Grassroots democracy

June 4th, 2014 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

Was in Mount Maunganui last night for ’s selection of a candidate to replace Tony Ryall in the . Tony’s majority in 2011 was a staggering 17,760 votes.

There were 101 voting delegates there. Every single one of them selected by a grassroots branch. Not a single vote held by anyone from head office, let alone a van load of unionists who get bused in to vote. The 101 party members were almost all very long-standing party activists who have spent years or decades door knocking, putting up hoardings, raising funds etc. It’s a great system where they get to decide who will be their local candidate, and is one of the reasons why National has the largest party membership in New Zealand.

The selection was won by (whom I previously blogged on here). Congratulations to Todd who will be an excellent MP and representative for the Bay of Plenty.

Amusingly this means the next National caucus will have three Todds – McClay, Muller, and Barclay. I’m suggesting they be called Senior Todd, Intermediate Todd and Baby Todd :-)

Congrats also to , selected for yesterday also. Boundary changes have made that seat more interesting that in the past.

This concludes the selections for the seats National currently holds. Still Port Hills and a couple of others to go with the Labour held seats. Port Hills could also be interesting.

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19 Responses to “Grassroots democracy”

  1. Redbaiter (10,417 comments) says:

    Hope this Todd shows he’s less of a prog leftist than the other Todds.

    Considering he’s a Bolger man I’d be surprised if he can. Bolger was a compete and utter disaster for National and NZ.

    Do you know your party’s founding principles Mr. Muller?

    “To promote good citizenship and self-reliance; to combat communism and socialism; to maintain freedom of contract; to encourage private enterprise; to safeguard individual rights and the privilege of ownership; to oppose interference by the State in business, and State control of industry”.

    Be good if you could act on them.

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  2. Viking2 (11,674 comments) says:

    History is against that Reddy.

    socialist by nature.

    Certainly never participated in the wider community as a youngster but was wrapped up with the sky fairies.

    Mother will be pleased.

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  3. shoreboy57 (141 comments) says:

    “Still Port Hills and a couple of others to go with the Labour held seats. Port Hills could also be interesting”

    And East Coast Bays…….

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  4. Redbaiter (10,417 comments) says:

    Well Viking, Mr Farrar makes a good point about Mr Muller’s selection by grass roots methods. Let’s hope the locals are not wrong and that they know what they want and they know their man.

    It will take a good man to follow in Tony Ryall’s footsteps.

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  5. mikenmild (12,378 comments) says:

    What did you like most about Tony Ryall, Reddy? His successful management of our socialised health system?

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  6. Redbaiter (10,417 comments) says:

    Mr Ryall did the best he could in the hopelessly compromised National Party, really just the Labour Party in different suits. His heart was in the right place. Notable he is retiring when he still has many years as an effective politician left in him. I suspect deep down inside he could be as disgusted with National and JK’s leadership as I am.

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  7. mikenmild (12,378 comments) says:

    ‘did the best he could’??? That’s pretty weak, even for you.

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  8. Jack5 (5,278 comments) says:

    What about the lad National chose to step into Bill English’s shoes in true blue Southland?

    Did the farmers choose this kid? Were they brainwashed by National HQ’s party insiders, or have the Southlanders been through one frost too many?

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  9. Auberon (779 comments) says:

    They shall be known as the Todd Corporation.

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  10. mjw (401 comments) says:

    Looks like a good quality candidate. Of course, this worsens National’s problem of selecting men in safe seats. I think they are up to about 80% of new candidates in safe seats being men.

    So expect the National List to be absolutely stuffed full of women in winnable positions.

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  11. Redbaiter (10,417 comments) says:

    “Of course, this worsens National’s problem of selecting men in safe seats.”

    Divisive Marxist propaganda from the usual sources. Once we had a media unaffected by this BS.

    They were not “advocacy journalists” and they reported objectively and without accenting factors that only undermine and weaken our social cohesion.

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  12. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Mikenwimp: Am looking to find which branch of the leeching public service you are hiding in? You are known in some Naenae circles as a loser and a dreamer, so you must be a public servant. It is going to be interesting!

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  13. mjw (401 comments) says:

    Redbaiter – so are you saying social cohesion is best achieved by having men in charge?

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  14. Redbaiter (10,417 comments) says:

    Why bring sex into it? The guy was selected by his peers in the BOP.

    I’m saying its a shame that so much of our mainstream media have their minds infected with divisive Marxist rubbish which overrides their ability to report objectively on politics.

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  15. Neil (577 comments) says:

    Jack7 10.38 I’ve never seem so much rubbish in my life in your short missive. I was a voting delegate at the 137 delegate selection. No one from central office National contacted me. Todd clearly won, something that non-attendees still don’t seem to be able to grasp. All head office did was pre-select five candidates for selection. A bit like a police check in public life
    Barclay put in a phenomenal effort prior to selection-Clutha-Southland I think is the second biggest area for an electorate in the country after West Coast-Tasman.
    Your sarcastic comment about one frost too many reveals you live far from our fine province.

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  16. Jack5 (5,278 comments) says:

    Neil (12:30) – Southland is a fine place, and I thought it was the frosts that made the swedes tasty and the people feisty.

    Still, it has made some strange political choices. For example, the old hippy as Mayor of Invercargill.

    Why does National’s head office do pre-selection of the potential candidates? I thought the party list was where the Wellington insiders had their say.

    Is it time for Southlanders to kick a bit of Wellington head office arse?

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  17. mikenmild (12,378 comments) says:

    igm
    It’s a bit off topic, but I’m perfectly willing to answer any questions you may have. I’ll try to keep the answers simple for you.

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  18. kowtow (8,938 comments) says:

    neil ,serious question.

    How do “grass roots ‘ National feel about the parliamentary party attack on private property rights in respect of this tobacco plain packaging nonsense.

    Especially in light of the party’s principles so helpfully posted by Red.

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  19. Keeping Stock (9,380 comments) says:

    Congratulations to Todd Muller, and to Alfred Ngaro who will give Phil Twyford a really good scrap in a seat where National won the party vote in 2011.

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