Kapiti Island fees

June 13th, 2014 at 4:00 pm by David Farrar

The Dom Post reports:

Conservation Minister Nick Smith has confirmed the visitor fee and tourism structure is being reviewed in the wake of plummeting visitor numbers.

The review follows a sharp decline in visitor numbers since fees were increased in February last year from about $190 to $300 for a family of four.

Smith said the Conservation Department was reviewing fees, and ways of attracting more visitors, while protecting the pest-free nature reserve.

The fees were increased to help pay for improvements on the island, including upgrading the sewerage system and visitor kiosk, and providing flushing toilets.

But figures show only 283 people visited the island in January this year, compared with 1569 in January 2013.

They got greedy and hiked the fee too high, and the end result is fewer visitors and less income.

I’d love to go to Kapiti Island, as has not been there since I was a kid. But $95 is too high a cost.

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29 Responses to “Kapiti Island fees”

  1. burt (7,424 comments) says:

    It’s like hiking tax rates – doubling the percentage of tax people need to pay will not double government revenue. Don’t expect the socialist to understand this.

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  2. thor42 (971 comments) says:

    Those fees are *insane*.

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  3. burt (7,424 comments) says:

    As an aside, I’ve been to Kapiti several times over the years – ignoring for a moment the cost, it is well worth a visit. NZ bush and bird life is stunning when there are no possums or rats.

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  4. Redbaiter (10,398 comments) says:

    How much land has this damn communist Smith nationalised?

    He’s as bad as his predecessor, now hiding out in Afghanistan.

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  5. Dead Earnest (160 comments) says:

    See the market works!

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  6. davidp (3,585 comments) says:

    Laffer Curve? Confirmed!

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  7. Daniel (222 comments) says:

    So at $75/person (based on $300 for 4 people) at 283 visitors = $21225.00
    At $47.50/person (based on $190 for 4 people) at 1569 visitors = $74527.50

    So we can presume if they reduced the price by 36% (back down to the previous rate) they should be looking at more than a 3 fold increase in income.

    Maybe they should try that out with some taxes, see what kind of result we get.

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  8. Don the Kiwi (1,808 comments) says:

    Socialist greed.

    Killed the goose that laid the golden egg.

    Just like Tauranga City Council did back in the mid 2000’s

    May their ears turn into arseholes and shit all over their shoulders. :-)

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  9. Manolo (14,166 comments) says:

    Nick Smith, a Green fifth columnist, acting as a Labour Lite minister.
    Shame on the Nats for harbouring such a traitorous politician.

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  10. marcw (259 comments) says:

    This is an echo of the Zealandia experience. Fortunately, there seems to be some intelligent intervention earlier than that which was experienced in the WCC.

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  11. burt (7,424 comments) says:

    marcw

    Exactly, it is the same BS. A bunch of council lefties (who probably get free tours of such places because they are the special ones) treat these things like rates, just crank the price to raise the revenue. It seems they forgot that unlike rates people are not required to pay more just because some muppets want to spend more of other peoples money.

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  12. KapitiCoast (114 comments) says:

    Well I had to comment on this :)…be rude not to!

    I agree with Burt and have been over only a couple of times and to be honest the last time I went over It was my treat to visiting friends from the UK, after we were back home and had dinner and a few wines the wife of the couple googled prices on her iphone (they didn’t know they were going until we boarded the boat) and said it was a rip off, they enjoyed the visit but said it was double what they would pay!

    Take into consideration the NZ $ is very high against most currencies now, my mum and dad visited in early 2000 and the exchange rate was 3:1 (about 34-35pence to the $) and now it’s 52pence to the $. I’m unsure the %age of NZ’rs V’s overseas travellers visiting the Island, but I suspect that there is plenty other stuff that a Cpl or family of four (tourists) can do for less money that is just as enjoyable…why was there such a steep increase in price?…was it just DoC trying to milk more money or was the greedy Kapiti Council getting a cut?

