Dead Earnest (141 comments) says:

    If it keeps that “corrosive, cancerous” “hater and wrecker” out of these Isles for a few more years I think I could live with it.

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  66. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    Not too many Helen Clark fans here then…

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  67. Johnboy (15,564 comments) says:

    One since you turned up milkey! :)

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  68. Johnboy (15,564 comments) says:

    I have trouble understanding your devotion milkey?

    She’s not even a Catholic! :)

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  69. dad4justice (7,968 comments) says:

    Klarkula, H2 and Peter, make my day and get the job.

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  70. Johnboy (15,564 comments) says:

    Do you think they feel like lucky punks Dad? :)

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  71. big bruv (13,552 comments) says:

    What are you going to do if she does get the job D4J?

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  72. RRM (9,639 comments) says:

    Klarkula, H2 and Peter, make my day and get the job.

    Do you reckon they’re a threesome, then, dad? ;-)

    I bet that warms the cockles of your heart?

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  73. Johnboy (15,564 comments) says:

    It would be the only cockle that Auntie’s warmed in forty years RRM! :)

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  74. Dead Earnest (141 comments) says:

    Clark would be he most divisve NZ politican in recent history. Masquerading as a Social Democrat she succesfully hid her hard left ideology as she incrementally took NZ in to hardened Anti-US, socially liberal, welfare dependent morass. Championing economic policies which squandered the supluses of the best economic conditions in a generation, she pillaged the fabric of the nation with her social engineering. Her greatest legacy to NZ was to permanantly weaken the Labour Party by jealously vetoing any one with leadership potential

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  75. Tauhei Notts (1,646 comments) says:

    Go to Auckland.
    Get a taxi to a dairy to buy an ice cream.
    Then get another taxi to a bottle store to buy a small bottle of whisky.
    Then get your own car and fill it up with petrol.
    After that drive to a food shop to buy a pie.
    After all that tell Wikipedia that New Zealand truly is part of western Europe.
    Yeah, right.

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