General Debate 25 June 2014

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Judith

No GD for 26th?

Such an important day in history to.
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June 26, 2014 10:22am
Ryan Sproull

Happy birthday, Judith?
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June 26, 2014 10:23am
Judith

@ Ryan Sproull (6,976 comments) says:
June 26th, 2014 at 10:23 am

Hell no, I wasn’t born – I have always existed ! 🙂

Nope, the 26th of June is very important, because going from the 25th to the 27th, would have really stuffed the world up years ago.

However, to disprove my point, I just looked up this date, and note that on this day in 1934 – Germany & Poland sign non-aggression treaty – now that was a waste of a day!!
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June 26, 2014 10:26am
stephieboy

Re U T’s Dancing Israelis 9/11 canard.

The five dancing Israelis reported by witness ” Maria” is covered below in some depth and detail The analysis shows conclusively that the actions of the alleged ‘dancing” israelis hardly demonstrate aforeknowledge that Truthers try to suggest.An important aspect of her account is that she in fact did not see the young men until after the actual impacts and there is no evidence they actually set up their cameras prior to the attacks. in anticipation

It is also claimed they were seen joking and laughing. But this appears just prior to the 9/11 attacks. Any how are we to judge about how people should or not react to any major event like this .?

One thing is for certain it is a lie that the same van was found with explosives at the New Jersey Turnpike. Easily dismissed as the link clearly shows, but demonstrates once again ,how Truthers rush to judgement, quote mine and cherry pick details. As was the case with Lee Hamilton and the 9/11 Commission.
Another detail in that respect ,four of the the Israelis arrested and detained later sued the Dept of Justice for their arrest and detention.Hardly the actions of a secret service agency who would be at pains to avoid any unwarranted publicity and attention . Not to speak of dancing and laughing in full view of the public. Pretty dumb conclusions to come to when you seriously come think about ti.

A note about Voltaire.net. that UT used for his prime source The French philosopher was a virulent anti semite who detested and loathed Jews , Voltaire net continues that” honored ” and notorious tradition with devoted glee.
UT, it seems, also.

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Dancing_Israelis

and the truckload of explosives myth,

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/A_truckload_of_explosives
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June 26, 2014 10:27am
UglyTruth

I haven’t found anything from the NY post about 70,000 applications, but the NY Post figures suggest they are expecting 15,000 claims from 9/11.

“As of Sept. 15, the VCF had awarded 78 claimants a total $13.7 million” -> 176,000 average claim

“$2.7 billion for economic compensation” -> 15,000 claims

http://nypost.com/2013/10/19/911-victim-fund-covers-cancer-for-first-time/
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June 26, 2014 10:27am
mikenmild

How do you think they felt 250 years ago, when the date jumped from Wednesday, 2 September 1752 to Thursday, 14 September 1752?
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June 26, 2014 10:28am
Judith

@ mikenmild (10,235 comments) says:
June 26th, 2014 at 10:28 am

If my birthday was on any of the days between those dates, I’d have been extremely annoyed at not getting to celebrate my birthday.

It must have been really weird though. Especially as in 1752 there were still many uneducated people who would not have understood the concepts involved in the changes between the two calendars.

I’ve always wondered, how was the agreement reached, and is there binding legislation – do we have to by law stick to the Gregorian calendar? Or do we just do it, because everyone else does? .
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June 26, 2014 10:31am
stephieboy

UglyTruth (3,730 comments) says:
June 26th, 2014 at 10:13 am

Why should we use your sources as authority when they are e.g happy to quote mine and distort what Commissioner Lee Hamilton actually said.? Larry Silverstein as well.?

Higher Cancers ? Source. New England Journal of Medicine,? WHO stats.?, Oncology and Nuclear Medicine Journals of repute that you can cite.??
Instead of Donald Fox , Jim Fetzer etc, etc .
Flash Burns of Filipe ? Actually evidence they were diagnosed an treated as such. ?And why was he the only out of the many Rodriguez rescued suffering thus.???
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June 26, 2014 10:41am
ciaron

Revelations that Iranian broadcaster Press TV is most likely fabricating multiple reports of alleged U.S. ‘drone strikes’ in Somalia will do little to bolster the channel’s already tattered reputation. And its actions could impede those trying to hold the U.S. to genuine account for its covert war on terror.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-woods/press-tv-iran_b_1130101.html

not that I put much stock in huffington post one either…
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June 26, 2014 10:50am
mikenmild

Judith
There was an Act of Parliament to introduce the new calendar. There is a myth that the change provoked rioting: “Give us back our eleven days!”
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June 26, 2014 11:09am
mikenmild

PS. The Calendar (New Style) Act 1750 is part of New Zealand law. So no to your Julian Calendar!
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June 26, 2014 11:17am
dirty harry

Nadine…where the fuck is ” Toeronga “…and where is ” Team-a-ru…its ” T-our-runga ” and ” Tim-aru ” stupid bint…stop trying to reinvent the wheel.
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June 26, 2014 12:04pm
ciaron

stop trying to reinvent the wheel.