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  13. KapitiCoast (114 comments) says:

    As a PS…..I also treated the husband of the couple to a glider flight over Kapiti, he was not exactly enthused about going up in a ‘paper dart’ as he called it, but when he returned to earth he said it was one of the most thrilling and exciting things he has ever done…money well spent on my part, keep it in mind if any of you have a hankering or a visiting rellie that you just don’t know what to give them for a pressie or just sheer entertainment, they will thank you i’m sure….like bungy jumping…only done once and enjoyment on their faces at surviving is worth any money :)

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  14. Steve (North Shore) (4,536 comments) says:

    Don @ 5.40.
    Good statement! :)

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  15. Colville (2,318 comments) says:

    the fee includes the boat trip?

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  16. burt (7,424 comments) says:

    Colville

    There are multiple operators. I suspect these guys recognise the connection between hiking their fares and lowering PAX.

    They don’t set the permit cost.

    http://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-recreation/places-to-visit/wellington-kapiti/kapiti/kapiti-island-nature-reserve/plan-and-prepare/guides-and-commercial-tourism-providers/

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  17. burt (7,424 comments) says:

    KapitiCoast

    You didn’t hold back giving those visitors Mr Toads wild ride – well done !

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  18. Colville (2,318 comments) says:

    yeah ok so $95 for a days wandering about on Kapiti including boat trip each way. Seems cheap to me.

    its about $150 per person for a dive trip out to Kapiti and you need min 8 on board to get a boat to go.

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  19. burt (7,424 comments) says:

    Colville

    Yes, but…

    ( from Daniel above )

    So at $75/person (based on $300 for 4 people) at 283 visitors = $21225.00
    At $47.50/person (based on $190 for 4 people) at 1569 visitors = $74527.50

    I’m just wondering if the Council worked out the fee hike was hurting them or if it took repeated prodding by the boat operators. I’m picking the latter.

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  20. burt (7,424 comments) says:

    The Green Party perspective might be;

    The tax hike has worked as desired, visitor numbers have vastly decreased, significantly reducing human impact on the fragile island ecosystems. Meanwhile leading edge eco technologies are being used in developments on the island to improve visitor experience. Further tax increases will be levied on visitors as these developments complete.

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  21. KapitiCoast (114 comments) says:

    Ahhh Burt if the greens get a say, and god forbid, get to dictate anything regarding NZ fauna/flora we will never ever get to experience it as it will all be shut off to humans and eventually…as the greens wish, we will be back to pre 1740 NZ fauna and flora…place will be empty of course apart from the Tanga Tewhenu who will be screaming blue murder as the grass skirts irritate and human flesh isn’t as nice as KFC!

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  22. burt (7,424 comments) says:

    KapitiCoast

    Nah, the sheep are here to stay, they taste so good !

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  23. WineOh (636 comments) says:

    I doubt that the minister was involved in something as paltry as setting fees for a particular reserve. And in any case, a year ago wasn’t he still in the “political wilderness” after being demoted for that ACC debacle? Who was the Minister for the Environment / DOC at the time?

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  24. Sam Buchanan (501 comments) says:

    National trying to squeeze as much revenue as possible out of our conservation estate and failing badly. Dunno what Burt thinks the council have to do with it.

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  25. Maggy Wassilieff (483 comments) says:

    In 2012 DOC set the landing permit & access fee to Kapiti Is at $25+GST/adult and $12.50 +GST/child. Presumably the rest of the cost is Ferry fee.

    Its similar to the Zealandia story….. public land with its upkeep supported by public money (taxes and rates) but essentially only accessible to the well-heeled.

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  26. gump (1,683 comments) says:

    Kapiti Island isn’t a business. There’s no particular reason why DoC should be concerned with maximising the visitor numbers or total revenue.

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  27. KapitiCoast (114 comments) says:

    Burt……If you live here, you love here tis why we both decided to buy a house, I will buy/pay for anything that, when my visitors from another country visit to show them where I live is GREAT and when they go back they will have nothing but great things to say as most have the hurdle of a 30+ hr flight to get to our little piece of heaven!

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  28. G152 (418 comments) says:

    Used to fly at Paraparaumu and took friends out and around the Island a few times.
    I wouldn’t pay such a high ‘entry fee’

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  29. UglyTruth (4,554 comments) says:

    I’d love to go to Kapiti Island, as has not been there since I was a kid. But $95 is too high a cost.

    So don’t use their kiosk or their toilets.

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