Cultural awareness and re-education. Once we all fall into line on spelling and pronunciation, I fully expect it to undergo an extensive revision and update 🙂
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June 26, 2014 12:13pm
stephieboy

Whats happened to General Debate 26th June 2014.?
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June 26, 2014 2:20pm
mikenmild

Why does the Met Service website show flying pigs surrounding NZ?
http://www.metservice.com/national/home
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June 26, 2014 3:11pm
tom hunter

And last night the site froze for an hour or so. Hacking? There is this:

http://www.co-operativebank.co.nz/InternetBanking/nt/home.aspx

Never heard of them. A scam?
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June 26, 2014 3:20pm
mikenmild

Used to be the PSIS.
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June 26, 2014 3:26pm
Pete George

There seems to be some disagreement in the Labour caucus over the plan to use windfall timber from the West Coast.

National claim to have the support of the Maori Party and United Future (and also NZ First although Peters seemed to contest that).

David Cunliffe started a typical yeah/nah stance yesterday – Playing politics with West Coast windfall trees

It now looks like Damien O;Connor will try to get some amendments but will cross the floor to vote for it anyway:

RadioLIVE Newsroom ‏@LIVENewsDesk

Labour’s Damien O’Connor will cross Parliament’s floor and vote in favour of native logging, if his party decides to vote against it.

This has sort of been confirmed by Moana Mackey:

Christian Hermansen ‏@chermansen__

@tauhenare @clarecurranmp Majority just increased anyway, Damien O’Connor will cross the floor

@MoanaMackey

@chermansen__ @tauhenare @clarecurranmp only at third reading if govt votes down all his very sensible amendments

Labour have manouvered themselves into a stupid position on this, all over a small proportion of blown over trees.
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June 26, 2014 3:31pm
ciaron

Why does the Met Service website show flying pigs surrounding NZ?

’cause metservice couldn’t forecast a f**k in a brothel.

http://www.windguru.cz/int/index.php?sc=25747&sty=m_menu
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June 26, 2014 3:35pm
UglyTruth

In Chicago, police murder a man for refusing to go to hospital…

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/police-shoot-95-year-old-wwii-vet-death-refusing-go-hospital
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June 26, 2014 3:51pm
cha

Yowza, that was a biggie.

http://www.geonet.org.nz/quakes/region/newzealand/2014p476125
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June 26, 2014 4:00pm
stephieboy

UT, a cop has been charged with one count of reckless conduct.This was back in April.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/04/02/suburban-cop-charged-in-death-of-95-year-old-wwii-vet/

Your point.?
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June 26, 2014 4:02pm
UglyTruth

cha, there was a 7.2 near the Kermadec Islands a couple of days ago.
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June 26, 2014 4:09pm
stephieboy

U T,

HAARP. ?
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June 26, 2014 4:12pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Flying pigs…. its an ad campaign.
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June 26, 2014 4:26pm
Pete George

The defections grow – Two Labour MPs support Government’s West Coast timber legislation

Two Labour MPs will cross the floor to support the government’s legislation the enabling the harvesting of windblown timber on West Coast conservation land.

West Coast-Tasman MP Damien O’Connor, and Te Tai Tonga MP Rino Tirikatene, will support the bill, in their capacities as local MPs for the area.

The remaining Labour MPs will oppose the legislation, because it’s being rushed through parliament under urgency – with no public consultation.

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/news/1008613397-govt-accused-of-assault-on-conservation-land
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June 26, 2014 4:47pm
mikenmild

Why is it an urgent matter?
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June 26, 2014 4:49pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@milkenmild… the longer the logs lie on the forest floor, the more likely they will be attacked by pinhole borer… rendering the timber useless… I think the adult borer become active (start flying) in warmer weather …. i.e. soon (spring-summer).
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June 26, 2014 5:19pm

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